Greetings,

This is just a test message.

Jim

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こんばんは,

テストだけです。

ジム

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This time I'm seeing if I can turn off the HTML, etc.

ジム


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My wife and I are slowly getting our lives back together, which is really not so
bad despite the
accident.  Rolomail is almost back up, and I'll be back into development mode
soon and
processing new EDICT versions into Ice Mocha.

I did loose my laptop in the crash, and my iMac lost its CD/DVD drive.  I also
discovered that
the recently released Civilization IV requires a G5 minimum... and the iMac is
only a G4.  One
year old machines are apparently no good anymore.

I haven't been active on the bboards for some time, so I'm not aware of the
latest EDICT
news.  Been too busy registering my company here etc... Not sure if my project
to make kanji
movies from SODs can procede as the scripts for making the animations was on the
laptop...
can't recall if I ever got a modern version of GD running on the iMac or not. 
Don't even know
how many submissions are waiting for me to edit.

Otherwise, can't wait to get into discussions here...

Hope all is well out there... that's my long winded "hello".  Jim Rose

Discuss: Does
よし (int) (uk) OK!; all right! *
really have the kanji 良し ?

There is no indication of that in the 広辞苑 entry.
The 大辞林 entry
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/search.php?MT=%A4%E8%A4%B7&kind=jn&mode=0&base=1&row\
=8
does state
〔形容詞「よし」から〕
which you might presume is 良し, but it isn't actually stated.

-  Paul

P.S. At any rate I'll get to see if Japanese text is going
to make it through Yahoo intact.

* I've submitted an amend for the (int) and (uk).

I am not able to view archived messages (all 5 of them) within the
Yahoo Groups HP.

Jim, is there a setting you need to activate from within the
moderator's page to make this possible?

Or it could just be me (most likely).

I currently can only see Home and Post on the left hand side of the
page; normally there are all kinds of other options for things like
posting files, pictures, etc.

Cheers!
Todd

Welcome everyone to the EDICT/JMdict mailing list. I hope it turns
out to be useful and active.

I hope Yahoo Groups works out OK for the mailing list. It can be slow
at times, and I know the Honyaku people are looking for a new home
for that reason. Please note that Yahoo's WWW interface is pretty
hopeless for sending Japanese emails - they all come out in SGML
entity codes (〹, etc.) which don't work with non-browser email
readers. Please use regular email clients set to operate in ISO2022-JP.

A few bits of news:

As many will know, the EDICT and JMdict files (as well as the ENAMDICT
and KANJIDIC/KANJD212 ones) are in continous release mode. Any changes
(by me at present) go live overnight, with updated copies going on the
Monash ftp site and the WWWJDIC server. WWWJDIC also shows any new
entries which have been submitted by users.

I have begun rewriting the basic documentation of the EDICT and JMdict
version of the main dictionary. See:
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/edict_doc.html
I am treating it as the one dictionary (which is what it is) with
several different formats for distribution.

I have a few changes in mind which I'll discuss in later emails.

Cheers

Jim

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[Paul Blay ([edict-jmdict]
=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCTkkkNxsoQiAbJEIhWiRoJDchWxsoQiAobikgTw==?=
=?ISO-2022-JP?B?SyE7IGFsbCByaWdodCE=?=) writes:]
>> Discuss: Does
>> よし (int) (uk) OK!; all right! *
>> really have the kanji 良し ?

I think so.

>> There is no indication of that in the 広辞苑 entry.
>> The 大辞林 entry
>>
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/search.php?MT=%A4%E8%A4%B7&kind=jn&mode=0&base=1&row\
=8
>> does state
>> 〔形容詞「よし」から〕
>> which you might presume is 良し, but it isn't actually stated.

Well, 広辞苑 also has よ・し【良し・善し・好し】 and points at
よい.

That raises the question whether the 良し/よし and
善し/よし entries
are really the same thing.

>> P.S. At any rate I'll get to see if Japanese text is going
>> to make it through Yahoo intact.
>>
>> * I've submitted an amend for the (int) and (uk).

I've made those changes. Tks.

Jim

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[nurbs100 ([edict-jmdict] Archives) writes:]
>> I am not able to view archived messages (all 5 of them) within the
>> Yahoo Groups HP.
>>
>> Jim, is there a setting you need to activate from within the
>> moderator's page to make this possible?
>>
>> Or it could just be me (most likely).
>>
>> I currently can only see Home and Post on the left hand side of the
>> page; normally there are all kinds of other options for things like
>> posting files, pictures, etc.

I think you have to "sign in" to see the archives. This means
registering an ID and password with Yahoo. It's pretty painless.

Jim

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Alpha Ranger <nurbs1@...> wrote:

>
> While these are not the most sophisticated dictionaries out there, they are
> fairly useful to me (a beginning-intermediate student of Japanese).
>
> http://www.alc.co.jp/eng/kaiwa/hyogen/index.html

Even better is the main page, since it also gives you the translated
words in context: <http://www.alc.co.jp/>

________________________________________________________________________
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    If you want a reply by e-mail, don't write to my Yahoo address!

Hi

As the subject says, the daily updates seem to have stopped a few days
ago. JMdict.gz, edict.gz and edicthdr.txt on the Monash FTP all show
july 22 as the date stamp and none of my daily diff'ings of edict
against the previous day's version have shown any changes since then.

And since this is my first post to the list I'll just briefly
introduce myself (ok, the list is new, but I think I have posted a
total of two messages to SLJ the last few years, so I think an
introduction is appropriate). I'm Kim from Sweden. I study Japanese at
Stockholm Univ and open source project entrepreneurship at a
vocational school. My association with edict/jmdict is that I run
Jisho.org and am working on a Kanjidic2/JMdict search application for
Mac OS X which will most likely be open source.

Glad to be here
Kim

Hi Kim,

I've found myself maintaining the (modified) Tanaka Corpus
used by Edict.

> As the subject says, the daily updates seem to have stopped a
> few days ago. JMdict.gz, edict.gz and edicthdr.txt on the
> Monash FTP all show july 22 as the date stamp and none of my
> daily diff'ings of edict against the previous day's version
> have shown any changes since then.

Lacks of update to examples.gz you can blame on me.  The last
update I sent in was on the 21st (I'm partway through a bit
of a backlog at the moment).

> My association with edict/jmdict is that I run
> Jisho.org and am working on a Kanjidic2/JMdict search
> application for Mac OS X which will most likely be open
> source.

Oooh, I like the dictionary links from example sentence words.

I do have a couple of suggestions though.
1. Could you consider having a feedback form for example
sentences (sent/copied to me) as they need all the fixing
they can get.
2. I assume you are using some sort of auto-parsing to get the
word links from the examples.  May I suggest that you would be
better off using the keywords line?

For example you have
[一日]１[個]のリンゴを食べれば[医者]はいらない＋��
(three words linked)
With the keywords that would be

[一日]１[個][の][リンゴ][を][食べれば]\
[医者]はいらない。
(7 words and particles linked)

Obviously the indexing of records is not yet complete.
There remain over 38,000 records that have some text
not indexed that should be indexed (the above record
being one such).

Best Wishes,

Paul

[log@... (Re: [edict-jmdict] [OT] Possibly useful only references) writes:]
>> Alpha Ranger <nurbs1@...> wrote:
>> > While these are not the most sophisticated dictionaries out there, they are
>> > fairly useful to me (a beginning-intermediate student of Japanese).
>> >
>> > http://www.alc.co.jp/eng/kaiwa/hyogen/index.html
>>
>> Even better is the main page, since it also gives you the translated
>> words in context: <http://www.alc.co.jp/>

Does ALC's 表現 distionary use Eijirou or something else?

Maybe it's time to mention (again) my monster dictionary link collection at:

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/onlinejdic.html

Jim

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[=?UTF-8?Q?Kim_Ahlstr=C3=B6m?= ([edict-jmdict] EDICT and JMdict not updating
since july 22) writes:]
>> As the subject says, the daily updates seem to have stopped a few days
>> ago. JMdict.gz, edict.gz and edicthdr.txt on the Monash FTP all show
>> july 22 as the date stamp and none of my daily diff'ings of edict
>> against the previous day's version have shown any changes since then.

Very odd. I just logged in to the ftp server and ran the update scripts
"by hand", but I don't know why cron  didn't run them. I'll keep an eye
on it, and if they don't run tonight, I'll buzz the sysadmin.

>> And since this is my first post to the list I'll just briefly
>> introduce myself (ok, the list is new, but I think I have posted a
>> total of two messages to SLJ the last few years, so I think an
>> introduction is appropriate). I'm Kim from Sweden. I study Japanese at
>> Stockholm Univ and open source project entrepreneurship at a
>> vocational school. My association with edict/jmdict is that I run
>> Jisho.org and am working on a Kanjidic2/JMdict search application for
>> Mac OS X which will most likely be open source.

Welcome on board. (Kim and I hace corresponded in the past.)

Jim

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Thanks for the intro, Todd.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 03:07:26PM +0900, Alpha Ranger wrote:
>
> Finally, in order to keep Jim happy (other than giving him lots a Vegemite
> sandwiches)

Actually I prefer Vegemite on toast; usually at breakfast.

> [ed: thwack Todd over the head the next time he makes a
> wisecrack like that!] (Blame it on "Men at Work" for sticking that image in
> my brain!)[ed: I don't care what crazy 80s bands your stereotypes came
> from.  Knock it off!](er, well what about giving Jim a Foster's Lager or
> two?)[ed: Well, that might be acceptable if you give me one as well!], a few
> suggestions to the gmail users here that haven't done this already--

Fosters? No, of Australian beers I much prefer Coopers (or Cascade).
[http://www.coopers.com.au/] Mostly I am a wine drinker.

Jim

Dear Todd,

> * Verb parser
>
> I have never talked to Jim about this, but I would like to
> work on this just to do it.  And if I don't have any where
> to implement it, I will be glad to throw the logic/code out
> into the public domain.
>
> This is inspired my Jim's relatively simple, but immenently
> useful (!), "Translate Words" function in WWWJDIC.  Since he
> has already "guessed" that a verb exists, the next step is
> to analyze the following barrage of kana (and others) that
> following to provide the verb translated to include the
> verb ending(s).  So this mean that if there exist multiple
> modifiers, they will all be including inte final
> translation.

So what would you actually have for something like 書いてある
in
やさしい英語で書いてあるので、この本は初心者に適している。
?

> Initially this will entail analyzing what could follow the
> root and then creating a simplistic logic chart of things to
> follow. It will progressively become more detailed after that.

One question is how 'far out' you want to go.  For example
the [V] link in WWWJDIC
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1W%BD%F1%A4%AF_v5k
covers quite a few forms and combinations but certainly far
from all.

How are you going to deal with auxillary verbs, casual
contractions and inserted particles?

e.g. 開いておく (置く aux-v)
死んじゃ (contraction of 死んでは)
行ってはいない (inserted は)

An extension to the [V] link that allows people to paste in
a conjugated verb for analysis would be nice.

P.S. If Jim's reading this - you get rather screwy results if you do a
word search on 書く.

Best Wishes,

Paul

> * Verb parser
>
So what would you actually have for something like 書いてある
in
やさしい英語で書いてあるので、この本は初心者に適している。
?

> Initially this will entail analyzing what could follow the
> root and then creating a simplistic logic chart of things to
> follow. It will progressively become more detailed after that.

One question is how 'far out' you want to go.  For example
the [V] link in WWWJDIC
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1W%BD%F1%A4%AF_v5k
covers quite a few forms and combinations but certainly far
from all.

How are you going to deal with auxillary verbs, casual
contractions and inserted particles?

e.g. 開いておく (置く aux-v)
死んじゃ (contraction of 死んでは)
行ってはいない (inserted は)

An extension to the [V] link that allows people to paste in
a conjugated verb for analysis would be nice.

P.S. If Jim's reading this - you get rather screwy results if you do a
word search on 書く.

--Todd

Hi Todd,

> IOW, 信じゃ can only be interpreted as 死んでは once the root
> has been determined, right?  And this can then be generalized
> for most (all?) V-で+は contractions, right?

I suspect you're going to come across various "interesting"
complications along the way but I'd be interested in how things
go.

-  Paul

Jim Breen <Jim.Breen@...> wrote:

> [log@...(Re:[edict-jmdict] [OT] Possibly useful only references) writes:]
> >> Alpha Ranger <nurbs1@...> wrote:
> >> > While these are not the most sophisticated dictionaries out there,
> >> > they are fairly useful to me (a beginning-intermediate student of
> >> > Japanese).
> >> >
> >> > http://www.alc.co.jp/eng/kaiwa/hyogen/index.html
> >>
> >> Even better is the main page, since it also gives you the translated
> >> words in context: <http://www.alc.co.jp/>
>
> Does ALC's ?? distionary use Eijirou or something else?

No idea--sorry
>
> Maybe it's time to mention (again) my monster dictionary link collection at:
>
> http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/onlinejdic.html

There are just so many links there, it's difficult to sort through them
all, I'm afraid.

________________________________________________________________________
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    If you want a reply by e-mail, don't write to my Yahoo address!

On 7/26/06, Paul Blay <blay.paul@...> wrote:

Hi Paul

>  Lacks of update to examples.gz you can blame on me. The last
>  update I sent in was on the 21st (I'm partway through a bit
>  of a backlog at the moment).

I have to confess that I haven't updated the examples database used on
jisho.org since april. But the format is fast enough to do a daily
import of, so I'll add that in the next update. I'll also add you to
the credits on the about-page.

>  I do have a couple of suggestions though.
>  1. Could you consider having a feedback form for example
>  sentences (sent/copied to me) as they need all the fixing
>  they can get.

Sure. How would you prefer to have that implemented? A link to the
suggestion form in WWWJDIC (i presume that the ID numbers each
sentence has are the sequence they appear in the file) or something
custom? Come to think of it I should probably link to the word
correction page in WWWJDIC as well.

>  2. I assume you are using some sort of auto-parsing to get the
>  word links from the examples. May I suggest that you would be
>  better off using the keywords line?

I wrote the importer script over a year ago so I had to go back and
check, and I actually use the keywords line. But I'm not taking the {}
field into account ... but that was a quick fix. So the next time I
update the server (about once a month) it should link everything.
Thanks for the heads-up!

All the best
Kim

Hi Kim,

> I have to confess that I haven't updated the examples database
> used on jisho.org since april. But the format is fast enough
> to do a daily import of, so I'll add that in the next update.

Well a daily import is probably a bit optimistic but a weekly
one would be sensible.  Do you do a check of the date stamp
to see if it's changed or not before downloading?

> I'll also add you to the credits on the about-page.

I wouldn't bother, although I'm not going to stop you.

> Sure. How would you prefer to have that implemented? A link
> to the suggestion form in WWWJDIC (i presume that the ID
> numbers each sentence has are the sequence they appear in the
> file) or something custom?

There's nothing special about the WWWJDIC form - and I don't
know how Jim handles ID's (whether they are preserved or not).
As long as it has a) The sentence(s) to be commented on and
b) Space to type corrections / comments then it's fine.

> Come to think of it I should probably link to the word
> correction page in WWWJDIC as well.
>
> >  2. I assume you are using some sort of auto-parsing to get
> >  the word links from the examples. May I suggest that you
> >  would be better off using the keywords line?
>
> I wrote the importer script over a year ago so I had to go
> back and check, and I actually use the keywords line. But I'm
> not taking the {} field into account ... but that was a quick
> fix. So the next time I update the server (about once a month)
> it should link everything.

Incidentally the keywords in the B line are in the order they
actually appear in the example.  Somebody really enthusiastic
could use that to prevent the wrong characters being
highlighted when there are ambiguous matches.

For example in the following the は is after さん so it
shouldn't get mixed up with the first half of はい.

「はい、ありません」とジョーダンさんは答えた。
"No, I don't," said Mr Jordan.
はい 有る{ありません} と[2] さん は
答える{答えた}

Best,

Paul

2006/7/26, Alpha Ranger <nurbs1@...>:

Greetings

> I think Kim's project is great BTW; and I am looking forward to seeing it
> grow and mature in the future.  My being 1/8 Swedish has nothing to do with
> that either.

Thank you. I'm looking forward to that too. I have a long list of
things to add, but currently it's fighting for my attention with
studying, making money and outdoor activities. But I try to update the
server software about once a month.

> And please don't hold it against Kim if he is a Mac guy.  Ha!  Hey, what
> ever tool it takes to get the job done!

A Mac is the finest tool there is to get the job done! In fact I'll be
attending Apple's World Wide Developers Conference in San Francisco in
two weeks as a student developer.

> Kim, what are you language are you coding in primarily at the moment?

Jisho.org is a 100% Perl backend using a nice web framework called
Catalyst <http://www.catalystframework.org/> with MySQL as the
database. The Mac app is being built with C/Objective-C.

I have fiddled with other languages as well. Java and Python when I
did a year of computational linguistics at Uppsala Univ, and some
poking around with PHP and Ruby - though not to the degree of editing
books on them.

> suggestions to the gmail users here that haven't done this already--

Oh differing encodings how I love thee. But I followed your
instructions so I hope Japanese will pass through here unharmed.

All the best
Kim

[Paul Blay (Re: [edict-jmdict] Project Proposals) writes:]
>>
>> P.S. If Jim's reading this - you get rather screwy results if you do a
>> word search on 書く.

Hmmm. Yes, screwy.  ....... OK, got it. I made a mod a week ago
to pull the (P) entries to the front in a kana-only lookup, but
accidently screwed up the supression of those "xref" entries
for non-kana lookups. Fixed now (I hope.)

Jim

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[log@... (Re: [edict-jmdict] [OT] Possibly useful only references) writes:]
>> Jim Breen <Jim.Breen@...> wrote:
>>
>> > Maybe it's time to mention (again) my monster dictionary link collection
at:
>> >
>> > http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/onlinejdic.html
>>
>> There are just so many links there, it's difficult to sort through them
>> all, I'm afraid.

You mean all my careful categorization and short pithy descriptions
were a total flop?   8-<}

Jim

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[Paul Blay (Re: Re: [edict-jmdict] EDICT and JMdict not updating since july 22)
writes:]
Kim>> > Sure. How would you prefer to have that implemented? A link
Kim>> > to the suggestion form in WWWJDIC (i presume that the ID
Kim>> > numbers each sentence has are the sequence they appear in the
Kim>> > file) or something custom?
>>
>> There's nothing special about the WWWJDIC form - and I don't
>> know how Jim handles ID's (whether they are preserved or not).
>> As long as it has a) The sentence(s) to be commented on and
>> b) Space to type corrections / comments then it's fine.

Don't use IDs. WWWJDIC runs off the raw text file, plus an index
containing byte offsets to the start of each sentence. The server
opens the big file in memory-mapped mode and seeks to the required
sentence. Thus the [Ex] links in the WWWJDIC pages point to the
starting byte of the sentence.

The feedback form relies on quoting the sentence. Possibly best to
replicate that. Currently teh feedback is emailed to Paul and me.

HTH

Jim

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ジム・ブリーン@モナシュ大学

[Alpha Ranger ([edict-jmdict] Project Proposals) writes:]
>> * Verb parser
>>
>> I have never talked to Jim about this, but I would like to work on this just
>> to do it.  And if I don't have any where to implement it, I will be glad to
>> throw the logic/code out into the public domain.
>>
>> This is inspired my Jim's relatively simple, but immenently useful (!),
>> "Translate Words" function in WWWJDIC.  Since he has already "guessed" that
>> a verb exists, the next step is to analyze the following barrage of kana
>> (and others) that following to provide the verb translated to include the
>> verb ending(s).  So this mean that if there exist multiple modifiers, they
>> will all be including inte final translation.  I am sure linguists can work
>> this better, but the point is pretty straight forward I think.
>>
>> Initially this will entail analyzing what could follow the root and then
>> creating a simplistic logic chart of things to follow. It will progressively
>> become more detailed after that.
>>
>> I sure this work exists already in a scholarly context, but it will either
>> need to be re-interpreted or re-thought from the ground up.

The bare bones of the verb de-inflector in WWWJDIC are in the GPLed
xjdic code. It's pretty simplistic, and driven by a simple list of
inflections and root forms, e.g.

...
れる    れる    24
れます  れる    1
れました        れる    11
れませんでし    れる    13
れません        れる    12
れましょう      れる    18
れない  れる    0
れず    れる    27
れなけ  れる    29
....

The trailing number flags the label of the inflection.

>> * 当用漢字・常用漢字の歴史
>>
>> Again, I have NOT mentioned this to Jim.
>>
>> The current contents of the 常用漢字 related entries in jmdic could be
expanded
>> to include the dates when items were added and the information from the
>> 当用漢字.  For most people, this information would not be very useful. 
But it
>> might be extremely useful a few researchers (people that like that kind of
>> thing).

"jmdic". Or do you mean kanjidic?  The data on the extra kanji when the
当用漢字 became the 常用漢字 is all in Ken Lunde's book.

>> * Photo database
>>
>> I debated whether to mention this one or not, but I figure it is better to
>> have someone to spur me along.
>>
>> Essentially this would be a database of pictures which would be linked to
>> the WWWJDIC servers (initially).  Jim has given a green light on this one.

Yes, as I said to Todd, I could link to such a set of images if there were
a TOC I could extract. The way I link to jeKai entries is an example.

>> * Radical database
>>
>> This is a small project.  Basically it would be a relatively small database
>> of radical related information.  I have the framework written down.
>>
>> This would be nice for electronic dictionary creators to link to if it does
>> not exist already.

There is the file used by JDIC, xjdic, WWWJDIC, etc. See:
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwraddisp.cgi
That file is in the xjdic tarball.

Then there is the kradfile/radkfile data.

Ganbatte

Jim

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