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Volume #10 Issue #8
August 2003
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C O N T E N T S
++ Editor's Notes
++ The Global Dreaming News
Events - Updates - Reviews - More
From Peggy Coats - www.DreamTree.com
++ Cover Artist's Statement
Laura N. Atkinson
++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
Lucid Dreaming For Precognitive Information
with Robert Waggoner and Survey Results
on Lucid Dream Interests
By Lucy Gillis
++ Article: Gestalt Dialogue For a Flying Dream
Linda Lane Magallón
++ Column: A View from the Bridge
Invitation from the World Dreams Peace Bridge
By Jean Campbell & Explora
++ Newsletter: The Waves: 04. Journey to Mt. Shasta
Spectral Moon (May 30 to June 26, 2003)
By Nick Cumbo
++ Article: Archetypal Psychology and Dreamwork
Richard Catlett Wilkerson
D R E A M S S E C T I O N : Volume #670 - # 675
With Editors Elizabeth Westlake and Harry Bosma
D E A D L I N E :
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Editor's Notes
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Welcome to the August 2003 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to dreams
and dreaming online.
If you are new to dreams and dreaming, please join us on
dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the resources you
need. To join send an e to
dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
or if you are interested in sharing dreams for world peace, please join the
World Dreams Peace Bridge
http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org
Many of us are still in recovery from the Dream conference in Berkeley, but
I will try to give some sense of the events as I can. This conference
marked and celebrated the 50th Anniversary of R.E.M. and the 20th
Anniversary of the Association for the Study of Dreams. Of more than some
historical importance, William Dement of Sleep and Dream research fame was
there, as
well as nearly 300 dreamworkers, scientist, clinicians, anthropologists and
researchers attended. There were usually four to six events going at any
one time, plus a bookstore and plenty of space to talk and discuss dreams.
I noticed two distinct themes that were different than usual. The first
was the switch of emphasis of Jungian to Post-Jungian lectures. Usually
there are only a couple of Post-Jungian lectures, but they seemed to
dominate the conference this year. Since a lot of people are not clear
about the differences between Jungian and the Archetypal schools of
psychology, I have included an article on this.
The other major theme was a kind of post 9-11 concern about how dreams
and attention to dreams and dreamwork can offer the culture a remedy to the
manic, fast paced and reality torn fabric of society. Some lecturers set
aside their official presentations and addressed this issue directly with
the audience, and everywhere the topic came up over and over. Next issue I
talk more about dreams and simulation society. If you have articles and
comments on this topic, send them in.
Anyway, Electric Dreams has been keeping up with most of the changes in
dreams and dreamwork presented at the conference, and we will continue to
offer articles keeping you up to date throughout the year.
If missed the conference this year, or if you just didn't get enough,
there is an online conference planned for late September. Watch the ASD
website for details www.ASDreams.org
Lucy Gillis offers Electric Dreams a selection each month from her _Lucid
Dream Exchange_. This issue there are two selections. The first is a
summary of the survey on what keeps lucid dreamers interested in lucid
dreaming. The section selection is from Robert Waggoner, on Lucid Dreaming
for Precognitive Information where he explores the more and less active
aspects of these types of dreams.
Linda Magallón writes about her use of Gestalt Dialogue techniques for
self inquiry when dream flying. By personalizing the parts of oneself and
talking with these parts, we allow our fragmented and often missed souls a
chance for expression and play. Be sure to read "Gestalt Dialogue For a
Flying Dream."
Jean Campbell and Explora bring you up to date on al the projects of
the international dreaming and outreach group World Dreams Peace Bridge
(WDPB). If you have been wondering how to use your dreams for world peace,
this group is not to be missed. Be sure to stop by the new area, the
Reservoir
http://tinyurl.com/i784
Nick Cumbo newsletter and column reports on the explorations of the Sea
Life community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims to bring
together a circle of dreamers from around the globe, collaborating in
dreaming adventures, and 'dreaming with and for the earth itself.' This
month, The Waves 04 travels to Mt. Shasta and presents magical and mutual
dreaming tours, including an underground cave system.
Whale songs, gardens with beds, the secrets of DNA. What can this be
besides the Electric Dreams section on DREAMS! The Dream Section is
beautifully edited by Elizabeth Westlake [with the help of Harry Bosma's
editor program].
If you have dreams you want published, don't send them to Elizabeth
directly, but rather enter them in the form at
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple
Or you can put them in the dream flow directly by subscribing
to:
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of the many resources:
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If you have more stories about the ASD conference, send them to me before
the Aug 13th deadline.
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-Richard Wilkerson
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If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats,
web@.... Visit Global Dreaming News online at
http://www.dreamtree.com/
This Month's Features:
NEWS
-- Dream Tending Seminar and Extended Training
-- Berkeley Dream Group
-- Symposium on Dream Science
-- The Royal Road Dream Seminars for Professionals
-- Algonquin Park DreamQuest Adventure
-- Rocky Mountain Dream Journal
-- Dreamwork with Animal Spirits
-- On the Wings of Spirit
-- PSI Dreaming Conference 2003
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RESEARCH & REQUESTS
-- Shamanic Dreaming
-- Algonquin Park DreamQuest Adventure
-- Rocky Mountain Dream Journal
-- On The Wings of Spirit; Shamanism, Intuition and Dreams.
WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES
-- Dream GriGri comics
-- Dreams and reoccurrence of feelings
DREAM CALENDAR
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>>>> Dream Tending Seminar and Extended Training
Dream Tending Seminar: Befriending the archetypal Imagination
with Dr. Stephen Aizenstat, August 22-24, 2003. Taking place at La Casa de
Maria Ladera Center, a retreat campus in the Santa Barbara foothills
overlooking the Pacific Ocean.
DreamTending Six-Month Professional Training,Jan-Jun 2004
Dr. Aizenstat will again offer professional traincing in DreamTending in
2004. The course combines content-oriented instruction in dream theory,
dream methodology, and clinical applications. It features experiential work
and practice of clinical skills. Much of the learning, however, takes place
in a third realm: a dimension of dream life that is sensitive to aesthetic
perceiving, poetic imagining, and the art of not_knowing. this small-group
seminar series consists of six, three-day weekend sessions (one each month,
January through June, 2004). This training program is for clinicians and
lay persons who have experience in dreamwork, particularly those who have
participated in Dr. Aizenstat's introductory DreamTending Workshops. for a
detailed description of the curriculum, please request a DreamTending 2004
brochure.
Pacifica Graduate Institute
Public Programs
249 Lambert Road, Carpinteria, CA 93013
TEL: 805/969-5796
Email public
programs@...
www.pacifica.com
>>> Berkeley Dream Group led by David Jenkins, Ph.D.
David's seminars were a big hit at the 2003 International conference for
the Association for the Study of Dreams. But if you missed him there, you
can still catch his work in downtown Berkeley, CA near BART. Cost: First
class if free. Email
davidj@... or call 510-644-2369
www.practicaldreamwork.com
>>>> Symposium on Dream Science
The Science of Dreams and the Dream of Science -- a symposium of the
International Veinnese Academy of Holistic Medicine and the Institute of
Consciousness and Dream Research, Vienna
October 23-26, 2003. Including Gieslher Guttmann, William Dement, Harry
Fiss, Brigitte Holzinger, Stephen LaBerge, Allan Hobson, Gerard Klosch,
Roseanne Armitage, Eric Nofzinger, Lia Hobson and many more. www.REM50.at
For more information, contact Dr. Brigitte Holzinger, Institut fur
Bewubstseins und Traumforschung, Canongasse 13, A- 1180 Wien,
brigitte.holzinger@...
>>> The Royal Road Dream Seminars for Professionals
At Fox Commons in Berkeley, CA
September: Mill Mellick
The Art of Dreaming
October-November (Wednesdays 12-2) Barbar McSwain
The Use of Dreams in Therapy and Analysis
December John Beebe
Nightmares, Night Terrors and "Bad Dreams"
Registration
510-845-1767
>>>Rocky Mountain Dream Journal
New Dream Newsletter Kat Peters-Midland. Celebrate dreams and dreaming,
with this sharp new (and FREE) newsletter on dreamwork.
Submissions to
RMDJournal@...
or send to RMDJ
C/o Kat Peters-Midland
2519 Sourth Shields
Suite 1k PMB 193
Fort Collins, Colorado 80526
>>> Dreamwork with Animal Spirits
Animal Dreams and Visions
Connecting with the wisdom of the animals through shamanic practices can
open and deepen our communication with the animals in our dreams andin
ordinary reality. Learn how to directly communicate with the animal spirits
to receive guidance, healing and empowerment. This circle is open to all
levels of experience. Drums and rattles are provied, and you may bring your
own. You are also welcome to bring objects for the altar. Bring a
pillow/blanket for the floor and chairs are available. Wheelchair
accessible. Cost $15 per circle (meeting) Led by Laurie Bates, MA MFT.
Saturday, August 16, 2003, 6:30 - 9pm at Changemakers Books and Gifts for Women
6536 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, 5 blocks south of Ashby, 510-528-0304,
animalway@..., www.animalway.com
>>> On The Wings of Spirit; Shamanism, Intuition and Dreams.
A full day workshop to be held on dreams at the Still Point Interfaith
Retreat Center in Stillwater, New York on Saturday September 27th. For more
information please see our website at:
www.timesunion.com/communities/dreamweaving Or contact Ed Bonapartian
at
ebonapar@... if you have any questions.
>>> PSI Dreaming Conference 2003
ASD has tentatively scheduled the PsiDreaming 2003 Conference to take place
from Sunday, September 21, through Sunday October 5, 2003. The conference
will then become a read only archive for an additional two weeks for
participants (through October 19th, 2003). For more information, check for
updated information on the homepage of the ASD Website (
http://www.asdreams.org/index.htm ), or contact Dr. Ed Kellogg, the
PsiberDreaming 2003 Conference facilitator, at
alef1@...
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>>> Research Project on Shamanic Dreaming
Join a cutting-edge research project: Shamanic Journey Access of Others'
Dreams, Autumn-Winter 2003-2004
Focus on psycho-spiritual development and transformation through access to
multiple states of consciousness and exceptional human experiences.
1. Learn through your own perspective, abut the experiences and insights
your incubated dream brings your"
2. Learn about Shamanic journeys without prior conscious knowledge
concerning your dream question
3. Receive a summary of patterns and conclusions drawn from the overall
research, combining data from all the participants.
For more information, contact Gilbert Ave, Menlo Park, CA
650-326-5314
>>> Algonquin Park DreamQuest Adventure
With Craig Webb, August 10-17, 2003
Imagine paddling across a sheet of sparkling liquid diamond by day, tanning
peacefully to a gently dip-an-swing paddling rhythm. Them imagine the
wilderness laughter call of loons at sunset and the welcome, gentle wafting
aroma of campfire sir-fry, while you discover, by night, how to navigate
the tandem inner world of dreams. This experience begins Sunday night with
dinner at the Edge, followed by a pre-trip social to meet and share with
Craig and your fellow travelers. Following a restful night in the lodge or
one of our forest cabins, wake to a nourishing buffet breakfast before
packing our canoes and heading into Algonquin Park to dream. All inclusive
cost $810 CAN (US $55:) Contact Northern Edge Algonquin for more info
800-953-3343
www.algonquincanada.com
edge@...
>>>Rocky Mountain Dream Journal
New Dream Newsletter Kat Peters-Midland. Celebrate dreams and dreaming,
with this sharp new (and FREE) newsletter on dreamwork.
Submissions to
RMDJournal@...
or send to RMDJ
C/o Kat Peters-Midland
2519 Sourth Shields
Suite 1k PMB 193
Fort Collins, Colorado 80526
>>> On The Wings of Spirit; Shamanism, Intuition and Dreams.
A full day workshop to be held on dreams at the Still Point Interfaith
Retreat Center in Stillwater, New York on Saturday September 27th. For more
information please see our website at:
www.timesunion.com/communities/dreamweaving Or contact Ed Bonapartian
at
ebonapar@... if you have any questions.
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Do you know of interesting new websites you'd like to share with others? Or
do you have updates to existing pages? Help spread the word by using the
Electric Dreams DREAM-LINK page
www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/online97.htm. This is really a public
projects board and requires that everyone keep up his or her own link URLs
and information. Make a point to send changes to the links page to us
>>> Dream GriGri comics
http://www.grigri.tv/
This unusual website describes itself as a "graphical and narrative
web-experience" based around prehistory and psychoanalysis
>>> Dreams and reoccurrence of feelings
http://www.geocities.com/sellonge/
Dreams and reoccurrence of feelings is a site which presents an examination
of an interpretation method of dreams using the author's own dreams and
experiences and then proposes some appropriate and original outcomes.
This study includes all of the dreams which have been written for 5 years
(i.e. 42 dreams + a lucid one) and justifies the interesting hypothesis
that dreams reflect "preconscious" feelings from recent life experiences.
Among the proposed conclusions, one can find how this approach can bring us
to methodical investigations concerning the understanding of the symbolism
(the proposed examples concern dreamt-people including the dreamt-dreamer
himself), how it can bring us to the possibility to make any clear and
precise concepts for psychological field, and even how it can lead us to a
particular presentation in general psychology.
Some examples are given (including a lucid and creative dream), and the
epistemological perspective is not forgotten.
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Aug 10-17 in Canada
Algonquin Park DreamQuest Adventure. www.algonquincanada.com, or 800.953.3343.
Aug 16 in Oakland, CA
Dreamwork with Animal spirits, 6:30-9:30 pm. www.animalway.com
Aug 22-24 in Carpinteria, CA
Dream Tending Seminar with Stephen Aizenstat. Pacifica Graduate Institute,
www.pacifica.com, 805.969.5796
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Cover Artist Statement
Laura Atkinson
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Laura N. Atkinson
sunstarz2001@...
http://www.arthatglows.com/
The background behind the image was based on a dream experiment between
myself, and Ilkin (who frequently posts to the ASD bulletin board and the
World Dreams Peace Bridge site.) The original dream was hers, and I had
asked to "paint her dream". You are welcome to view my notes on it, which
can be found:
http://tinyurl.com/i2o6
http://www.arthatglows.com/photo61.htm
From the original silk painting, I took the image and applied the "neon"
effect, create a repetitive reflection of swirling pattern…in effect,
electrifying the image.
Now, whenever I see a sunflower, I think of a person on the other side of
the world, who is also inspired by the beauty of nature.
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An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis
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An Excerpt From The Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis
Why do people enjoy lucid dreaming? There are probably as many answers to
that question as there are lucid dreamers. In LDE 27 we asked readers what
it was about lucid dreaming that held their interest. We received numerous
responses ranging from practical uses to spiritual questing.
According to our readers, most lucid dreamers enjoy the sense of freedom
being lucid brings, the ability to defy the laws of physics, walk through
walls, fly, breathe underwater, etc. Some use lucid dreaming to rehearse
for waking life events, like giving a speech or practicing a sport. Others
enjoy being able to express themselves freely in the dreamstate, safe from
the pressures of society, where they can let off steam or speak their minds
to those they feel they can't confront in waking life. Still others of a
more metaphysical perspective use lucid dreaming to explore their own
psyche, to visit past lives, or induce self-healing.
Some dreamers are passive, allowing the dream to unfold around them, while
others engage dream characters and manipulate objects, taking a more active
role. Some ask their dream characters to explain to them what they
represent, as an aid in dream interpretation.
Taking this a step further, some dreamers ask their lucid dream characters
or symbols for clairvoyant or precognitive information. This is one of many
aspects of lucid dreaming that keeps Robert Waggoner interested in the
lucid dream state. In his article, LUCID DREAMING FOR PRECOGNITIVE
INFORMATION, Robert discusses active and ambient lucid precognitive dreams,
detailing some wonderful personal examples.
Regardless of your beliefs about dream reality, employing lucid dreams for
precognitive clues can be quite interesting and a lot of fun, as Robert
shows below. Give it a try. You may surprise yourself!
LUCID DREAMING FOR PRECOGNITIVE INFORMATION
(c) 2003 Robert Waggoner
In my experience, there seems to be two types of lucid precognitive dreams:
active and ambient. Active lucid precognitive dreams are ones in which the
lucid dreamer actively engages the dream objects or characters for a
precognitive response. By contrast, ambient lucid precognitive dreams are
ones in which the lucid dream report contains a precognitive element that
was not actively sought by the dreamer (this being more of a mixture of
lucid dreaming and standard precognitive dreaming). An example of ambient
lucid precognitive dreaming occurred to me in a dream in which I was being
chased by gangsters in a car in my old hometown. When I passed 17th and
Plum, I turned behind the Vickers gas station and became lucid when I saw a
car wash there! In waking physical reality, there was no car wash there -
at least at that time. Probably five years later, a car wash was built in
that exact same spot. I hadn't lived in that town for 15 years by the time
of the dream.
I remember the first time I tried to have a precognitive lucid dream in
response to a challenge by Linda Magallon. In the subsequent lucid dream, I
was in "like a big stage area for a band and a dance floor. There are
instruments all around, a drummer behind his drums, chairs, etc. I think,
"What should I do? Should I send energy to disabled people I know?" No,
that doesn't interest me. Then I think, Linda Magallon wants people to
precognate in dreams. But as I think about it, I can't think of how to
precognate! It seems absurd --- How am I supposed to precognate when I am
cognating now (in this dream)?" When I woke, a bit upset at this
mini-philosophical crisis, it was quickly evident that I needed to project
the precognition outward as if from another source like a character or
object in the dream."
As far back as 1986, Ed Kellogg, Ph.D. wrote in the *Dream Network
Bulletin* (vol. 4) about developing a Lucid Dream Incubation Technique
(LDIT) to seek answers to questions. In a lucid dream, Ed decided that the
answer to his important question would appear on a note when he turned over
a silver bowl. The answer on the dream note was later confirmed. Ed writes
"The essential principle behind this technique involves first finding a
medium for the materialization of the answer (such as a bowl, or closed
drawer) asking the question, waiting a few seconds, and then reading the
materialized answer (after turning over the bowl, or opening the drawer,
etc.) I have found it most important to pick an appropriate medium in each
dream for the LDIT (response)...."
The following are some of my other attempts at precognition in lucid
dreams. As you may notice in these accounts, the precognitive tasks vary in
a qualitative sense. Some of the tasks came to me spontaneously in the
lucid dream - and in that state, the task seemed a reasonable test. But
upon waking, it is easy to see that the tasks could have been much more
stringent and meaningful. For lucid dreamers who are interested in testing
precognition in lucid dreams, I strongly advise you to compose the
precognitive test in the waking state, so that you will have a solid test
available to you when you become lucid.
April 20-21 1999 "Talking To My Dead Father" --- Lucid Dream.
"The dream scene is basically like a dark stage. Suddenly I see a golden
wood ladder right in front of me, hanging in the air. I can see the
polished wood gleaming and the thin lines on the wood. Suddenly I see a
foot and then another and look up -- I recognize my dad is coming down the
gold ladder. I realize, "Hey, Dad is dead," and think, "Well, then this is
a dream." I am a bit surprised by his bad haircut, and grin at the
absurdity of not getting a good haircut in the afterdeath state! He looks
about 60 years old and very healthy, even though he passed on at 82.
I think that since he's dead, I'll ask him some questions. Then, I can
determine if the information is valid. He tells me that he is doing fine.
Then, reasoning that the deceased should know about issues around death, I
say, "Dad, tell me, when do you think M will die?" He looks at me and says,
"Oh, she will probably die in 2 to 6 years." (In my notes, I have written
'heart' but I can't recall if he said she'd have heart problems. To the
best of my knowledge, she has never been bothered by heart problems.) I ask
him some other questions. He says something like the coming months may be
challenging, but that the family can make it. I get the feeling that August
will be the most difficult. He also tells me that I need to be more
compassionate and understanding of one family member. He has some other
advice (but upon awakening, this is all I recall.) I felt very pleased to
see him."
As a postscript, I think that about a month later my sister's place in
Kansas was hit by a tornado, and sustained about $30,000 in damages, - no
one was home at the time.
Almost two years later, M went to the hospital in March 2001, complaining
of shortness of breath. It took the doctors a few weeks to diagnose the
problem, and they told her she had a heart problem, in which the muscles of
the heart begin to thicken and can't keep up with the supply of blood, so
the blood backs up into the lungs and creates a shortness of breath. They
said her veins and arteries were very healthy, and prescribed medication to
help her heart. As of today, she is still alive, and her heart problem is
her only serious medical issue (she is 78 years old).
In a lucid dream of Jan. 3-4,00, I had a spontaneous desire to experiment
with precognitive lucid dreaming. I wrote: "After a while, I see D, and
wonder what should I do in this lucid dream. Recalling some precognitive
lucid dreams of D, I step up and ask him, "When I hear from you next, what
will be the first words out of your mouth to me?" He looks me square in the
face and replies, "Robert, you." I make a note to remember that. Then once
again, I have this incredible surge of sound energy within me - like an
inner explosion that realigns my cells." (I wake up tingling and a bit
shocked.)
Almost five weeks later, the phone rings and my wife answers. She calls
out, "Robert, it's D." I recalled the lucid dream and took the phone and
said "Hello" while I waited for his response. D replied, "Robert, you are
finally there!" - confirming my earlier lucid dream which predicted the
first two words "Robert, you".
In a lucid dream a few years ago, I asked two questions of the same person;
the questions were, "A year from now, will you be married?" - he responded,
"No." Then I asked, "A year from now, where will you be living?" - he
responded, "In London." The responses given to both lucid dream questions
were correct one year later. At the time of the lucid dream, he had been
making plans to move away from London, and had a serious relationship that
could have led to marriage, but did not.
While traveling on business, I had another lucid dream in which I again
spontaneously made a precognitive dream task. In the lucid dream, I
announced that when I picked up the telephone in the dream, I would hear
from the most important person to talk to me on the next day. So, lucid, I
picked up the phone, and I heard my wife talking to me very happily. I woke
up and wrote the dream down (a bit disappointed that I had not thought of a
more convincing precognitive task). The next day, as I went to my meetings
and traveled, I had basically forgotten about the lucid dream, until that
evening, when I called my wife and she announced that she had great news!
As I recall, she was being offered some exciting task in her job as a
university administrator.
In this next case, I made a waking decision to become lucid and attempt to
discover precognitively the numbers of the Pick Three lottery game. This is
not a lottery game that I play, and my attempts to find the exact rules of
the game (before the dream) failed -- so I basically knew that the game was
a selection of three numbers.
May 30-31 5:45 am, "Lucid Lottery" - Lucid Dream
"I am walking along with a radio listening to something. I seem to be on
the 17th street sidewalk near my old elementary school. As I go along at
night, something seems odd - I realize that this is a dream. I put my hands
out in front of me and run down the sidewalk yelling, "This is a dream,
this is a dream!" I can see my hands go out of focus after about 5 seconds
- and I think that I need to be careful not to lose my visuals.
The stars are very bright and seem to be more numerous than in waking
reality. I think about flying up to the stars, but don't think it would
amount to anything. I put my hands up again and repeat that this is a
dream. I turn right towards my childhood home, when I see a car with
headlights on, turning into Mr. Metcalf's garage (different than waking
reality). I run over there. The car turns off its headlights.
It occurs to me that I could ask Mr. Metcalf what are the (Pick 3) numbers
for the next Iowa lottery, as another lucid dreamer had mentioned as a
precognitive test. I couldn't quite recall the name of the lottery game and
also the date. As I prepared to ask him the question, I saw a circular
thing in my hand - like a watch face only with numbers (actually it was
like the Wheel of Fortune on the tv show, in color). I thought, "Is this
the answer?" Then my vision seemed to fall on '8'. I looked again feeling
uncertain but this time saw no numbers, just the wheel. I looked again and
saw an '8'. Then finally I saw a '1'. I thought, "Is it 8-3-1?" I looked
again - but the wheel of numbers would change. For some reason, '831'
seemed like the number of something familiar (which reminded me of an old
lock number on a post office box in college that was circular shaped like
this dream wheel of fortune). Mr. Metcalf is now out of his car - but he is
about 40 years old (instead of 70 or 80) and so is his wife. I can't get
greater lucidity, feel a bit frustrated and decide to wake up."
Comments: When I woke up, I strongly felt that '8' was one of the numbers.
I wasn't pleased with how the numbers showed up, one at a time and before I
even asked the question formally!! Then I realized that in the dream when I
thought the "next lottery", I was also thinking that it would be the
weekend lottery (though there is a Weds. drawing and the morning was
actually Weds.). So I felt like it was a bit of a busted play, and my
lucidity wasn't sufficient. I did enjoy the dream's insertion of Mr.
Metcalf, who was an old codger in the neighborhood whose lawn I mowed -- he
had the fortune of having found oil on his land, so was quite wealthy even
though he lived very modestly, except for his car.
In any case, the weekend numbers were 8-0-8! I didn't even realize that 0
was a choice, having never played the pick three game - but you can see
from the dream report that I recall looking at the wheel in the dream and
seeing no numbers, which could possibly be considered 0. A liberal
interpretation might say that I saw on my first look, '8', on my second
look "nothing, but the circular wheel"-which is shaped like a '0',- and on
my third look, another '8'. Also, it didn't occur to me prior to the dream
and during the dream that the same number could show up twice, 8-0-8, which
is why I felt '3' seemed more appropriate. I have to say that I was a bit
upset that the numbers showed up before I formally asked the question.
Finally, I have another lucid dream which is a bit more clairvoyant or
telepathic, than precognitive. In it, I become lucid, and see a member of a
friend's family. I know this person has a rare physical condition, so
lucid, I go up and ask, "Why do you have this condition?" He responds, "I
have it for (this reason)." This completely shocks me and I wake up to
write it down. To make a long story short, I happened to mention this dream
to my friend. My friend is very surprised by this lucid dream and tells me
that I have uncovered a family secret, and the information provided in the
lucid dream is correct.
While I do not intend to presume the validity of lucid dream precognition
from these small samples, it is certainly suggestive of the possibility of
lucid dream precognition. Other lucid dreamers have reported instances of
lucid dream precognition which were later confirmed, according to their
self reports. In normal dreaming, there are thousands of reported instances
of precognitive dreaming (while in our private dream journals alone, many
of us could show hundreds of examples).
The value of lucidity however is that the lucid dreamer can direct the
content of the dream towards some specific goal or task, such as a
pre-determined precognitive task, under accepted scientific protocol. In
standard dreams, however, precognition happens randomly and could not be
subject to testing as easily or with high degrees of certainty. Also,
standard precognitive dreams often are not evident until after the event
takes place or they have symbolic content that is open to interpretation.
In the book *Dreamtime and Dreamwork* edited by Stanley Krippner, Jon
Tolaas has an excellent chapter on the common pitfalls of many reported
psychic dreams from a scientific standpoint. Nonetheless, I am certain that
an experiment could be structured and conducted to determine the validity
of lucid precognitive dreaming.
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Gestalt Dialogue For a Flying Dream
© 2003 Linda Lane Magallón
(Excerpted from "How To Fly")
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How can you do interactive dreamwork when you fly solo? It's not hard--if
you're used to talking with yourself! And no, it's not crazy making when
you start to answer, either. It's just Gestalt dreamwork.
This kind of dreamwork treats all dream characters and elements of the
dream as "parts of you." So you, your whole self can speak for each one of
them. All you need do is to change roles, like an actor putting on and
doffing different costumes in the dream play. The trick is to get each role
player to speak out. The simplest way is to start asking questions of your
dream symbols and expect an answer. Then the dialogue proceeds on its own.
Here's an example of gestalt work I did with one of my own dreams. I gave
myself a head start on interpretation by using a very effective method. I
incubated the subject of the dream before I went to sleep. That way, I'd
know the general nature and meaning of the dream. Try it, especially when
you're just beginning to unlock your dreams or anytime you'd like a boost
in ciphering work.
For this dream, I had asked for assistance with my book work. First, I
wrote down my dream:
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I'm feeling very anxious because I am being pursued by my blonde dream
friend Steve and an older, dark-haired Superman through a dark corridor
lined with nets. We can all fly but I'm trying to stay ahead and rise above
them. I land about two-thirds of the way up the net and grab onto the
meshing to climb the rest of the way.
Superman follows me. At the top I get my first good look at him in his red,
blue and yellow costume. I realize that the pursuit need not evoke the
anxiety I've been feeling, but is more like a friendly competition,
although there is still some tension between us.
At this point I'm standing at the edge of a hole with a younger dark-haired
male companion. He drops straight down into the pipe-like darkness, almost
to the ground. We are in mental contact and I "catch" him just before he
hits the ground. He levitates a few inches above it. This is a
demonstration to Superman that my companion and I are superheroic, too.
Up The Nets And Down The Hole, 2/20/89
Then I began a dialogue with dream characters. I could have written or
typed the report, but in this case I used a tape recorder, then transcribed
the script later on.
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Linda: Well, Steve, I haven't talked with you for a long time. What are you
doing?
Steve: I'm running after you. I want to catch up with you.
L: You mean you're lagging behind?
S: I'm not running, I'm flying and so are you.
L: Yes, but that's not the point. We need to get our act together.
S: Can you be supportive of my endeavors?
L: What are your needs?
S: I'm unsure about being before the public.
L: But you are very comely in appearance.
S: It's not my appearance, it's what I have to say: publicizing myself, who
I really am, think and believe. Showing off my creative side. I want the
creative product to be in my control because I have ideas on how it should
look.
L: The reason I'm running away is that I thought you would steal my ideas,
use them for your own purposes and call them your own. Then I'd have to be
"the woman behind the throne" again.
S: The only way they will be your own is to claim them as your own.
L: Ah! Then you are my old "objective" writer facade, aren't you?
S: Yes, that's right.
L: So you are that Aspect of me which puts himself out so a certain public
will respond, but which now I realize is not the person I wish to be. And
you are partially the
hero-who-rescues-Sleeping-Beauty-and-gleans-all-the-glory mythos.
L: Superman, who are you?
Superman: I'm the old "crime fighting" approach to nightmares and dreamwork.
L: Why are you pursuing me?
SM: I find you fascinating; I want to get to know you better; I'm attracted
to the fact that you can fly.
L: But so can you and Steve.
SM: Yes, but you are female energy and that's intriguing.
L: A different kind of superhero?
SM: Yes, that's right.
L: Hm. I wonder what kind that is. And what of you, Partner?
Partner: I am the part which is not so sure he can fly, but I'm willing to
go along with you. I trust you and am willing to be your partner.
L: And what of you, Black Hole?
Black Hole: Instead of the "Valley of Death" or "Valley of Darkness", I am
the one you can go through to get to the other side. I'm a doorway or well,
a pipette to the ground, but ultimately a Phoenix route to a new universe.
L: And why is my Partner dropping straight down this well to the ground?
BH: As an act of courage. It's coming from the "top down" and bringing the
"high flying" ideas down to the ground, but not hurting oneself in the
process. Being able to catch oneself, to levitate if need be.
L: Ah! So for the levitation to take place, the tension has to come from
above!
BH: That's right.
L: I am pulling from a position above. And the reason I got there was by
climbing up the networks...I get it!
I can't face the heroes of my flying dream project until I get on top of
our relationships! The blonde man and Superman were flying separately;
Superman is a self-sufficient hero. I think he is curious about connective
energy; he's trying to figure out how that works.
My partner and I were cooperating. Together. That's the new approach I can
use. Perhaps I can project a mental bond or a heart link with my writing?
For sure, I can talk about the mutual side of dreams.
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Although I can talk with both animate and inanimate objects, I find that
dream dialoguing is especially effective when I'm dealing with specific
dream characters. They're more likely to respond in words. I have
conversed with such diverse entities as aliens, animals, the color
turquoise, and even the dream itself. But some symbols are more feelings
than words. A black cloud might just sit and sulk. When that happens, it's
better to try another method.
http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html
(Dream Flights)
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Invitation from the World Dreams Peace Bridge
Treasure Chest DaFuMu for the New Year (26th July)
Jean Campbell & Explora
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http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/monthyupdates.htm
Dreaming of peace and the interesting projects created as dreams come true
happen daily on the Bridge. Join us. To learn more about The World Dreams
Peace Bridge, go to our web site at
http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org ,
or join the Peace Bridge discussion group by sending a post to
worlddreams-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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Dear Dreamers,
Members of the World Dreams Peace Bridge
www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org and Dream of Peace www.dreamofpeace.net
would like you to celebrate with us by dreaming together on a Day Out of
Time (July 25) and for a Treasure Chest DaFuMu (July 26) in honor of the
New Year.
The 13 Moon Calendar Change Peace Movement aims to replace current
institutionalized `Gregorian' calendar, of 12 months of irregular length,
with a calendar which just `is', the 13 Moon / 28 Day count. The Moon
cycles the Earth 13 times each year, so our solar calendar becomes a
lunar-solar calendar. Each Moon then becomes 4 weeks of a perfect 7 days.
"This is not the first time people have used the 13 Moon Calendar. The
Druids, The Inca's, Ancient Egyptians, Mayans, and Polynesians all kept a
13 moon, 28 day count. The Lakota Indians based theirs on the keya, or
turtle since the turtle has 13 scales on it's back. Modern science has even
discovered that dolphins keep time with 13 sets of 28 grooves along their
teeth."
What makes this especially interesting, is that in addition to the 13 Moons
of 28 days, there is also a Day Out of Time, for global celebration,
universal forgiveness, and artistic expression. A Day Out of Time (July
25), to return to the indigenous path of the 13 Moons.
http://www.tortuga.com/
http://www.13moon.com/
On this Day out of Time, we will also participate in a worldwide Day of
Global Love and Thanks to Water.
http://www.thank-water.net/
Amazingly, enough both the Day of Global Love and Thanks to Water, and the
Day Out of Time, are to be held on the same day (July 25). What a fantastic
celebration!
* Please join us to send our Love and Thanks to all the water in our
physical body that has been sustaining and nurturing our lives on this
planet. 70% of our body is made of water. We owe so much our health to the
water in our body. Mother Earth
* Then, let us send our Love and Thanks to all the water on Planet Earth.
70% of the surface of the Earth is occupied by water. The environment on
planet Earth is maintained by the water circulating in various forms. If it
had not been for water, life would not have been created on planet Earth.
Purification of the World Dreams Peace Bridge Reservoir of Healing
Energy (July 25)
Of course, the fun doesn't end here. The World Dreams Peace Bridge also has
a special Reservoir of healing energy, first dreamed of by May Tung.
"The idea is to have our own Peace Bridge Reservoir of Healing Energy." May
wrote. "We can concentrate on this central place, sending our individual
healing energy to this Reservoir. Whenever anyone wants to or needs, they
can go there. We may even meet each other there!"
This Reservoir is located north of the Peace Bridge. It is a naturally
formed pond, surrounded by boulders, rocks, trees, green grass, and wild
flowers. No one has ownership of it. Birds and animals frequent there.
In time for this Day Out of Time dreaming, a Reservoir page will be
available at the World Dreams site, so you can record your thoughts and
dreams. As you can imagine, by sending our Love and Thanks to Water, the
healing energy of the reservoir will be purified, bringing great benefits
to all.
Treasure Chest DaFuMu for the New Year (26th July)
The 13 Moon Calendar is actually a lunar-solar-galactic calendar. In fact
it tunes into the movement of the star Sirius, the brightest star in our
sky. Each year of the 13 Moon Calendar, begins on the day in which the
sacred star Sirius rises with the sun in the morning.
Last year, on this date, Jeremy Seligson had his fantastic "PeaceTrains"
dream, which gave birth to the Peace Train which now travels the world,
with artwork, spreading a message of peace. Here is what Jeremy says about
the train:
"The train travels at whatever speed suits those it is visiting. It is
fueled by imagination and good will. But more than anything else, it is
fueled by love. Love for oneself and love for the other, importantly for
those who are of a different culture than one's own, and especially for the
children who will inherit our Earth. The fact that it is at all is more
important than where it will end up. But its tracks lead all over the globe
and perhaps one day all over the cosmos. It is adaptable. It will survive.
It is your train, too, and you can get on it at anytime. Your friends and
family are welcome, as well. Even your pets and plants are invited to get
on ... the mountains and the seas, even the stars."
This, along with the other celebrations, is a good reason why our first
Treasure Chest DaFuMu on July 26 ("Big Dream of Good Fortune") should be a
great success.
About a year ago, Nick had a dream in which he began to think of what
people would think of his site Dreampeace, which had recently started. In
the dream, he says, "I met a man, at a local market, who gave me a gift. I
`saw' with my minds eye, an image of a treasure chest. Awakening from the
dream, I knew that this treasure chest, may contain all kinds of gifts for
the site.
We are asking that people set their intention during the Treasure Chest
DaFuMu to finding a gift for the children in the treasure chest. Perhaps we
can visualize our hands, excitedly foraging through the chest, for a gift
which we can share. See ourselves amongst the trees, the waves rolling onto
Treasure Island.
Good luck! And enjoy the celebration.
Explora and Jean
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New Addition:
http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/reservoir.htm
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The World Dreams Peace Bridge is a group that uses personal dreams for
public world peace. You can find out more about the WDPB at
http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/
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The Waves: 04. Journey to Mt. Shasta
Spectral Moon (May 30 to June 26, 2003)
© 2003 Nick Cumbo
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The Waves is a newsletter reporting on the explorations of the Sea Life
community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims to bring
together a circle of dreamers from around the globe, collaborating in
dreaming adventures, and 'dreaming with and for the earth itself'
Link:
http://www.dreamofpeace.net/
This moon, we'll be looking at our dream journeys to the magnificent and
mysterious Mt. Shasta. From magical and mutual dream adventures, to the
presence of underground cave systems inside the mountain. Through
collaboration with Dream Alliance, we take our first big step into the
exploration of Mt. Shasta.
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"The Mt. Shasta area in northern California (70 miles South of the Oregon
border) is regarded as one of the major spiritual areas on earth. Mt.
Shasta has been written about in numerous books detailing hundreds, if not
thousands, of appearances of UFO's, angels, masters and other remarkable
spiritual experiences that have taken place in this area. Even the origin
of the name, "Shasta," is clothed in mystery. Some say that Mount Shasta
was actually named by French fur trappers who called it chaste, meaning
"pure." Or, it could have received its name from the Tshastel Indians who
lived in the area. The Sanskrit word Shasta means one who lives according
to divine law." (Quantum Quests)
A little while back I met, John, a member of a 9-member lucid dreaming
group, in a small town in Arizona, through a message he'd posted to the
World Dreams Peace Bridge:
"Here's my recent dream and how I got here. I spent the waking day before
my dream looking up ways in which my dream group could link up with
like-minded dream people in helping to bring about World Peace. I found
several sites in Mexico and Canada that seemed promising. That night, I
dreamed that a Native American man named Art came and sat down to play
drums with me. (In the waking world Art and I have played at ceremonies and
gatherings. Art is the great grandson of the Apache chief, Geronimo).
After we played drums in the dream, Art told me that his tribe supports the
work that we are doing and then he gave me a word as a gift. The word is
"dreampeace". When I woke up I looked up dreampeace on the internet and
found your group. I am part of a small (9 member) lucid dream group in a
small town in the mountains of So. Arizona."
Very excited by the chain of events which had led John in our direction, I
replied that our site was in fact called 'Dreampeace'. A month or so later,
John invited our group to share Mt.Shasta as a mutual dream destination
with the Dream Alliance.
"My wife and I camped at the base of Mt. Shasta a few years ago and that
night I dreamed that the mountain was a huge castle. There was no way in
unless I scaled the wall all the way to the top. The castle was huge,
reaching almost a mile straight up and I just didn't have the courage to
scale it alone. If I had been lucid I could've flown to the top. Anyway,
with friends I think we could make it into the castle and I'm absolutely
sure the adventure would be worth it." Contact me when your team is ready
and the Dream Alliance will join you in the Great Mt. Shasta Adventure."
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It didn't take long before we began to have some success. The first to have
any luck was Ascension (Nick). In his dream he found himself in the back
garden of a house he was apparently living in, which in turn was situated
at the bottom of a golf course. Which was strange of course, since
Ascension didn't live anywhere near a golf course in waking life.
"I wander out onto the golf course, and survey the greens, which gradually
slope up and into the distance from me. The course however seems quite
small, I can easily see it's boundaries to my left and right, which are
marked by trees. It appears to be deserted, not a soul in sight. It is
cloudy overhead and looks like it will rain. Suddenly the clouds break all
around me, and rapidly disperse. Bright sunshine illuminates the landscape
for many miles around, revealing the splendor of a mountain range in the
distance, to the right of the golf course. Around the golf course I now see
many lush valleys and wooded areas, which gradually lead to the foot of the
mountain range. I am spellbound by the beauty of the mountain, now clearly
visible against the blue sky."
After waking from the dream (in which he soon became lucid), Ascension
decided to do a search on Mt Shasta and golf courses, to see what might
turn up. He was immediately surprised, after clicking on the first link.
There, staring at him in the face, was a golf course situated at the foot
of the mountains, with forests and valleys in between. Ascension added,
"Believe me when I say that apart from the single picture that was posted,
I have never seen or read anything else about this mountain. In fact, early
this morning was the first I had ever heard of it, so to see this golf
course with the mountains as a backdrop as it was in my dream is quite
fascinating"
Ascension wasn't the only one to express amazement at the sheer beauty of
the mountain. Strawin (Valter) also managed to visit it in a lucid dream,
reporting his shock at just how large it was. In fact Strawin managed the
journey twice in the same night! "Alright! Now that was cool! What a
mountain! I've never seen anything that big in my life nor in my dreams!
That was truly a magnificent sight!". Apparently, upon looking flipping
backwards, and looking back up at the mountain, all he saw were two giant
sculptures of two young scholars from their waist up, facing away with
their bags on their back. It's interesting to ponder, if there was any
significance to that.
Other's such as EynKiora stumbled upon similarly strange bits of knowledge.
"Theres a huge mountain there, and I fly to the highest point I can get to.
Here I begin to lose lucidity. I see a place a few feet higher up than
where I am, and I climb up to it. I see a boy (teen) climbing with his
father. I feel like I'm watching the boy and am the boy at the same time.
He fall down a hole, and lands on something soft, and starts to look at it.
His father tells him not to, its a corpse he (the father) found when he was
climbing as a child, of a man shot and killed during the war in the 40s. I
separate from this scene and fly off, I see four very regular rectangular
stone things sticking out of the top of the mountain. The best way I can
think of describing it, is a side view of four pieces of toast sticking out
of a four piece toaster."
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UNDERGROUND CAVES
Initially our project didn't have all that much focus. Guided meditation,
can be a great source of knowledge, and especially helpful when used in
combination with dreaming. It can clearly direct oneself to interesting
lines of research. In my meditation on Mt Shasta, I was given an image of a
two doorways. One lay above a vertical line, the other directly below. The
image gains more value, when we look at the reports of others who've
previously dreamed of Mt. Shasta. As an example we have this dream from
Dee, who runs the amazing Great Dreams website:
"I float into another massive room that has a huge fireplace built into one
wall and built with smaller golden fieldstone. Above the mantle of the
fireplace, it reads MT. SHASTA. From this room, I can see other rooms
through the doors, but they are all down from this level. All the other
rooms are underground."
Then, there are the legends of "the mysterious people who supposedly live
inside the mountain. They are said to be descendants of an ancient society
from Lemuria, a lost continent that sunk eons ago. These Lemurians
supposedly live deep inside the mountain in apartments plated with gold. In
this secret colony, they preserve their ancient customs. Lemurians are
commonly described as graceful and tall -- seven feet and up -- with long,
flowing hair."
Another man reported that he fell asleep on Mt. Shasta, to be awakened by a
Lemurian who led him inside the mountain to his "cave, which was paved with
gold." The Lemurian told the man that there were a series of tunnels left
by volcanoes that were under the earth like freeways -- a world within a
world." (Out West Newspaper)
By chance, EkawaAwake happened to report this dream, which certainly seemed
to relate:
"I was the god of molten rock and caves. I was the care-taker of a human
village of poets. The Earth God, the first god, wanted to kill my people.
He shook the land in a great earthquake. Only Two people escaped to my
caves. I wanted to go out and try to stop the Earth God, but I knew that my
power was less than his because I controlled but a small part of the earth,
and he controlled the whole of it. I stood just inside my caves mouth as I
watched my people crushed beneath the land which had once nurtured them so
carefully into being. I said to myself, "I must not go out, somehow I must
remain."
This is a wonderful quality of dreaming; it gives us the ability to look
through another's eyes. Could it be that the dream, was retelling in a
rather poetic way an ancient legend of the land? That's a possibilty I'm
drawn to, though there are certainly many more. In any case it gave a
fascinating insight into the relationship between the spirits of the land.
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GAINING ENTRANCE
In Pilot's (Albert) dream he uncovered a valuable technique, that seemed to
suggest the use of lighting as a magical aid to our journeying.
There are about 7 or 8 symbols on my forearm that indicate the levels of
sorcery, and I look up to see that my mom gave me a new job. The place is a
castle and we are serving the king and queen and their people. I see them
setting up large cakes as people walk in. I'm really happy to be making a
bit of money. All the people decide to leave since there is a war about to
happen. Me and this girl are supposed to team up and use magick, so we wait
atop a structure and get hit by lightning, and I watch ourselves from third
person. The lightning is supposed to initiate the magick, and then I join
in the battle inside a big cavern and outside the castle. I pretend to be
axing people in the chest as I walk around. The fight was decided from the
start to be in our favor, so we win."
Interestingly CCHawk reported a similar sword battle inside a maze. After
finally coming to some kind of victory, a man who'd begun pouring healing
water on the victims, told him to look up. To his surprise, CCHawk looked
up above him to see a mountain he immediately recognised; Mt. Shasta. The
theme of these battles was made even more obvious by John's reply:
"The dream about the castle rings true, because when I had the dream I knew
that there were forces inside the castle that must be overcome inside the
castle that must be overcome in order for us to gain entrance. I knew I
couldn't climb the walls and fight the forces by myself"
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THE COVER OF DARKNESS
In another dream, I was talking to a friend, Katia, who's actually
Portugese. I like to think of her appearance as rather symbolic, as Katia
certainly didn't know about our dream journey to Mt. Shasta.
"She is telling me about this Chilean rock. I get the feeling it was a
family possession, perhaps it was from a dead relative. It appears as
though she didn't get to keep the rock forever, but that she merely got to
hold it. She then continues, "That night, the rock came to me in a dream".
By now, she's certainly got hold of my attention (it's a dream! wow!)
Apparently the rock told her about the 'pollution inside Mt. Shasta'. She
describes the blackness, and I get a mental image of an smokey/oily film
like layer. She talks about how one can stay near/in it, and travel through
the caves, while remaining separate from it."
This certainly was fascinating. My intention for dreaming, had been to meet
a Lemurian Being, and these words of wisdom for our journey sure seemed to
link in. Little did I expect, to have another dream the same night:
"I see Katia again, and immediately am reminded of the dream I just had. I
first ask her if she has a Chilean Rock (though I may have said Ring). She
laughs a little, and says no. But then she continues, "Though last night I
did have a dream". I'm very excited by now, and am about to jump in with my
story. Yet, I decide to hold back. I wanna see how her story unfolds.
I get the feeling she was contacted by higher spiritual guidance, whose
words she seems to be repeating for me. I remember her saying "Considering
OUR FUTURE is on the BRIGHT side", and then singing twice and softly "she's
breaking up for us"
I woke, marveling at the beauty of the dream. I had the impression that it
may have been the mountain or the forces of the mountain were opening up
for us. This seemed to be confirmation that the spirits had given us
permission to enter the mountain.
Just a few days earlier, my friend Alana had purchased a set of crystal
cards, that are used for divination. Each has a series of images of
different crystals, along with the name of a particular attribute that
belongs to them. The concept behind them is that through meditation, one
can come into contact with the energy field of the Earth, and further come
into resonance with the teachings / attributes of each crystal. One chooses
a series of cards, by simply feeling out whichever they are attracted to.
After quickly getting up to write down the details of my previous dream, I
dropped back, and soon after fell into a relaxed, meditative state.
Immediately, I received a mental impression of being given two crystal
cards. The second of which was labeled "Darkness". An inner voice spoke,
"There's cover in here".
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NEW SHAMBHALA
Greyfyre (Jessica) became conscious that she was dreaming, and got the urge
to call out the name "Cryprus", so she did, immediately receiving the
attention of a grypon; a mythological creature generally seen as being of
great intelligence and wisdom.
"Out of the mural wall, gliding in, comes that same white gryphon from the
last dream. It is about 12" to the shoulder and about 16" to the top of its
head. It lands on the bed of the room and feels very sweet and innocent. It
is definitely very young. I sit down next to it, and start to stroke it;
paying very close attention so that I can remember it's appearance better
when I wake up.
I get the impression that the gryphon is male, and I notice that his eyes
are a golden yellow color and that his wings are more gray than white
though the rest of his feathers are extremely white. The little gryphon is
just so adorable in nature that I want to stay there and play with him but
I also really want to do the projects we have lined up. I tell the little
gryphon that I'm going to go do the Mt. Shasta project, and he seems
excited and wants to come, so I pick him up. I go out a door that appeared
where there was a wall earlier and find on the other side a hallway with
hundreds of doors going endlessly to the left and to the right.
I just go up to the second door on the left (since it didn't really matter
which door I chose) and started to focus on the word 'Shambhala'. I'm not
sure where it came from; just vaguely remember hearing it in the dream. I
know I was using it to mean Mt Shasta."
Unfortunately, Greyfyre ended up being interrupted by a rude dream
character. However, she not only met a beautiful mythological creature to
share her dreams with, but her dream seemed to link into another wonderful
idea.
"Shambhala was a geographic location, a seat of inspiration where the
Buddha taught the Kalachakra Tantra, the Tantra of the Wheel of Time. In
the mythology of Pon, the native religion of Tibet, Shambhala was a Central
Asian kingdom, the origin and center of the world whence issued all
spiritual energies." (shambhala.com)
Even more fascinating, is that another site on Mt Shasta actually had this
to say:
"This is the New Shambhala. Many people are coming to the Mt. Shasta area,
drawn by a similar vision. There are spiritual centers, retreats, classes
and people drawn to this place of harmony with nature. Come to share your
part in the New Shambhala." (Quantum Quests)
Soon after, Greyfyre had another Shambhala dream, once again drawing on the
strong mythological connection that has become quite a trademark of her
dreaming:
"There's a rich guy who's company did some digging or something in the
ground. They found these tunnels and met some gnomes who lived deep inside
the earth. Jack O'neil of SG-1 (Stargate) turns up to investigate since
they think the gnomes came from another world or something to that effect.
He and his team get access to the gnomes who are still being held inside
the rich guy's headquarters.
I know that they talked about some special place within the earth (when
they talked about it I got the visual impression of a sparkling enormous
underground cavern with all kinds of plant life) and also about dreaming.
From what the gnomes said, dreaming is a pretty important part of their
culture. I'm also fairly certain that someone mentioned Mt. Shasta and
Shambahala in the same sentence.
They leave to go back and figure out what to do, though it seems decided
that the company has to stop digging underground and leave the gnomes
alone. While they are back talking about it to their superior officer they
get word that something bad happened back at the company's on site
headquarters. The company owner doesn't want them let in but the security
guy doesn't care anymore. They find out that the company's digging or
holding captive of the gnomes, had upset the gnomes very badly and
interrupted one of their rituals. Though I don't remember exactly how they
handled it, I get the sense that in the same vein as the tv show everything
turned out alright.
At the very end I remember the team talking about the special area within
the earth and someone saying that the gnomes must have found it to survive,
but Dr. Jackson disagreed saying that the fact that they were still digging
around is proof enough that they haven't. He says something about checking
out Mt. Shasta"
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MUTUAL DREAMING
How we came about working with the Dream Alliance, on the Mt. Shasta
project, was a miracle all on it's own. Yet, the mutual dreaming didn't end
there. First there was this message to me, from John:
"Had a short dream last nite, I wasn't lucid but it may be of interest.
Dreamed I was camping on a mountainside with others. Saw a large log
suspended horizontally in the air. A young man, 20 yrs. old, was standing
on the log, spinning it with his feet the way lumberjacks do. On his
shoulders stood another young man who was lifting a heavy object over his
head. It was amazing. Two young magician/daredevils on the mountain. I
thought one of them may have been you."
Eagerly, I sent off a picture of myself to John. To which he replied, "You
were the guy standing on the other guy's shoulders". As if to confirm the
truth of the message, I instantly received a shiver of light through my
body. However, at this point, we're still waiting on the identity of the
other magician J
John's next dream was a great example of mutual dreaming, and was certainly
an inspiration to my own interest in the area:
"I awakened and called for my dream team members. Two of them showed up and
I asked them to look at their hands to make them lucid, like I was. They
did and we then walked outside joined hands and began flying to Mt. Shasta.
I felt we were flying too low at first and we started to fly higher when we
flew into the window of a 2 story building. We walked through the room and
jumped out the window on the other side of the room only to find that we
were thousands of feet in the air.
I was halfway out the window when Kate and I looked down and found we were
thousands of feet in the air. I felt her shock run thru me and said
"Just......Breathe". At this point my waking life cat knocked over
something in the kitchen and woke me up. I knew immediately that the
building that we has passed thru was the inner plane of Mt. Shasta. One of
the dreamers I was with (in the dream) had a dream of jumping off of a high
rock ledge that same night."
In another of my own dreams, I asked 'The Waves', to guide me to Mt.
Shasta. Awaking, I began to read something that looked like a post to Sea
Life. The only difference, being that the interface came through in black
and white outline format. It was by a woman, and read, "To ask questions of
your own, let me suggest a form I use personally". Apparently, a brown crystal.
I got the feeling from this dream that the brown crystal was a form that
could be used to enter into communication with Mt. Shasta. What made this
whole concept really interesting, was that soon after I received a post
from John (who hadn't yet read my dream).
"A friend of our dream group is now traveling in California and we gave her
a piece from a quartz crystal cluster to place on Mt. Shasta. We have the
rest of the cluster on the altar where we have our dream meetings here in
Arizona. She arrives in Mt. Shasta tomorrow June 24, so we can all follow
the crystal energy path to find our way to the mountain."
And guess what type of crystal it was?, "a brown/gray smokey quartz
crystal". Amazing. Considering John's friend Jean, hadn't actually visited
the forum, it seems quite possible that my dream picked up on the knowledge
through psychic phenomena. Perhaps the simple black and white post, was a
symbol to help demonstrate this. The crystal trail to Mt. Shasta, is
certainly a wonderful idea!
In one of my final few journeys to Mt Shasta, I become conscious that I was
dreaming.
"I lean back and begin singing. "I wanna travel to Mt Shasta", I repeat it
quite a number of times, finally calling on my higher self to guide me
there. It works! I'm away. Floating through the astral. I finally emerge,
and I find myself on a mountain face. Yet my attention isn't drawn to the
mountain itself.
There's a circular graveyard type place - a memorial. I get the feeling
it's for the beings who live under the ground, in Mt Shasta. There's a
really vibrant energy surrounding me. I feel like I've been drawn here for
some special purpose. There are perhaps 8-10 tombstones placed around the
circle. My attention is drawn to the first; my mind kind of zooms in.
I instantly have this strange impression that I actually saw an image of
this circle tombstone area on the internet, in waking life. It's a feeling
that I had in fact been warned about what was to happen. The grave has a
special message on it: "ID=125". This seems to have some real importance.
It almost feels as though the ground is going to open up for me. The
tombstone radiates light in all directions, it's energy touching me. It's
beautiful!"
Initially, I'd actually wondered if perhaps this was like some graveyard
for the beings who lived inside the mountain. I sure wasn't expecting
John's reply. Apparently, his street address was Tombstone Canyon. Amazing!
That made even more sense. His dream group has 9 people in it - what if
they were the beings living (at least in their dreams) under the mountain.
The actual street number was also extremely similar, but for some reason I
wasn't entirely sure about a link there. It was only when writing up the
article, that the realisation actually came through.
As Strawin had mentioned earlier, a recent project, completed by one of the
dream teams was on the topic of dream-based discovery of one's 'Animal
Totems'. And it's topic ID; 125. Seems awfully fitting then to include this
final message from John, which seems to highlight the healing power and
wisdom of Mt. Shasta:
"One of our dreamers, Jane, dreamed that she entered a cave at Mt. Shasta
with a group of people. It was kind of like a class inside, with a female
teacher. She gave everyone in the class a card of their own. Jane's card
had lions on it. She's had lion dreams lately and is looking for the
courage to make a big change in her life. Mt. Shasta has helped her find
that courage."
This project turned out to be quite a fascinating adventure, and a great
demonstration of the benefits of collaboration between dream groups. What a
magical journey!
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Stay tuned next moon for the results of our research into 'Children's
Dreams'. In the meantime dreamers are invited to contact Nick (Explora),
with their dream experiences of Mt Shasta. We're always looking for new
people to join us in our adventures, so if it sounds like fun, please
consider the offer.
Email:
explora@...
Forum:
http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife
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RESOURCES
Shambhala
Link:
http://www.shambhala.com/
Great Dreams: Holograms
Link:
http://www.greatdreams.com/holograms.htm
Sacred Texts Online: A Dweller On Two Planets
Link:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/dtp
World Dream Bank: Mt. Shasta
Link:
http://www.worlddreambank.org/S/SHASTAOC.HTM
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Archetypal Psychology and Dreamwork
Richard Catlett Wilkerson
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[All footnotes without an author refer to James Hillman.]
Welcome to the topsy-turvey world of Archetypal Psycyology! At first the
ride through this post-Jungian school of thought may feel like you are in a
Felini film or playing a game of Shoots and Ladders, but eventually the
seriousness by which they take the imagination and the depth they give to
the dream and other images is perhaps better characterized by a Bergman
film, full of pregnant pauses and unexpected glances that bring our
attention to the overtones and undertones of the moment and lead us deeper
into the image.
Archetypal psychology separated itself as a distinct school from Jungian
psychology in the early 1970's. As its founder and most prolific writer,
James Hillman, says of archetypal psychology, it is an attempt to "connect
to the wider culture of Western Imagination beyond the consulting room"
(Archetypal Psychology, 1) That is, archetypal psychology has roots in
personal analysis, but extends its applications to art, architecture,
literature and other cultural products. The archetype, so crucial to
Jungian psychology, is released from being an archetype ~in~ us and seen
more as an adjective than a noun, an encounter that finds it expression in
all aspects of life. It is recognized as being prior and more fundamental
to life than any individual psyche.
Archetypes, seen in Jungian psychology as the structures that underpin the
psyche, whereas in Archetypal psychology they are seen as "structures in
process" (Re-Visioning Psychology, 148).
The term 'archetypes' typically refers to psychological patterns that
appear thought human experience and can be seen in the motifs of age-old
myths, legends, and fairy tales found in every culture through the history
of the human species. Archetypes, the symbolic forms of the unconscious,
can also be seen in the imagery of the dream. Examples of archetypes are
"the wise oldman/woman" 'the tree of life,' 'the journey,' and 'home.' "(
Aizenstat,1995, 95)
But in archetypal psychology this definition is expanded beyond the one's
personal relationship with these structuring powers to include the
non-personal imaginal realm. "Our broader view of Depth Psychology includes
the psychic realities of all phenomena, emphasizing the part of the Depth
Psychology tradition that honors psyche in the world. " (Aizenstat , 1995, 95)
When we talk about the appearance of archetypes as people in dreams or in
imaginative spaces, then the ~persons~ of archetypes emerge, the
phantasmagoria, the mythical figures, the daimones, and gods. When
discussed in terms of symptoms and affect, they are discussed as the styles
of suffering (paranoid, borderline, phobic). When discussed as ideas, they
express the intellectual psyche. That is, they express themselves as ideas
important to soul. " A God is a manner of existence, an attitude toward
existence, and a set of ideas." (Re-Visioning, 103) Each perspective comes
a whole pantheon of deities, sub-deities, nymphs, wrights, angels, demons,
symbols, landscapes, plants, activities and modes of behavior. This is
perhaps a clumsy way to refer to what happens, but to date is also the most
elegant. When your daughter falls in love with a disaster, it becomes clear
that the whole pantheon of the god of love has become activated, along with
all that this entails. The ability of these powers to possess and direct
our behavior, to cause us suffering, but also to give us meaning, would be
inadequately expressed as anything less than the possession by a god. We
rarely have ideas of importance, they have us.
What really makes archetypal psychology different than Jungian analysis of
individuals and culture? There are many levels to this answer, some of
which are quite complex, but basically there is a shift in the attitude of
the psyche being in us to us being in the psyche. Some would argue that
Jung made this shift himself (When we are awake we say we had a dream, but
when we are dreaming we know the dream has us). However, the archetypal
school draws these elements out in a particular way that brings into
question a wide variety of Jungian concepts, including the Self, the Heroic
ego, representations, symbols and many other ideas.
Key concepts: soul, archetype, imagination, psyche
Andrew Samuels (Jung and the Post-Jungians, 1985) notes that a survey of
the main tenets of archetypal psychology need to include the primary
concept of archetype, its area of interest as the image, and its vehicle as
mythology that opens instead of grounds and a world view of pluralism and
polytheism. However, it is the re-visioning of the concept of the ~soul~
that directs archetypal psychology.
Typically in the West, we encounter the concept of the soul in spiritual
terms, but the archetypal school sees it more in its direction of depth,
not the rising heights of spirit.
Hillman borrows the term "soul-making" from the Romantics. As Keats says in
a letter to his brother "Call the world if you please, 'The vale of
Soul-making,' Then you will find out the use of the world…" (April 21,
1819 Letter to George and Georgiana Keats)
"From this perspective," say Hillman "the human adventure is a wandering
through the vale of the world for the sake of making
soul." (Re-Visioning, ix) Since our life is already psychological, it
behooves us to find the connection between this psyche/soul and the world,
and a place for soul in this world. Just noticing is not enough, some
encountering is needed. "…it is not enough to evoke soul and sing its
praises. The job of psychology is to offer a way and find a place for soul
within its own field. For this we need basic psychological ideas.
" (Re-Visioning, ix)
But what is the soul? "By soul I mean, first of all, a perspective rather
than a substance, a viewpoint toward things rather than a thing
itself." (Re-Visioning, x) Wherever there is an encounter, there is a
something that comes between the encounter and me. Soul-making is opening
up this middle ground between. "In another attempt upon the idea of soul I
suggested that the word refers to that unknown component which makes
meaning possible, turns events into experience, is communicated in love,
and has a religious concern." (Re-Visioning, x).
Three modes of soul then emerge:
1. Soul as the deepening of events into experience.
2. The soul has a relation with death, and hence love and spirituality.
3. The imaginative possibility of our nature. Reflective speculation,
dream, imagery and fantasy. Imagination, depth, symbolic, metaphorical realm.
"Image is psyche" said Carl Jung (Re-Visioning, 23) and this is a strange
thing at first. Usually we think of our psyche as a receptacle full of
images at times, cleared at other times. But here, psyche ~is~ image. There
is no consciousness that is not already and first an image, a perspective.
We can't bracket out our fantasies, because the whole notion of bracketing
out is itself a fantasy.
Jung says that by image we "do not mean the psychic reflection of an
external object, but a concept derived from poetic usage, names a figure of
fancy or fantasy image" CW6 743 (From Berry, 1982, 57)
This places the image in a middle zone between, with matter/concrete below
it and spirit/abstract/ideal above it. Its no wonder the Greeks call the
butterfly "Psyche" as it hovers between heaven and earth. As Casey notes,
this middle zone, call it psyche, imaginal or soul, also connects the ideal
with the material. It is the imaginal that grounds spirit and the imaginal
that lifts it into the abstract. (Casey, 1991).
In archetypal psychology, the image is primary. The image doesn't
(primarily) represent something else. Thus dream images, as with all
images, are not symbols, are not analogies, are not signs, are
representations. The image is therefore not just visual, though it may at
times take on visuals. Rather it is image in the sense that I might say
"Let me give you an image of what happened last night at dinner." It is a
sensibility rather than a sense, and it has a degree of autonomy from my
psyche.
If these imaginal beings are not in my psyche, where are they? Scholar
Henry Corbin contributes a concept from Islamic mysticism, the mundus
imaginalis, which is an imaginal realm between the subjective and
objective. This realm is filled with imaginal beings, who may take the
shape of our own complexes in our dreams. We see, for example, our mother
in our dream, but its not our literal mother. Rather it is an imaginal
being that has taken on the look and act of our personal mother, attracted,
we might say, by our mother complex. (Corbin, 1969)
Corbin's placing of archetypal realities in the middle zone of reality
reveals the archetype as accessible to imagination first. First when it
presents itself as image and so the whole procedure of archetypal
psychology becomes imaginative, its tools rhetorical and poetic, its
reasoning beyond logic and it goal other than social adaptation or
traditional mental health. In terms of therapeutic work, the goal is to
restore the person to imaginal realities long since repressed by the
culture. That is, the aim is the development of a sense of soul as the
middle ground of reality, and the method of therapy is the cultivation of
imagination. (Archetypal Psychology)
This imaginal realm plays itself out in culture as well as our dreams. We
can see the state of our souls in the buildings and architecture of our
cities, in the parks and choices of cars, in the way we inhabit and
decorate our houses. (City as Dwelling, 1980) "Inner" is a way of seeing
these events more than something literally inside us or them. The depth
that we bring to an event has more to do with the way we encounter it than
something inherent held inside. To the degree that the world is just a
means to some other end, it will seem sterile and mechanical. To the degree
" we give it meaning, it will reveal to us its significance". (Avens,
1984). Soul, the deepening of events into experiences.
And so things get turned around in archetypal psychology. Reality is seen
as various perspectives, or in other words , as so much imagination.
Imagination takes on a new status of existing, and becomes reality. All our
ways of seeing are imaginal, even our attempts to see without and beyond
imagination. (Avens , 1980). It is a psychology that starts on the notion
of a poetic basis of mind rather than the brain, language, developmental
theory, social organization or behaviorism. Rather it starts with imagination.
Hillman traces the ancestral line of archetypal psychology leading back
from Carl Jung "through Freud, Dilthly, Coleridge, Schelling, Vico, Ficino,
Plotinus, and Plato to Heraclitus-and with even more branches which have
yet to be traced. Heraclitus lies near the roots of this ancestral tree of
thought, since he was the earliest to take psyche as his archetypal first
principle, to imagine soul in terms of flux and to speak of its depth
without measure." (Re-Visioning, xi)
From Heraclitus "You could not discover the limits of the soul (psyche) ,
even if you traveled every road to do so; such is the depth (bathum) of its
meaning (logos)" (Revisioning xi)
Like soul, the word 'archetype' is also difficult to define. Archetype
becomes more of a metaphor than a thing. Envisioning the basic structure of
the soul in an archetypal way shifts all discussion of it and all basic
questions of psychology to the realm of the imagination. Hillman maintains,
with Jung, that archetypes are the deepest patterns of the psychic
functioning. They govern our perspectives, our genres in literature, our
symptoms in psychopathology, our rituals and relations in
anthropology. But more important for archetypal psychology is not the
abstract structuring qualities of the archetype, but their "emotionally
possessive effect", the way they take over consciousness and bewitch it.
Note for example the daughter in who falls in love with a man who will ruin
her, but is totally blind to this though everyone else can see it. Or the
boss who has gained power and become taken over with power and can no
longer hear anyone else and has become blind to all who work below her/him.
Or the person driven to suicide, finding no other path, though if convinced
by others to wait a day, finds his whole mood changed.
And so, we see the archetype first in behavior (possession) we can see
the archetype in images (dreams, myths) and finally in a style of
consciousness or attitude, as in the heroic style of consciousness of
independence, strength, conquest and single-mindedness.
One almost always hears archetypal psychologists speak in terms or
archetypal rather than archetype. This emphasizes both the intensity of the
encounter as well as the plurality. That is, that archetypes are not
singled out for study, but impact us in multifaceted ways, and do so in a
manner that overwhelms the ego.
What does this all mean for dreamwork? At first, it may seem
unclear. One famous dreamworker who reviewed Hillman's Dreams and the
Underworld said of the book "the book talks about why we shouldn't do
dreamwork, then gives examples of how to do it."
And yet the process is really quite simple. Stick with the image. Instead
of elaborating, associating, interpreting, second guessing, finding links
to your life, just stick with the image. Just like meeting something or
someone you have never met before, though they may be wearing the clothes
and face of those familiar to you. And just like a friend, we don't get to
know them more deeply by interpreting them, but by grasping them as a whole
image, a whole being.
When the images are intolerable, this simple rule of sticking with the
image is more difficult. Even friendly images can be difficult to stick
with. Thus some theoretical background and context to the work as a whole
may be helpful in teaching us what to do and not do with our nocturnal guests.
Personification
As previously discussed, in archetypal psychology the human is not the only
being with a soul, and the soul we have is multiple. That is, there are
other things than our ego, our subject in the subject/object split, that
are allowed to be ensouled. This doesn't mean that every object is now seen
as being alive and having an independent consciousness. This would be what
is called a spiritualist fallacy, applying the project of soul in an
abstract manner of grids over all of reality. Instead, the rock may or may
not be currently inhabited. The building's soul may be revealing itself
one moment and not the next. And people with egos may act quite soulless.
We find out though giving the other meaning, and waiting to see if it
reveals its significance. We wait, we listen, we make time and room for
otherness.
At first this seems completely contrary to modern therapy and the notion
of re-owning one's projections. Typically the path of contemporary ego
integration is for the client to bring all these imaginations that are out
there on others into one's consciousness and be responsible for these
creations. We see this in the Gestalt dreamwork of looking at every piece
of the dream as oneself, as well as the dreamwork where every piece of the
dream brings with it a message or presentation that is related to our ego's
future self development.
Rather personifying is taken by archetypal psychology to be "the
spontaneous experiencing, envisioning and speaking of the configurations of
existence as psychic presences" (Re-Visioning, 12)
Some ways we may error in approaching an image.
1. Allegory. Allegory tends to provide a "lesson" and the personification
of gods and goddesses become simply illustrations of a principle. "Ah,
yes, this flower in the dream is the allegory of the rose and means thus
and such." Or worse, it picks up the positive side of an image or principle
or myth and shoves off the pathological side, which may be the part of the
image that hold the depth. "Allegory," write Hillman "is a defensive
reaction of the rational mind against the full power of the soul's
irrational personifying propensity" (Re-Visioning, 8).
2. Using words as signifieds. Just as one can impose a pre-existing theory
on a dream, one can also toss word-meanings at the image. Consider that
there are two approaches to the use of words, signifying and evoking. In
the first, the word is a sign, which we have learned points to a particular
concept. Couch, tree, cow. In modern language we have operationally
defined concepts of reason and we have words of belief. Between these two
there isn't much room to maneuver, and yet, this space in-between is
exactly the place of soul and imagination. Words in the between realm don't
signify something other than themselves, but evoke and themselves become
part of the event. This is also the realm of poetry. We can never tell
beforehand if the evoked will appear. It doesn't signify a stable concept.
3. Personification vs. personifying. The attribution of personified objects
outside the person has survived the death of God in contemporary society in
the forms of pathology and anthropology. We either talk about people
falsely attributing human characteristics to objects (anthropomorphizing)
or we talk about primitive people and animism, the attribution of living
souls to inanimate objects. To avoid this name-calling which assumes we
take something inside and project it outside, archetypal psychology uses
the word personifying, which assumes the existence of souls ~prior~ to our
reflecting upon them.
What's the point of all this poetic soul-making and personifying? Hillman
reminds us that the Greeks and Romans used to have psychic powers that they
worshiped, Insolence, Night, Ugliness, Timing, Hope, Mercy, Forgetfulness…
and when neglected, people fell sick, which is also what Jung never tired
of saying. The point, Hillman points out, is not to start up a new series
of cults, but to see this activity as cultural personifying. Finding these
images in our hearts and dreams and culture returns abstract thoughts and
dead matter to human shapes.
This leads us to a mythopoetic world view. In this view, myths are not
stories but personifications that draw one into contact with depth. The
mythic consciousness is able to engage a world that is animated with soul.
"where imagination reigns, personifying happens." (Re-Visoning, 17) or as
Jung put it "Image is psyche, the psyche consists essentially of images… a
picturing of vital activates" (CW 13 #58)
One of the consequences of this view is that we too, are imaginal being.
Naming with images and metaphors has an advantage over naming with
concepts, for personified namings never mere dead tools. (Re-Visioning, 32)
Hillman notes that personifying, whether it is done pathologically or
intentionally, functions to "save the diversity and autonomy of the psyche
from domination by any single power, whether this domination be by a figure
of archetypal awe in one's surroundings or by one's own egomania. '
(Re-Visioning, 32)
In some dreams, the various styles of presence are mirrored in a scene.
"these styles are embodied in persons who are embroiled with each other. "
(Re-Visioning, 32)
These personalities at night " infuse themselves into the attitudes that
dominate our daily lives. " (Re-Visioning, 32-33)
Dreams, then, for archetypal psychology hold a special place as they can
present an encounter that the waking ego may be unable to access with all
its waking defenses intact (in waking, they can still overwhelm us, but we
call them "symptoms.") That is, while dreaming we are aware of our status
as one of many autonomous, imaginal beings.
Thus archetypal psychology allows the image to work on us. There may not
even be a conclusion or goal. Imagination doesn't have to achieve or commit
to create. In fact, it works better through falling apart, coming to
pieces, separating rather than unifying, diversifying rather than
integrating, multiplying instead of hierarchical-izing.
In dreamwork, this requires moving towards and staying with the
intolerable, (Aizenstat, 2003) , the unusual, the alien. The images "must
be alien even while familiar, strangers even if lovers, uncanny although we
rely on them." (Re-Visioning, 41)
The myth of Eros and Psyche is taken seriously. It is through love one can
see the person in the imaginary and the imaginal layer that pervades all we
see. "every symptom or habit, fining place for it within the heart of
imagination, finding mythical person who is its supportive ground."
(Re-Visioning, 44)
Pathologizing
Why on earth would pathologizing be of use to archetypal psychology, or
anyone for that matter? To find that part of psyche which is most hidden
and alien to ego consciousness, there is no better place than in the sick,
suffering, abnormal and fantastic symptoms. What Hillman means by the
term is "the psyche's autonomous ability to create illness, morbidity,
disorder, abnormality, and suffering in any aspect of the its behavior and
to experience and imagine life through this deformed and afflicted
perspective. " (Re-Visioning, 57) Through the pathologizing activities of
the soul, archetypal psychology develops a psychological necessity. Once
this necessity if found, then pathologizing isn't right or wrong, but more
finds its place in the whole as necessary. That is, we begin to learn how
it is speaking and what it is saying. Part of this is seeing the
pathological as primary and inherent in all psychic events rather than
speaking of "abnormal psychology" which splits the psyche into artificial
parts, health and illness, sin and redemption.
There are three ways that we often avoid allowing space for the
pathological psyche.
The first is by careful naming and labeling, as mentioned above. This
accurate sketch of symptoms, their onset, their course, the expected
outcome, all expose a secret power dynamic to make them sensible and deny
their irascible essence.
The second way of avoiding the psyche's true pathology is by shifting the
insanity from the individual to the society, but in the end maintains the
division. The importance of phenomenological/existential schools in
exposing the insanity of culture and offering us authentic choices and
alternatives is surely to be acknowledged, but as a full view of psyche
they just becomes one-sided and nihilistic.
The third way to avoid pathology is with sugary humanism, which tries to
stay above it all, focusing on the higher virtues of mankind, its health,
hope, self-transcendent warmth and love and courage. But by turning away
from the psyche's pathologizing, they turn away from its full richness and
depth.
As a larger picture, we can look at the Neo-platonic model to see how there
is often a struggle and confusion between spirit and soul mentioned above
in the placement of psyche/soul ~between~ spirit and concrete
matter. However, in our culture both are often folded into spirit and
spirit dominates in the realm of the abstract and ideal. That is, we turn
psychopathology into a material thing to be cured by medicine or a
spiritual thing to be worshiped or ennobled. When does it get its own realm?
How does one go with pathology then? Hillman suggests we expand Jung's
phrase "dreaming the dream onward" to include "pathologizing the myth
onward." This means trying to find a way to stick with the mess. This
means finding imaginal methods and allowing the madness to teach us the
method. "We do not decrease their value by considering them as signs of
medical sickness or inflate their value by considering them as signs of
spiritual suffering. They are ways of the psyche and ways of finding soul."
(Re-Visioning, 75)
In dreamwork, for example, the way to stay with an image is first to not
set its value in terms of literal nature. So often the twisted, turned,
bent and out of shape scenes are seen as problems while idyllic scenes are
taken as sign of our equilibrium and health. The more nature the more
positive, the more distorted, the more negative. "By employing the dream
as model of psychic actuality, and by conceiving a theory of personality
based upon the dream, we are imagining the psyche's basic structure to be
an inscape of personified images. The full consequences of this structure
imply that the psyche presents its own imaginal dimensions, operates freely
without words, and is constituted of multiple personalities."
(Re-Visioning, 33)
Psychologizing or Seeing Through
Psychologizing is seen as the soul's root and native activity. The first
activity is reflection. This is not a passive reflection, but seeing
reflection in all activity and behavior. Though not all ideas are
necessarily worthy of soul making, Hillman writes "By psychological ideas,
I mean those that engender the soul's reflection upon its nature,
structure, and purpose. " (Re-Visioning, 117) As a general guide, the
process is one of de-literalizing, of moving into the metaphorical, of
gathering up the overtones and after tones that get cut off when we speak
literally.
It may be easier to talk about these ideas as archetypes, the soul's
relation with death, with body, the world, other souls, love, beauty,
sickness, family, ancestors, power, history, time. It is there
relationship to psyche that makes them archetypal and keeps them connected
with soul. The souls that can't find and generate ideas become lost,
hollow, lacking in imagination. What a radical idea it would be to see a
dream a day as its own idea, its own new world perspective, its own school
of philosophy. The psyche expresses itself in these ideas. In this
sense, psychologizing means seeing through the view presented by the
psyche, putting on its eyes and looking through its eyes, as well as seeing
from what archetypal fantasy this view is coming from. This turning of
ideas back upon themselves is a way we come to know the frames of our
consciousness and the prisons of our mind.
"Through psychologizing I change the idea of any literal action at
all-political, scientific, personal-into a metaphorical enactment…. I
recognize that though my ideas I apprehend and am apprehended by my inmost
subjectivity, entering all actions in the role of an idea" (Re-Visioning,
127)
In other words, by placing the scene we are in within the stage of
psychological powers (perspectives, gods, archetypes) we create a space for
the introduction or re-introduction of the imaginal. When this task is
neglected, there is no less fantasy, but the fantasy is dominated by single
views. If I am at a board of directors meeting and unable to place my
position within a larger imaginal field, I am likely to be caught up in the
egoic dramas, the continual power plays, the continual need to be heard.
Allowing for a more polytheistic placement, seeing that a wider variety of
perspectives and imps and ideas and demons are at play, the board meeting
can open up from its monotheistic bottom line or need for progress and take
on the larger goals of, say for example, unfolding the complexities of the
mission statement of the organization and recognizing the development of
relations that can bring in novelty and innovation. This will be as true
for the board meeting in the waking world as the board meeting in my dream.
So, in psychologizing, we look for the fantasy that is dominant in a time
or space. There is no specific procedure for this. It may be through an
historical examination of underlying causes, it may be a semiological
analysis, it may be a philosophical debate. It may be through humor or art
or love. But again, the process is one of de-literaling. Some mistakes we
make in trying to hear metaphor include:
1. Abstract Liternalness. Theology and metaphysical often take as literal
the most abstract of concepts. In this way they speak about soul, but are
really avoiding soul in talk about redemption, truth, and ideals.
2. Body Liternalness. The body is always concrete, but not literal. The
body engages in a wide variety of tasks which are concrete but not just
literal, such as eating, dancing, copulating, fighting, running.
Steps in seeing-through
a. Psychologizing. What is going on here? What is this moment in my life
and as I bring some reflective time into the moment, what becomes clear?
This process may itself be infinitely deep. Once moment of clarity leading
to the next darkness.
b. Deus abscounditus: As we begin to acknowledge the full depth of the
encounter, we find ourselves guided by that something which always remains
unknown, a hidden god. "who appears only in concealment" Re-Visioning, 140)
and justifies the whole process.
c. Narration: as we elaborate the phenomena before us, we make a tale of
it, and in telling this tale what is before us transforms. All explanations
can be considered narratives and placed mythologically.
d. Ideas as tools: The way it all moves is through ideas, and these are
then the eyes of the soul, the way it sees.
In conclusion, what kind of general world-view is archetypal psychology
offering? Stephen Aizenstat suggests that the move if from the Collective
Unconscious to the World Unconscious.. This view includes the psychic
reality of all phenomena as they manifest in the world. "The world
unconscious is a deeper and wider dimension of the psyche than that of the
personal or the collective unconscious. In the realm of the world
unconscious, all creatures and things of the world are understood at
interrelated and interconnected" (Aizenstat, 1995, 96)
This view deeply acknowledges the imaginal realm in life and attempts to
restore it value in our culture. The result is an re-animated world of
autonomous beings. But while these beings may not need us, we need
them. "Images, like myth, are necessary for the enchantment of the soul,
said Plato. There is nothing more ultimate than that-enchantment, eternal
delight in coming and going, in ascending and descending on Jacob's ladder.
The Event events, Imagination imagines. " (Avens, 1984)
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670-001
Subject: There has to be something to this
Last night I dreamt that a rattle snake was giving birth in my front yard.
How I knew this Im not sure but I could hear the rattling and could tell
that the snake was in pain. (Im terrified of snakes). I called animal
control and spoke with a man who told me that they had been having a lot of
problems with the rattle snake population in my area. He assured me that
some one was on there way with a dart gun. While I was on the phone a goat
came out of no where and ramed right into me with incredible force, of
course this woke me. So what do you guys think? Is this sexual? LOL. Cant
wait to hear your comments.
Comments:
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Message: 671-001
Subject: should i sleep with my best friend?
my best friend is a guy, and we have been best friends for 5 yrs now. I
feel very close to him, possibly in love with him, and i think about him a
lot. Now more and more i am having dreams about him, very vivid ones about
being his girlfriend, and kissing him, and feeling very very close to him.
One week i had five dreams about him five nights in a row, like holding his
hands in the dream, and snuggling with him, and kissing him, and eventually
him leading me to his bed room. I'm not sure if this is my inner conscience
telling me how i feel about him and what i should do, or if its just a
bunch of dreams.......what should i do.....if anyone has ANY idea, please
PLEASE let me know!!!!!
Comments: 671-001,
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Message: 671-002 [671-001]
Subject: RE: should i sleep with my best friend?
Dear Chilliblonde241,
I think these dreams are definitely telling you your deep feelings about
this man. If you are best friends, you should be able to tell him about
your dreams and see what he thinks - who knows - maybe he feels the same way??
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Message: 671-003 [670-001]
Subject: Re: There has to be something to this
Hi Reneeb
This is an interesting dream ˆ some would call it a nightmare. The
contradiction of your fear of the rattlesnake, and the concern for its
welfare are devises the subconscious uses to bring you out of deep sleep
when there is an immediate problem in your sleep a sudden pain, in this
case probably a cramp near the pelvis. When you are near to consciousness
the dream wakes you without disorientation. In your case the goat delivers
the coup-de-grace to your sleep, not
without a sense of humour! If you felt sexually aroused after the dream,
then there must have
been a sexual motive for the dream.
Cheers H
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Message: 672-001
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Message: 673-001
Subject: I had sex in the art toilets with my male teacher
dream_title: i had sex in the art toilets with my male teacher
dream_date: 30/06/03
dreamer_name: tazyb
dream_text: i was in an art class with my teacher mr rose when he called me
over to talk to me about my work, he wispered in my ear "go to the toilets
and ill meet you there" so i did, everyone was looking at me. mr rose
joined me in the art toinlets and we had sex then i woke up shortly after
dream_comments: although i left school a year ago and my teacher has moved
away i still have a picture of him on my keyring i havent thaught about him
for ages and all of a suden i had a dream about him. i used to have a
similar dream where we would get locked in the english toilets and then
have sex its wierd i know. please can you tell me what it means my e-mail is
tazy85b@... thankyou
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Message: 674-001
Subject: The Back, Back, Back Yard
dream_title: The Back, Back, Back Yard
dream_date: 4/18/2003
dreamer_name: dreambat
dream_text: My mother had died and the garden in the back, back, back
yard is gone as well. At first I am alone in that back yard which touches
the alley. There is a lot of stuff here in the empty garden, including a
bed. I think to myself what a nice thing it is to have a bed here, what a
lovely view. But then I become concerned about how the bed will fare in bad
weather.
A man comes along I see in the dream as a vagrant, and I am concerned he
will stop and spoil the bed as well. I notice the large bone-charcoal
pieces, some a quarter the size of the garden itself. they are what is left
of the dead garden. I am very sad that this is the only land left in my
family. My wife, Sierra, and I discuss moving the house out here for the
view. But the view isn't a nice as it was. We see from the now very large
charcoal hill many paths and streets below and many people busily going
about their business. I tell Sierra, "When I was young, one could work all
day in the garden without a person coming by."
Then I am with my grandmother Lenna and the charcoal hill we are on is
the remains of my dead mother. We discuss how we are going to mourn her
and what to do with the yard and remains
Upon waking I feel the scene quite gruesome, but there wasn't any of this
in the dream itself.
dream_comments: I worked as a child for my grandmother in her large garden.
I always thought of it as labor and toil, though I recognized she loved
ever minute of the work. The garden was separated and behind the back
yard, and even behind an in-between back yard.
comments:
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Message: 675-001
Subject: Singing to the Whales
dream_title: Singing to the Whales
dreamer_name: Michael M
dream_text:
I have gone down the stairs into the basement. It is fairly dark. There are
only one or two lights on. I notice that there are many other lights, but
that they need new bulbs. Back by the stairs, I see a shelf that has boxes
of bulbs. These are very special bulbs--shaped cylindrically at top and
bottom with a larger radius bulge in the middle. I get some and begin to
change out bulbs. I can reach them by standing on tip toe. The room gets
lighter and I can see more of it. There is a large furnace at one end
toward the back-center and I go around it and change a bulb in the corner
so that light even gets there. I go back across to a workbench area and see
a two by four that goes above the top of the bench on the wall. I think
that would be a good place to install more lights. Directly above me I see
a bulb that's out and screw it out of the socket. Someone had screwed it
into a broken light bulb which was still in the socket. I take the glass in
my hands and unscrew this one. It comes out, but the two wires are hanging
there loose. I
worry that they'll come in contact. I somehow get them out. I take them
over to a table and set them down. They still accidentally come close to
contact. I set them on a wet cloth which worries me a little. I think Matt
(my oldest son in waking life) is good with electrical stuff and he can fix
it now. I am pretty happy with the basement now. At this point I realize
the basement is my unconscious and that I have brought some of it into
consciousness. I then become aware that there are other rooms that lead off
of here. One leads on outside I think. It is by the workbench. I can just
see outside in spaces between boards. Another is in the rear of the room. I
think these must be where my unconscious is. I open the door in the back of
the room. It is dark and looks just like the coal room in my house in
Bloomington. (I lived there as a youth in Illinois in waking life). I can
see a mound of dirt to my right (actually was there in waking life). It
goes upward all the way to the wall. It is very dark over there. At the top
is a rectangular window. To the left of the window I can see a dark green
water heater. A man
is leaning in the window and is going to light it. I'm afraid it might blow
up. I wonder what someone is doing in my house. He says he belongs there,
that he is not from outside. I hide behind the door for a moment, but it
doesn't blow up. When I look again the man is gone and the window (which
was empty before) now has an opaque, wavy pane in it. I think its religion the
way I knew it before. A loud NO! comes into my head. I throw a roll of
toilet paper at the window, but it just bounces off. As I watch, the window
shatters and a white dog/wolf breaks through and runs down to me. He has
short curly white hair that is very soft. I am on my knees. I hug and kiss
the dog/wolf. Then I see a grey cat come through the window. It comes down
beside me also and walks in front of me. I see a nipple on a long strand on
its right side and think I should suck on it. I am not sure that would be
right and worry about thinking this. The cat lies down and I am impressed
that it gets along with the dog. I look up at the window again and can now
see stars. As I look, and am still holding the dog, I feel that I need to
sing to the whales. My singing is very important for whale marriage and I
am somehow connected to them by the stars. The stars are very unusual. They
are large and moving. I sing and feel very close to the whales. I also feel
that the whales are waiting for us to sing to them. I feel that this is
essential to allowing a spiritual marriage between our species to take place.
dream_comments: Whale dreams are one of my dream motifs. I have more than
30 of them. I have a number of categories of motif dreams, but if there
were such a thing as "number‰ motif dreams, those would be far and away the
largest category of all for me. The "Singing to the Whales‰ dream is one
of 3 "big dreams‰ in my life and led to a whole series of quite amazing
synchronicities. For example, I have found that the connection between
whales and stars is archetypal and is known to native peoples!
comments:
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Message: 675-002
Subject: Lucid Near Heaven
"Lucid Near Heaven" - April 28, 2003
I am aware that I am dreaming (Lucid). There is a group of people next to
me and I ask them if they want to go with me to heaven. I have everyone
hold hands, some on my left and some on my right. There is a young boy on
my right and I hold his hand. It is Robert (my recently deceased brother).
I inform everyone that the journey will not be easy. It will get very cold
at times but I will ask to make it warm. We leave and we are flying high
over cities. Some people drop off on the way because they don't want to
take the journey. I stop and there are only 3 of us left, a woman on my
left and the little boy on my right. I look back and the boy is resting and
crying, he
says he can't make it, it is very cold yet he really wants to go to heaven
yet he seems scared. I told him that he can make it, I am very calm but I
have to keep telling myself that I am dreaming so that I don't loose
flight. Then I take the little boy's hand (the woman is now gone on my
left) and we take off again, I am concentrating to make it warm. Ahead I
see a beautiful
white city with a glow of the sun. I look to my left and a fish which is 10
times our size is slowly coming upon us and is looking at us as if to say,
I am watching over you and I guard heaven. The fish is outlined in black
with black eyes and scales, the rest of the body is white. I think to
myself, WOW wait until I tell people about this awesome
dream.
Elizlyn@...
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Message: 675-003
Subject: Hands
dream_title: Hands
dream_date: 07/23/03
dreamer_name: Phoenix
dream_text: About 3:00 am I woke up but before I opened my eyes I saw many
color astrological signs coming towards me. A little window opened up in
the middle and it had pictures of many fingered dark hands.
dream_comments: This dream was very, very vivid
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Message: 675-004
Subject: DNA
dream_title: DNA
dream_date: Monday, November 19, 2001
dreamer_name: rannva
dream_text: I am in a room or situation and all of a sudden I am flying or
falling in a reality where I can see a DNA double helix. The helix is
flattened out and it has the shape of a Moebus strip. It is immense and I
am very small compared to this structure or phenomenon. I am floating in
this space around the information of DNA. I can see the codes for A, T, G,
and C
imprinted on the strips. This is an extremely profound moment for me. I am
surrounded by this wealth of information and am not sure what it means to
me and what I should do with it. As I approach the edge of the strip and
grab hold of it. I see numbers on the white background. I hold on to the
part where the number is something between 15-19. I see it very clearly. The
strip stretches out a little as I tug on it as if to anchor myself in this
nothingness. I look down below me and this information strip continues and
moves around far beneath me and there is nothing else in this space. Only
this information. I feel as if I have entered a secret space in reality, a
hidden place, and I wonder what I should do with it. It is both frightening
and fascinating and I am nearly aware that I am dreaming. I wake up, check
that I am awake, but I have trouble staying awake. I drift back into this
reality for a while until I force myself to wake up.
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Message: 675-005
Subject: Me and my boyfriend
dream_title: me and my boyfreind
dream_date: 7-20-03
dreamer_name: bob
dream_text: i had this dream that my boyfreind and i broke up. in real life
everything between us is going fine. but in my dream he broke up with me
and kissed me goodbye. i dont get what this means!!!???
dream_comments: please help me! can you tell me what this dream means?
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