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Volume #10 Issue #2

February 2003

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C O N T E N T S

++ Editor's Notes

++ The Global Dreaming News
Events - Updates - Reviews - More
From Peggy Coats - www.DreamTree.com


++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis

++ Article: Recording Your Dreams
By Linda Lane Magall?n

++ Article: A View from the Bridge
Report on the World Dreams Peace Bridge
By Jean Campbell

++ Article: Dreams of Expectant Mothers and Fathers
Alan Siegel, Ph.D.

++ Dream: A Cosmic Novice
By Stan Kulikowski II


D R E A M S S E C T I O N : Volume #600 - #615
With Elizabeth Westlake and Harry Bosma

D E A D L I N E :
February 19th deadline for March 2003 submissions


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Send Dreaming News and Calendar Events to:
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Editor's Notes

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Welcome to the February 2003 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to dreams and
dreaming online.

If you are new to dreams and dreaming, please join us on
dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the resources you need.
To join send an e to
dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com


If you have news items about dreams and dreaming for our news director, Peggy
Coats, send them to her at web@...


Lucy Gillis offers a selection from the Lucid Dream Exchange this month on
people's various flying dreams. Three dreamers give three vary different
experiences of flying in lucid dreams.

Linda Magall?n continues her excerpts from "How to Fly." Last month she looked
deeply into the first part of capturing a dream, the first moments of recall.
This month, the in-depth investigation is extended to the dreamer's most
important tool, a dream journal. Linda gives a wide variety of suggestions on
how to use the journal for recall and compares various journal methods and
techniques in "Recording Your Dreams."


Jean Campbell continues to be a key player in 21st Century dream activism and
this month has an update from the most active online project, the World Dreams
Peace Bridge. In "A View from the Bridge" Jean describes current projects and
how you can participate. There is also information about the website
worlddreamspeacebridge.org

We are very fortunate to have with us this month Alan Siegel, Ph.D. Alan has a
new book out, _Dream Wisdom: Uncovering Life's Answers in Your Dreams_.
Published in January 2003 by Ten Speed/Celestial Arts Press, Berkeley, CA.,
Dream Wisdom offers a developmental framework for understanding dreams through
the life cycle by focusing on dreams during life's important turning points and
crises. In the article below you will get a peek into one of these areas where
Alan discusses expectant parent's dreams. From emotional sonograms to rehearsal
preparations, Alan's original research provides the oneiric tools for expectant
parents and dreamworkers counseling them.
I also want to call attention to Alan's new website, as he offers a wide variety
of article on dreams, nightmares, dream journaling and more.
www.dreamwisdom.info


Readers liked having a single dream brought out of the Dream Section and
presented in the articles area, so I think we will continue that throughout
2003. Various dreamers may be featured, but for now, Stan Kulikowski's dream
recordings stand out and I would like to feature them. You can find previous
dreams of his in past issues under his name in the Dream Section. Be sure to
read his 1-25 dream: "A Cosmic Novice"

Related to the dream cards, we are still trying a Cover Comments project. We
didn't get responses on this last month, so I'm going to re-think how we can do
this. Basically, it is a chance for you, the dreaming readers, to use the
covers from Electric Dreams as Dream Cards. We can do this several ways. Send me
your ideas.
The first cover offered is last month's:
http://dreamgate.hypermart.net/ed-covers/ed10-1cov.jpg
Cover artist: Lisa Rasmussen, Title: "Moon Dance"

Take a look at the cover and interpret it as if it were your dream. Send those
comments to me at rcwilk@...

The Dream Section, beautifully edited by Elizabeth Westlake [with the help of
Harry Bosma's editor program], is full of dreams sent in to us over the last
month. Ex-boyfriends, psychiatrists, cats, unicorns, running in other
dimensions? be sure to read the dream section!


If you have dreams you want published, don't send them to Elizabeth directly,
but rather enter them in the form at
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple
Or you can put them in the dream flow directly by subscribing to:
dream-flow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

We don't send the cover with the e-zine, but you can view, download and print up
a copy anytime at:
http://dreamgate.hypermart.net/ed-covers/ed10-2cov.jpg

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For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to stop by one of
the many resources:
http://www.dreamtree.com
http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library

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Planning to join the 2003 ASD International Dream Conference in Berkeley? Be
sure to register early! http://www.asdreams.org/2003


-Richard Wilkerson

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G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S

February 2003

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If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats, web@....
Visit Global Dreaming News online at http://www.dreamtree.com/


This Month's Features:

NEWS
- Online Dream Course by Gayle Delaney
- New Dream Book by William Domhoff
- ?Dream Wisdom? by Alan Siegel
- Get ready for 2003 Conference on Dreams!
- Dreams on Spanish speaking TV
- Dreams Exhibition - Lila Koufopoulou
- Womens' Weekend Dream Retreat - Bay Area

WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES
- The Dreaming Eye
- Book O?Dreams
- Ancient Dream Book Exhibit Online
- Dream Wisdom site offers articles

DREAM CALENDAR for February 2003



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N E W S

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>>>>> All About Dreams - Online Dream course from Gayle Delaney, Ph.D.

http://educate.barnesandnobleuniversity.com/educate/bn/home/catalog/overview.jsp\
?productId=8559&userid=2TBNDAQVX2&nhid=bn


This thought-provoking course will help you learn to be a Dream Interviewer --
someone who knows how to ask the right questions rather than relying on the
standard "one-size-fits-all" dream dictionary. You will liberate yourself from
psychological dogmas, and learn to look before you leap to an interpretation.
When you know how to look and listen carefully, your dreams will become clear
statements of your deepest insights. Course Price: $19.95

Prerequisites
A wild curiosity about dreams
A sense of humor about the difficulties of being human
The desire to tap the Sherlock Holmes within

Description
Every night you have several dreams; unlocking their secrets can help you to
better understand your motivations, your potential, and the obstacles you place
in your own way. Understanding your dreams can also help you make better
decisions, form better relationships, and deal with childhood, sexual, career,
and self-esteem issues.

All About Dreams will help you learn to be a Dream Interviewer?someone who knows
how to ask the right questions rather than relying on the standard
"one-size-fits-all" dream dictionary. You will liberate yourself from
psychological dogmas, and learn to look before you leap to an interpretation.
When you know how to look and listen carefully, your dreams will become clear
statements of your deepest insights. You will see how Dream Incubation can help
you target and solve particular problems in your life. By using the steps and
questions provided in the textbook and the course exercises, you will learn to
take advantage of the highly personal meanings of common dream images as well as
those of recurring dreams and nightmares. You can practice Dream Interviewing
and Dream Incubation by yourself or you can form "dream partnerships" with other
classmates. What a great opportunity to meet others who are just as fascinated
by dreaming as you are!

Audience: This course is for anyone who is curious about dreams. The lessons and
exercises are appropriate for both novice dream interpreters and those with more
experience.

This course is great for artists, writers, lawyers, and scientists who would
like to tap into their dream-generated inspiration to problem solve more
efficiently. Therapists and dream group leaders and members who want to hone
their interpretive skills are also welcome.

Objectives
Use dreams to make more informed decisions that affect your daily life
Recall your dreams more vividly and more often
Recall a dream that deals with an issue of concern to you
Interview yourself about your dream
Interview other dreamers and help them to understand their dreams
Understand at least some of your recurring dreams
Celebrate your liberation from hopelessly general dream interpretations
Find the specific meanings of a good number of your dream images

Course Materials
All About Dreams
In Your Dreams: Falling, Flying, and Other Dream Themes

Course Creator(s)
Gayle Delaney
Gayle Delaney, Ph.D., is a pioneer in modern dream work. She is the best-known
author in the field of dream interpretation and incubation. Founding president
of the Association for the Study of Dreams, and co-director (with Loma K.
Flowers, M.D.) of the Delaney & Flowers Dream Center in San Francisco, she is
the author of many books and is a popular guest on such shows as Oprah, NBC
Nightly News, Today Show, and Good Morning America.



>>>>> New Dream Book by William Domhoff

G. William Domhoffs new book, entitled The Scientific Study of Dreams: Neural
Networks, Cognitive Development and Dream Content, has just been published by
the American Psychological Association. It presents a new neurocognitive theory
of dreaming by building on recent work in neuropsychology and neuroimaging, and
then adding the laboratory work on the gradual development of dreaming in
children and the results of dozens of content analysis studies of the dreams of
adults, including adult dream journals. Information on the book and a sample
chapter can be found on the American Psychological Association web site at:
http://www.apa.org/books/431688A.html

>>>>>Dream Wisdom ? New Book by Alan Siegel, Ph.D.

Dreams are a resource the mind offers every night. This book demonstrates how to
use dreams and nightmares as a source of insight and practical healing during
life's turning points and crises beginning in childhood and throughout the
normal passages of the lifecycle and the unexpected crises and traumatic events.

Our dreams and even our worst nightmares can offer a source of guidance and
inner wisdom at critical times in our lives, such as after an accident, illness,
loss of a family member, or a traumatic event like the attack on the World Trade
Center and during normal life transitions such as forming or ending a
relationship, making career changes, during pregnancy, and mid-life crises.

Alan Siegel?s ?Dream Wisdom? explains how dreams can be a source of special
insight and healing during life's transitions. Using more that 140 actual
"turning point" dreams as examples, Siegel helps the reader to use dreams as a
window into hidden needs, unconscious feelings and unexplored wisdom, which can
enhance the ability to understand and resolve life's major challenges.

?Dream Wisdom? teaches how to develop a sense of confidence and expertise in
working with your own dreams. The notion that dream work requires an expert
analyst is often an unnecessary barrier. Siegel teaches you to work with dreams
using your own intuition and self-knowledge. Through examples, suggestions, and
exercises, the reader learns how to search for emotional links between turning
points she is experiencing and the people, places, activities and feeling in her
dreams. This practical and highly entertaining book offers a deep source of
guidance for anyone hoping to better deal with times of personal crisis or
critical change.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Alan Siegel, Ph.D. is an adult and child psychologist who
practices psychotherapy and assessment and is Assistant Clinical Professor, at
the University of California, Berkeley. A pioneer in dream work with 30 years of
teaching and publishing on dream-related topics, he is a past president of the
Association for the Study of Dreams and Editor-Emeritus of their magazine, Dream
Time. He was the Creative Consultant for the award-winning HBO video, Goodnight
Moon and Other Sleepy Time Tales and his commentaries on post-9-11 nightmares,
children's dreams, and dreams interpretation have been featured on NBC's Today
Show as well as CNN News, PBS, NPR, the Associated Press, and the Discovery
Channel's The Power of Dreams series. He lives with wife and two daughters in
the Bay Area.

Published by Ten Speed/Celestial Arts: ISBN 1-58761-158-9
www.dreamwisdom.info


>>>>> 20th Annual International Conference of the Association for the Study of
Dreams
June 27 - July 1, 2003
Berkeley, California


Dreaming by the Bay ? Over 100 events over five days, including workshops,
papers, panels, symposia, art, and multimedia shows!

DREAM FILM FESTIVAL: At this year's conference, ASD will offer an expanded dream
film festival ( we supply the popcorn!) with nearly continuous showings of
feature and documentary films. With the help of dream film gurus, Drs. Bernard
Welt, Deirdre Barrett, Jim Pagel, and Kelly Bulkeley, ASD will offer
commentaries, symposia, and even repeat showings of popular dream-oriented
films ranging from Le Guin's, The Lathe of Heaven, to Bunuel, Hitchcock, Sayles,
Dr. Suess, the Rugrats, Star Trek episodes and much more. Highly requested
documentaries such as the Wise Old Dog, The Power of Dreams, and Goodnight Moon
will also be included.

SUNSET DREAM CRUISE ON THE BAY: As a special treat at this year's conference,
ASD will offer a cruise on the San Francisco Bay. From a dock, right at the
hotel, you will set sail into the sunset to savor the spectacular views, and the
sights and sounds of the bay. This is a rare opportunity to share an evening
with friends and colleagues from the conference.

CE PROGRAM: ASD will be offering 30 Continuing Education (CE) Credits from the
ASD Dream Studies Continuing Education Program which will include in-depth
clinical and interpretive workshops with Deirdre Barrett, Ph.D.; Kelly Bulkeley,
Ph.D.; Ernest Hartmann, M.D. Alan Siegel, Ph.D.; Roger Knudson, Ph.D., Paul
Lippman, Ph.D. ; Rev. Jeremy Taylor, D. Min.

BOOK SALES AND AUTHOR SIGNINGS: Browse through dream-related books and
obtained personalized signed copies from world-famous authors.

JURIED ART EXHIBIT: The deadline for submitting work to the 2003 Dream Art Show
is March 1, 2003. Artists may submit up to ten slides of their work. For more
information check the ASD web site, E-mail Richard Russo, M.A. at RR@...
or send a SASE to Richard Russo, 835 Peralta St. Berkeley, CA 94707.

HOT OFF THE PRESS RESEARCH: The conference will include one or more
"Hot-off-the-Press" sessions, during which individuals will be given five
minutes to present recent research findings.

2003 CONFERENCE COMPUTER CAFE
The online 2003 Computer Cafe will offer quick access to many conference events
and presentations, including the 2003 Dream Art Exhibit, Presentation
Abstracts, Conference Program Schedules and the Annual Dream Telepathy Contest.
You can access the cafe via the 2003 Conference website at
http://www.asdreams.org/2003

>>>> Dreams on Spanish Speaking TV


http://www.psicologiaprofunda.com/

Dr. Sven Doehner will have a weekly segment on DREAMS on the program HOY, on
Televisa?s channel 2, every Tuesday at 9:30 in the morning (approximately) - and
you can see our web page (in Spanish) at: www.psicologiaprofunda.com


>>>>> Dreams Exhibition - Lila Koufopoulou


Lila Koufopoulou will soon be launching a sponsorship program concerning
her website: www.lilakoufopoulou.gr

Lila's artworks are based on the concept of "MIND & SPIRIT".
Her most recent visual art trilogy is called "Trilogy About Soul" and its 3rd
part is called "DREAMS."
Her DREAMS are suitable to decorate hotels, resorts, spas, banks, hospitals,
pharmaceutical companies and other social or private places that want to give
peace and spirit to the soul of the visitor.

According to "Deepmetrix Corporation" analysis, her three galleries -which
include video-art, paintings and poems-, attracted 427 visitors just the first
25 days of January 2003,
and made 4,739 hits worldwide!

Sponsoring categories will be: Golden Sponsors ( 2.000 euros),
Silver Sponsors ( 1.500 euros) and Bronze Sponsors ( 1.000 euros).
All sponsors will be given 30%-20%-10% discount for each purchase of her
paintings, according to the sponsorship category,

For further information and applications, please, contact Ms. Lila Koufopoulou:
Hyperlink mail to: info@...



>>>>>>>> Men and Women's Dream Day By the Bay
Lorraine Almeida, MFA
Saturday, February 1, 2003
10 a.m. to 3 p.m. (bring bag lunch. Water and teas provided)
18856 Hwy One, Marshall, CA
(415) 663-8622 lorraine@...

Lorraine Almeida, MFA leads a day of dreamwork and creative expression. It is
an opportunity to make conscious the unconscious by beginning to understand the
language of metaphors. Dreams speak in the ancient ways of the psyche; the
archetypal, poetic images of art forms. Dreams and Art speak in a universal
language that can help in the service of health and wholeness.

Cost for Workshop is $50. Limited to 10 people. Call or email for reservation
and directions.
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Women's Weekend Dream Retreat
Sat. Feb 15 and Sun. Feb 16, 2003
(same structure as above)
overnight accommodation provided
Workshop and accommodation are $150 total.



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Do you know of interesting new websites you?d like to share with others? Or do
you have updates to existing pages? Help spread the word by using the Electric
Dreams DREAM-LINK page
www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/online97.htm. This is really a public projects
board and requires that everyone keep up his or her own link URLs and
information. Make a point to send changes to the links page to us

>>>>The Dreaming Eye
http://www.thedreamingeye.com/
The Dreaming Eye is the website for artist and writer Alice Egoyan. Since early
childhood, dreams have been the source of her creativity and a search to
understand other states of consciousness. Ms. Egoyan currently works as a
freelance artist and her work has been featured on the cover of alternative
magazine Carpe Noctem, the cover for the book 'Dreams, Nightmares and Tales of
the Future' by Dogu Y?cel-published in Istanbul, Turkey , a CD cover and booklet
for independent musical artist Releveler, and in 1998 one of her digital
artworks was presented in a special show at the Fresno Art Museum. She was also
a finalist in the recent Online Symbolist Art Show entitled 'The Dreamer and the
Dreamed'.

>>>> Book O' Dreams by Scott McLoud
http://www.dreamscott.com
Explore 30 years of dreams from one man's brain. Scott's dream journal includes
helpful illustrations, pictures, links, and commentary. The online version has
been running since 1999. No analysis, but dreams given context.

>>>>>Ancient Dream Book Exhibit Online
Sigmund Freud wrote that "In later antiquity Artemidorus of Daldis was regarded
as the greatest authority on dream-interpretation ..." Now you can take a look
at pictures of the original books at the US National Library of Medicine website
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/greek/greek_artemidorus.html

>>>>> Dream Wisdom site offers articles
http://www.dreamwidsom.info
The new Dream Wisdom site from Dr. Alan Siegel is partially a site to promote
his new book Dream Wisdom, but also offers chapters from the book and chapters
from previous books as well as other important dream documents, such as a free
quick training course on dreams and PTSD. The Dream Wisdom articles are for both
parents and children, and include the basics in dream recall and memory as well
as how to handle nightmares. More articles will be appearing in the next few
months.

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D R E A M C A L E N D A R

February 2003

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JURIED ART EXHIBIT: The deadline for submitting work to the 2003 Dream Art Show
is March 1, 2003. Artists may submit up to ten slides of their work. For more
information check the ASD web site, E-mail Richard Russo, M.A. at RR@...
or send a SASE to Richard Russo, 835 Peralta St. Berkeley, CA 94707.

Men and Women's Dream Day By the Bay
Lorraine Almeida, MFA
Saturday, February 1, 2003
10 a.m. to 3 p.m. (bring bag lunch. Water and teas provided)
18856 Hwy One, Marshall, CA
(415) 663-8622 lorraine@...



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An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange

By Lucy Gillis


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We feature all types of lucid dreams in the LDE, but we also like to set aside
some room for particular dream themes. Below is a selection from readers who
shared their techniques and experiences with the current theme, Flying Lucid
Dreams.



Robert Waggoner, Many Kinds of Flying....
August 5-6 02


(Note: There has been some research done on the sensation of rocking and its
effect on the vestibular system and a subsequent increase in lucid dreaming. At
the beginning of this dream, please note that the "rocking" is occurring "in"
the dream and then leads to lucidity. I have noticed this in many of my lucid
dreams. It may suggest that as far as our vestibular system is concerned,
"mental rocking is just as good as physical rocking". So the next time you want
to make another character in the dream lucid like you, then rock 'em.)


Wendy and I are in a small plane -- the pilot is horrible -- we are coming in
for a landing in a thunderstorm, so we swoop and swerve all over, dodging
electric lines and trees! Finally we land and get out. As we begin to walk in
the dusky night, I sense that the setting is just "too dreamy". Then I become
convinced. I tell Wendy, "Let's fly! I'll show you how," and I grab her arm and
we fly about 50'. We do this a few more times. She keeps getting better each
time. I finally tell her that to fly well when lucid, you have to "see yourself
where you want to be." I point to a car, and say, "see yourself there and then
fly, it's easier." I joke with her and we laugh about it. We go through a gate
and into a beautiful garden -- it is almost like a mini-paradise. I wonder if
this scene is a reflection of my happy mood or has some other meaning.


We walk into a scene of some guys setting up something by a wall. I decide to
try an old trick and so I announce, "All of those who are mental forms,
disappear!" But I am surprised that they don't disappear since this has worked
in times past. Instead they look at me over their shoulders. I keep moving.


We go farther. I tell this one guy who looks like Robin Williams that I want to
know all there is about flying in dreams. He says dryly, "Not that Superman kind
of flying stuff." I say, "Yes." He shakes his head and explains, "You have got
to understand that there are many different kinds of flying." He pauses.
"There's jungamon, hugamon, and tagamon flying and there's...." (he continues
with about four more odd names). He tries to make a point that different types
of lucid flying are required for different types of lucid environments, and that
it is best to use the most appropriate one. Superman flying seems to be a very
modest level. He goes on with more information about using thoughts, mental
mentations, and flying. He has a helper who looks a bit like Craig Webb.


We walk into a banquet area. I see some nice dishes and yogurt and strawberries,
etc. The Craig-guy grabs some. A young wait staff woman looks at me and then
says to another, "Is he the one?" The other gives her a look as if to say,
"Don't spoil it." Then the Robin-looking guy says that he has some very
interesting things for me - that he will reveal more than ever before. He keeps
announcing his 'mystery' in different ways until I begin to wonder, if he really
has any knowledge to share. (Gets a bit fuzzy here.)


Somehow I fly off or begin to see a small electrical device with cords, and
there are two people lying there nearby. They seem to be sleeping or
unconscious. As I wonder what to do next, I can hear our cat in 'waking reality'
- it keeps pushing on the door, and I begin to have a false awakening of writing
this dream down - then it bangs again and I awake.


Shirley Hadley
Flying Dream
10-25-98


I was standing with these two women looking at this house. It was night-time and
the house was dark. They were talking about wanting to go into this house. They
were afraid to. So I spoke up and said, "I am not afraid, I will go in there and
see what is going on." So in I went. The house was empty, except for this one
room. As I approached the doorway I saw this brilliant glowing light. Hanging
from the ceiling was this most amazing spiraling light form of energy. I went up
to it and merged myself with it. I felt myself expanding. I grew and grew, so
huge that my energy flowed out of the house and into the surrounding landscape.
I spoke these words, "We all create our own realities". My voice was so loud and
booming that it sent reverberating echoes out over the land. Then I withdrew
from the spiraling energy form and walked back outside. I was so excited that I
went over to the two ladies and picked them up in my arms and flew them all over
the sky. I was singing to them and just so joyful to be able to comfort them and
to be flying with such ease and playfulness. Once again there was not one
particular part of the experience where I suddenly became lucid. I knew from the
beginning of the dream that I was creating it. Once you grasp that full
realization, that you indeed not only create your life, but also every aspect of
your dreams, then you understand that there really is no part of you that is
unconscious or not aware. You are always in a lucid state of "beingness".


Craig Webb
Vibrant Senses
2002-10-23


At home in what seems it might be my childhood home yet the window on the room
I'm in is like the room where I am sleeping, yet I don't really wait around long
enough to tell for sure because I spontaneously begin to go lucid. To confirm
it's a dream, I lean partially out through the front wall and window,
tentatively knowing that if I don't pass through the wall/window then it's not a
dream, but if I do, I won't have to worry because I can fly (interesting logic).
Obviously, the latter happens and it feels great to be fully lucid and flying. I
swoop down to feel the grass with my hands and feet and enjoy the visual clarity
of these black and red pots or pieces of cookware that are there in the green
grass. I take in the colors. I even stick my face down into the grass and feel
it against my cheek, and breathe in and enjoy the fresh smell of it. The scent
is not super strong but I can definitely smell it. I leap up and fly again,
wondering how much time before the dream ends as I fly around over the
community. Then I notice a woman flying in the opposite direction and so I think
that it would be great to go and meet or call in a friend or two to the dream.
But first, I decide to meet whoever it is who went by. It's someone I vaguely
recognize and she's a pretty young woman, maybe even with slight elements of old
friend Janet R. from where I used to work in my teens. We meet and embrace a bit
and there is a slight composite character element with my new friend C. Anyway,
she tentatively starts to sit on my lap, and there doesn't seem to be any sexual
energy. I encourage her to go ahead and sit down, and we feel a lot of joy to be
hugging and hanging out together as the dream fades.


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Recording Your Dreams
? 2003 Linda Lane Magall?n
(Excerpted from "How To Fly")

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A dream is a personal document, a letter to oneself.
Calvin Hall


Once you are able to recall your flying dream, what then? Will you remember your
experience this evening, next week or a year from now? Perhaps your breakfast
companions will help you perpetuate the memory. But if they listen with half an
ear, like my family does, I wouldn't count on it. Instead it's best to make a
record of the dream.


There are some folks who just draw or paint their dreams. However, artistic
renderings usually capture but a few symbols or a single scene and can take a
lot of time. One dreamer I know acts out the dream as best she can, but this
restricts memory mainly to gesture. Another dreamer I know uses a tape recorder.
Unfortunately, locating a particular dream later can be a problem. Do you fast
forward or rewind? Most folks find a written record to be the richest, most
accessible and stable method for the long term. At first, it's best to record
every dream you can remember, until it becomes a habit you can easily return to,
like riding a bicycle.


Here are some advantages of a written record:
1) Handwriting mimics the "flow" of the dream. Dreams are rarely just symbol
snapshots; they tend to be movies, instead. Simply putting pen to paper can
evoke the sequence of events that eludes us if we try to remember everything at
once.
2) Writing is yet another memory review. It adds the tactile element: the
movement of our hands help "fix" recall in cellular memory. We will be able to
remember with our body, not just our brain.
3) The process of writing helps organize our thoughts about the dream. New
insights can appear, ideas and connections will occur and these become clues to
understanding the content of the dream.
4) If we wake up in the middle of the night and do not write down our dreams, we
may not recollect them when we reawaken in the morning.
5) The hard copy provides the opportunity for later review, which can be
invaluable for dream sharing, dream analysis and discovering psychic elements.


Making A Written Record


I'm amazed that some dreamers seem to be able to record all their dreams
perfectly, the first time, exactly as they recall them, in a nice bound book
with few additions and mistakes. Or directly onto a typewriting page or an
e-mail memo. They must have much better memory and more patience than I do!
Sometimes I wonder if they are recording only simple dreams...or perhaps their
reports are generalizations, lacking the details?


When complexity is at a minimum, when the dream progresses in coherent form, I,
too, can review the whole dream, scene by scene. In that case, the dream story
will flow from my pen as final copy, no corrections required.


But I must admit that most of my initial dream reports are, to put it nicely,
rough drafts. I like to record my dreams curled up under the covers with a legal
pad balanced on my knees. I grab out of memory what I can recall and write it
down. The first go-round can miss things. It tends to be quick glances and
phrases rather than a complete story narrative. And I'm not the only dreamer who
sometimes records the dream backwards, last scene first.


Dreams On Computer


Do these rough drafts get transformed into a legible record that I'm willing to
share with others? Sometimes yes and sometimes no. It depends on how motivated I
am and how much time I have to convert to sequential narrative. When I do make
the move to computer, I'll often keep both versions, in case there's something
I've overlooked in the transition.


At one point I experimented with a data base dream package that set up the dream
as a drama. It had location, characters, action and so forth. That was fine for
my regular dreams, but when it came to the unusual, like imageless dreams and
hypnogogia, it didn't fit at all. So I finally gave up trying to put my square
pegs into round holes. I ignored the standard classifications and created my
own. When recording methods and materials threaten to limit your dreams, make
sure your dreams win the day.


There is one important thing a text-based software doesn't provide: large
margins for drawings and doodles. After all, signs, symbols and scenery are
basically visual images. It may be that a verbal description won't capture what
a quick sketch can do. Then, you might draw dream objects, dream characters or
maps of dream locations.


Detailing The Dream


Some Basic Elements In Dream Reports
1) Scenery and props
2) Characters
3) Action (including reading)
4) Overall context (story or theme)
5) Sounds (including conversations)
5) Taste and tactile sensations
6) Feelings, moods and emotions
7) Thoughts, ideas, intuition, memories and instincts


Over time, I've found that the most difficult things for me to recall are the
verbal and the written. I've noticed that fellow dreamers have trouble in this
area, too. Our dream reports tend to say, "The woman talks about...X" rather
than using exact quotes from the woman's conversation.


Since the words I read in the dream or audio statements dissipate most easily,
if they are present, I'll concentrate on remembering them first. And then, when
I unfreeze and begin to move around in bed, I'll grab my paper pad and write
those words down. Only then do I begin recording the dream scenes.


Once, a dreamer told me, "I really feel like I'm missing out on something if I
just record, 'I go to the store and buy three apples and go home.'"


I replied that I sometimes record a dream this way: "The man comes into the room
and says 'Hello' to me."


I continued telling him that at other times, I record a dream this way: "The
back of the blue and white Victorian faces south. Through the arched doorway,
ambles a fellow with the feeling tones of my grandfather and my current boss. At
about six feet four, he looms over me, but his informal clothing make me feel at
home. He wears faded blue overalls and a plaid shirt in soft earth tones.
Underneath a mop of long, blonde hair, his icy blue eyes stare at me curiously.
'Hello, Linda, how are you?' he asks."


It's the same essential event, but I've used two different ways to describe it.
I prefer the latter, but if I went into that much detail with every single
dream, I'd be writing forever.


Instead, I do detail work on selected dreams, when I have the time. Especially
with lucid dreaming and borderland experience, I am more aware of the subtleties
of my dreams. There is more to remember and thus more to record.


I think it's important to practice detailing at least some of your dreams. It's
another "discipline" in observation and becoming aware of the fullness, the
richness and the diversity in any dream. Try recording a dream vignette in vivid
detail every once in a while.


Again, freeze frame the dream and dredge up the feeling tones. As I'm pulling up
the information, I sometimes get a sense of the periphery or background of the
dream. For example, in the dream above, I could perceive that someone else was
standing next to me. Who was it? And what was happening around us? If I try to
play with the sensation of the dream, I might determine that there were more
folks in the room than just the man and me. Ah, yes, there were several people -
male, female, young and old. And, we were gathered for a meeting.


Dream air-obics starts to stretch your awareness, and again it's a real paradox.
You begin by concentrating on one thing, yet to do so, you pull energy from the
corner of your mind so that it, too, comes further into the center of your
awareness.


While general exercise of the mind muscles is great for general health, there is
a specific practical reason to pay attention to detail. It's dream analysis.
Factual recording features nouns first, then action verbs. But it can miss
adjectives and adverbs. Without description detail (like color), overall
feeling-tone or specific emotions, important clues to unlock the meaning or
source of the dream may elude you.


Reading the report of an experienced recorders opened my eyes to elements I'd
not been including...such as
1) What I look like or am wearing
2) Which direction I am going
3) How high or far away an object is
4) What the weather is like
5) How I react to what I am observing
6) How the other characters are acting or reacting to me


Dream recording is a skill that requires both memory and ability to put down
what you recall. It's a skill that can improve, as you discover story elements
and details that you may have previously ignored.


And remember, not all dreams are visual. You might awaken with just the sound of
rushing wind, a blissful feeling or the vivid sensation of floating. I sometimes
awake knowing that I have been thinking a lot. If any sort of image forms, it's
of words on a page: a phrase, a sentence. Or, I seem to be moving blocks of
information around, just like I do on the computer. Most likely, I've just left
a non-REM sleep period. Converting the abstract to language can be a real
challenge!


Tensed Dreams


Can you tell the difference between these two dreams?


I am in Lima, Peru on the ocean with a camera. I'm trying to get a perfect shot
and not drop the camera in the ocean. I ride the crest of the waves. I keep
setting up the shot but the timing is off. I want to click it at the crest of
the wave, but I keep missing the shot.
CH, California


I was swimming in the sea. The sea was blue green and deep blue in the distance,
the bottom sandy, the water cool and clear, the sky clear blue. The wind was
whipping up small waves.
BW, Athens, Greece


One dream is written in present tense; the other in past tense. In the first,
the dreaming self is in the middle of the action, playing a starring role in the
movie. The other is more detached. It's written from the point of view of a
waking ego, trying to remember something that happened oh, so, far away and long
ago. It's not designed to retrieve that distant memory and bring it to you
*here.*


When it comes to recording your dreams, I urge you to use the present tense.
Writing a dream in present tense keeps it vibrant...not as vague understanding
by the waking ego...but as the life of the dreaming self. As one of my dream
characters told me, "The time is now!" Thinking and writing in present tense
keeps us close to the living dream.


Sometimes the dream refers back to what happened before the current scene. In
that case, I use the past tense to indicate my dreaming self's good memory of
things that I, as a waking ego, may not be aware.


Day Notes


I always use past tense when I write what happened the previous day. To
differentiate my waking ego voice from the "voice" of my dreaming self, I try to
place most notes below the dream proper. I once had a dream about leaping a
fence. After recording it, I wrote my quick associations:


(Note: Yesterday I was hiking in the woods, when I saw a similar fence. I was
thinking about an article I'm going to write about the upcoming conference.)


If I insert comments within the dream text, I'll use parentheses and the past
tense to alert me that this item didn't occur until after the dream ended. For
instance, it wasn't until *after* I woke that I decided the man in my dream
looked like my friend Bob:


The man (reminded me of Bob Trowbridge) walks with me to the fence.


If you try to understand a dream long after it occurred, lack of day notes may
mean you are unable to relate your dream elements to your waking life. This can
be a block to either symbolic interpretation or literal recall.


Titling A Dream


Right after you finish recording your dream, you know the main symbols, the
action and your immediate associations. Fine. Simply bring your pen back up to
the top of the page and write them down. Voila! You've got a title. For example,
I might call the above dream, "Bobbing and Leaping the Fence."


Titling dreams is important for many reasons. At first, it provides a sense of
completion. It's as if you have finished a chapter in a book and can now go on
to the next story. Later, reading a well-crafted title will trigger memory of
the full dream. It's a lot easier to find a titled dream a year, a month or even
a week later.


Titling is a very creative act, a kind of dream Haiku, where you take the
essence of the dream and focus on it in the few words that form the title.
Gleaning the essence can unlock the dream for interpretation. Sometimes, writing
out the title releases the puns within.
1) Give Me a Brake (I'm going too fast, in danger of breaking up a relationship)
2) Pulling Dreamworkers Out of the Soup (I'm acting like a Mom with my dream
group, trying to rescue them from troubled dreams)
3) Putting the U into Study (I put the subjective "You" into the objective "It,"
the study of dreams. I'm making dream study personal.)


Timing The Dream


In the past, dreamers would request my help in interpreting a dream. I'd ask
them, "Well, when did you have that dream?" And they'd say, "I don't know.
Maybe two or three weeks ago." Or, "A couple of years ago." Then I'd ask, "What
was going on in your life when you had the dream?" Too often, they don't
remember.


If you want to crack the dream code, dates are often crucial. After recording
your dream, I simply turn my head and look at the calendar that I have tacked to
my bedroom wall. I could also look at my wristwatch. You don't have a calendar
in view? Get one.


I may not always have day notes within my dream record. But if I know the date,
I can go to my personal engagement calendar (written or electronic) to discover
what I was doing during waking life in the neighborhood of the dream date.


Is the "dream date" the day you go to bed or the day you wake up? Some people
use one, some the other. I use the day before, because that's when my
preparation begins. The least confusing method can be to use both dates, such as
"October 3-4."


Dating the dream can be useful to indicate special occasions. Some folks keep
track of moon phases and Astrological signs, too. Did you know that "The Day of
Airborne Dreamers" is June 29th? So, have you ever had flying dreams on that
night? You'll not be able answer to that question unless you've already put
dates on your past dream reports.


If you have a clock on your night stand, you can put down the time as well.
Recording the time helped me determine the variance in types of dreams, like
when I usually had nightmares and when I was most likely to have a lucid dream.
Numbering the dreams let me know which type came first, which came afterwards,
in any given night. If I record the dream backwards or most important scene
first, numbering the paragraphs is crucial.


There are many other things you might write with your dream report, but this is
the bare minimum.
1. Title and date (and number, if more than one)
2. The text of the dream report
3. Day notes (if you have a quick idea about the dream)


When You Wake Without A Dream


What if you can't remember a full dream? Write down key words. The outline of
the dream. The picture fragments. And if you can't recall any fragments? The
thoughts, feelings or sensations just before you woke. And if you are a total
blank?


Initially, while you are developing the dream record habit, it's best to write
down something every morning. You can...
1) Record how you slept.
2) Record the first feelings of the day.
3) Write down why you want to recall dreams.
4) Create an affirmation for dream recall.
5) Sketch a thought.
But please don't record "No dreams." This is a self-defeating prophecy.


Later, these pump-priming activities give way to the outflow of actual dreams.


References


Dee, N. The Dreamer's Workbook. (New York: Sterling Publishing, 1990).
Garfield, P. Creative Dreaming. (New York: Ballantine Books, 1974).
Koch-Sheras, P., E.A. Hollier, B. Jones. Dream On/A Dream Interpretation and
Exploration Guide for Women. (Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey: Prentice-Hall,
1983).
Magall?n, L. L. Psychic-Creative Dreaming. (Internet course, 1997).
Moss, R. Conscious Dreaming. (New York: Crown Trade Paperbacks, 1996).
Roberts, J. How to Develop Your ESP Power. (New York: Frederick Fell Publishers,
1974).
Wilkerson, R. C. "An Introduction to Dreamwork/Guidelines and Journal Keeping."
(On-line document, 1998).


http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html
(Dream Flights)






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A View from the Bridge
Report on the World Dreams Peace Bridge

Dreaming for Peace through the New Year

Jean Campbell

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http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/monthyupdates.htm

During the last days of 2002 and the first days of 2003, members of the World
Dreams Peace Bridge journaled a huge lot of peace dreams. As the world's only
ongoing group dreaming experiment, the Peace Bridge is also the most expressive
long-term journaling group as well.

I can hardly do justice here to the breadth and scope of over thirty dreamers,
recording dreams over a three week period, from countries as far flung as
Australia, Korea, the United States and German, but I will try. Because I
suspect that these dreams may be the clearest expression we have of the World
Dream, or the dreams for peace of people around the world.

The cycle of year-end dreams began appropriately enough, with a dream from
Victoria in Australia, who dreamed of a sweet little girl ghost who, she said,
made her wonder if the Zeitgeist of the current time is not this child.
Victoria's dream took place just before the December 21, 2002, Solstice,
celebrated by Peace Bridge members joining others from around the world in the
annual Planetary Dream, sponsored by Roger Ripert at Oneiros.com.

The theme of the Planetary Dream in 2002 was World Peace, and dreams can be
found at http://www.onieros.fr/dreams02.html

For myself, the year-end dreams have contained a number of jokes, surprises, and
verbal puns, something which seems to have been shared by others as well.

In my own Solstice dream, I dreamed of a news reporter, who is depressed and
frustrated because the newspaper he works for won't report the "good news."
Then he realizes that he can publish a column on the Internet entitled "World
Peace Is Free."

When I reported this dream to dreamchatters, so Roger could put it online, I
actually had a couple of people write back volunteering to write columns for
this venture. Who knows what might happen?

That same night, from Sweden, Juhani wrote: "I remember just a short snippet.
My dream was something about two arguing Norwegians. I remember just that short
snippet. The case was solved somehow in a peaceful way."

Richard, in California, had a dream he called "Three Ways to Take Flight." Take
a look at the last line for a possible planetary message. Maybe we need to
learn a little more about flying.

I'm at an ocean beach and it a delightful day, partially foggy. Many people are
at the beach, but its not crowded. I have just come out of a hotel and am making
my way down to the beach with some friends when we come across a group of people
about to go para-sailing. A motor boat speeds along the shoreline a the flyer
rises high up above the beach in a beautiful blue/purple sail. It looks less
like a parasail than it does the kind of parachutes used by precision jumpers,
more rectangular with puffy ridges.
We learn that they are experimenting with various ways to fly. The group tries a
second method , more like using the natural wind from the beach, like a
hang-glider. The flyer runs along the beach until the wind catches the kite like
sail and takes him up into the air.

Soon a third experiment is in progress. This time a little rocket is attached to
the back of a man and he holds a very stiff set of wings. We are all a bit
concerned that the rocket will blow up or shoot him too fast across the beach,
but soon he is flying just fine, and at this point I am the rocket man, flying
across the beach with all the people getting smaller below me. Its quite
exhilarating, though I wonder if these little stiff wings can carry me once the
rocket fuel is out. end.

But then came the most surprising Planetary Dream of all. Peace Bridge member,
Nick, from Australia, reported on an ongoing lucid dream experiment, which has
been taking place through his web site, Dream of Peace. Rather than interpret
what he had to say, I'll give it to you in his own words:

Planetary Team Dream
For the last seven months I've been part of a group of dreamers, sharing dreams
on a rather regular basis. We initially used email to communicate, and were
spread around the world. This team is more than just a group for dream
interpretation. The aim is to get people involved in the arts of active
dreaming. The use of dreams, as a source of creativity, healing, to undertake
group journeys and to recover previously unknown information. I am especially
excited by the idea of teams of dreams working together with a common goal.

Recently a second group was formed, with members from a dreaming forum known as
Lucid Dreaming 4 All (ld4all.com). Some of the members mentioned in this story,
are Explora (myself) from Melbourne, Australia; Pilot from the USA; Aydira from
Michigan, USA; and Atheist from Canberra, Australia. A group normally has
between 6-10 people, and involves contributing to discussion about 2-3 times a
week. Anyone interested in joining a dream team can visit this page
(www.spektral.com.au/dreamofpeace.net/dreamteams/)



I am also a member of the World Dreams Peace Bridge
(www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org), a much larger group discussing dreams and
their role in bringing peace to the world. Here, I found mention of a project
known as the Planetary dream (www.oniros.fr/PD02.html). The 2002 planetary dream
'is part of a new set of dreams related to the construction of the new age', and
was to take place on the nights of the winter solstice in the northern
hemisphere)

I posted noticed this project of the forum, and although we had interesting
dreams during these nights, it was not until Christmas Day (for Pilot and
Aydira), and Boxing Day (for Explora) that we had these dreams. Looking at the
content of the dreams though, there is no doubt that they had some relevance to
the Planetary Dreams project.

Pilots Dream:
I was doing my homework in math in a small room in an apartment, and I received
an email from LD4ALL which was a long article on the peace project for today. It
was broken down into categories each lasting a few hours. For the first part we
were supposed to imagine reality (what a missed dream sign!) and I found it
strange and I didn't understand what I should be thinking of. The next part was
to think of peace or something like that, and I was skeptical about its
effectiveness yet determined to do it either way.

Aydiras Dream:
In the dream within the dream I was in that living room except there was no
decorations. There was somesort of thing on the floor that i can't really
describe. I, explora and Atheist were there and i think Pilot was also. the
thing was like a um train somehow?... hmm well I'l have to try to explain it
later when more coherent. I'm at a loss for words. We were sitting around it and
we crawled around it, turning it with us, it reminded me of the earth sort of. I
felt full of love. It had pictures on the inner circle of people in different
countries including us on this team. I sat at the place for my part of the world
and the others sat at theirs and we turned it.

A bit later:
I went over to the computer and then I was chatting with explora in a blue chat
room. I was telling him about my Lucid Dream and i remember these words also one
line after another:
Hold (as in embracing someone.)
Love. and then the word
Acceptance (to explain the first word better)
-- Now those are the words that make me thing of that weird train thing that i
couldn't describe...

Response from Pilot:
I tend to think of the groups' dream sharing as a ball of light while
visualizing everybody sitting around it, and energy flowing in and out of this
energy ball and between each other. I also think of you guys in relation to your
names and where you live as you sit in the circle. I'm not sure if this is the
right thing to do but at least it gives me a way to focusing my intent to share
dreams. Sounds very similar to a few things you've described in your dream.

Explora's Dream
I am talking to Aydira. I am speaking about using magic to will something to
happen. How we can set our sights on a goal, and watch as gradually the way
towards that goal is made.

--
Explora
http://www.dreamofpeace.net/

As if these wonderful Solstice dreams were not enough, I had to make the
suggestion for a year-end Dream In to the World Dreams Peace Bridge. Kathy,
from Australia, came through with the following suggestion:

"And as for a Dream In, I'd love that. I was thinking yesterday about a Dream
In I'd like to do. I'd like to dream support for all those people I consider
create difficulties in the world (especially in relation to the war on Iraq).

"Why?

1. I feel that all people have compassion within them
2. I feel that we can most easily find that compassion by being supported in
being just who we are.

"I know it is a bit difficult to give support to those I fear/dislike/am wary
of, etc. And yet I really can't think of any better thing I can do now. They
all will act whatever I do. How they act will depend upon all that has gone on
before in their life, on their character, on their context, etc. To give them
support (real support--no strings attached as to how I think they should act) is
to allow them to expand beyond their habitual responses. This seems one
possible approach to using dreams as a peace tool.... So what about a DREAM FOR
PEACE: support for those we see as our enemies."

The date was set for New Years, and the dreams poured in. What I will give you
here is a sampling of them:

Those of you who have read the paper "The World Dreams Peace Bridge as a
Long-Term Group Journaling Project", which I presented at the ASD Conference in
Boston in 2002 (available at The World Dreams Peace Bridge site World Dreams
Peace Bridge - History ) might recall one of the initial dreams about the Peace
Bridge, Jody's dream of growing the New Era Seeds. A new Peace Bridge member,
Kat, seems to have carried through on the theme:

I am planting seeds in my garden outside, digging lines in the soil, putting
seeds in the ground and covering them up. I go inside my house. I am in my
bedroom sitting on the bed. I look outside through my circular bubble window,
and I can see the plants have grown, and they look like they have grown into the
beginning of a Medicine Wheel. I see three statues in the center of the
Medicine Wheel, and one of them is a Buddha statue facing me. I see it very
clearly and I am fascinated by it. I get up from the bed and start putting
little statues in every pot of potted plants in my room.

Sharon, also from the United States, had a series of three or four dreams. Even
though she had not read the message about the Dream In, she said, all of these
dreams related to peace and conflict resolution. "I think the dreams had a
specific message for me, and maybe a greater one for the world," she wrote to
the Peace Bridge. "Ever since September 11th, I have had a hard time not
becoming cynical, especially with the U.S. government. I am in tears when I
take a moment to think how many bombs I have paid for with my taxes. I hate the
thought of all the U.S. military actions being done in the names of U.S.
citizens that have no interest in killing others.

"So, for me, the dreams gave me hope. While on the surface, things may look
very grim and bleak, something else, some sort of healing that I'm not aware of,
may be going on under the surface. I just need to continue whatever I can do to
take care of the world...whatever my small piece is. And, eventually, the
healing will come to light.

"Thank you for suggesting these dreamings. Now that I have a glimmer of hope,
my intention this evening for peace and goodness and compassion for all will be
a much stronger beacon."

From Austria, Johanna wrote:



I am in the court of a small house. It is the house of a dog breeder, an elderly
strange woman. The garden is paved and there are kennels for the dogs. I go
inside and walk upstairs to talk to the breeder. I tell her that she does not
treat the dogs well! I am very angry at her.

Not very peaceful, hmmm?


Kathy herself recorded her second dream of the month taking place in "Aladdin's
Cave". She writes:


The Two Gifts


Two gifts came to "me". They floated down from heaven and "I" reached up and
received them. "I'm" on the island (of my Aladdin's Cave dream; but here it is
covered in greenery and not in a cave but in the ocean). The first gift is a
white slab wrapped in celophane. "I" spread it over the island and loveliness
results. The second gift is a black slab. "I'm" surprised I can use it. "I"
break it up into small squares (like chocolate) and also distribute it over the
island. Again loveliness results.


I'm aware after the dream that the "I" in my dream is hardly me at all - just a
certain centre of awareness ???? which i aligned myself with??? (vague). Also I
felt, after the dream, that the first gift was something like ozmocote
(spelling?? a slow release fertilizer!!) and the second gift was really close
to peat moss. I awoke three times in the night - found I'd forgotten the
dream, remembered it again fell back to sleep and so on. What I did forget by
the morning was the particular way in which loveliness appeared - I suspect the
forgetting was itself part of the dream - perhaps because it occurs in so many
different forms - and I have to find the particular form for me.

And finally, May, who is originally from China, had what could be called the yin
and yang of all dreams:

OH!
I suddenly become aware that this boy, about 14 or 15, has been in the
neighborhood for quite some time. I?ve heard people saying how industrious he
is, that he is working to save up money to go to college. I?m impressed. What he
does is between a paper route and selling magazine subscriptions. I buy two
"subscriptions" from him, one for myself and one for this middle aged wm whom I
also suddenly realize has been a neighbor for a long time.
The second part has only one image. I see a colorful round object like a
roulette but lies flat on the table like a piece of cardboard. In the middle
there is another circle. I notice there are two words "WISH", "WASH" alternately
appearing in the center circle. EOD



Later, May commented, "I thought the WISH/WASH meant, if we are not positive in
WISHING something good, it'll be a WASH! The "it" here is life? the world?

So finally we came to the end of the year, with only one set of dreams to go.
Even though Jeremy was not consciously participating in any of these activities,
since he was vacationing in New Zealand at the time, when it came time for the
January 10th ASD Dream Activists' monthly "Awakened Heart" dreaming, Jeremy sent
in the following dream:

THE DYING PROFESSOR

I could to the entrance of a huge court, inside a low wall. Perhaps - it is up
slope. I am told by people I am with of a professor who lives there who is
interested in the study of Asian women. I ask if he is a certain person I?d seen
with his hair pushed up. No, this is someone else, and I hear that I can meet
him. The court is wide and long (somewhat larger than a tennis court) and
covered with a thin layer of sparkling blue water with grass at the sides. We go
in and at the far end meet the professor. I feel insecure, but hear he is dying,
so must see him now. I gather my courage. He is lying down. I say I am
interested in his work on History. I say this in Korean. I can?t remember the
word for History and ask one of the others with me. One said. "Yuksa." The
professor is wearing and greenish-purplish Hanbok. Then I say, "I am interested
in women."This might sound strange, so I say "Sim Sa Im Dang, Taegyo (She was
the mother of prenatal education. - Taegyo)" He, lying on his side) ignores me.
Then I say, also "Tae-mong (birth dreams). I wrote books on these." He looks
away. Then I take his hand and ask, "Are you cold?" He nods, "Yes." Is it "Apa
(does it hurt)?"He nods. "Mani apa (much hurt)?" He nods and is happy. I have
returned to the reality of the moment. Then he gets up and goes to the wide
curving top of a rock connected to the palace. He begins to dance gracefully. It
is wonderfully free style Korean dance, slow and graceful. Soon someone in our
group says, "We must go. There is a line of people waiting to come in and see
this area. They heard he was here." I can see the line behind us, led by
Buddhist monks. But I protest. "He is dancing for us, for me, not for them! He
wants me to see!" But I go with them, all the while looking back at his figure
dancing, as he grows smaller, not wanting to miss a movement. EOD

"The dream has to do w being oneself in the moment and caring for others as they
are, regardless of our accomplishments or theirs. On simply being human and
true, not a false ghost of the past," Jeremy noted.

"The palace comes from the Peace Palace in India where the Peace & Children
conference will be held. The professor is not me - with the hair brushed up
(opposite of mine) but rather a younger Korean man about 50, perhaps rep
Professor Wan a retired Philosophy professor I was talking to my wife about last
night, a dear man we haven?t seen in years. History comes from the book on
Chinese History I was perusing last night. The water court comes from the wet
bowling green I saw in Nelson, N.Z. Green and purple are complimentary colors. I
am afraid Professor Wan who is about 90 will die before we meet him again. I
realize it is artificial to speak of my accomplishments to try to get someone?s
attention or impress him. (once I did this when meeting a great Korean political
cartoonist at his retirement exhibition - he had no interest in that I wrote
poetry). Once I return to simple humanity, I can reach him or anyone. Simply
asking how someone is - anyone, no matter of what status, and showing genuine
concern for their condition brings forth gratitude, and I must focus on this
during my interactions with others. Coming back to Korea I am faced with much
work of various kinds and feel a bit insecure, even about my appearance. I must
focus on the essentials of being alive and human and this will succor me. Before
sleeping last night I was very weary. Then I did a dance in the dark of the
livingroom - a graceful (to my mind) tribute to the four directions and this
revived me some. The monks at the front of the line imply a death coming - the
professor was dying and they had come to show their respects. But due to my
concern for him, he ha revived. Last night too I called an old American friend
of mine, who told me about a program on Korean dance which he had wanted me to
attend a few days ago. Hence the dancing in the dream.

"This issue of humanity is very important. When I was traveling in N.Z. and
became close to others, I noticed when I mentioned the Peace Train, the color of
our conversation changed - there was something artificial - business-like, or
out of rhythm there, and for a few moments until I changed the subject something
human was lost - even when enthusiasm was received - I didn?t want it felt that
I was befriending them simply because of that, so once the statement & or
request was out, I moved on to something else - more personal. I had become a
movement, a cause, a salesman. And yet, there must be someway to balance the
two, for the Peace Train or any Peace Movement is about humanity and preserving
humanity. Jean, you and Victoria, May and others I reckon have plenty of
experience at this. Our dream group in itself is a good example of a very human
balance."

Liz, responded with what she called an "end of the world dream"

Unfortunately did not write it down.. but it was an 'end of world'
dream -- I was talking to an older male, looked something like Hagrid in Harry
Potter movies, who told me, when we were talking about the world and what is
going to happen, that he received a tarot reading.
It was implied in the dream that it was about the state of the world (as opposed
to the reading being about him personally). In the particular spread that was
layed out (unlike the celtic spread) all tarot cards but three are used... I can
only remember him saying that the "justice" card was one of the ones *not*
pulled (though he did specifically state all three and I can't remember the
other two!) I told him that my son had dreams of end of world too (and in real
life this is true).

"'End of world" seems like a bleak message," Liz said, "and is certainly not a
dream of peace, but thought I'd share it anyway."

And finally, there was my own dream of January 10th, which again reflects some
of the many themes presented in earlier Peace Bridge dreams, and again involves
humor.

"Now we come to the dream from last night," I wrote to the Peace Bridge. This
message, which is straight from my dream journal, is written in the voice of my
"Self" or the automatic writing I use for journaling. "Generally, you do not
record this type of dream, which is very personal, as a group dream or a world
dream. It was only because of the conversation in the car on the way to
Virginia Beach that you remembered the dream at all. Yet this dream does have a
message at both the personal and the global level. And we want you to recall
later that this dream resonates with Jeremy's last night dream of the dancing
professor.

The dream itself is quite simple. You and Anne are in a house, one similar to
the house you live in now, but larger, with larger rooms. The dogs, Daisy and
Song, are out in a fenced back yard.

Similar to the fence in your waking yard, this fence has three gates.

A man comes into the house, someone who lives there, someone with whom you feel
very comfortable. You simultaneously think of the dogs, and wonder where this
man has parked. You realize that, in parking his car, he has left one of the
gates open, and the dogs have probably escaped.

You rush out and call the dogs.

They appear to you. They have gone into a neighboring yard, where there are
children and some other dogs. Daisy comes to you, but Song is on a screened
porch with the neighbors boxer (dog). As you watch, the boxer takes Song's paw
into his mouth.

Oh no! you think, Song will be aggressive with this. He'll have to fight, and
that big boxer will kill him. You begin to run toward the porch, "Stop them,"
you yell to a woman on the porch.

Then the boxer simply lets go of Song's paw. You rush to pick Song up and take
him home. From under your arm, he telepaths to you in the laughing voice of a
delighted kid. "He didn't think I was a tasty morsel," he says. EOD

Now you and Anne already got to an understanding of "thinking out of the
box-er", which is certainly one meaning of the dream. We will focus on the more
public meanings, since they are the ones you will share. At a personal level,
there are meanings concerning various aspects of yourself attempting to
communicate, and you might well meditate on these aspects (even in a body work
sort of way.)

However, at the public level, you have been dealing, as has Jeremy, with the
subject of fame and aggression, with questions about making a public statement,
taking a position of leadership, and how to do that.

The answer, as Jeremy learned, is not to put oneself forward in the usual ways,
which have to do with defensiveness and posturing, but rather to "think out of
the box(er)" or to escape the confines of the ordinary.

The fact is that you were all and are all communicating regularly. We mean this
not in the sense of just people on the Bridge, but all the other dreamers as
well. And further, you are dreaming with all the creatures in the world, as
your communication with the dogs allowed.

What happens say both dreams, yours and Jeremy's, when we allow ourselves to
operate from our hearts and to enjoy the moment, is what happened in each dream.
In Jeremy's dream, the dying man began to dance. And in your dream, a
potentially dangerous situation was defused. "I was only having fun with him,"
Song says. "I didn't want to fight, and neither did he. Animals know when to
be aggressive and when not to be aggressive."

These dreams, both of them, are part of an entire series of dreams which have
been leading you since December. And they are part of a series of dreams which
will continue to lead you. As May's dream pointed out so precisely, wish and
wash are side by side at any moment, like yin and yang. It is the decision of
each moment that creates the world you know."

With hopes for the new year, let us all continue to dream.

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The World Dreams Peace Bridge is a group that uses personal dreams for public
world peace. You can find out more about the WDPB at

http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/

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Dreams of Expectant Mothers and Fathers

Alan Siegel, Ph.D.

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Adapted from
Dream Wisdom: Uncovering Life's Answers in Your Dreams

by Alan Siegel, Ph.D. Published in January 2003 by Ten Speed/Celestial Arts
Press, Berkeley, CA

www.dreamwisdom.info

Dream Wisdom offers a developmental framework for understanding dreams through
the life cycle by focusing on dreams during life's important turning points and
crises. During these critical moments, our dreams are more vivid and unique and
dramatic themes are associated with life transitions. Dream Wisdom features
chapters on patterns in dreams from childhood through old age. The following
excerpt is from the chapter on expectant parents dreams and features references
to Alan Siegel's original research on the dreams of expectant fathers.

DREAMS OF EXPECTANT MOTHERS AND FATHERS

With joy and trepidation we dream our children into existence.

From the moment of conception, expectant parents dream of many aspects of their
unborn child. In our pregnant dreams, we envision our child's face, their name,
the feeling of their skin. We burst with pride when our dream child talks
precociously. As expectant parents, we dream we risk life and limb to protect
our children from danger. Anxious about whether we will become good parents, and
we dream we blow it, neglecting or losing our dream children, forgetting to feed
them and causing them injury.

Many pregnancy dreams are filled with anxieties about the well-being of our
child and doubts about our competency as parents. It is very distressing to see
every fear and worst-case scenario played out in our pregnancy dreams. However,
there is an amazing paradox in these vivid worrisome pregnancy dreams. Despite
how distressing these nightmares are, they are actually helping us to prepare
for the indispensable role we must play as parent to our helpless newborn child.
A crucial function of pregnancy dreams is to rehearse and develop our parenting
skills and form an inner relationship with our unborn child.

The following two dreams were collected from women in the final stage of their
first pregnancies. Although a century apart, both have elements that are common
to the dreams of late pregnancy: the presence of water and the arrival of furry
mammals. The first dream is taken from Sigmund Freud's The Interpretation of
Dreams and was probably the dream of a Viennese woman near the end of the
Nineteenth Century.


The Trapdoor Seal

A subterranean channel led directly into the water from a place in the floor of
her room. She raised a trapdoor in the floor and a creature dressed in brown
fur, very much resembling a seal, presently appeared.


In the briefly reported associations to this dream, Freud noted that the
"creature turned out to be her younger brother to whom she had always been like
a mother." Freud did not elaborate at length on this dream, except to note also
that the subterranean channel and the water represented the birth canal and the
amniotic fluid.

The second dream, from the end of the Twentieth Century, is Jennifer's, a San
Francisco nurse in her eighth month of pregnancy.


The Smooth Skin of the Otter

I'm in labor and I am lying on a beach. The tide is coming in and big waves are
washing up onto shore. I keep calling for my husband. I know he's there, but I
can't see him. The waves are getting bigger and more dangerous. Just when the
waves seem like they are going to drown me, I see a little sea otter next to me.
I know it was supposed to be my baby, but I am confused that it looks like an
otter. I touch its skin and it is incredibly smooth.
Jennifer worried that her dream might signify something abnormal about her baby;
perhaps a premonition of some malformation. But as she told her dream at one of
my workshops for nurses and childbirth educators, there were many looks of
recognition on the faces of the other women in the class. They quickly
volunteered that they, too, had frightening dreams during their pregnancies. As
Jennifer listened to the other women discuss the details of their anxiety
dreams, she was reassured. She saw the dream as representing not danger, but
joyful expectation of holding her baby and touching its wonderful soft skin.


Jennifer's dream contains a number of other themes common to women in their last
trimester of pregnancy. The imminence of labor is often represented by waves,
earth tremors, other powerful movements, and a feeling of losing control.

During the second and third trimester of pregnancy, many women also have
heightened fears about the well-being of their spouse. In Jennifer's dream, her
husband's presence is sensed, but he is unable to arrive soon enough to protect
her from the dangerous waves of labor.

Pregnancy dreams may focus on anxieties that haunt both men and women even
during a healthy pregnancy. These include themes that exaggerate the dangers of
labor and delivery, and fears about birth defects. Dreams also express marital
tensions, feelings of rejection, and fears about being an incompetent parent. As
horrifying as they may feel, anxiety dreams and nightmares during pregnancy
provide us with an early warning system that alerts us to the fears and concerns
that we need to work out.

You may feel reassured to know that women who have more frequent dreams
involving anxiety or threat had shorter labors and healthier deliveries with
fewer complications. A study of seventy women, by researchers Carolyn Winget and
Frederic Kapp at the University of Cincinnati, concluded that troubling dreams
may be evidence of important conflicts that were being resolved. When fewer
distressing dreams were remembered, women tended to have longer labors and more
complications. Those women who recalled more troubling dreams had shorter labors
with fewer complications. Their dreams appeared to have helped them work out the
normal anxieties that accompany the final stage of pregnancy.

Medical breakthroughs have given us the technology to diagnose and treat risk
factors during pregnancy and delivery. With electronic sensing and imaging we
can listen to our baby's heartbeat and actually look into the womb to see our
baby very early in the pregnancy.

Technological advances, however, are not the only resources we have for
understanding what's going on with us during pregnancy. We can also use our
dreams as an emotional ultrasound. They provide a way to look into the
unconscious and see how we're responding to the changes in our identity, our
marriage, our relationships with family and friends, and our newly forming
attachment to our unborn child.

Exploring dreams can help expectant parents to:

Understand and enhance the powerful prenatal attachment to the unborn child

Recognize unique patterns in dreams during the three stages of pregnancy and
become aware of how they relate to the emotional stages of becoming a parent

Understand the similarities and differences between men=s and women's
psychological conflicts and fulfillment

Generate mutual understanding and empathy for emotional reactions to pregnancy
and rekindle communication on issues that often create tension and confusion

Explore patterns in the erotic dream adventures and misadventures of expectant
parents, and to use these dreams to help resolve confusion and misunderstandings
that may arise in the couple=s sexual relationship

Recognize how identity changes and new roles linked to parenthood will cause the
parents to experience themselves in new and unaccustomed ways with family and
friends


DREAMS AND THE SECRET LIFE OF THE EXPECTANT FATHER

The strength of men's emotional experience of pregnancy has only recently come
to light. Beginning with the confirmation of pregnancy, powerful feelings and
dreams emerge. Some of these responses are similar to those of women. Others are
unique to men.
Awareness and discussion of these dreams can help transform what frequently is a
sense of alienation for expectant fathers. Dreams are a resource for helping men
to feel more secure about their role in pregnancy and to forge a closer bond
with both wife and child.

In 1981, I began the first systematic study of the patterns in expectant
fathers' dreams. Using a Two-Week Dream journal procedure (described in the book
Dream Wisdom), I compared expectant fathers' dreams with the dreams of a
matched group of married men who were not fathers and not expecting. Using
content analysis to compare the dreams of the two groups, I found striking
differences. From the earliest days of the pregnancy, the expectant fathers'
dreams were replete with vivid imagery of pregnancy, birth, and babies. Dreams
of rejection and exclusion were especially prominent throughout pregnancy, as
well as many graphic sexual and homosexual encounters and dreams of wild
celebratory birthday parties.

This finding challenges the notion that the expectant father faces no
significant emotional upheaval until later in the pregnancy or after the birth.
In reality, throughout the pregnancy a father's dreams are intimately related to
his role as a father, his changing relationship with his wife, and his newly
forming relationship with his child-to-be.

Left-out Dreams: One of the most common issues in expectant fathers' dreams is
the theme of feeling left out, misunderstood, deprived, or threatened in other
ways. These dreams reveal old wounds and sensitivities to rejection that are
reopened by fears about being displaced by the arrival of the baby.

Joel had increased his hours at work to try to make more money to pay for the
expenses of his child. When Joel's wife was five months pregnant, he had a
troubling dream that took place during a baseball game at Candlestick Park in
San Francisco.


Banished to the Back of the Stadium

In the middle of the game, I get up to get some beer. When I return, I can't
find my seat. I look around for a new one, but many of the women in the stands
are pregnant, and they are taking up two seats. I have to go to the back of the
stadium and stand. I am very annoyed.


Joel was upset and puzzled by this dream. He wasn't much of a
sports fan, and he generally avoided alcohol because his father had a drinking
problem. "The feeling I have in this dream is that of being left out. There is
no room for me with all these huge pregnant women." Joel was able to laugh at
the absurdity of a stadium full of pregnant women crowding him out. Even in the
generally male domain of beer and baseball, he felt like an outcast, rejected
and forced to the back of the stadium.


Exploring this dream helped Joel to understand that he was having a strong
emotional reaction to his wife=s pregnancy. Despite his positive conscious
reaction to becoming a father, he was feeling excluded by his wife, which is a
painful phase of pregnancy that many men suffer through. The message of the
dream was not about baseball; it was about Joel's sense of exclusion and his
need to find more ways to be involved in the pregnancy and planning for the
baby. After discussing this dream, Joel was able to express his left-out
feelings more directly with his wife. They decided that he would cut back on
overtime hours at work so that he could spend more time with her and be more
involved in preparations for the baby's arrival.



Celebration Dreams. A dramatic feature of expectant fathers' dreams throughout
pregnancy is the appearance of parties, celebrations, and what appear to be
initiation ceremonies related to pregnancy and childbirth. Over half the
expectant fathers in my study had a Party and Celebration dream, contrasted with
only one incidence of this kind of dream in my comparison group. These were
slightly more common earlier in the pregnancy.

An especially notable feature of Party and Celebration dreams is that many of
the feature birthday parties. These dreams also depicted elaborate food
preparation, eating and drinking, water imagery, and relationships with
masculine or macho figures. Some of these dreams were associated with the
completion of a creative project, such as a man who dreamed about a big party to
celebrate a writing project he had just completed.

The lack of adequate roles and rituals to confirm their inclusion and importance
causes expectant fathers to feel anxious about where they fit in. Parties are
associated with important turning points such as birthdays, graduations,
weddings, and accomplishments. They usually involve a sense of specialness or
sacredness apart from mundane routines. The preponderance of Party and
Celebration dreams reflects an unconscious awareness of the specialness and
importance of becoming a father. In their Party and Celebration dreams, most men
create unconscious rites of passage to express the excitement of becoming a
father.

HOW TO USE PREGNANCY DREAMS

Dreams exaggerate our anxieties about harm coming to a spouse, child, and
ourselves during pregnancy. Sharing and exploring anxiety dreams (such as
Deformed and Endangered Baby dreams, Forgetting the Baby dreams, and Losing
Valuables dreams) helps to make us more aware of our fears. When we can
articulate what we fear, we have a chance to understand how appropriate and
necessary our fears are. When we can share what troubles us with our spouse,
family, and friends, we have the chance to feel reassured, to understand and
resolve our changing emotional needs.

Awareness of dreams also can help men to convert their unconscious emotional
reactions and fears of being excluded into an energetic involvement with the
events of the pregnancy and the preparations for nurturing the baby. It is
especially important that men be encouraged to participate in prenatal classes,
obstetric visits, genetic counseling and amniocentesis, shopping for the baby's
needs, and baby showers and other celebratory events.

An invisible drama unfolds in the dreams of expectant parents. When we make this
drama visible, by remembering and sharing dreams together, we can nurture the
marital relationship and prepare for our new role as parents.

Just as proper nutrition and medical care will enhance the physical growth of
the fetus, extra communication and emotional support enhance the parents'
psychological readiness. Using our dreams to explore hidden conflicts, feelings,
anxieties, and joys can be of tremendous value to couples as they prepare to
make the crucial adjustment to parenthood.


Alan Siegel, Ph.D., is an adult and child psychologist and a pioneer in dream
work with 30 years of teaching and publishing on dream-related topics.

He is a former president of the international Association for the Study of
Dreams and Editor-Emeritus of their magazine, Dream Time. His commentaries on
post-9-11 nightmares, children's dreams, and dreams interpretation have been
featured on NBC's Today Show as well as CNN News, PBS, NPR, the Discovery
Channel's The Power of Dreams series, and NBC's prime time special, The Secret
World of Dreams He was the Creative Consultant for the award-winning HBO video,
Goodnight Moon and Other Sleepy Time Tales. His research and teachings on dreams
have been featured in dozens of publications as diverse as Readers Digest, USA
Today, The Los Angeles Times, Bottom Line Personal, McCall's, Self, Redbook,
Good Housekeeping, Working Woman, Parenting, Family Circle, Glamour,
Mademoiselle, and Johns Hopkins Magazine.

You can read more about Alan Siegel, Ph.D. and find out more about the book
Dream Wisdom at http://www.dreamwisdom.info







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Dream: A Cosmic Novice

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DATE : 25 jan 08:46


=( last night was friday. i postponed my usual binge celebration. i havebeen
doing this for a couple weeks now for no particular reason. i have been a
little depressed lately, but i do not think there is any causal connection
between my rituals and this sentiment. several people i know have complained of
mild depression too, so it may be just something in the stars rather than our
souls. i spent much of the afternoon submitting my income tax through my
computer then did some course preparations during the evening while watching
video with mother. it has been cold enough here that my hot water pipes were
slightly frozen yesterday morning, so i let them drip all night as i went to
sleep around 02:00 without much trouble. )=


"do you want to play a game of cosmic wimpout?" i ask the two students with
me. abegail jane smiles and immediately shakes her head yes. she begins to
search through her handbag for her favorite marker. the other student, jim, is
a japanese american graduate student. he pauses for a moment with a look of
consternation. i have not played a game of cosmic wimpout with anyone in
several months so the opportunity of my offer is something he obviously will not
want to pass up, but he perceives some other obligation in conflict with a
twenty minute game of three people. he thinks for a bit with his timing, then
assents to the game. i note his discomfort and struggle even before the game
has begun and wonder how it will affect his play.

we are in a cafeteria room of a school somewhere. there are long bench seat
tables with maybe fifteen other people in the room, eating brown bag lunches or
a hot meal from a serving line in the next larger room for the general student
population. this is apparently a staff lunch room. i have brought my students,
abby and jim, in as my guests.

i shuffle around in my shoulder bag to find my wimpout felt and dice. the felt
is easy to find, so i unroll it on the table area between our lunch trays.
abegail in on my left while jim is on the end of the table to my right.

it is a little harder to sort out the five cosmic dice. there are a couple
handfuls of small pieces in the bottom of my bag. i wonder why i do not have
the usual leather travel bag just for cosmic dice, but they seem to be mixed in
with the loose pieces. i sort out a couple regular cubic dice, some iridescent
green polygon dice for some role playing game, and some chess men. gradually i
find the five cosmic dice. they are large cold clear crystal cubes, a little
irregular and sharp on the edges like they were grown rather than carved. when
i get the set of all five in my fist, my hand shines out with a white glow and
its tissue becomes transparent so we can see my bones inside. this effect is
painless and vanishes as soon as i toss the five dice onto the playing felt.

i take off my unicorn ring for my marker and place it on the zero line of the
felt next to abby's earring. jim is not ready to play yet. he has gone over in
the corner of the room with his cell phone while he calls someone and mutters
his apologies. abegail and i smile at each other as we patiently wait for him
to conclude his business. cosmic wimpout is a game that fosters patience and
civility among its skilled players. we have enjoyed the occasional game and
each other for years now.

jim finally concludes his phone contact and comes back to the table. he fishes a
nickel out of his pocket and puts it on the zero line, ready to begin. we each
take up one cosmic die and roll it on the felt to determine first player.
abegail wins the first toss. i notice our hands did not glow transparent when
rolling a single die, but her hand does shine through when she takes up all
five.


"whose turn is it to eat?" i ask to the room in general.

"mine." speaks up bill griffin over in the far corner of the lunch room. he
takes a bite of tray meal and chews with a grumpy growling noise. after bill is
chewing whatever breaded meat he has taken, there is a pause.

"who is after bill?" i ask.

"oh, i am." paul frederick is in the other corner of the room at the far end of
the table we are sitting at. he takes his bite of food, then the next person
takes a bite, and so on down the line to abegail. i wonder why bill and paul
are sitting as far apart as the room will let them. usually they are almost
joined at the hip.

abegail takes a bite of her breaded meat square, and tosses the cosmic dice onto
the felt. two tens and a five. she rerolls the two other nonscoring dice to
get a ten. a perfect thirty five for her first turn. she moves her earring off
the zero to the 35 line. i noticed how delicate are her bones compared to mine
when her hand was clear.

i take a bite off my tray and take up the dice. the usual first rule is thirty
five or better to start, but i am facing forty or better since abby is occupying
the 35 line. my hand flashes transparent as i roll a train wreck: all five
dice thrown and nothing scores. i note that my karma is strong, whether it is
good remains to be seen.

jim takes a bite of his sandwich and takes up the dice. he throws two fives and
a ten on the first roll, then wimps out rolling the other two dice.


the order of eating passes on to the next table. a few people also growl like
bill did when taking their bites. the growling seems to indicate some
unhappiness with the waiting. if we weren't playing our game between bites,
everyone else could sequence their bites almost simultaneously after each other.
but our game sets a tempo between bites that the others are expected to pace
themselves. we wait for the sequence of bites to come around again.

"why do we have to eat like this, one bite at a time?" asks jim in obvious
irritation.

"you are impatient with the order of society." i reply. "how long have you
been playing wimpout?"

"about a year and a half."

"a year and a half, and you still do not understand the reason we play this
game." i tell him.

"it took me three games to get most of the rules." jim shakes his head.
"but i still have trouble knowing how to win."


i look at him with compassion. "a win is 500 exactly-- either by total count or
in any one roll." i tell him this, knowing that he knows this rule already.
his question is not so much 'how to win' but 'when to win' which is most often a
matter of intentional choice and some chance rather than game mechanics.
skilled wimpout players play with each other as much as the game. it is one of
hardest things for novices to learn.

"the rules of this game are incomplete." he complains.


"it is life and the universe that are incomplete." i explain to him. "the
cosmic rules of wimpout are such that every game played so far has come to a
reasonable completion even though many of the rules are mathematically
infinite." i know this probably will not help him but i say it again anyway.
some people never seem to get beyond the novice stage no matter how long they
try.


=( i wake at 08:30. abegail jane was a woman that i loved and lost. it was
good to see her in friendly circumstances again. bill griffin and paul
frederick were colleague faculty when i worked in educational research here in
pensacola. the japanese student, jim, is unknown to me in waking life. cosmic
wimpout is a real game, for many years my favorite since its rule structure is
so elegant that even frequent players may not be skilled in the karma of play.
it was searchable on the internet the last time i checked. the five dice,
however, do not cause your hand to become transparent; and the sequenced eating
in the lunchroom is not part of the game. )=

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Message: 600-001
Subject: Back To School

dream_title: Back To School
dream_date: 9 December 2002
dreamer_name: Sweet Sapphire

dream_text: My dream is really hazy but certain areas stand out. I do remember
being back in school (which i left 2 years ago) and dancing in front of a lot of
people, also there was one of my ex-boyfriends there who i havent seen for about
a year. I also remember being stripped down to my underwear but i was fine
about it and i was laughing and joking!!? The part that stands out to me is in
my dream i saw my self crying in the arms of my ex-boyfriend but he left so i
went to comfort myself. I find this really strange and I am confused about what
this means! I would really love to know.

dream_comments: I really want to know what that part about me comforting myself
means, does it mean i feel alone or are dreams contradictory?

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Message: 600-002
Subject: the stranger

dream_title: the stranger
dreamer_name: anonymous

dream_text: I was walking down the street when I noticed that a man was
following me. I didn't recognize him. I couldn't see his face but he was wearing
all black. He was following me until I ended up at my grandmal house. I was at
the front porch when that man that was following me grabbed me and tried rapping
me but I put on a struggle. Then I woke up.

dream_comments: What does my dream mean?

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Message: 600-003
Subject: the meat world

dream_title: the meat world
dream_date: September 9, 2001
dreamer_name: j0equ1nn

dream_text: I'm in an unfamiliar office, talking to my psychiatrist about
something. I'm holding a ticket. "Runnin' down a dream" by Tom Petty is
playing on a radio. I start bending the ticket in my hand back and forth. As I
do this, I notice that it's changing the way the song sounds. I find this
really freaky. Once the psychiatrists sees I have noticed the connection, she
stops talking and stares at me. I stare back at her and her face changes
colors, then melts. Then everything melts. There is an overpowering, shivering
nightmare feeling that borders somehow on euphoria.

I'm in my room lying on my bed. I can't see anything except black with little
gray slivers in it, but I can somehow feel where everything is. The phone
rings. I hear my mom answer it and come to my door. I think to myself "I
wonder if she'll disturb me even though I'm in the meat world." She opens the
door and that same feeling starts. It keeps intensifying through the rest of
the dream. She throws the phone on my bed. I say "hello." It's my friend Kat.
She sounds very cheerful and says something nonsensical that I don't remember.

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Message: 601-001
Subject: Two cat dreams on the same night.

Hi all,

About a week ago I had two dreams about my cats on the same night. I'm not
sure why. The first one was very disturbing, the second one was funny...

In the first dream, Jemima, the youngest and most timid of all my pet cats, is
climbing out of a window on the top floor of my house. Only the top part of
the window is open, so she has to jump and scramble up the glass to reach it.
She makes it to the open part, pauses balanced there, then jumps out.

I've been watching her, thinking she's just been playing around, but this...
this is serious. I run over to the window. Calm down, cats always land on
their feet, don't they? No. Her body's lying there on the path below. The
way it's twisted, she must be dead. Jemima's killed herself, suicide, but why?
Why? And why didn't I stop her?

After waking up in a panic, I settled down fell asleep again and had a much
nicer dream, about Oi-Kit-Kat who used to belong to my brother.
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The dice are already in the glass, so I balance it on the edge of the table
near where Oi is standing. He bends down and pushes the glass with his head.
It falls off, and the dice roll out. I look at the numbers, and move Oi's
counter for him on the Monopoly board.

By now Oi is lying on the floor beside the board. I can tell from his body
language and the way he mews at me that he's saying "Don't I get another go?"
I look back at the dice. He's right, there's a double. Well, sort of. There
are now four dice instead of two, and two of them have been deliberately glued
together so they always show the same number. Still, it *is* a double and he
is technically entitled to another go.

I put the dice back in the glass, which has changed into an old jam jar, give
it a quick shake for luck, and balance it on the table edge again. While Oi
pushes it, his sister Shelly wanders into the room. She gives a snort of
loving disdain. She's a much smarter cat than Oi and considers games like
Monopoly to be a bit silly. Besides, she's just jealous that Oi's beating me
at it.

It's not my fault he's winning. Everything keeps changing. Not just the dice
but the pieces too. They keep changing shape and colour so I can't remember
which is which. And there's the board. Look at that Community Chest square.
It's just turned into an entire snakes-and-ladders grid. You have to win that
before you can move on to the next square in the main game!

I'd better look in the rules to see what they say about this. Except the rules
turn into satirist Ian Hislop's review of the computer game MegaHal. I just
start to read it, and then I wake up...

Any ideas what it all means? I don't even like Monopoly in real life...

Pi.

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Message: 602-001
Subject: unicorns

Hi,

My name is Johnnie, and I'm looking for someone to help me understand a dream I
had. I dreamed I was walking along a dirt road with someone who I do not
remember. As we were walking along this road, suddenly out of the sky came this
loud rumbling noise, a noise that said without a doubt that it's time to get on
your knee's and ask for forgiveness for everything you've done or thought about
doing. We immediately got on our knees and started praying. About this time,
out of the sky came three pure white unicorns. The each came in a downward
flight one after the other, and return to the sky as fast as they appeared.
Afterward I woke up so scared I couldn't sleep the rest of the night. I've
asked many people and no one seems to know or have heard anything similar. Can
you help me.....?

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Message: 602-002
Subject: (unknown)

Hello,Group. My name is Elaine. I have dreams every night. I have all kinds of
dreams: frightful dreams (murder, hunted by horrible aninmals), beautiful
dreams(spring, flowers, flying and golden stars all over the sky) and dreams
with sexual nature. I'd like to share with you my thoughts about dreams.

1. Interpret your dreams physically not just mentally.

As dreams are the activities of the brain, both physical and mental stimutli can
affect the brain's dream creation activities. Brain is connected to the nerves
of your whole body, when you don't feel well, for instance you have stomachache,
the pain will be transmitted to your brain and your brain will transform the
pain into some bad images, fragments and things you saw before, then you have
bad dreams. Your brain processes the images-disassemble and reconstruct, so you
might see something very weird that you've never seen before in your dreams.

2. Do dreams augur?

Yes, but only sometimes. Actually very rarely. ( to be continued )

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Message: 602-003
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Message: 603-001
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Message: 603-002
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Message: 604-001
Subject: Re: unicorns

Your dream was fascinating.... This is truly a dream of changes to happen in
your life... You've been blessed with 'angel dust' That is what I call
it... So many wonderful changes are about to happen in your life... all for the
good.. Just be sure to share some of this with people that are in need... It
will come back to you over and over again... This dream tells of good fortune
and warns you to be kind and share your good luck with those less fortunate...
123 I saw those numbers while reading your dream...............

My analogy is more than unconventional to most, but it is usually right on
target............................. I am hoping I am right with this one....
:-)
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Message: 605-001
Subject: Running in another Dimension

I'm standing in a yard with a friendly crowd of people, But I am
standing away from the group. A phsychic walks up and she is holding a flyer.
She is facing the crowd and has her back to me. Even though I can not read the
words, I know what it says: "New York Phsychic Love Fair". She holds the
paper up and ask, "Who wants to go?" The crowd is enthusiastic and everyone
holds their hands in the air. She leads them away and leaves me standing
alone. She leads them to a rail road track crossing a long, narrow, paved
road. The track runs on a small hill and has crossing guards. She stops on
this side of the tracks. She holds the flyer above her head and it turns into
a huge calender-- bill board size on the other side of the tracks. She holds
up a pointer and says, "These are the dates." She points to the 3rd and 4th of
the month. I'm not sure of the month. The calender becomes clear like glass.
The cross the tracks as she leads the group through it and up the road. I'm
still standing in the yard watching and I have a strong urge to follow. I
begin to run and I cross the tracks. But the Window is receeding like a tide.
I run faster to catch it and finally enter. Inside I hear my own heartbeat,
but it's not coming from inside me but all around me. I can also feel my heart
vibrate, resonating through my body. I keep running to catch the others and I
hear a voice call from behind me. "Hey wait for me, I want to go too." A
young man runs up next to me and he is wearing blue jeans, sneakers and a gray
sweat jacket. But he has a dark gray shroud over his face. And I'm thinking
how can this guy see where he is going. We stop an sitting in a vacant field
is an abandoned house. The house sitting on piers, has a porch that goes
across the entire front of the house. The house was white at one time but had
faded and the wood silvered through the years. The field was very well kept but
did not have any other vegatation on it besides grass. The house was sitting
very close to the road. The man looked at me and asked, "How long do you
think we can stay here?" I looked at him and I noticed that the shroud had
three bars of silver horizontal and vertical much like a tic tac toe pattern.
The bars weren't solid but small square segments. As I was looking at him I
was thinking that I really didn't want to leave. Suddenly I was physically
lifted up, pulled back through gray emptiness and back into my body. I woke
up. This happened during meditation. I just wanted to share this and welcome
all your comments.

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Message: 606-001
Subject: Re: Running in another Dimension

spend time away from the yard preferably away to the right for there's no reason
to be friendly till your next dream
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Message: 606-002
Subject: Re: Running in another Dimension

Thanks, but why do you say that??? I got the impression that I was suppose to
follow my heart and listen to it...feel it. What do you think???? Charlie
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Message: 606-003
Subject: Ex Boyfriend

The past two nights I have had dreams with my ex boyfriend in them, he is
desperatly trying to win me over. Is this because he broke my heart?

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Message: 606-004
Subject: Re: Ex Boyfriend

The little bit that I've heard, I would have to say yes. It's wishful
thinking... a vent dream. I don't know how close you too were, but I do know
that when souls meet they have a connection. And I can understand a broken
heart. I beleive that most of us that have been in very serious relationships
that ended have had our hearts broken. Sometimes dreams act as a relief valve
for something that is bothering us. But know this... from everything bad that
happens something good in equal measure comes back. One of the laws of the
universe.
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Message: 606-005
Subject: I too dreamt about my ex

HI there, I am fairly new to this board and have been having really weird
dreams. Maybe someone can help me out. I noticed someone posted about dreaming
of an ex and last night i had one hell of a weird dream which included my ex and
then some. In reality we dated for about 5 months, 5 years ago and had a good
time together, the breakup ended on an ok note and I have seen him once in a
while on the street since then and we are both curteous to make small talk. This
entire year he has been in my dreams where I can smell him very strongly and all
the dreams have been of us being together. Unfortunatly I last saw him at a
mutual friends funeral but he didn't see me so we didn't speak. ! Last night I
dreamt that he and I were in what seemed like a huge department store shopping
for XMAS presents, specifically for my sister and his nephew and we were being
all lovey dovey. We spent quite a bit of time shopping and then we left the
store and the dream changed and i was talking to a friend of mine in front of my
house who in reality i haven't seen in 2 yrs and who also happens to be married
with a child but in the dream he was gay and was admitting to liking a male
friend of mine! Does anyone know what the hell this means. Since i know that our
dreams are part of our conscious thoughts I would like to say that I haven't
thought about these two people (my ex and my friend) in quite a while so who
knows what they mean and what there signifigance are.

Thanks so much

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Message: 607-001
Subject: Invisible woman dream

This is a dream I had last weekend. There are bits of it I can't
remember clearly, almost as if I'm not letting myself remember...

There's a large window on one side of the corridor. It looks out onto a small
square or courtyard, bounded on all sides by the modern college buildings.
It's night outside but the corridor is brightly lit. I've arrived at the
building, and I'm walking along a corridor to the seminar room. But I'm *not*
myself.

Instead of being the ugly, androgynous man that I am in real life, I'm a
glamorous woman. And I'm also invisible. My clothes, however, do remain
visible. I can see them reflected in the window, wrapped around the space
where I would have been. A figure-hugging, black dress with a large, white
collar curving down to become the lapels of the plunging neckline. It's
sleeveless, but I'm wearing long, white gloves. The whole outfit is very
elegant in a late-fifties or early-sixties haute couture sort of way.

As I enter the seminar, I'm glad I'm this beautiful, invisible woman instead of
myself. This time the other people there won't hate me. I sit down at the
long, wooden table and the meeting begins.

(Unfortunately I can't remember anything about the meeting or seminar or
whatever it was. Maybe my dream just went fast-forward through this bit, but
I've a feeling it did happen and they were all discussing unpleasant things
about my real self, never guessing that I was the mysterious woman in the room
with them.)

We take a break, and I wander out into the corridor. The seminar's chairwoman
comes up to me and begins a conversation, still not knowing who I really am...
until I say something that gives my identity away. She immediately becomes
angry with me because I've deceived her, deceived everyone there, pretending to
be someone I'm not.

After she's gone, leaving me standing in the open doorway leading out to the
courtyard, something strange happens. The invisible woman steps out of me,
leaving me as a naked *visible* man. She knows it's me they're really angry
with, not her. She's still popular, even if I'm not.

I try to go back to the meeting anyway, hoping that if I bluff enough maybe
they won't notice I'm not the invisible woman any more. But as soon as I enter
the room, I know it hasn't worked. The chairwoman has told everyone about me,
and now they're all staring at me. They know who I am. They hate me.

I wake up. Lying in bed I feel shaken and disturbed by the ending of the
dream. I know it's true how much everyone hates me.


Notes:

* The building seems to be a cross between two colleges were I attend
evening classes. The corridor comes from one building and the seminar
room from the other.
* This was my fourth dream about being an invisible woman. The three in the
past have all been very positive and enjoyable. This one was very depressing
because of all the emotional baggage and low self-esteem which I'd brought into
it from real life.

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Message: 607-002
Subject: Electrical appliances and fresh fried penis

Yesterday afternoon I felt tired, and I dozed off around 6pm with a
little nap on the sofa. I had two dreams there, but I only remember one of
them. Warning: this is a bit gross, so if your squeamish or easily
disgusted, you might not want to read it...

My mother can't understand the remote control for the new television. That's
not surprising, she had enough trouble with the old one. But this new one is
so complicated that even I'm having trouble using it. I should be able to get
picture-in-picture by pressing two or three *very* tiny buttons, each only a
couple of millimetres across. But instead it just switches the TV to the
Discovery: Garage Music channel and locks it there until I turn reset it in
frustration.

At least the new, light fitting works better. It's a large, diamond-shaped
sandwich of bare metal sheets with the lightbulb poking out from one end. As
it hangs from the ceiling it looks very hi-tech in a 1980s-retro style. And of
course, I'll be able to user the remote control on it too, to turn the light on
and off from my bed.

This is only a small one-or-two room apartment with a roof garden. I go out to
the garden to inspect the new burglar alarm sensors mounted on the green patio
doors. They look in order so I come back indoors to get breakfast. My mother
and her boyfriend are visiting, and she is frying him three sausages. One of
them looks as if it might have been his penis. By a strange coincidence, I'm
also going to fry my penis for breakfast.

I'd already plucked it off ready to cook. It came off cleanly, with no blood
or pain. The end where it had been attached is just plain, featureless, pink
scar tissue. I know without looking that the corresponding area of my groin is
identical scar tissue. My penis is now lying on the work surface beside the
cooker. I pick it up and put it in a second frying pan with pieces of potato.
I fry them on the cooker next to my mother's sausages.
Soon the penis is done, a lovely crisp dark colour on the outside, yet I know
it will be tender and juicy inside. I put it on a plate, and walk over to the
table. It's only now that my mother asks me "You're not going to eat that are
you?" She's right. There's nothing strange about removing my own penis and
cooking it, but to actually *eat* it... That's going too far. I stare at it
wondering what to do.

Then the phone rang and woke me up...
Notes:

* Although I live in a large house in real life, my dream home was a
tiny apartment. It was a mixture of various rooms in my real house. The roof
garden was total imagination.
* The strangest thing about the dream was that it *wasn't* my real
penis. The one in the dream was uncircumcised and a different shape: rounder
and fatter. I don't understand that at all.

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Message: 608-001
Subject: Re: Invisible woman dream

you start this dream description late as if there is something about the
corridor you are not telling us. so i would say spend some time to the right of
the corridor where you can be peacefully less like it
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Message: 609-001
Subject: Re: Invisible woman dream

On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Heratheta@... said
> you start this dream description late as if there is something about
> the
> corridor you are not telling us.

No, I just had to start the description there because I don't remember the
beginning of the dream. Or maybe it was one of those that started halfway
through...
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Message: 611-001
Subject: motorycle

dreamer_name: princess

dream_text: well my friend her dad has a motorycle my freind name is catherine
and her dad is bear. ok well my dream is i wasat school and i was in second hour
and i was by the door wating for the bell to ring so i could go to my next class
accross the hall. well someone comes in and i get a note saying catherine and
bear are in the hosptial cuz they recked on the motorcycle.and i did not read it
till i got to the middle of the hallway and i like allmost faint and this boy i
like bobby cought me so i would not fall cuz i was so shocked.

dream_comments: this was a few days after ctherines other borther died on a
motorcylce.

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Message: 611-002
Subject: Chase

dream_date: 12/11/02
dreamer_name: angel

dream_text: I was alone on this hill type mountain thing and all of a sudden
poeple came run after me and I could not get away and if they caught me they
would rape me and then they would throw me off the hill type moutain then I
would wake up......

dream_comments: when i fell it felt like i was really falling

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Message: 611-003
Subject: black blob

dream_title: black blob
dream_date: recurring
dreamer_name: anonymous

dream_text: a black blob that just sits there and randomly moves closer

dream_comments: i want to know what it means

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Message: 611-004
Subject: Making choices in life

dream_title: Making choices in life
dreamer_name: anonymous

dream_text: I am with my current partner and we seem to have limited contact
with our respective wider families. We have no money/wealth but seem happy in
each other's company.

Holding hands, we try to make contact with my partner's father but although we
can see him, he does not seem able to see us. And we watch him happily going
about his daily routine.

Then we have a visit from a spirit who appears from the sewers. She sees our
predicament and offers us two choices.

a) we can stay in our current position, close to each other but apart from our
families.

b) or we can be transported to a new world where we are comfortable, rich and
viewed as wise and respected. But we will be hideously ugly.

We choose the second option. We arrive at the destination but it is not what we
expected. The place is crowded with people and we have little space. We feel
cheated and are so ugly that we no longer find each other attractive. And so
the dream ends.

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Message: 611-005
Subject: The Murder

dream_title: The Murder
dream_date: 12/11/02
dreamer_name: Charli

dream_text: My 3 friends and I had this dream, But we each had a part of it and
where one stopped the other one began. so here's the dream.
Jen: Her boyfriend and her were in church and he had his arm around her then he
took off running outside and so did two other members of the church. The members
of the church pounded him to the ground and beat him. end of 1.
Charli: I'm in front of church trying to read speach for the boyfriend cuz jen
couldn't come, and the word were all in blocks and different shapes, so I wisper
to the pastor that I can't read it and he tells me to just make up something, so
I did and the funerals over and were all walking out crying. end of 2.
Catie: We're walking out of the church crying and we get in her mom's van and
she goes to say something. end of 3.
Tori: everyone's still crying Catie yells why does this alway have to happen,
and she starts crying too. end of 4.

dream_comments: So what does this dream mean? We all woke up feeling like it was
real, and all of us felt like we had been crying, ( I was crying when I woke up)
Please help!!!!!

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Message: 611-006
Subject: a devil appeared at my bedside wearing a silver crownand had ears that
looked like cat ears

dream_title: a devil appeared at my bedside wearing a silver crownand had ears
that looked like cat ears
dream_date: 12/8/2002
dreamer_name: anonymous

dream_text: i dreamed of the devil beside my bed wearing a crown of silver and
having ears like a cat

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Message: 611-007
Subject: Little green men

dream_title: Little green men
dream_date: 1955
dreamer_name: solarangel

dream_text: When I was young I used to have this recurring dream and I have had
a couple of similar dreams relatively currently.
In my dream I realized there was no one left on the earth that I was aware of
but me. Then I saw some little frog like creatures. They talked to me and told
me they could not take me with them even though I wanted them to. I did not
want to be left alone. But in my dream they always flew off without me.

Recently I had a similar dream but I traveled with the creatures.
Then suddenly I was back on earth again.

Another type of recurring dream I have is a chase dream. In my dream there is
always someone or something chasing me.

dream_comments: I see the chase dream as being my problems and trying to run
from them though I have not really figured out what the other one signifies.

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Message: 612-001
Subject: goats and horses

dream_title: goats and horses
dream_date: about a year ago
dreamer_name: weenerfoetus

dream_text: The dream was quite long- but I can only remember this part of it...
I'm sitting in a train looking out of the window. I see a typical
kiddie-drawing house (4 windows, triangular roof, rectangulr door,
happy-looking, etc). It has a white picket fence around it, and behind it are
lots of very tall fir trees. Taller than the house, in fact. I can't remember
what the sky looked like- it's possible I couldn't see it. The house was on a
hill. On the left hand side of it, inside the fence, horses are giving birth.
They are strapped down on their fronts on tables with their legs splayed. Men
take their young as they give birth and put them in a neat little row behind the
horses. They all look really cute and perfect. Someone is making little notes
about them. On the right hand side of the house, also inside the fence, goats
are giving birth. No one is helping them- they give birth on their own. Some
of them stick their rear ends out through the fence as they give birth so that,
as their young are born, they fall down the hill and land on a concrete road.
Others that have already given birth pick up their young in their mouths and
drop them out through the fence. Most of the baby goats die when they hit the
concrete but some survive and run away down the road.

dream_comments: I have no idea what it means, but I guess I should give you some
basic details about myself... I am a goth... I am bisexual. I am terrified of
love and commitment, and have decided that I will have an abortion if I ever
become pregnant. I was also sexually abused as a child. I'm a self-harmer, but
I don't take any drugs except the occassional drink. Im currently at university
studying astrophysics. I'd like to know what my dream means, since it's stuck
in my mind and I'm guessing that means it must have some significance.

comments:
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Message: 612-002
Subject: You have a green SKINK on your back

dream_title: You have a green SKINK on your back
dream_date: Dec 12' 02
dreamer_name: Aikido Student

dream_text: I heard that someone(girl) spoke softly beside my ears that "you
have a green skink on your back, you have a green skink on your back..." until I
felt it and then I saw it in my dream it's a Green one, it didn't move just stay
be cool. I scare, so I was trying to wake up or tried to take it out by softly
-_-" and I looked to the clock it was about 5am something. So I was trying to
close my eyes to sleep.

dream_comments: - Skink, it's look like chameleon but in my dream she was called
Skink.- and Skink is never have green one before.

comments:
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Message: 615-001
Subject: The stripped down computer lab

(Is this the correct place to send a dream?)

Tom and Mike (actual people in my life) are getting ready to redo the computer
lab at the local college. They are responsible for upgrading and maintaining the
computers (in real life). I come in to use the computer lab and the whole room
is stripped of everything; not only the computers, but also the furniture,
carpeting, fixtures, etc. etc. The room was stripped down to bare concrete with
squiggles on the wall left by the tools used for smoothing down concrete.
Outside the room are piles of carpeting, tools, wires, construction mess, broken
furniture (it looks like a construction site). People are coming in to use the
computer lab and I tell each one..."This lab is not open today".

Any comments? Thanks! Linda

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