Is it possible to create a file with a number of pairs for automating a S&R?

For example, the code has text such as the following:

Vasari (v[:a]-s[:a]'r[=e]).
Velasquez (v[=a]-l[:a]s'k[=a]th).
Venetian (v[.=e]-n[=e]'sh[.a]n).
Venice (v[)e]n'[)i]s).
V[=e]'n[)u]s.
Veronese (v[=a]-r[=o]-n[=a]'z[.=a]).
V[)e]s[=a]'l[)i][)u]s.
Vi[)e]n'n[.a].
Vinci, Leonardo da (l[=a]-[=o]-n[:a]r'd[=o] da v[)i]n'ch[=e]).
Voragine, Jacopo de (y[:a]'k[=o]-p[=o] d[.a] v[=o]-r[:a]-j[=e]'n[.=a]).
V[)u]l'g[=a]te.

I want to replace the [=a]; [.a]; etc. with HTML encoded characters so the S&R
input file would look like this:

[=a], ā
[)a], ă
[`a], à
['a], á
[:a], ä
[.a], ȧ
[~a], ã
[=.a], ā̇
...

Thanks.
Tom C.

Hi!

I'm just curious why does editplus.exe open an UDP port while editing html
files.
It opens a (seems like random) UDP port when an html page has an <input
type="file"...> AND previewing it in the Browser (Ctrl+B), AND clicking on
"Browse..." button AND closing the Browser view.

You can check this with Sysinternals "TCPView" tool.

This happens with 3.20 and 3.30 too... (what I have checked)

Thanks in advance,
  Mike


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello, Tom!

	 There is no way to do this automatically in EditPlus, if by that you mean to
replace all patterns at once.  You'll have to search and replace each one
individually.  The upshot is that, once you do it, the search and replace
patterns will be available for re-use in the drop-down lists.  It's not much,
but it works.

	 For automatic replacement, you'll have to resort to either an external user
tool, or some sort of script.  I usually prefer the latter, but others in this
list have devised user tools that may help.

	 dZ.


On Aug 10, 2011, at 19:22, t_cosmas wrote:

> Is it possible to create a file with a number of pairs for automating a S&R?
>
> For example, the code has text such as the following:
>
> Vasari (v[:a]-s[:a]'r[=e]).
> Velasquez (v[=a]-l[:a]s'k[=a]th).
> Venetian (v[.=e]-n[=e]'sh[.a]n).
> Venice (v[)e]n'[)i]s).
> V[=e]'n[)u]s.
> Veronese (v[=a]-r[=o]-n[=a]'z[.=a]).
> V[)e]s[=a]'l[)i][)u]s.
> Vi[)e]n'n[.a].
> Vinci, Leonardo da (l[=a]-[=o]-n[:a]r'd[=o] da v[)i]n'ch[=e]).
> Voragine, Jacopo de (y[:a]'k[=o]-p[=o] d[.a] v[=o]-r[:a]-j[=e]'n[.=a]).
> V[)u]l'g[=a]te.
>
> I want to replace the [=a]; [.a]; etc. with HTML encoded characters so the S&R
input file would look like this:
>
> [=a], ā
> [)a], ă
> [`a], à
> ['a], á
> [:a], ä
> [.a], ȧ
> [~a], ã
> [=.a], ā̇
> ...
>
> Thanks.
> Tom C.
>

Hello, Mike!
	 If this occurs while in the browser preview window, it may be a function of IE.
EditPlus leverages the operating systems browser capabilities for this view. 
Does it happen with the "native" browser, or is it with a custom configuration?

	 dZ.

On Aug 11, 2011, at 03:26, Szurap Miklós wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I'm just curious why does editplus.exe open an UDP port while editing html
> files.
> It opens a (seems like random) UDP port when an html page has an <input
> type="file"...> AND previewing it in the Browser (Ctrl+B), AND clicking on
> "Browse..." button AND closing the Browser view.
>
> You can check this with Sysinternals "TCPView" tool.
>
> This happens with 3.20 and 3.30 too... (what I have checked)
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Download at http://www.editplus.com/download.html

What's new:

Version 3.31 (2011-08-08)

<features>

* Supports syntax highlighting for Python and Ruby on Rails by default.
* Improved syntax highlighting speed on long lines.
* 'Disable Save button with unmodified documents' option
('Preferences'->'File').
* Displaying tabs and spaces in separate commands.
* Find in Files allows multiple folder names separated by ';'.
* Increases max number of tool groups to 20.
* Allows string values in #PREFIX and #SUFFIX statement.
* 'Set Marker Dup Lines' command ('Edit'->'Others').
* 'Log File Watch' command ('Document').
* -pi command line option to specify different project configuration file.
* Supports Perl syntax highlighting for string interpolations.
* Word highlighting now supports selection of multiple words.
* 'Reset Default' button on the Fonts dialog box.
* Displays color code on the Color Picker.
* 'Use STAT instead of LIST' ftp option added.
* 'Run as Text Filter (Replace Fixed Cursor)' user tool action added.
* 'Include user account name' backup option added.
* 'Try keyboard-interactive authentication' sftp option.
* New 256x256 size application icon.

<bug fixes>

* Long lines could cause program crash.
* File open error in Hex Viewer could cause program crash.
* Fixes possible freeze with Explorer right mouse button.
* php syntax highlighting could break inside block comment.
* Save As dialog box could return incorrect file extension with long file names.
* Backup file extension option didn't work with remote files.
* 'Monitor Clipboard' could paste same text multiple times.
* 'Import'/'Export' button on the 'Set Directories' dialog box didn't work.
* Templates didn't work if the default encoding option is set to Unicode.
* Function List wouldn't be updated when switching documents.
* Could not run php.exe if it was added to PATH manually.
* Fixes cursor location bug when editing syntax files.
* Menu bitmap for user tools could not display customized icons.
* 'Hide Line Numbers' option on the Print page didn't work correctly.
* 'View in Browser' on the Directory Window could incorrectly run the 'Edit
Source' command.
* Highlight Word option could cause program freeze.
* 'Directory'->'Refresh' was missing from the custom shortcut key list.
* Fixes menu bitmap on Windows Classic theme.
* 'Tools' dialog box could display wrong browser name list.
* 'Continue to next file' option didn't work with Find Previous.
* Could not set indent value of 1 for custom file types.
* Find in Files keystroke recording could be incorrect.
* Fixes wrong Output Window location in full screen mode.
* 'Use EditPlus in Internet Explorer' option didn't work on Windows XP.
* Prevents wrong 'file modified' warning messages.

I updated to the new version today. It will no longer download files that have
spaces in the name. One space gives two errors. It seems to be thinking it is
trying to find to files.
Example:  "/this file.html"
error will say it can't find "/this" and the next will say it can't find
"/file.html".
Any setting I can change?

On 2011-08-11 23:14, efliers wrote:
> I updated to the new version today. It will no longer download files
> that have spaces in the name. One space gives two errors. It seems
> to be thinking it is trying to find to files.
> Example: "/this file.html"
> error will say it can't find "/this" and the next will say it can't
> find "/file.html".
> Any setting I can change?

What do you mean by "download files"? If you're referring to being
unable to access files with spaces in their names via the integrated FTP
functionality, then you should be reminded that it's not considered a
safe practice to use spaces in file names and directories hosted on the
Internet (precisely because it can cause problems like this one).
--
_______________________________________________________________
Tom Ditmars    zarggg [at] zarggg [dot] net   KeyID: 0x2E22D768
---------------------------------------------------------------

Oh my. Your so smart. Duh. I need the fix, not a lesson on html.

And yes, I was speaking of good old FTP. I can open an item with spaces locally,
but not through FTP. Is there a fix or setting that I can change to make a
program I have been using for almost 10 years work the way it used to?

--- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, Tom Ditmars <thomas.ditmars@...> wrote:
>
> On 2011-08-11 23:14, efliers wrote:
> > I updated to the new version today. It will no longer download files
> > that have spaces in the name. One space gives two errors. It seems
> > to be thinking it is trying to find to files.
> > Example: "/this file.html"
> > error will say it can't find "/this" and the next will say it can't
> > find "/file.html".
> > Any setting I can change?
>
> What do you mean by "download files"? If you're referring to being
> unable to access files with spaces in their names via the integrated FTP
> functionality, then you should be reminded that it's not considered a
> safe practice to use spaces in file names and directories hosted on the
> Internet (precisely because it can cause problems like this one).
> --
> _______________________________________________________________
> Tom Ditmars    zarggg [at] zarggg [dot] net   KeyID: 0x2E22D768
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>

Hi!

I'm just curious why does editplus.exe open an UDP port while editing html
files.
It opens a (seems like random) UDP port when an html page has an <input
type="file"...> AND previewing it in the Browser (Ctrl+B), AND clicking on
"Browse..." button AND closing the Browser view.

You can check this with Sysinternals "TCPView" tool.

This happens with 3.20 and 3.30 too... (what I have checked)

Thanks in advance,
  Mike

Efliers,

This forum works on a user helps user principle, people go out of their way
to reply to forum members who have problems. Bad mouthing those who are
trying to help you is a very quick way to ensure that you are not given any
help in the future.

Personally, I saw nothing wrong with the reply you were given to your
original inquiry; it was short and to the point. "Thank you" is always a
better response than "Your so smart..."; even if you feel the reply was no
helpful. At least Tom took the time to reply to you.

Regards,
Peter

On 14 August 2011 09:22, efliers <efliers@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Oh my. Your so smart. Duh. I need the fix, not a lesson on html.
>
> And yes, I was speaking of good old FTP. I can open an item with spaces
> locally, but not through FTP. Is there a fix or setting that I can change to
> make a program I have been using for almost 10 years work the way it used
> to?
>
> --- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, Tom Ditmars <thomas.ditmars@...> wrote:
> >
> > On 2011-08-11 23:14, efliers wrote:
> > > I updated to the new version today. It will no longer download files
> > > that have spaces in the name. One space gives two errors. It seems
> > > to be thinking it is trying to find to files.
> > > Example: "/this file.html"
> > > error will say it can't find "/this" and the next will say it can't
> > > find "/file.html".
> > > Any setting I can change?
> >
> > What do you mean by "download files"? If you're referring to being
> > unable to access files with spaces in their names via the integrated FTP
> > functionality, then you should be reminded that it's not considered a
> > safe practice to use spaces in file names and directories hosted on the
> > Internet (precisely because it can cause problems like this one).
> > --
> > __________________________________________________________
> > Tom Ditmars zarggg [at] zarggg [dot] net KeyID: 0x2E22D768
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
>
>
>



--
There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct,
or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction
of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, *The Prince*, ch. 6


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello all,
	 I'm DZ, one of the list moderators.  I know we're all volunteers and that it
sometimes feels like a thankless job to post in this and any list, but I hope we
can all still contribute in a friendly and civil manner.

	 Mr. Ditmars response was indeed short and to the point, and also correct. 
However, I did think it was a bit brusque, especially considering that the
feature Efliers was having trouble with apparently was working prior to the
latest EditPlus update.

	 I would consider that a bug.  If instead it represents a change in behaviour,
then a little help on how to work around it would be nice for Efliers and for
others who may encounter the same problem.  I can't test this right now since I
haven't updated yet, but I plan to do so on Monday.  I'll let you guys know if I
find something.

	 In the meantime, Peter, Tom, and Efliers, your help and participation on this
list is always appreciated, as is everyone else's.  Let's not forget why we're
here:  to help each other learn to use and work with our favorite text editor.

	 Cheers!
	 dZ.

On Aug 14, 2011, at 02:04, Peter Anderson wrote:

> Efliers,
>
> This forum works on a user helps user principle, people go out of their way
> to reply to forum members who have problems. Bad mouthing those who are
> trying to help you is a very quick way to ensure that you are not given any
> help in the future.
>
> Personally, I saw nothing wrong with the reply you were given to your
> original inquiry; it was short and to the point. "Thank you" is always a
> better response than "Your so smart..."; even if you feel the reply was no
> helpful. At least Tom took the time to reply to you.
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
> On 14 August 2011 09:22, efliers <efliers@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Oh my. Your so smart. Duh. I need the fix, not a lesson on html.
>>
>> And yes, I was speaking of good old FTP. I can open an item with spaces
>> locally, but not through FTP. Is there a fix or setting that I can change to
>> make a program I have been using for almost 10 years work the way it used
>> to?
>>
>> --- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, Tom Ditmars <thomas.ditmars@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2011-08-11 23:14, efliers wrote:
>>>> I updated to the new version today. It will no longer download files
>>>> that have spaces in the name. One space gives two errors. It seems
>>>> to be thinking it is trying to find to files.
>>>> Example: "/this file.html"
>>>> error will say it can't find "/this" and the next will say it can't
>>>> find "/file.html".
>>>> Any setting I can change?
>>>
>>> What do you mean by "download files"? If you're referring to being
>>> unable to access files with spaces in their names via the integrated FTP
>>> functionality, then you should be reminded that it's not considered a
>>> safe practice to use spaces in file names and directories hosted on the
>>> Internet (precisely because it can cause problems like this one).
>>> --
>>> __________________________________________________________
>>> Tom Ditmars zarggg [at] zarggg [dot] net KeyID: 0x2E22D768
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct,
> or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction
> of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, *The Prince*, ch. 6
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hello,
How do I (or can I) modify my php.stx file to show unmatched <div> and </div>
tags.  Like it does with {  }   where it will highlight it if there is a
matching opening or closing tag.

Hello Art,

I may be wrong; but I think EP only highlights the following 'brace' pairs: []
{} ()

You can find the 'matching' or opening/closing <div> or </div> by clicking into
the <div> or </div> and pressing Ctrl-[.

Thanks.
Tom C.

--- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, "itsoktopickyournose" <art@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> How do I (or can I) modify my php.stx file to show unmatched <div> and </div>
tags.  Like it does with {  }   where it will highlight it if there is a
matching opening or closing tag.
>

Hi, was wondering if it is possible to edit an existing keystroke recording. I
can find the exported keystroke file, but no luck if I modify it via Editplus.
I'm using recorded keystrokes to clean up log files, and from time to time I
need to expand on for example bot names to be discarded in the log entries.

[[ Hi, was wondering if it is possible to edit an existing keystroke recording.
I can find the exported keystroke file, but no luck if I modify it via Editplus.
]]

I've found that it is possible to do this, but you have to use devious means
because Editplus always saves its resident macro files upon exit, which will
overwrite any version of that file that you edited and saved to its usual
location during the session. The trick is to save your edited macro file
(default0_mac for the Alt-1 macro, etc.) to another location, then close
EditPlus, then copy the edited file from wherever you saved it to the usual
macro file location. Next time you run EditPlus it will use your edited file
(assuming you didn't mess it up in the editing process, which is very easy to
do).

Gary F.

Has anyone installed and used EditPlus on XP/x64?  Are there some special issues
because of the 64 bit OS?

I use it on Win 7 64-bit with no issues.


On Sep 3, 2011, at 5:05 PM, "Dan_Gregoria" <dan_gregoria@...> wrote:

> Has anyone installed and used EditPlus on XP/x64? Are there some special
issues because of the 64 bit OS?
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On 2011-09-03 17:05, Dan_Gregoria wrote:
> Has anyone installed and used EditPlus on XP/x64? Are there some
> special issues because of the 64 bit OS?

I can't speak to Windows XP 64-bit, but I do use it on Windows 7 with a
64-bit processor and it works just fine.
--
_______________________________________________________________
Tom Ditmars    zarggg [at] zarggg [dot] net   KeyID: 0x34427574
---------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks for you quick response --
What version of EditPlus were you using?
Thanks again,
-- dan

--- On Sat, 9/3/11, Peter Jarosak <pjarosak@...> wrote:

From: Peter Jarosak <pjarosak@...>
Subject: Re: [edit+] EditPlus with x64
To: "editplus@yahoogroups.com" <editplus@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, September 3, 2011, 8:47 PM
















 









       I use it on Win 7 64-bit with no issues.



On Sep 3, 2011, at 5:05 PM, "Dan_Gregoria" <dan_gregoria@...> wrote:



> Has anyone installed and used EditPlus on XP/x64? Are there some special
issues because of the 64 bit OS?

>

>



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On 2011-09-06 19:24, Dan Gregoria wrote:
> Thanks Tom for your quick response about my question on EditPlus on
> x64 platforms (XP x64 in my case).
>
> What version of EditPlus were you using that worked on x64 Windows
> 7.

I always use the latest version.

(CC to email list to keep the thread coherent.)
--
_______________________________________________________________
Tom Ditmars    zarggg [at] zarggg [dot] net   KeyID: 0x34427574
---------------------------------------------------------------

I'm trying to modify a large amount of source code files and change database
table names from lowercase to initial uppercase. I really thought I was able to
do this before with EditPlus but I cannot find how I did it. Any ideas how to
convert something like "Table_name" to "Table_Name"?

Searching the web, it should be \U\1\E but that just adds the \U and \E to the
results.

Mind you, it's not always "_name" so just searching for "_n" and forcing "_N" is
not an option. However this does point to the option I'm trying to avoid of
doing 26 versions of the search/replace with each letter of the alphabet.

Thanks

Scott,
	 As far as I know, there is no built-in way to do this in EditPlus.  I believe
someone wrote a user-tool to do something like that, perhaps you can find it in
the wiki?

	 http://editplus.info/wiki/User_Tools

	 dZ.

On Sep 12, 2011, at 13:48, Scott wrote:

> I'm trying to modify a large amount of source code files and change database
table names from lowercase to initial uppercase. I really thought I was able to
do this before with EditPlus but I cannot find how I did it. Any ideas how to
convert something like "Table_name" to "Table_Name"?
>
> Searching the web, it should be \U\1\E but that just adds the \U and \E to the
results.
>
> Mind you, it's not always "_name" so just searching for "_n" and forcing "_N"
is not an option. However this does point to the option I'm trying to avoid of
doing 26 versions of the search/replace with each letter of the alphabet.
>
> Thanks
>

Hi!

I have been reading much about Windows 8 and in particular WinRT. This has
led me to contemplate how this might effect the few software titles that I
absolutely rely upon.

Given that EditPlus is very high on this short list it seems that a WinRT
compliant EditPlus would be really neat.

Just the musings of a long-time and loyal user [?]

Regards,
Peter
--
There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct,
or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction
of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, *The Prince*, ch. 6


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Please: None of this is directed at you personally, Peter.

My development activities have tapered off significantly over the last few
years, so I had never heard of WinRT. I took the time to research it, and as I
understand it, it is an object-oriented replacement for Win32 for Windows 8.
However, the key, at least according to the items that I read, is that
applications written to Win32 will continue to work. Some new features will not
be available, which might or might not be useful to the application or its
users.

I have two observations. One is just a rant: When I was more active in
development, I was SO tired of Microsoft changing the "state of the art"
technology, particularly for the UI. I know that WinRT will have some benefits,
particularly for "sandboxing" applications, but how much can they expect from
developers of existing software?

Which leads to my second observation: It seems to me that Sangil Kim would have
to do a major re-write of Edit Plus to use WinRT, which would require major
debugging, which would impact him and all of his users. I paid him $30 years ago
and have benefited from his efforts to improve Edit Plus ever since. He'd have
to be crazy not to require a separate license for a WinRT version, and I'd have
to be crazy to give up a stable Win32 version.

--- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, Peter Anderson <peterjohnanderson@...> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I have been reading much about Windows 8 and in particular WinRT. This has
> led me to contemplate how this might effect the few software titles that I
> absolutely rely upon.
>
> Given that EditPlus is very high on this short list it seems that a WinRT
> compliant EditPlus would be really neat.
>
> Just the musings of a long-time and loyal user [?]
>
> Regards,
> Peter
> --
> There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct,
> or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction
> of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, *The Prince*, ch. 6
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Or of course, he could rewrite for OSX.
Which i and i know a lot of others have moved over too.
And of course which i would willingly pay another 30$ for.


>
>
> Please: None of this is directed at you personally, Peter.
>
> My development activities have tapered off significantly over the last
> few years, so I had never heard of WinRT. I took the time to research
> it, and as I understand it, it is an object-oriented replacement for
> Win32 for Windows 8. However, the key, at least according to the items
> that I read, is that applications written to Win32 will continue to
> work. Some new features will not be available, which might or might
> not be useful to the application or its users.
>
> I have two observations. One is just a rant: When I was more active in
> development, I was SO tired of Microsoft changing the "state of the
> art" technology, particularly for the UI. I know that WinRT will have
> some benefits, particularly for "sandboxing" applications, but how
> much can they expect from developers of existing software?
>
> Which leads to my second observation: It seems to me that Sangil Kim
> would have to do a major re-write of Edit Plus to use WinRT, which
> would require major debugging, which would impact him and all of his
> users. I paid him $30 years ago and have benefited from his efforts to
> improve Edit Plus ever since. He'd have to be crazy not to require a
> separate license for a WinRT version, and I'd have to be crazy to give
> up a stable Win32 version.
>
> --- In editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Peter Anderson <peterjohnanderson@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have been reading much about Windows 8 and in particular WinRT.
> This has
> > led me to contemplate how this might effect the few software titles
> that I
> > absolutely rely upon.
> >
> > Given that EditPlus is very high on this short list it seems that a
> WinRT
> > compliant EditPlus would be really neat.
> >
> > Just the musings of a long-time and loyal user [?]
> >
> > Regards,
> > Peter
> > --
> > There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to
> conduct,
> > or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the
> introduction
> > of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, *The Prince*, ch. 6
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>

mljones,

No offense taken, I understand your views. I too have despaired at
Microsoft's efforts over the years, I even tried Linux for a while. However,
with Windows 7 and now with Windows 8 they really are getting their act
together.

One of the things that WinRT is supposed to do is bring single folder
installs for applications - I take that to mean that the use of the Registry
and the AppData folders for application configuration is dead (or at least
on the way out). I have played with PC-BSD and it operates like this - its a
real god-sent feature.

On Windows 8; the use of HTML5 and JavaScript for the main UI is another
very good step forward.

My original post was more of a muse over what might happen. If Sangil wanted
to charge for a WinRT version of EditPlus, I would gladly pay.

Regards,
Peter

On 19 September 2011 23:53, mljones1947 <mljones1947@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Please: None of this is directed at you personally, Peter.
>
> My development activities have tapered off significantly over the last few
> years, so I had never heard of WinRT. I took the time to research it, and as
> I understand it, it is an object-oriented replacement for Win32 for Windows
> 8. However, the key, at least according to the items that I read, is that
> applications written to Win32 will continue to work. Some new features will
> not be available, which might or might not be useful to the application or
> its users.
>
> I have two observations. One is just a rant: When I was more active in
> development, I was SO tired of Microsoft changing the "state of the art"
> technology, particularly for the UI. I know that WinRT will have some
> benefits, particularly for "sandboxing" applications, but how much can they
> expect from developers of existing software?
>
> Which leads to my second observation: It seems to me that Sangil Kim would
> have to do a major re-write of Edit Plus to use WinRT, which would require
> major debugging, which would impact him and all of his users. I paid him $30
> years ago and have benefited from his efforts to improve Edit Plus ever
> since. He'd have to be crazy not to require a separate license for a WinRT
> version, and I'd have to be crazy to give up a stable Win32 version.
>
>
> --- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, Peter Anderson <peterjohnanderson@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have been reading much about Windows 8 and in particular WinRT. This
> has
> > led me to contemplate how this might effect the few software titles that
> I
> > absolutely rely upon.
> >
> > Given that EditPlus is very high on this short list it seems that a WinRT
> > compliant EditPlus would be really neat.
> >
> > Just the musings of a long-time and loyal user [?]
> >
> > Regards,
> > Peter
> > --
> > There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to
> conduct,
> > or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the
> introduction
> > of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, *The Prince*, ch. 6
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>



--
There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct,
or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction
of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, *The Prince*, ch. 6


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Again, nothing personal. Just my "pathologically logical" mind at work.

Yes, I'd pay for a separate license for OSX if I used OSX, but let's face it:
The market for Windows tools still dwarfs the market for OSX tools. You
obviously know what editors are available for OSX, while I don't, but I have to
wonder: Aren't there any OSX editors as good as Edit Plus available? If there
aren't, why not? Market size? If there are, why haven't Edit Plus users made the
switch?

--- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, John Smith <john@...> wrote:
>
> Or of course, he could rewrite for OSX.
> Which i and i know a lot of others have moved over too.
> And of course which i would willingly pay another 30$ for.
>
>
> >
> >
> > Please: None of this is directed at you personally, Peter.
> >
> > My development activities have tapered off significantly over the last
> > few years, so I had never heard of WinRT. I took the time to research
> > it, and as I understand it, it is an object-oriented replacement for
> > Win32 for Windows 8. However, the key, at least according to the items
> > that I read, is that applications written to Win32 will continue to
> > work. Some new features will not be available, which might or might
> > not be useful to the application or its users.
> >
> > I have two observations. One is just a rant: When I was more active in
> > development, I was SO tired of Microsoft changing the "state of the
> > art" technology, particularly for the UI. I know that WinRT will have
> > some benefits, particularly for "sandboxing" applications, but how
> > much can they expect from developers of existing software?
> >
> > Which leads to my second observation: It seems to me that Sangil Kim
> > would have to do a major re-write of Edit Plus to use WinRT, which
> > would require major debugging, which would impact him and all of his
> > users. I paid him $30 years ago and have benefited from his efforts to
> > improve Edit Plus ever since. He'd have to be crazy not to require a
> > separate license for a WinRT version, and I'd have to be crazy to give
> > up a stable Win32 version.
> >
> > --- In editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Peter Anderson <peterjohnanderson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I have been reading much about Windows 8 and in particular WinRT.
> > This has
> > > led me to contemplate how this might effect the few software titles
> > that I
> > > absolutely rely upon.
> > >
> > > Given that EditPlus is very high on this short list it seems that a
> > WinRT
> > > compliant EditPlus would be really neat.
> > >
> > > Just the musings of a long-time and loyal user [?]
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Peter
> > > --
> > > There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to
> > conduct,
> > > or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the
> > introduction
> > > of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, *The Prince*, ch. 6
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
>

I missed the no registry, single folder configuration feature of WinRT when I
scanned for information about it. I agree that would be wonderful.

The "1947" in my user ID is the year I was born. (You do the math.) I was around
for the conversion from DOS to Windows and the birth of HTML and JavaScript. I
used to think that you could never use HTML and JavaScript to make as rich a UI
as other technologies, but I'm amazed at the functionality of Web applications
today. And I certainly understand the portability advantage. So, I was wrong.

I sure hope that better development and debugging tools are available for the
current versions of HTML and JavaScript than when I was slogging through them.
By the way, as much as I love Edit Plus, I don't think that it would be what I
would expect for really heavy UI development.

--- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, Peter Anderson <peterjohnanderson@...> wrote:
>
> mljones,
>
> No offense taken, I understand your views. I too have despaired at
> Microsoft's efforts over the years, I even tried Linux for a while. However,
> with Windows 7 and now with Windows 8 they really are getting their act
> together.
>
> One of the things that WinRT is supposed to do is bring single folder
> installs for applications - I take that to mean that the use of the Registry
> and the AppData folders for application configuration is dead (or at least
> on the way out). I have played with PC-BSD and it operates like this - its a
> real god-sent feature.
>
> On Windows 8; the use of HTML5 and JavaScript for the main UI is another
> very good step forward.
>
> My original post was more of a muse over what might happen. If Sangil wanted
> to charge for a WinRT version of EditPlus, I would gladly pay.
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
> On 19 September 2011 23:53, mljones1947 <mljones1947@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Please: None of this is directed at you personally, Peter.
> >
> > My development activities have tapered off significantly over the last few
> > years, so I had never heard of WinRT. I took the time to research it, and as
> > I understand it, it is an object-oriented replacement for Win32 for Windows
> > 8. However, the key, at least according to the items that I read, is that
> > applications written to Win32 will continue to work. Some new features will
> > not be available, which might or might not be useful to the application or
> > its users.
> >
> > I have two observations. One is just a rant: When I was more active in
> > development, I was SO tired of Microsoft changing the "state of the art"
> > technology, particularly for the UI. I know that WinRT will have some
> > benefits, particularly for "sandboxing" applications, but how much can they
> > expect from developers of existing software?
> >
> > Which leads to my second observation: It seems to me that Sangil Kim would
> > have to do a major re-write of Edit Plus to use WinRT, which would require
> > major debugging, which would impact him and all of his users. I paid him $30
> > years ago and have benefited from his efforts to improve Edit Plus ever
> > since. He'd have to be crazy not to require a separate license for a WinRT
> > version, and I'd have to be crazy to give up a stable Win32 version.
> >
> >
> > --- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, Peter Anderson <peterjohnanderson@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I have been reading much about Windows 8 and in particular WinRT. This
> > has
> > > led me to contemplate how this might effect the few software titles that
> > I
> > > absolutely rely upon.
> > >
> > > Given that EditPlus is very high on this short list it seems that a WinRT
> > > compliant EditPlus would be really neat.
> > >
> > > Just the musings of a long-time and loyal user [?]
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Peter
> > > --
> > > There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to
> > conduct,
> > > or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the
> > introduction
> > > of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, *The Prince*, ch. 6
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct,
> or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction
> of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, *The Prince*, ch. 6
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

If EditPlus were re-written to be HTML 5 and JavaScript, it would become OS
independent as long as those standards are supported.

There was a recent article that I can't seem to find right now that allowed
networking from a client side web app and there's been successful ports of Linux
into JavaScript. Combining the two technologies together, there doesn't seem to
be any limits of what could be done.

Peter


On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:50 AM, "mljones1947" <mljones1947@...> wrote:

>
>
> I missed the no registry, single folder configuration feature of WinRT when I
scanned for information about it. I agree that would be wonderful.
>
> The "1947" in my user ID is the year I was born. (You do the math.) I was
around for the conversion from DOS to Windows and the birth of HTML and
JavaScript. I used to think that you could never use HTML and JavaScript to make
as rich a UI as other technologies, but I'm amazed at the functionality of Web
applications today. And I certainly understand the portability advantage. So, I
was wrong.
>
> I sure hope that better development and debugging tools are available for the
current versions of HTML and JavaScript than when I was slogging through them.
By the way, as much as I love Edit Plus, I don't think that it would be what I
would expect for really heavy UI development.
>
> --- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, Peter Anderson <peterjohnanderson@...> wrote:
> >
> > mljones,
> >
> > No offense taken, I understand your views. I too have despaired at
> > Microsoft's efforts over the years, I even tried Linux for a while. However,
> > with Windows 7 and now with Windows 8 they really are getting their act
> > together.
> >
> > One of the things that WinRT is supposed to do is bring single folder
> > installs for applications - I take that to mean that the use of the Registry
> > and the AppData folders for application configuration is dead (or at least
> > on the way out). I have played with PC-BSD and it operates like this - its a
> > real god-sent feature.
> >
> > On Windows 8; the use of HTML5 and JavaScript for the main UI is another
> > very good step forward.
> >
> > My original post was more of a muse over what might happen. If Sangil wanted
> > to charge for a WinRT version of EditPlus, I would gladly pay.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Peter
> >
> > On 19 September 2011 23:53, mljones1947 <mljones1947@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Please: None of this is directed at you personally, Peter.
> > >
> > > My development activities have tapered off significantly over the last few
> > > years, so I had never heard of WinRT. I took the time to research it, and
as
> > > I understand it, it is an object-oriented replacement for Win32 for
Windows
> > > 8. However, the key, at least according to the items that I read, is that
> > > applications written to Win32 will continue to work. Some new features
will
> > > not be available, which might or might not be useful to the application or
> > > its users.
> > >
> > > I have two observations. One is just a rant: When I was more active in
> > > development, I was SO tired of Microsoft changing the "state of the art"
> > > technology, particularly for the UI. I know that WinRT will have some
> > > benefits, particularly for "sandboxing" applications, but how much can
they
> > > expect from developers of existing software?
> > >
> > > Which leads to my second observation: It seems to me that Sangil Kim would
> > > have to do a major re-write of Edit Plus to use WinRT, which would require
> > > major debugging, which would impact him and all of his users. I paid him
$30
> > > years ago and have benefited from his efforts to improve Edit Plus ever
> > > since. He'd have to be crazy not to require a separate license for a WinRT
> > > version, and I'd have to be crazy to give up a stable Win32 version.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, Peter Anderson <peterjohnanderson@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > I have been reading much about Windows 8 and in particular WinRT. This
> > > has
> > > > led me to contemplate how this might effect the few software titles that
> > > I
> > > > absolutely rely upon.
> > > >
> > > > Given that EditPlus is very high on this short list it seems that a
WinRT
> > > > compliant EditPlus would be really neat.
> > > >
> > > > Just the musings of a long-time and loyal user [?]
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Peter
> > > > --
> > > > There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to
> > > conduct,
> > > > or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the
> > > introduction
> > > > of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, *The Prince*, ch. 6
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct,
> > or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction
> > of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, *The Prince*, ch. 6
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I seriously hope that doesn't happen.

--
Sent remotely from my iPod; so igmore teh typpos, and don't hold your breath for
a response.


On Sep 20, 2011, at 13:40, Peter Jarosak <pjarosak@...> wrote:

> If EditPlus were re-written to be HTML 5 and JavaScript, it would become OS
independent as long as those standards are supported.
>
> There was a recent article that I can't seem to find right now that allowed
networking from a client side web app and there's been successful ports of Linux
into JavaScript. Combining the two technologies together, there doesn't seem to
be any limits of what could be done.
>
> Peter
>
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:50 AM, "mljones1947" <mljones1947@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I missed the no registry, single folder configuration feature of WinRT when
I scanned for information about it. I agree that would be wonderful.
> >
> > The "1947" in my user ID is the year I was born. (You do the math.) I was
around for the conversion from DOS to Windows and the birth of HTML and
JavaScript. I used to think that you could never use HTML and JavaScript to make
as rich a UI as other technologies, but I'm amazed at the functionality of Web
applications today. And I certainly understand the portability advantage. So, I
was wrong.
> >
> > I sure hope that better development and debugging tools are available for
the current versions of HTML and JavaScript than when I was slogging through
them. By the way, as much as I love Edit Plus, I don't think that it would be
what I would expect for really heavy UI development.
> >
> > --- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, Peter Anderson <peterjohnanderson@...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > mljones,
> > >
> > > No offense taken, I understand your views. I too have despaired at
> > > Microsoft's efforts over the years, I even tried Linux for a while.
However,
> > > with Windows 7 and now with Windows 8 they really are getting their act
> > > together.
> > >
> > > One of the things that WinRT is supposed to do is bring single folder
> > > installs for applications - I take that to mean that the use of the
Registry
> > > and the AppData folders for application configuration is dead (or at least
> > > on the way out). I have played with PC-BSD and it operates like this - its
a
> > > real god-sent feature.
> > >
> > > On Windows 8; the use of HTML5 and JavaScript for the main UI is another
> > > very good step forward.
> > >
> > > My original post was more of a muse over what might happen. If Sangil
wanted
> > > to charge for a WinRT version of EditPlus, I would gladly pay.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > On 19 September 2011 23:53, mljones1947 <mljones1947@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please: None of this is directed at you personally, Peter.
> > > >
> > > > My development activities have tapered off significantly over the last
few
> > > > years, so I had never heard of WinRT. I took the time to research it,
and as
> > > > I understand it, it is an object-oriented replacement for Win32 for
Windows
> > > > 8. However, the key, at least according to the items that I read, is
that
> > > > applications written to Win32 will continue to work. Some new features
will
> > > > not be available, which might or might not be useful to the application
or
> > > > its users.
> > > >
> > > > I have two observations. One is just a rant: When I was more active in
> > > > development, I was SO tired of Microsoft changing the "state of the art"
> > > > technology, particularly for the UI. I know that WinRT will have some
> > > > benefits, particularly for "sandboxing" applications, but how much can
they
> > > > expect from developers of existing software?
> > > >
> > > > Which leads to my second observation: It seems to me that Sangil Kim
would
> > > > have to do a major re-write of Edit Plus to use WinRT, which would
require
> > > > major debugging, which would impact him and all of his users. I paid him
$30
> > > > years ago and have benefited from his efforts to improve Edit Plus ever
> > > > since. He'd have to be crazy not to require a separate license for a
WinRT
> > > > version, and I'd have to be crazy to give up a stable Win32 version.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, Peter Anderson <peterjohnanderson@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been reading much about Windows 8 and in particular WinRT. This
> > > > has
> > > > > led me to contemplate how this might effect the few software titles
that
> > > > I
> > > > > absolutely rely upon.
> > > > >
> > > > > Given that EditPlus is very high on this short list it seems that a
WinRT
> > > > > compliant EditPlus would be really neat.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just the musings of a long-time and loyal user [?]
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Peter
> > > > > --
> > > > > There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to
> > > > conduct,
> > > > > or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the
> > > > introduction
> > > > > of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, *The Prince*, ch. 6
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct,
> > > or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the
introduction
> > > of a new order of things -- Niccolo Machiavelli, *The Prince*, ch. 6
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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