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"Whether one is aware of it or not, the inner-worlds are there; they are
powerful, and are only ignored on peril of becoming disillusioned with
life."
-- Gordon Onslow Ford



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Volume #10 Issue #12

December 2003

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C O N T E N T S

++ Editor's Notes


++ News: ASD Copenhagen 2004 Registration
Obituary: Gordon Onslow Ford
Research requests, Web updates, and more!

++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
Lucy Gillis

++ Article: I Ching, Tarot, Star+Gate And Dreams
Linda Lane Magallón

++ Column: A View from the Bridge
Jean Campbell

++ Column: The Waves: 08. Psychedelic Dreaming
Nick Cumbo

++ Article: Dream Blog on Dream Dreams
Ian Campbell

++ Dream: Child of Darkness
Stan Kulikowski II

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++ DREAM SECTION: Dreams from November, 2003
Host: Elizabeth Westlake

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December 17th deadline for January 2004 submissions
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Post Dreams and Comments on Dreams to:
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple

Send Dreaming News and Calendar Events to:
Peggy Coats <web@...>

Send Articles and Subscription concerns to:
Richard Wilkerson: <rcwilk@...>


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Welcome to the December 2003 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to dreams
and dreaming online.

If you are new to dreams and dreaming, please join us on
dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the resources you
need. To join send an e to
dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

...or if you are interested in sharing dreams for world peace, please join
the World Dreams Peace Bridge http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org


Please note in the News section a note on the death of a dream inspired
artist, Gordon Onslow Ford. Dreamwork owes much to the Surrealists.

The Association for the Study of Dreams has many projects active right now,
including a pledge drive, online auctions, preparation and registration for
the international conference next year in Copenhagen and regional activity
as well. We don't always cover the full range of their activities, so you
may want to sign up for their free e-mail newsletter at
asd-enews-subscribe@yahoogroups.com


Lucy Gillis has brought Electric Dreams readers a wide variety of lucid
dream experiences that have delved deeply into the topic. This month she is
including an except from Lucid Dream Exchange by Katie, who will be
reviewing a lucid dream related book by Olga Kharitidi, the "Master of Lucid
Dreams." Is this a true encounter with a master or a tale spun in the long
Slavic Winter? Be sure to read the review and find out.


How can various divinatory systems be used in conjunction to explore dreams?
Linda Lane Magallón, author of _Mutual Dreaming_, asks this question and
explores the significance of some of the answers in "I Ching, Tarot,
Star+Gate And Dreams."


Jean Campbell's "The View from the Bridge"(The World Dreams Peace Bridge)
is a wonderful example of how a dream sharing community can impact a nation,
a world, a universe. Jean says, "For anyone who doubts that people dream
together, and that possibly we are dreaming the world into existence, the
collected dreams from this month on the Peace Bridge can be viewed as a
study in collective consciousness. Filled with astronomical phenomena,
November has been a busy month of dreams, culminating in the DaFuMu dreaming
for the people of Istanbul. I have appended a collection of the Istanbul
dreams at the end of this article, but at least a brief commentary on other
events of the month seems important as well."


Nick Cumbo newsletter and column reports on the explorations of the Sea Life
community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims to bring
together a circle of dreamers from around the globe, collaborating in
dreaming adventures, and 'dreaming with and for the earth itself.'
This moon, the people at Sea Life, completed a 'Psychedelic Dreaming'
project, in which explored the possibility of taking psychedelics within a
dream, and if so what effects the experience might have.

In Ian Campbell's dream journal records dreams he believe are preparing him
for death. What? Yes, and this links into the dreams he had before his
parent's death as well. Ian has started a dream blog on this topic and
invites you to join him. Read "Dream Blog on Dream Dreams."

Stan Kulikowski II returns this month with a Thanksgiving dream, Child of
Darkness.

Our Global Dreaming News will bring you up to date on the events in dreams
and dreaming. Send Peggy news items at web@...

Our Dream Section is edited by Elizabeth Westlake.
If you have dreams you want published enter them anonymously in the form at
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple
Or you can put them in the dream flow directly by subscribing to:
dream-flow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

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For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to stop by one
of the many resources:
http://www.dreamtree.com
http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library
Electric Dreams in PDF: (thanks to Nick Cumbo)
http://www.dreamofpeace.net/community/electricdreams/

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Happy Holidays, see you next year!

-Richard Wilkerson

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If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats,
web@.... Visit Global Dreaming News online at
http://www.dreamtree.com/


This Month's Features:

NEWS

-- ASD Copenhagen Conference: Registration Opens
-- ASD Regional Meeting 2004 Jan: Atlanta
-- Dreamwork in Taiwan - William R. Stimson
-- Gordon Onslow Ford Dies
-- The Primordial Dream Plane Project
-- Healing Quest features work of Patricia Garfield
-- New Robert Moss Video Series

RESEARCH REQUESTS

-- Mutual Dreaming Experiment - Bjo Ashwill
-- Survey: How to apply dreamwork? Bitsy Broughton
-- Computer Dream Survey - Richard Wilkerson

WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES

-- ASD updating Links - You can help
-- Dream Inspired Art Gallery - ASD 2003
-- Bag O' Dreams - Dream Exploration Software
-- Alchera designer Harry Bosma's new site


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>>>> ASD Copenhagen Conference: Registration Opens

Plan to attend ASD'S 2004 CONFERENCE IN COPENHAGEN DENMARK, June 18-22, 2004
and check out the eye-pleasing 2004 conference page and learn about the
conference, Copenhagen, and much more. http://asdreams.org/2004

Note: 2004 CALL FOR PAPERS DEADLINE CHANGED TO DECEMBER 31, 2003: Read and
Heed the Call and Send it to Colleagues: Here is a link for the 2004 ASD
CONFERENCE IN COPENHAGEN: CALL FOR SUBMISSION:
http://www.asdreams.org/2004/idx_call_for_presentations.htm



Please prepare your submission and please forward this notice to other
colleagues.



>>>> ASD ATLANTA REGIONAL MEETING: January 31, 2004

DISCOVERING THE MEANING OF YOUR DREAMS
Emory University, Atlanta, GA

Join experts from the International Association for the Study of Dreams to
learn how dreams can inspire and improve your life--and provide answers to
personal and professional problems. Awaken to the wisdom of dreams through
lectures, participatory exercises, and dream sharing.

Go to www. ASDreams.org for info re: S.E. Regional Conference.
Bring bag lunch and your dreams!! (Drinks provided)
$75 or $60 for students (with ID) or ASD members (go to www.ASdreams.org to
join)


Instructors: David Gordon, Ph.D., Founder of The Dream Institute, Norfolk,
VA; Robert Hoss, MS, Phoenix, Arizona, President-Association for the Study
of Dreams; Justina Lasley, MA, Charleston, SC, Dream consultant and group
leader trainer; Tallulah Lyons, MEd, Atlanta, GA, Dream worker and author.

>>>> Dreamwork in Taiwan - William R. Stimson


Dr. William R. Stimson left academia and opted for a life of radical
simplicity centering on meditation, martial arts, yoga, dream analysis and
writing. He is the founder and former editor of the Dream Network Journal
and led evening dream groups in Manhattan. For years he conducted the free
all-day meditation group every Saturday at the Ch'an Meditation Center in
Elmhurst, Queens. His writing has appeared in numerous journals and
magazines.

He currently lives in Taiwan where he is devoting himself to writing.

This exciting group uses state-of-the-art methods for exploring dreams in a
collective setting. Facilitated by a Ph.D. personally trained by Montague
Ullman, M.D., who originated the approach in Sweden. From beginning to end,
the dreamer controls the process.

Department of Social Work
Chaoyang University of Technology
Wufeng, Taichung County
EXPERIENTIAL DREAM WORKSHOP
Led by Dr. William R. Stimson and Dr. Shuyuan Wang
Four consecutive Saturdays - In English - Enrollment limited to 12 - No
charge

From the Website:

Why dreams?

To bring out the intelligence, feeling and sensitivity trapped inside, that
you don't even know you have. To connect with your deepest genius, your
highest potential, your true nature. To live a life in which you are really
you and not someone others have wanted you to be. Thereby, to become a
wholly-integrated person.

What is an experiential workshop?

This is a process of dream work developed by Dr. Montague Ullman in Sweden.
In this method no outside conceptual framework, be it Freudian, Jungian or
other, is imposed upon the images of a dream. Rather the concepts necessary
for their interpretation are brought out from inside the dream itself by a
group dynamic that is intellectually challenging but also playful, creative
and fun. Expect laughter, tears, excitement and much learning about the
genius of the human mind. This is the first time this work has ever been
brought to Taiwan.


For information on Dream workshops in Taiwan:
http://www.my-hope.com/Bill/



>>>> Gordon Onslow Ford Dies

A dream inspired painter, Gordon Onslow Ford, died at the age of 90 from a
stroke at his home and studio in California. Ford was the last of the
original Surrealists group formed around Andre Breton in Paris.

His foundation, the Lucid Art Foundation, continues under the co-founder and
director, Fariba Bogzaran, who is herself a long time artist and
psychospiritual dream supporter, having developed many dream arts programs
with the Association for the Study of Dreams and having produced the first
Dream Certification program at a University (JFK).

Bogzaran's online biography of Gordon Onslow Ford relates how Ford, born in
England in 1912, found his way to the Paris of the 1930's and fell in with
Matta and Andre Breton, who were already evolving the Surrealist Movement.

Bogzaran writes:

"As a Surrealist, Onslow Ford was initially interested in dreams; recording
and making sketches of his own dream experiences. Early on, however, it
became apparent to him that it was impossible to paint dreams and that the
rendering of the dream image was merely a copy of a past event. Unlike many
Surrealists who were interested in Freud's theory of dreams, Onslow Ford
gravitated toward Carl Jung's idea of the Collective Unconscious and
Ouspenski's theory of the Fourth Dimension. His artistic passion aimed
toward expressing what lies beyond the personal in dreams."


From his book _Creations_ Ford writes "The ideal way in which to express a
dream would be to get it down as it happens, unfortunately, this is not
possible as a dream image appears in the mind faster than it can be painted.
" (pg. 35)

Ford continued to valorize dreaming, not the visible dream that was taken as
a representative of life, but the pre-representational dreaming, the world
barely accessible to consciousness, yet upon which consciousness rests.
Like his Surrealist friends, he is suspicious of given forms and seeks to
break through them to world beyond.

"Some dreams are messages from the depths in symbolic language, but how rare
is it in dreams to catch an inkling of what the inner-worlds are really
like! But I am sure that I visit the inner-worlds every night while asleep -
as I recognize what appears spontaneously in my paintings and am led on with
a sure sense of direction." _Creation_ (pg 63)

Access to the inner-worlds is not direct, but through "involution" where
awareness is based on the known, but moves towards the unknown. Ford refers
to this place as "...the worlds within worlds that move from the surface
between the conscious and the unconscious towards the depths of the
unconscious." (_Creations_ pg 75)

And Ford's work expresses these values.

In his paintings the primary elements of |O· (line - circle - dot) move away
from representational marks to spontaneously expressed space-matter in time.
The known world seems to both speed up and slow down at the same time as it
becomes rotations, intensity and speed. "|O· is a trinity in which every
element, be it line, circle or dot can be made at the highest possible speed
with full attention. " (Creation pg 82)

These revelations developed over time. Bogzaran reports that Ford came to
the America's in the 1940's, and after some time in Mexico developing
post-surrealist trends, he came to the Bay area in California where he was
influenced by Haridas Chaudhuri's Hinduism and Alan Watts Zen-Buddhism.
These ideas particularly found expression in calligraphy. Each step brought
out new ways to express the inner-world.

"When the painter first glimpses the Muse in another person or in dreams,
she is illusive and unattainable, but through persistent devotion, he finds
ways to come closer." (Creation, pg. 64)

Ford never left the Bay Area and through the decades produced a wide variety
of paintings, artist's communities, texts and exhibits that testify to the
profundity of his vision.

The Lucid Art Foundation continues to support a direction in art that
expresses the "quest of the Inner-worlds."

www.lucidart.org

Report by Richard Wilkerson, based upon the following materials:

Bogzaran, Fariba (2003). Gordon Onslow Ford: Biography
http://www.onslowford.com/biography/index.htm

Ford, Gordon Onslow (1978). Creation. Rittergasse, Basel: Galerie Schreiner
AG

Please see the Gordon Onslow Ford show online at
http://www.onslowford.com
or more directly at:
http://tinyurl.com/wqms

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>>>> The Primordial Project - Seeking Volunteers in DreamTime
in 2004 and 2005.


Dear Dreamers, Light Workers and Healers

I am starting a Dreaming Project on the Dream Plane. I have finished my
studies and am ready to begin. My 7-year cycle that has ended, after my
awakening and self-healing begins a new 7 year cycle. I am grateful for the
continuing guidance in my work by teachers, friends, relatives, studentst,
God/desses and Ascended Beings.

THE PROJECT AND PURPOSE:
To energetically begin to remove blocked energy and clear, purify, bless and
set compassion and love 'intention' of 9 specific Ancient Temples on the
'Curved' matrix line across the Earth. [Most are familiar with the 'Linear'
Grid Matrix Line of the Ancient Pyramids around the globe but these are not
the Temples.] This work will begin to open Portals to remove Old Systems of
Duality [Pyramidal Societies] and begin to open Wholeness of the Cycular or
feminine energy and the New Systems of the coming Egalitarian Societies. The
list of Temples were given directly to me through the Ancient Antlantian
Thoth [Djewty], as he now passes the Ancient Sword of the Sacred Masculine
to the Sacred Feminine within all of us.

VOLUNTEERS:
I am seeking those who can work in DreamTime at night or during the day.
Those who are experienced with Energetic Healing, Energetic Space Clearing
in the physical realms, those working with transformational Water Healing,
Sound Healers and/or those experienced with Psychopomps. If you are an
advanced Dreamer without these backgrounds, you will be considered with your
particular gifts of the ability to hold sacred space. These requirements
above are not absolutes. Any work including Shamanism, Feng Shui, Reiki
Master/Practitioner, Pranic Healing, Cranio-Sacral etc. is also helpful.

The volunteer must not be associated to just one singular religion or
indigenous path, but a Rainbow person who accepts and embraces all teachings
and ancient teachings. Understanding of Lunar Alchemy or systems beyond
basic Mayan principles and use the Lunar energy as guidance is helpful but
not mandatory. Deeply Spiritual practices of Meditatation, Yoga, Prayer,
Intent or Affirmation work also helpful if these are your particular path.
Global Reverence of Love as the Divine Energy Foundation.

PROJECT SCHEDULE:
I am setting up a Schedule to visit 9 particular Temples in 2004 and 2005 on
the Dream Plane in a repeated series of Healing Visits. Your work can be
done at night in the Night Dream or Shamanically in the Day or in the Day
Dream Awake (if you are at advanced level). Please write me personally and I
will begin a list of 'dedicated' volunteers and keep in contact with you as
I progress with the final schedule. If you are called to this project, I
seek only dedicated, serious and committed follow through the long haul
types of volunteers, who have moved into action.

FACILITATORS PERSONAL NOTE:

I HAVE LEARNED from my personal healing journey that: Peace on Earth begins
with reaching great states of Inner Peace and self -acceptance of both
personal Light and Dark Nature, and working towards wholeness with great
dedication daily; Secondly awakening to personal illusion, denials, self
suffering or victim consciousness; Third, into personal shadow work and
integrating darkness [creation] rather than rejecting it to re-balance the
chakra system for wholeness of masculine and feminine energy within and
lastly Core Fear Issues that arise to push through conscious levels into the
unconscious with awareness for depths of personal Clarity and Discernment.
An Awakening to the Logical and Reasoning Minds Limitation. Compassion and
Wisdom teachings with an integration of the Spirit of Nature within and in
the physical world of Fire, Earth, Water, and Air and their Archetypes and
an awakening or understanding of Mother Nature herself as she comes alive as
a living and breathing spiritual energy. Energy Systems within to merge as
Co-creator in the Matrix of the Unified Fields and self-connectedness to the
All [Cosmic Mother Energy].

Blessings Mary Novak
13 Star Nation Shaman
http://www.LilithSophia.com



>>> Healing Quest features work of Patricia Garfield
Patricia Garfield's work on Healing Dreams is featured in episode 13 of a
new PBS series called "Healing Quest". In the San Francisco Bay Area, it's
airing on KCSM, Channel 60, Sundays, 5:00 p.m. and KRCB, Channel 22,
Mondays, 10:30 a.m. For more information, visit the website at:
www.healingquest.tv.


>>>> New Robert Moss Video Series

The Way of the Dreamer, With Robert Moss
www.psycheproductions.net

First two titles in the new video series released:

Dreaming a Life with Robert Moss
The Power of Active Dreaming

$19.95/each
Web-offer- Both for $36.95
www.psycheproductions.net
or call 203/877/9317

More Moss at mossdreams.com





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>>> Mutual Dreaming Experiment - Bjo Ashwill

A call for participants in a research dream project. I am looking for people
who are either

1. Attended and participated in the PsiDreaming online conference, or

2. People who are NON psi dreamers or

3. People who consider themselves psi dreamers and didn't happen to be a
part of the conference.

The purpose of this research project (Intentionally As An Important Factor
In Mutual Dreaming Similarities) is to attempt to show that having the
intention of dreaming mutually will cause more frequent similarities in
dream elements among the mutual dreamers. I also need people who do not do
mutual dreaming as a control group.

The process will be as follows:

A computer program called DreamSpinner will be used to input all the dreams
submitted to this project. This program uses the words in the narrative
(dream report) to create frequency lists of all elements in the dream
report. One data processor, Bjo Ashwill, will maintain reliable consistency
in her method of linking each word in the narrative to the appropriate
categories in the program. (An expanded version of the Hall/van de Castle
content analysis categories.)

Four different groupings of dreams will be kept in separate databases in
DreamSpinner to be able to compare these different groupings with each
other.

First grouping will be dreams that occurred during a mutual dream contest
with full intentionally in place (Dreams from 2 different contests 2002 and
2003 will be used, 9/26/02 and 9/25/03)

Second grouping will be dreams from those same mutual dreamers but from
dates chosen randomly in the past so no mutuality intention was present.
(Assuming no precog time warp!) (April 4, 2003 and July 15, 2003.)

Third is a control group of dreamers who do not necessarily consider
themselves psi dreamers who will present dreams from the following nights.
9/25/03, 7/15/03, 4/4/03 and 9/26/02. You do not have to have dreams on all
four nights to qualify, just send the dreams on the nights you did have
dreams.

The fourth group of folks didn't have dreams on those four nights, so you
may send in any dreams of your choosing from 9/25/02 through now. For those
of you who had dreams on one or two of those nights you may choose dreams at
any date of your choosing from 9/25/03 through now in addition to the ones
on the chosen dates.


I would like three things from each of you willing to participate.

1. The Dreams:
Your dreams for the nights of 9/25/03, 7/15/03, 4/4/03 and 9/26/02. Or if
you do not have dreams on these nights, send dreams of your choosing from
9/2/02 through now.

(I ask you to reexamine your dream report with complete details in mind.
Fill in all those missing details we take for granted when we write our
regular dream reports. Add colors, shapes, materials, structural details.
The fact that I don't know you personally and I will be inputting the
information into a computer program means that only the details you write in
the report will be examined. Do not assume I will know the shape of your
table or any other object.(square, round, oval etc.) Label the characters
with age (adult, child, baby or teen), sex (male or female or blended),
numbers of them (group or individual), and identity (relation? Friend?
Husband or wife or child? Occupational, Famous or prominent?) Colors,
shapes, sounds, feelings need to have descriptive words in the dream report
for it to be counted in the DreamSpinner software. More is better.

2. A permission form (enclosed here, just copy and paste into an email to me
dreambjo@...)

Answer yes or no to each of the following sentences:

1. ___I give permission to use my dreams that I submit to this research
project for the purpose of calculating the frequency with which images and
dream elements are similar or not to the other dreams also submitted to this
project.

2. ___I give permission to publish or print the results of this research
project using my dreams as part of the data.

3. ___I give permission for excerpts of my dream to be published or printed
with my name attached.

4. ___I give permission for excerpts of my dream to be published or printed
without my name attached.

5. ___I also give permission for Bjo Ashwill to use my dream as part of a
norming base for the software DreamSpinner. The information will be
anonymous. (This is purely optional, I'm just trying to -- gently caress two
birds with one hand) ; )

6. ___I would like periodic updates on the info this research project comes
up with.

3. Filled out question form for demographic information. (also copy and
paste, and email to dreambjo@....) Personal contact info like
address and phone will be kept confidential.

1. Name:
2. Age:
3. Sex: (Male or female)
4. Marital Status:
5. Educational level achieved.
6. Snail mail address: Street Number and name, City, state or province and
country.
7. Email address:
8. Phone Number.
9. Consider self a psi dreamer? ___ For how long?____
10: Have you had experiences with Mutual dreaming before? If yes, then for
how long?
11. How long have you kept journals of your dreams, assuming you keep a
journal.
12. Do you consider yourself an introvert or an extrovert in thinking style?

I very much appreciate your involvement in this research project. Thanks,

Bjo Ashwill, dreambjo@...



>>>> Survey: How to apply dreamwork? Bitsy Broughton

I am a student in the JFKU Dream Studies certificate program in
Orinda, CA. I am searching for new creative ways to apply dreamwork
education and experience, beyond traditional therapeutic practice or
laboratory based sleep research. I believe that all of us in the field have
creative new ideas and see possibilities, but have no single place to gather
those ideas together and see what we can make of them.

If you have any thoughts on the following few questions, I
would appreciate your perspective. If you would like to know the
results of my search, I will be happy to share it with you once it is
complete. I anticipate that to be early December.

Do you see opportunities for career work combining dreamwork and
spirituality? What are they?

If this work could be placed on a spectrum from highly traditional to highly
non-traditional work, and work in the ministry or in churches is at the
traditional end, what would be at the highly non-traditional end?

Do you know of other sources you would recommend I contact, or better
questions I should be asking?

Thank you for your insights.
Bitsy Broughton
b.broughton@...





>>>> Computer Dream Survey

Are you dreaming of problems with your hard disk, getting connected, the
wrong programs coming up, not being able to find the file you want? Does
your computer turn you on, and have you found yourself mating with a digital
partner or cyborg sex? Has god spoken to you through your computer in a
dream? Has the computer in a dream assisted you in becoming lucid?

Just as during the last turn of the century, we shifted from horse and
carriage dreams to cars, trucks and jets, now we are entering a new
cyber-symbolic era of networking and global interface. What dream content
will remain, what will change?

Take the Computer-Dream survey and help us better understand the changing
night-scape of the digital culture.

http://dreamgate.com/dream/computers/computerdreams.htm




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Do you know of interesting new websites you'd like to share with others? Or
do you have updates to existing pages? Help spread the word by using the
Electric Dreams DREAM-LINK page
www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/ . This is really a public projects board
and requires that everyone keep up his or her own link URLs and information.
Make a point to send changes to the links page to us.

>>> ASD updates Link Pages

Volunteers at the Association for the Study of Dreams are updating the
general resource dream links and need your help. If you have a website that
is listed incorrectly, please send these corrections into Richard Wilkerson
at rcwilk@...
http://www.asdreams.org/subidxedulinks.htm


>>>> Dream inspired Art Gallery - ASD 2003

http://tinyurl.com/sld9

The 2003 ASD dream art exhibition consisted of online and offline parts. The
online web show is now available. The web show, including the work of 32
artists from all over the United States, as well as England and Greece, is
one of our biggest shows ever. The web show was curated by Richard Russo,
ASD Arts Chair, with the help of an advisory jury that included Catherine
Campaigne (Creative Director, Dream Time), Betsy Davids (California College
of Arts & Crafts), and Diane Rusnak (dream artist).

>>>> Bag O' Dreams - Dream Exploration Software

http://helen7.home.comcast.net/bag/bag.html


Bag O' Dreams is an application for the exploration of dreams. Bag O' Dreams
does not interpret dreams: instead it provides a way to search dreams for
related themes and content using information retrieval techniques. You can
enter a list of terms and phrases associated with a concept or theme and Bag
O' Dreams will automatically identify the dreams that are most likely to be
relevant to it. You can also start from a particular dream and find other
dreams that closely match it in content or generate a list of common themes
contained in the dream. Starting from the level of individual words, you can
discover which other terms are commonly associated with it, how often it
occurs and display it in the context of your dreams. Starting from a
collection of dreams, Bag O' Dreams can automatically partition these into
sets of dreams that are thematically related.

Bag O' Dreams is a Java application that requires JavaTM 2 Runtime
Environment 1.4 or higher to work


>>>> Alchera Designer Harry Bosma's new website

www.Alquinte.com is now officially Harry Bosma's new personal website.

Electric Dreams: What happened to the Healing Dreams site?

Harry Bosma: I needed a larger place hosted by a real webhost instead of my
ISP. While working on the Alquinte website, I have also come to think of it
as symbolizing the start of a new phase in my life. Healing Dreams was
strongly related to my background with CFS (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome), and
there are encouraging signs that I may be able to leave much of the CFS
behind me soon.

To tell a bit more about Alquinte: the latest addition to Alquinte is a page
with dream art, made while testing Laura Atkinson's dream art class. I also
have the More Lucid Dreams project at Alquinte, and the results of the
Importance of Dreams survey.


ED: What does Alquinte mean?

HB: In my dreams, strangers sometimes have names. In one dream my uncle - a
psychologist - asks me whether I've seen his daughter Alquinte. He's upset
that I don't even recognize the name. Somehow that dream made a big
impression on me. It sounded like Alquinte could mean something in Spanish.
Although I didn't find the exact word in the dictionary, there were many
interesting associations, for example to alchemy, but also to music. I liked
the word very much.

So, here she is: Alquinte! Have a look:

http://alquinte.com/en/


ED: Are you still keeping the Dream Journal site?

HB: Yes, I've always considered the Alchera dream software important enough
to give it its own place. Alchera will remain online at:

http://mythwell.com



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Cover Artist, Noreen Wessling
The Dream Magician

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TARAWAITH offers "MAGICIAN WISDOM" Tune in with Nature, fabric of the
Universe, thus unbind yourself

My dream cards each had their own agenda on how they wished to enter into my
world and Tarawaithe, Magician of Dreams, was no exception. This androgynous
character emerged with great enthusiasm, not from a night dream, but from a
meditative inner dialogue session... a type of Active Imagination that Jung
was so fond of.

But first a little background where this meeting took place in outer
reality. On Samhain, October 31, 1997, Noreen hiked down to her magnificent
"Grandfather Oak Tree' deep in her 6 acre of woods. While meditating and
leaning against Grandfather's immense trunk it came to her to ask for an
ANCESTOR to communicate with.

Tarawaithe told Noreen in a dialogue that his/her and that s/he was of
Icelandic and Turkish parents. Tarawaithe said "I am the Magician of Dreams
and an artisan of fine fabrics and designs. I make beautiful garments of
fur, bone, precious stones and anything of nature that asks to be included.
I can help you to be more daring and spontaneously YOU in your dreams and in
your art if you want. You are ready to unbind some bindings. Loose them
with 'drumming of purpose.'"

Have in your mind before each drum time "I WANT YOU TO UNBIND ME" and let'r
rip.

Noreen reports "Then as I lay against the tree, I felt the strong urge to
sketch this ancestory, seeing then Tarawaithe, who now feels a friend of
mine forever. "

http://www.creativespirit.net/noreens7artsstudio/

Noreen's Dream Treasure Cards are available for viewing & purchase online as
well as a full story of how she came about them and how they were created.
Or you can email her for more information at
Noreen Wessling [NOREENFW@...]




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An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange

Lucy Gillis


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On occasion, the LDE features book reviews of lucid dream related books.

This month, Katie - an accomplished lucid dreamer herself - shares her views
of Olga Kharitidi's book, "Master of Lucid Dreams":


Book Review
By Katie

Master Of Lucid Dreams
by Olga Kharitidi, MD
Hampton Roads Publishing, 2001

I've been having lucid dreams all my life, so they seem wonderful but
natural to me. I was astonished in my early 20's to come across one of
Stephen LaBerge's books about lucid dreaming and find out that it was a
recognized and studied phenomenon. I had the privilege of volunteering with
the "oneironauts" for a while, trying out some of the masks, participating
in the experiments. Great fun, amazing to hear other people's experience and
carry their curiosity and enthusiasm into my next LD.

Kharitidi's book is about as far from the sleep labs of Stanford as you can
get: don't let the "MD" fool you into thinking otherwise. Khartidi is a
practicing psychiatrist; the subtitle of this book is "In the heart of Asia,
a Russian psychiatrist learns how to heal the spirits of trauma". Kharitidi
relates the story of her guided shamanistic enlightenment about human trauma
and the use of lucid dreaming to resolve it. She brings this learning back
to her psychiatric practice and gives us one example of a woman already
trained in trance states and psychotherapy who hears Kharatidi's story and
releases herself from the psych ward to go home and have a complete healing
within a couple of hours. (I work at a psychiatric facility and am
"professionally" skeptical of 2 hour cures.).

And yet... the book had a pretty strong impact on me. My belief about dreams
is that they encompass every label ever applied to them, from the
meaningless firing of neurons in the brain, to Freud's almost as meaningless
day residue, to a brain function that helps build experience into memory and
learning, to a kind of psychological mirror, to as far out as you want to go
on the spiritual side. I've had such varied and amazing dreams in my life
that I place dreams in the same category as religion: It's too profound a
subject for anyone to comprehend completely, and anyone who believes they
have divine truth does -- have part of it. Like the elephant and the blind
men, whatever bit we're able to grasp and comprehend is true, but
incomplete.

So I enjoyed Khartidi's book a lot; part of it rang quite "true" to me;
others I rejected. But that's just my piece of the elephant. If you're
looking for a read on lucidity from a shamanistic standpoint (what Jung
would call "neuroses", where energy is "stuck" by an event; the author would
refer to "memory demons"), this book will interest you. If your interest in
lucidity is more based in brain function, probably not. If psychological
integration is what you believe lucidity can help develop, maybe, maybe not.
A reference point may be the books of Robert Moss -- if you've read him and
found him worthwhile you may like this book; and the opposite may hold true
as well.


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I Ching, Tarot, Star+Gate And Dreams


(c) 2003 Linda Lane Magallón

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There are a variety of tools on the market that you can use to reveal the
hidden side of things, but the ones I've found most useful for dream inquiry
are I Ching, the Rider-Waite Tarot and Star+Gate.

The best beginner's tool is the Star+Gate card deck, by Richard H. Geer
(Orinda, CA: Star+Gate Enterprises, 1984). The images are simple and easy to
comprehend, plus there are helpful hints for interpretation on the reverse
of each card. For instance, a picture of "The Stone" is backed by the words
"Steadfastness" and "Integrity."

Even though they are more popular, I don't recommend Tarot cards for the
first time explorer. The images are so complex, that when you begin to work
with them, you must lean heavily upon someone else to interpret the cards
for you. To read the Rider-Waite deck, I use *A Feminist Tarot* by Sally
Gearhart and Susan Rennie (Boston: Alyson Publications, 1981). It's a
well-worn book that I've supplemented with plenty of my own notation so that
I never depend on it entirely. I treat it as a source of inspiration, not a
dogmatic decree.

There's also plenty of room to write notes in R. L. Wing's *The I Ching
Workbook* (Garden City, NY: Doubleday, 1979). In fact, Wing encourages it.
The more you work with each tool, and compare written notes accumulated over
time, the more you come to understand your own unique dream language.

I Ching

"What did soaring mean in my dream?" I wondered, throwing 3 pennies and
recording whether they fell as heads or tails. I was consulting the I Ching
to ask about my first high flying dream. The results formed the hexagram
"Repair." Following the instructions, I changed the hexagram to "Potential
Energy."

My dream had been a joyful flight, with the colors of the blue sky, green
fields and pink buildings below bright and clear. Acting in the traditional
Super Hero role, I had flown a young boy to a hospital. As a high flyer, I
was an agent of change and repair. According to the I Ching, the emphasis
was on the potential energy of flying being rising from a healing pursuit.
High flying is healthy, it seemed to say.

"Why couldn't I attain greater height?" I asked the workbook a year later,
about a dream in which I was slow and low to the ground.

The I Ching advised, "It is best now to develop a continuous caution and
inner strength...Through intense awareness you gain in security and need not
fear difficulties." I read this as a call to develop lucid dreaming in order
to overcome the drag in dream flight. I heeded that advice.

Star+Gate

I switched to Star+Gate when I had a dream about a group of people in a
stadium. I had the feeling that I had to support them; they couldn't fly on
their own. I grabbed a couple of men by the buttocks and flew them over to
the stands where the audience burst into applause. Evidently the dream was a
pun. The Star+Gate cards said the issue for me was the "condition of resting
on one's laurels; being afraid to go forward." The resolution or new focus
was being "courageous and adventurous."

I don't limit my inquires to regular picture dreams. Once I asked about a
phrase that I'd heard a voice say in the hypnogogic state. The Star+Gate
suggested that my new focus was "redirecting energy to bring change" and
"the challenge of decision making." The energy of change, I'd known from
previous dreams, but the emphasis on decision making was new.

Later that year, I had a dream in which I climbed a wire mesh fence, but in
such an agile manner that I actually levitated a couple of inches above each
foothold. As I laid out the Star+Gate cards in the manner that had been
recommended, I wrote down each of their meanings. Finally, I found myself
writing "Reach a conclusion, then follow it until you form a new conclusion.
Follow the trail. Trust your instinct as to which path to choose." Then I
sketched this "trail" of suggestions. The path on the paper looked just like
a decision matrix! So I figured the dream was saying, that reaching
decisions helps me climb the path to greater and greater heights, whereas
letting go of worries and concerns means I can levitate. Note that the path
of decision making is the path of free will choices, not a fated card
layout.

Because I wrote down my responses and put them in a binder, I could discover
such recurring themes. Change and decision making, skill building and repair
were common associations with the symbol of flight.

Tarot

Getting airborne is never guaranteed, no matter how long I've been flying in
my dreams. Try as I might, there are times when I experience lulls and lack
of lift. I want to know why: to find out what's deterring me and seek
suggestions for release.

For this inquiry, I selected 4 Tarot cards to represent reasons why I
couldn't fly. Then I selected 4 more cards to resolve the issues at hand.
Symbolically, the number "4" refers to the 4 elements or 4 directions.
Practically speaking, I wanted a balance view of the situation. For me,
flying is about keeping the balance between seeming polarities. It's a sort
of mental discipline, a kind of "dream air-obics."

* The Issues (and elements)

1. Page of Wands, reversed (Air)
Lack of verbal power. Frustration at having important ideas, but being
unable to articulate them.

2. 6 of Pentacles, reversed (Earth)
Lack of cultural support, having to beg to be nurtured. No ready audience
for my verbal or written expression. Lack of encouragement from the dream
community.

3. 9 of Swords (Water)
Nightmares, fear and doubt. Recurring depression and angst clouding the fair
skies needed for clear take-off and easy navigation.

4. Knight of Swords (Fire)
Fierce heroic action without staying power. My fatigue factor: running out
of energy before the end of the day, a chronic problem.

* The Resolutions (and eventual actions)

1. 9 of Pentacles
Solitary creativity in a safe universe. Concentrating on personal expression
in my own backyard. (I directed focus away from presenting at conferences
and towards creating a web site for flying dreams.)

2. The Tower
Overthrowing false consciousness. (I've been using cognitive therapy to
change beliefs that hinder or are no longer appropriate for my current
life.)

3. Ace of Wands
The beginning of adventure. Giving up the passive feminine in favor of the
active female. Treating the subject as a hero's journey. (After seeking
models in old myths, I returned to science fiction and comic books. The idea
of an active flying female is extremely rare, in historical terms. It's a
future-forward perspective of human potential.)

4. 7 of Wands
Taking a stand. Victory through sustained effort. (The struggle for balance
in my dream life doesn't end, but I manage to get the upper hand by
developing better control of negative forces.)

Tarot and Star+Gate

At another time when I was feeling especially discouraged, I wondered why I
should bother expending so much effort trying to fly. What was my motivation
for continuing the struggle? I went to both the Tarot and to the Star+Gate
cards for answers.

>From the Tarot deck I selected only one card. This time, it wasn't a game
of chance. I turned the cards over so I could see the pictures. Then
shuffled through them until I came upon an image that seemed to speak to the
issue. This practice shifts the focus of inquiry from happenstance to
directed will power. It's an affirmation of the opportunities for decision
making.

* The Magician

** Creative will power. (Quite appropriate for this sort of approach.)
** A synthesis of polarities. Bringing the inside out and the outside in.
(Reciprocal energy flow. I help the dream; the dream helps me.)
** The connectiveness of the 4 elements. (Achieving balance in waking and
sleeping life.)
** Advocate for the future. (The real fruits may lie ahead.)

Then I went to the Star+Gate to select a card for comparison.

+ The Token (The overall issue. A repeat of the theme of reciprocity: I get
a gift; I give a gift.)

Since the single Star+Gate card had brought my attention back to the 4
elements, I decided to look at the gifts of flight from all of those
perspectives. I selected 2 cards each.

1) Fire

The Candle and The Butterfly. (Enlightened fascination and the birth of new
consciousness. Flying dreams are often peak experiences in and of
themselves.)

2) Water

The Child and The Star of Laugh. (Discovering new potentials, inner
attributes and externalizing them. Especial emphasis on humor and play.
Unlike many other dreams topics, flying dreams are usually fun and upbeat, a
decided advantage while sleeping and upon awakening.)

3) Earth

The Mud and The Harp. (Creative products and ideas plus musical harmony.
Flying dreams have provided inspiration for my creative dream journals and
picture collages. I sometimes use music to incubate flying dreams and, even
if I don't fly, I might get musical dreams, which are also quite uplifting.)

4) Air

The Eye and The Star of Discovery. (Seeing and exploring, like Alice in
Wonderland. A reminder that flying dreams often lead to lucidity. But even
if they don't, my dreaming self is far more active and superheroic in her
magical world, when she knows she can fly.)

Seen together, I was reminded that flying is very beneficial, from a number
of points of view!

The Dream's Opinion of Inquiry Tools

One night, after playing with the Tarot deck, I had a dream in which I was
flying above a valley. I knew the people below could see me and thought that
they might think I was some kind of witch. Tree branches began to appear,
suspended in the sky. They were barren except for a few leaves each. I
grabbed a couple of the branches and extended both hands so it would appear
to those below that I was using the branches as wings. But I knew I could
really fly without them.

I've discovered that it's important to check your dreams to find out when to
*stop* using a particular method. I recognized the tree branches as the suit
of Wands: straight, staff-like branches with just a few leaves each. The
dream was telling me that, yes, I could use the Tarot deck as a technique to
interpret dreams, but I really didn't need it.

Do you know the best method to interpret your dreams? Your dreams! Who else
knows what they really mean? So I suggest that if you think you understand,
ask for another dream to comment on your waking state conclusion. You might
be surprised to know what your dreaming self has to say. Inquiry tools can
be great fun. But, in the end, the dream comes first.

http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html

(Dream Flights)



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A VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE
Jean Campbell

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This month's View from the Bridge is a connected series of reports from
various members of the Peace Bridge group.


A VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE

November 2003

Jean Campbell


For anyone who doubts that people dream together, and that possibly we are
dreaming the world into existence, the collected dreams from this month on
the Peace Bridge can be viewed as a study in collective consciousness.
Filled with astronomical phenomena, November has been a busy month of
dreams, culminating in the DaFuMu dreaming for the people of Istanbul. I
have appended a collection of the Istanbul dreams at the end of this
article, but at least a brief commentary on other events of the month seems
important as well.

November 8, 2003 Because this was the day of the Harmonic Convergence and a
full moon full lunar eclipse, it was the day selected for the annual ASD
Dream In and a kickoff to the yearly Pledge Campaign. Many members of the
Peace Bridge were prepared to participate in the Dream In (which was also
Chayim's birthday). On the day before this event, Ilkin sent a message to
the Bridge discussion group: "Pray for Moonlight."

As it turned out, Moonlight is the English translation of the name of a
young Turkish woman who had been unable to see clearly from birth. With
Ilkin's assistance, she received surgery, and with the healing prayers of
the group, she has now recovered full sightedness. In a dream three days
before this, Ilkin reported that she had seen a car go by with a woman
handcuffed in it, being held by two men. "I am trying to speak and persuade
the men to free the woman," Ilkin wrote. "I am giving them whatever I have
valuable on me to free the woman." Moonlight also dreamed the night before
the surgery. She assured Ilkin that she knew everything would be okay
because she saw in her dream that she was climbing a hill and reaching the
top.

This event prompted Victoria to suggest that World Dreams people create art
for Moonlight to see, and also prompted the quote from Mary, "One less act
of violence against a woman on Earth is one step closer to peace."

November 15, 2003 In Victoria, Australia, Nick and Victoria continued a
series of Peace Train Workshops they have been doing with young people
there. Victoria wrote that on the train, returning from the workshop, she
and her children, Emily and Blake, met a Chinese grandmother with her two
grandchildren. "The children ended up having lots of fun on the way,"
Victoria wrote, "because I still had extra bottles of bubbles to blow. There
were many 'no' signs - 'no feet on seats' 'no fare evasion' 'no this'; 'no
that' but nothing that said 'no bubble blowing.'" Victoria also created a
page of workshop photos on her website, which can be viewed at
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~mermaid/pipsters_oct03.html

Nick has also been hard at work, with the assistance of other Peace Bridge
members on the new Peacetraining web site, www.peacetraining.org which will
allow people a much fuller access to some of the many ideas for creating
Peace Trains. The Peace Train Project grew from a dream which Jeremy
Seligson dreamed in Korea last year, and since that time Peace Trains have
been spreading around the world.

November 16, 2003 Since October, at the suggestion of Ilkin, Kathy from
Australia, and others, members of the Peace Bridge discussion group had
been planning to participate in the Day of Tolerance promoted by UNESCO.
The group had agreed to dream together and to invite others to dream with
us, as well as to light candles for peace.

On that Day, in Cincinnati, Jody and her husband Terry had invited many
people to join in a friendship walk at the International Friendship Park by
the Riverwalk on the Ohio River. Before the day was out, however, a tragedy
occurred in Istanbul. Terrorists bombed two synagogues there, killing and
maiming many people. From Germany, Ralf immediately sent his condolences to
Ilkin and others on the Bridge, prompting from Chayim a post with the
subject line, "Just Another Bombing/Pass the Popcorn". These events
elicited a busy round of discussion about the meaning of peace and the
meaning of tolerance. The International Day of Tolerance brought up far
more than anyone expected.

Nonetheless, when Jody wrote of the Riverwalk event, she said: "About 35-40
people gathered, black, white, brown, Asian. Many people discovered
connections to others there even though they learned about the event from
different avenues. My most riveting image of the afternoon, a gray misty one
by the river which was glassy and silver looking, great barges slowly moving
by was this: two young Vietnamese children came with their American mother,
one of them was Zoe, 6 years old with missing front teeth and an earth
shaking smile. Zoe was dressed in a bright red velvet shirt with her name
Zoe embroidered across the front. She jumped and skipped and then with
profound seriousness asked to know what tolerance means. She also got down
on her knees on the circles in the paved walk where symbols of pairs of open
hands joined and made a symbolic ring of friendship. She sailed three seed
pod boats in the little pools of rain water that had collected in these
circles, sailing her boats between Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Native
American, African, Chinese, Japanese, and other symbols in these circles."

And Ilkin pointed out that the victims of the tragedy in Istanbul--Muslims,
Christians, Jews--were all being buried as martyrs, and that the city, where
people of different faiths have long lived in peace, would build a monument
to Tolerance.

November 20, 2003 Finally, on Thursday, November 20, I woke very early,
before 5a.m. my time. As usual, I went to my computer to see read the
emails that might have come in overnight from the Peace Bridge. Because the
group spans the world, someone is always awake. I immediately found a
message from Ilkin, saying that bombs were exploding again. Four terrorist
bombs were exploded that day in populated areas of the city of Istanbul.
Ilkin's twin sons lost a friend of theirs, a young girl who died in the
hospital near midnight. Many others were killed and hundreds wounded. What
could we do? Early on Thursday, I sent a message to the Bridge and to other
dream groups online, asking that we do a DaFuMu Dreaming that night for the
people of Istanbul. The night happened to be the Muslim festival of Quadr,
when angels are said to come to earth. Here are the collected dreams from
that night:

Dear DaFuMu Dreamers,

I would like to share with you a most extraordinary series of dreams, which
I have compiled from the dreams sent to The World Dreams Peace Bridge, the
ASD psi dreaming group, and the ASD dream activism group since my request on
Thursday for a DaFuMu dreaming for the people of Istanbul. Because these
dreams were sent to many different venues, I wanted to collect them all in
one place. I have also sent the dreams to some others (in some cases,
people who appeared in the dreams), because I thought they would be
interested. I know that this is a long document, but I hope that you will
read it through to the end.

Thank you, and DaFuMu!

Jean

Dear Dreamers,

I wanted to share the dream I had last night. Yesterday, when I was sending
out requests for the DaFuMu dreaming, I sent a message to Yvonne Baez in
Mexico City, because even though she has not been active on the Bridge
lately, I knew she would want to be involved in this. So here's my dream.

An Angel Over Istanbul

When the dream begins, I am sitting in the dining room of a big house where
ASD is having a workshop. Yvonne and I are sitting cross legged on the
floor, facing one another. I am explaining to her about permeable and
impermeable boundaries in dreams. That is, what I'm talking about with her
is the idea that, even though we are dreaming, there are certain personal
boundaries that we would not want to cross, those having to do with our
deepest feelings.

Then, just like we are having a slumber party, all of the people in the
house lie down on the floor to go to sleep.

We are wakened not long after that by Alan Siegel and Bob Hoss coming in the
front door. They begin stumbling over people, so they turn on the lights,
including the lights that are right over my head. I say, "Turn out the
lights!" But they pay no attention to me, and soon everyone is awake and up
again.

In the next scene in the dream, we are flying in a helicopter that Bob is
piloting. We are flying across a bay with a beautiful bridge spanning it
(the Bosporus Bridge) and gaining altitude. I say to Bob, "I thought you
put this away" (meaning the helicopter), but he nods and looks out the wrap
around glass at the front of the helicopter. I look to my right. We are
still gaining altitude, and ahead of us there is a convoy of six or eight
helicopters, flying way ahead of us. I am worried that they are US
helicopters getting ready to bomb someone. Then I look to my left, and see
a winged figure backwinging to alight on the land below. At first I think
it is an eagle, the US eagle, and I'm afraid again. But then I realize that
it is an angel. Bob smiles. EOD

I guess there is no need for me to interpret this one, huh? My Self said,
when I was writing this dream in my journal this morning, "There are angels
watching over all of you."

Love to all of you World Dreamers. Yvonne, I'm glad you joined us :)) I
hope that the angels descend en masse on Istanbul for Quadr.

Jean

Jean,
I did have an unusual dream last night after wishing to have a
helpful dream for Turkey as I was falling asleep.
The dream:
We had a special painting on the wall created by Gordon Michael
Scallion (best known for his predictions of earth changes), and Gordon was
arriving to visit. As I was going to meet him I looked out the back patio
door and a huge wind was blowing the large tree outside. A great part of the
tree broke off into the neighbor's yard. Thank goodness it did not hurt
their house. Then the second part of the tree went down frontways between
our two houses, again avoiding damage to either one. I could now see the sky
in a way I had not been able to before, when the tree was in the way.
I went outside to examine the part of the trunk which had landed
between the two houses. It got up and STARTED WALKING like roughly the
shape of a deer but still in the form of tree trunks (hard to describe). I
looked at the end of one of the "legs" and saw a brown leg inside of the
tree wood. Then it followed me in the house in the form of a large dog. I
was so happy and excited that it was alive I could hardly talk. I called it
"Magic." I couldn't decide whether to try to peel the bark off or leave it
the way it was and woke up with a "numinous" feel.
I have not had a dream of transformation or a dream with this
sort of magical feel in a very long time. What I derive from it, since the
intention was to dream of Turkey and peace in the region, is that while
there is some destruction, it doesn't cause as much harm as it could have
caused and some unusual form of new life emerges from the destruction - a
kind of death/rebirth scenario. It is not something I could have consciously
made up or imagined and I do feel it was a message.

In Peace, Val
Bigelow

I wasn't planning to share this dream from last night since it, too, didn't
seem to have much to do with the situation in Turkey, but after Val's dream
I do have to share it!

My wife and I are driving north to Vermont, where we will camp out near Mt.
Mansfield (the highest mountain in the state). By the time we cross the
border into New Hampshire it is late afternoon, and we still have a long way
to go. My wife complains that we will not make it to the campsite by
nightfall and suggests that we turn back. However, I insist on continuing
on. When we arrive, it is 10:00 at night. We set up camp behind a log
cabin structure. Others there are prepared to help me construct a small log
cabin of our own. Just then, a huge white birch tree, maybe 1 foot in
diameter, keels over and crashes to the ground, diagonal to where I was
planning to put the log cabin. No one was in the way, so there are no
injuries. I consider using the birch wood, but I find that it is punky and
rotten. I will use other logs instead.

The image I had in mind before going to bed was of the Blue Mosque of
Istanbul (formerly Hagia Sophia), with its minarets. The birch tree did
resemble a minaret. Perhaps there is something here about the need for the
fundamentalist branches of the major religions (Muslim, Christian, Jewish,
whatever) to fall because they are rotten to the core, before a new and
suitable structure can be built for humankind (man's field) to live in?

Curt

Wow, Curtis, another fallen tree!! Now I'm sure we are getting a message.
The tree fall but no one is hurt - that happens in both the dreams. One
tree is rotten, the other has "magic" new life inside it. I think overall we
are receiving very hopeful images in spite of what looks like destruction.

Val

Jean
I don't have clear recall about the setting of my dreaming last night, but I
feel sure that they included discussions of boundaries.. and the need to
understand and express them before becoming angry.

Victoria

Dear Dreamers,

I am immensely impressed by the quality of the dreamwork evident in your
postings! Your interpretations would seem to be very well informed by your
familiarity with the symbolic language.

Allow me to bring a dream of similar theme to your attention.

I was in a movie theater watching a film about terrible inhuman acts taking
place during a contemporary war of destabilization and domination conducted
by the U.S. via proxy terrorists. Suddenly the same proxy army in the film
began entering the theater from behind the audience and started shooting us.
It was then that I realized the dramatic or "movie-like" nature of what we
call reality; i.e., we are involved in a small game which is part of a
larger game we have forgotten about. I knew I was given this dream by
entities who cared enough to attempt to ease my anguish for the fates of
those who suffer at the hands of unconscious humanity.

This does not mean we should blithely accept injustice because it is
"merely" a movie in which the dead players arise at the end of the
production and go on with the "bigger" game. The pain is very real. I
believe we must participate in the creation of a better structure, the
"temple not made with hands", even as we witness the tearing down of the old
structures to make room for the new. It is a labor most literally of love.

Blessings on your important work,
Geoff

I hope to hear from Ilkin.

I thought I didn't dream much that was helpful, but on reflection I suppose
this is a dream of peace and of DaFuMu perhaps as well. I dreamed I found
myself (with no preparation) teaching a session called "The Art of Quiet."
Evidently it was meant to be "art" in the sense of visual arts, as the
participants were sitting on the floor with drawing supplies, looking at me
expectantly. First I tossed them all the pillows from my bed to sit on (I
have a lot of pillows), then I suggested they each in turn call out whatever
visual image of "quiet" came to their minds: "A snowy field." "A sleeping
child." "The inside of a church, by candlelight." Then after two or three
times around the room, I planned to suggest that they each take two or more
images of their choosing - their own or anyone else's - and juxtapose them
collage-like in a single
drawing.

Perhaps Jean would be so kind as to forward this to the WorldDreamers, and
if any WorldDreamers contributed to this DaFuMu I hope you will forward your
dreams to the PsiDreamers for us to see.

Love,
Joy

I had a dream last night I was going on a cruise to Mexico. Me and a few
girls, one of whom was pregnant and due any time, were going to go. We set
a date, but then changed it to a few weeks earlier because the price went
down and because it didn't coincide with the due date. Time to leave we
were in a van to be driven to the docks. Steve Smith in the front passenger
seat. The driver was driving fast down this curvy hill. I had to close my
eyes and just not think about tipping over. Steve said 'yes that is
better'. We got there. Some man announced 'and guess what, you are getting
on the boat named Dream'. We got in and we had inner cabins (some of the
ladies were complaining about this, I was just glad I was going). We sat
in these very comfortable chairs. EOD

Dear Jean and all dreamers who dreamed for us and peace for all the
world....

Jean what a beautiful dream for us. Although people are acting as they don't
affected and go on to normal life psychologists and other experts are
warning on TV's etc that we may have a social post traumatic syndrome. They
even opened some university's psychology departments for free and a phone
call line. I personally realized that I want to sleep all day and thought it
may be because of trying to find a way not to think. Tonight there was
candles on many windows and at 18.00pm everybody turned on and of their
lights for a time as a common signal. Tomarrow there will be a "Sound of
silence against the sound of violance" protest all over the county. People
will gather in all cities and walk in silence. The NGO's and all kind of
labour and professional organisations will lead the protests with the slogan
of "We don't have bombs, guns or bullets; we have our hearts". One side of
me gets furious time to time and one side of me gets proud of my people's
behavior. This is not the first time we are witnessing terrorism but maybe
the most ......(I can't find the word). During the last 10-15 years more
than 30.000 people died in this country but at least there was a braveness
in those deaths, there was a fight. The most disgusting part of this last
events is it's cowardice. Murdering and wounding hudreds of people in such a
coward way is another thing which we can not understand easily in our
culture. Even in our villages where there are blood feud (vendetta) to fire
somebody from his /her back is accepted as cowardice and such people can
never find respect in their lifes. In fact these stupid, nihilist, radical,
terrorists (i can coun't thousands of words) are not aware that they have
turned their gun to themselfs by these bombings. They can't even call
themselfs as muslim in this country anymore after killing so many in this
way and this sacred time. Today the newspapers head lines was as "El Katil".
"Katil" means "murderer" in Turkish and for Turkey, "El Quayda" or any of
these groups name is "El Katil" after now.

Dear Jean, Kathy, Ralf, Victoria, Joy and all who prayed and dreamed for us,
thank you all. It is believed in Islam that tonight is the sacred night
which God sends all His angels to the world, listen all the prayers and
forgive the sins. I was outside a little while ago. It was really as a
somehow different, mystic, magical night. There was a mist (fog?) on the
ground as white clouds has landed on the earth. It was hard to see the
houses around but the sky was so clear and full of stars. I watched the mist
on the ground and the stars at the sky for a long time and think about the
universe. I thought how little we are, how unimportant what we lived, how
far away to those stars but still how close we are. And for a minute I had a
strange feeling thinking if that mist can be to hide the angels around.
Maybe you were also there Jean, with your angel. After so long years of
atheism, I was just begining to believe that there must be a great creator
and these bombings made me question that creator again. Maybe I mus not
question but these are tests we have to take. Well, in short thank you all
for thinking us.

Oh, my dream...I can remember only one dream from the last 5-6 days and I
wish it doesn't mean there is a hindred years of loneliness waiting us but
peace;

"I am staying in a one roomed ground floor place with my husband and
children. It is up a hill facing the Asia part of the city and the sea. It
up to the site of houses I am living now. There is a recluse old man living
in the room near us. He is making spiced nuts and ruffles in his style and
sell them. He is the grand son of Gabriel Garcia Marquez (or himself). He is
reading me poems and I am telling him he is as successful as his grandfather
(and thinking he is too old to be the grandson) and he must publish his work
instead of making these spiced nuts etc. He is answering me it is so hard to
get in front of "A hundred years of Solitude". He is helping me too much and
I am happy having him as a neighbor. There are many shops around. I am
seeing that they are selling very qualified stuff in spite of the poor
neighborhood. Beginning just in front of my house there is a luxury site of
houses as mine. I am thinking I can sell mine and can move to one of these
houses. At a corner of the neighborhood there is a place where they put
their rubbish. While I am looking at the rubbish one of the daughters of the
woman who is working for me is bringing me a weird bouquet of flowers. It is
very much embodied with colorful laces and the flowers are sitting in the
middle of an old silver vase. I am telling the girl to pull the flowers so I
can see the vase. She is pulling the flowers but throwing them into the
rubbish before I can say anything. I am telling her that flowers are as
valuable as the vase and I am going to put them back in the vase after
having a look. She is trying to get them out of the rubbish but we are
seeing that the flowers are not fresh but dried. I am taking the flowers
anyway. We are meeting with her mother, where she came to visit me in the
one roomed place. I am telling her about my moving plans and we are walking
towards my real house. When I am coming to the house I am seeing that my
neighbors are there to visit me. We are at a floor dawn the top. One of them
says she have to go to bathroom and I am telling her to go to the one 2
floors dawn. The woman working for me is warning me that she didn't clean
there yet I am calling behind my neighbor to go to the one at the top floor
but she is not hearing me. I am getting very angry to the woman working in
the house, saying she had been lazy when I was away and didn't keep the
house clean. She gets ashamed and says she was having problems. My neighbor
is coming out of the bathroom disgusted and I am apologizing from her,
saying I had called after her to use the one at the top floor. She is
answering me that not only the bathroom but all the rooms she passed was in
a mess. I am thinking that this neighbor is not worth to speak or to explain
that some times a house can be a mess because of some reasons, she is too
material and I prefer old Marquez reading me poems as a neighbor and living
in a one roomed little house."

Well; I think no need to interpret but believe Jean's angel will help to
overcome the mess we are in and accept to be in a mess for now. And anyway,
what a wonderful thing to have a neighbor as Marquez, reading you poems;
what can I want more....

Love you all- Ilkin

This is amazing Victoria;

You must be all reaching to us. I am feeling myself so happy and lucky
having you dreamers. You already knew we will have a " Sound of silence
against the sound of violance" protest tomarrow. I am sure you will be
walking with us in Istanbul and all over the Turkey tomarrow. I will think
you all in my silence. Love and hugs- Ilkin

Jean
I don't have clear recall about the setting of my dreaming last
night, but I feel sure that the included discussions of boundaries..
and the need to understand and express them before becoming angry.

Victoria
Joy and Victoria and all;

And this is one of the two poems I wrote to World Dreams Peace Bridge 2 days
before; third the line is "Silence All over the earth". There was no protest
plan yet when I wrote this poem. - Ilkin


GRAVE QUESTION
The west wind soared high as the mountains
Spreading
Silence All over the earth
Why say the dead shiver?
Have you ever slept the sleep of death?

In the forest syllable by syllable
Leaves gave you the mighty darkness.
Your body stood Night by night beyond beauty.
Why say dreams are white?
Have you ever slept the sleep of death?

Shadows grew into the winds.
Brooks
And birds scuttled through your land.
Desolate lay the village road. Why say your loved ones are gone?
Have you ever slept the sleep of death?

(F.H.Daglarca)

Dear Dreamers,

This is Yvonne, from Mexico. It's been a while... but the Istambul bombing
brought me back to pray -and dream- for peace. (Thanks Jean).

First of all, Ilkin, I send you and your family all my love, from the other
side of the world. When Jean invited me to participate in this Da Fu Mu
dreaming, I gladly accepted. But when I went to bed, though, my husband was
watching "Gladiator" that was showing on the TV, and I fell asleep, without
noticing it, nor making my intention for the DaFuMu dreaming. Two hours
later, my husband was asleep, too and suddenly "something" woke me up, and
felt Jean's presence right in front of me, and thought "Oh my God! I totally
forgot about it! Right away I concentrated, put my thinking into Peace and
Love to percieve that energy, and get "connected" to send it all around the
world. The only thing I remember seeing before I fell asleep again was a
HUGE 5 point star covering the sky.

A while ago, when I was able to turn on my computer, and read the
messages... clearly realized how Jean had come to my dreaming boundaries to
remind me about the dreaming...

The wierdest thing was that five minutes after I read Jean´s dream, a
helicopter passed over my home roof... That has never happened this late at
night! Call it synchronicity, if you want, or was it Jean's angel who came
to visit?

I would like to share another dream I had no long ago (November 7), that has
to do with BELIEVING and making out of this world, what we wish -or dream-
about:

I am in a swimming pool with a friend . (Her name is Mali, and has been very
spiritual all her life. But lately, she has had a lot of doubts and
disbeliefs with all that is taking place in the world. I must confess I have
been through this misbelief myself lately). In the dream, though, I ask
her how couldn´t she believe, when we are having so many proofs around us.
Before I finish saying that, many dolphins start swimming around us,
touching us, etc... I am even able to hug a little one. My friend, though,
who is just next to me, can´t see them. Then, I turn up to see the sky. It
is very, very
cloudy, with this enormous Cumulus type clouds. But suddenly, the
clouds start taking shapes of big Angels all around! I tell my friend "Look
up to the sky! There are many angels above us!!!!" She looks up, but sees
nothing! EOD

I came up to the conclusion that what we BELIEVE is what matters the most!
If we believe in a world of Peace, sooner or later so it be. If we get
"hooked" to the war, terrorists and hatred, so our world be...

Well, fellow dreamers, that is all for now. Better go to bed... I will have
a pretty busy weekend. Hope to be back in touch on Monday.

Dreaming you,
Yvonne

View the World Dreams Peace Bridge web site at
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The Waves: 08. Psychedelic Dreaming

Electric Moon (September 20 to October 17, 2003)

(c) 2003 Nick Cumbo

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The Waves is a newsletter reporting on the explorations of the Sea Life
community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims to bring
together a circle of dreamers from around the globe, collaborating in mutual
dreaming adventures, and 'dreaming with and for the earth itself'

Link: http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife

This moon, the people at Sea Life, completed a 'Psychedelic Dreaming'
project, in which we aimed to learn about whether or not it were possible to
take psychedelics within a dream, and if so what effects the experience
might have. We focused our interest on three of earth's natural bounty of
psychoactive plants; namely peyote (mescaline), psilocybian mushrooms (magic
mushrooms), and Salvia Divinorum (diviner's sage).

Taking psychedelics within a dream obviously has some interesting
advantages. For one thing, it gives us the opportunity to experiment freely
without the concern of breaking the law or causing serious health damage.
For another, it demonstrates the true power of the mind and it's potential
to experience altered states of consciousness without the need for
sacraments.

An interesting avenue of exploration involved determining whether or not
these experiences were based purely on subconscious expectations, or if it
were possible to interact with the spirit of psychoactive plants directly
through the dream state. Some of the dreamers at the forum, were concerned
about the idea of actually intoxicating themselves with the plant through
eating it in a dream, but were more comfortable with the idea of speaking to
it directly, to learn about it's role and significance to the earth.

Jeff, a friend from the Netherlands, had for 10 years been researching and
using extensively all sorts of psychedelics in combination with meditation
practises and an EEG machine (used to monitor brainwaves). He turned us on
to some really amazing experiences. One involved the use of peyote, the
common name for a hallucinogenic cactus, of which Mescaline is the active
principal agent. A native to Mexico and the southwestern United States, it
has been used for centuries by Native Americans in religious ceremonies.

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A PEYOTE SHAMAN

"Mescaline I found very special! In one dream I met a shaman, all dressed in
plant clothes, who gave me mescaline and every time I took a sip of the
peyote drink I saw a part of my subconscious getting unlocked. I saw
explanations about why things happened the way they had happened in my life.
It was awesome!

At the end of that dream I heard such beautiful music.. it was great! I felt
so bad when I woke. I didn't want it to end.

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In another dream, earlier in the year, I had come across a massive
collection or list of various animals and plants, with healing/positive
energies or uses. Plants have been used by human society for healing and
other purposes over hundreds and thousands of years, so this came as no real
surprise. However, what made this all the more relevant, is that one of the
plants listed was 'Salvia', of which one particular species, Salvia
divinorum is psychoactive.

"The main property of salvia divinorum is to induce flashes of REM activity
during waking but without concomittant blockade of motor efferents. This
leads to non-voluntary experiences of conscious dreaming or pre-conscious
dreaming."



http://www.shaman-australis.com/~claude/salvia2.html

Once again, Jeff had some relevant stories of his own to share with us.

"Many people including myself had a salvia trip where you indentified
yourself with what you saw in front of you. I looked with my right eye in a
dream and didn't see the world. I thought I was a fence around a garden and
with my left eye I saw the normal world and the dream and I laughed that my
other brain part was under narcosis. The funny thing thing is I proved with
this (through the use of the EEG machine) that you can dream with just one
brain hemisphere and not two as we do in normal REM sleep."

Finally, Z managed to pull of a piece of magnificent dreaming, which gave us
a whole new perspective on the link between psychedelics and sea life:

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PSYCHEDELIC OYSTERS

I am walking on a beach and enjoying the vast expanses of water as well as
the sand and the rocks that surround me. I find this shell on the ground
which I pierce open with a knife. It's some sort of oyster. I eat it and
immediately my body begins to feel awkward. I feel as if what I have just
eaten must have had some alkaloids in it because my vision changes. I see
the ocean now with dazzling specs of light touching every inch of water. It
also seems as if the water is moving much faster than moments earlier. As if
it's in fast forward.

I continue to walk and find this grass path which seems to be manicured and
thus probably man made. I walk down it and everything is so vibrant and
glowing with energy. The track ends at this garden which has many weeping
willows in it and old grecian statues. There are rays of light filtering
through the trees as well as droplets of water falling from the leaves, as
if it has just rained. The scene is magical, as if everything speaks to me.
In this drug induced state everything is quite overwhelming.

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A beautiful experience! I couldn't help wondering if Z had just stumbled
upon something otherwise undiscovered. Wouldn't it be interesting if these
psychedelic oysters actually existed! The funny thing was only days later a
fun-loving new member by the name of 'threecaster' joined us, sharing his
thoughts on a band called 'Blue Oyster Cult'.

"I was originally told years ago (maybe I read it on the album) that the
name was based on a group of islanders who were found by spanish sailors.
These islanders had priests who would eat the local Blue Oysters for
psychedelic divinations."

I'll leave with you the words of Morpheus, which I think help provide a
bridge between exploration of the drug-induced realities, and the world of
dreaming. "I believe the usage of these plants can help us to evolve unto
greater potential. The only danger comes from the plants becoming crutches
upon which we build that Evolutionary process rather than training wheels.
My thinking is that they should help us along the path to a higher self, but
like all 'tools' they are not meant to be carried on our backs once we have
'crossed the river', so to speak."

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Stay tuned next moon for the results of our project, 'Dreaming with DNA'. We
welcome new dreamers to join us in our adventures.

Email: explora@...
Forum: http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife





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Dream Blog on Dream Dreams

Ian Campbell

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http://homepage.mac.com/ian20/iblog/C669912779

My journal records dreams I believe are preparing me for death.
It also links to dreams I had before the deaths of my parents; and to a
page for dream interpretation.


"I am not a person who has 'psychic' dreams. I started to record my dreams
in 1988, after a therapist told me they were meaningful. I was immediately
fascinated, and shortly began to study dreams for myself and practise my
interpretations.

It was in 1995 that I had the first dream which seemed to me to predict a
future event, and that the death of one of my parents. It was very
worrying. I thought it would occur during a flight abroad they were due to
take, and consulted with certain friends and family whether to say
anything. I said nothing and they returned safely.

My father died 3 months after that dream, but I had already started a
sequence of about 30 dreams prefiguring the death of my mother 7 years
later from cancer. I really didn't know what I could do with these dreams
other than be perpetually alert and breathe a sigh of relief each time a
few weeks passed by without consequence. For some reason, and if not utter
stupidity I suppose it must be denial, it never really occurred to me to
suspect some stealthy underlying illness like cancer, which was only
diagnosed after she suddenly collapsed one day, 6 months before she died.

After Mum's death I collected together the dreams and studied them as a
group. What could they tell me about my mother? And then what could I learn
about death dreams themselves?

From the beginning the dreams made references to a life after death. It
might be birds migrating, my waiting father, a wedding, birthday, journey,
a Voice from above. This was comforting, but also interesting.
Then I noticed some of the symbols used for the spirit like bird, cat,
lion, fire, tree, flower. What was the significance of these different
forms? And then I was asking myself, How might I have known when the end
was coming? How did the dreams change from 7 years before to 10 days
before? What does it all mean?

I collected my dreams and thoughts into a book I called 'The Lark
Ascending', which has still to find a publisher. It had already occurred to
me that one or two of my thirty dreams had possible references to my own
death. Then in February 2002, I had severe chest pain. Hospital tests said
I was fine, most likely a stress reaction, and after a while I felt
completely better. Needless to say, I looked closer at my own 'death
dreams' after this, one of which had occurred just 2 days before the chest
pain began.

There was nothing more to be done. Doctor said I was fine, so just get on.
Nevertheless I had a faith in my dreams and decided to see if I could get
any more information about timing from first the IChing and then a psychic.
I added the results in an appendix to my book.

I got on with learning how to use a computer and then building a website to
accompany The Lark Ascending. As that drew to a close I was getting dreams
about not being ready for death, and so I looked around for unfinished
business. One thing I hadn't done was collect together the dreams relating
to my own death, which were all mixed in with other dreams in my dream
book. At this time Apple offered its users a free weblog, and this seemed
the perfect way to present the dreams on the web.

So that is what I'm doing. It is quite bizarre in a way to be calmly
plotting the dreams which seem to point to my death. But any number of
people with mortal illnesses or advancing years must equally prepare
themselves for the moment in their own ways. And as timing is not a strong
point of dreams of this type, I might happily be noting down my death
dreams well into old age! I don't think I will be, but who knows? And that
is the wider point of my weblog. Whether I should die early or late, here
is a piece of live data, which will provide some useful evidence on the
subject."

Join Ian on his adventure at:
http://homepage.mac.com/ian20/iblog/C669912779






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Stan Kulikowski II
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Dream: Child of Darkness

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DATE : 28 nov 2003 11:05
DREAM : child of darkness

=( yesterday was thanksgiving. my friend julius came over for dinner, while
i prepared the traditional turkey. he left around 21:30 and i put the first
episode of _upstairs downstairs_ on the video for mother to watch. it is
now our tradition to begin watching her favorite series on thanksgiving. we
usually get through the 57 episodes just after new years. i felt sleepy
after eating some much turkey, so i went to bed around 23:30 and got to
sleep within an hour. i did wake several times in the morning, but went
back to sleep since today, friday is also a holiday and i could sleep late,
hoping for a good dream for my dream journal. i have gotten a few dreams in
the last few weeks, but none very interesting. )=


something has gone wrong with the ritual and the adept is beginning to
perspire heavily. he dare not wipe his face and much more sweat might wash
away one of the protective sigils painted upon his face. then he would be
vulnerable to the forces he has evoked but could no longer control. the
little one at his side in the circle with him turns toward him. its smile
is filled with pointed teeth.

this small child is a mulatto: a child of the night who was instead born
into the light. it had just arrived here from one of the prisoner of war
camps from the outer regions.

during the long progress of battle it sometimes happens that a major demon
is captured. even injured these creatures are a threat and difficult to
kill outright. mobile magical squads are required to handle such cases.
usually they set up cabalistic circle around the wounded demon to perform
the last rites of containment and cremation. the holy light of the heavens
is evoked to incinerate the disabled demon and put it out of its misery.
only then can the battle front move on with some sense of security behind
its lines.

but once in a while this process encounters a difficulty. if the wounded
demon is pregnant, the usual rituals can not be used to extinguish two lives
because the unborn is not guilty of the sins of its parent. in such a case,
the circle of containment is established and a surgical unit is called in to
extract the unborn fetus. sometimes these MASH facilities must wait for
weeks or months until the delivery can be accomplished. this is very tiring
on the magical team which must maintain the containment field constantly.
sometimes the demon and its unborn may die of its injuries, but just as
often it may recover which amplifies the requirements of containment.

this child had been near term and did not require a lengthy gestation period
before it could be delivered by caesarian section. once extracted, the
incineration of the dying mother was not too difficult. the mobile
surgical unit always has many dying soldiers, and their passage to the other
side makes it comparatively easy to deflect some of the divine light onto
the demon. front lines right after a battle also have this dimensional
thinness because a large number of dying soldiers in a small area have
pierced the veil often. using the front lines or the MASH units is thought
to be a more humane method of collecting the light of heaven than outright
ritual sacrifice.

there is a problem of what to do with the still innocent infant of demonic
parentage. because of its heritage from the fallen, any darkness will
develop its natural tendencies to evil, so it is the responsibility of the
prisoner of war camps to see that these misbegotten offspring are kept
constantly in light and in isolation from others of its kind. sunlight by
day and artificial light by night: thus a mulatto demon is raised and
educated for beneficial purposes. such children are never comfortable in
the constant light because their souls never come into focus, needing the
darkness to solidify their true essence.

a mulatto is still an unnatural child and a source of power misdirected from
its heritage. the white skin of the mulatto which has only known light can
be painted with pigments on one side to simulate shadow. even this
artificial darkness can stir the forces contained within the child which
allows a magician to contrast and control the negative energies.

this adept, however, is having trouble. too much dark energy is flowing
within his circle. the small amount of shadow painted on this mulatto
should not have generated even half this surge of power. how was he to know
that the guards in the outland POW camp did not understand the need of
complete light and had allowed the child of darkness a natural night?
saliva drips from the pointed teeth with anticipation of freedom and a meal
of human flesh.

=( awake at 10:54. it does not take me long to fire up my bedside computer
and begin typing this dream into the files. this was not an easy dream to
write up, harder than i thought when i began. this is a third person dream
in which i am not personally there, just watching. and there is not much
action, just the adept waving his arms in various incantations while the
white skinned mulatto child turns toward him and grins its crooked smile
with black makeup smeared on one side of its face. all the rest of the
background material of how the wicked child had been created from a
caesarian section on a wounded mother was known to me without actually being
experienced directly. even knowing this, oddly i do not know the gender of
the mulatto child. i suspect that demonkind may not have sexes as we
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Message: 691-001
Subject: depressing

I have a long conversation with someones mother over the phone. the whole
time i think it is my friends mom. i tell her about my life and that its
depressing and tell her about loss. she cries and cries. later, i go to
work and am going to clock in. my manager stops me and i realize at that
moment i was talking to her mother on the phone, not my friends. she fires
me. i tell her, i didnt know, i wouldnt have said that stuff if i knew it
was her. i am now in a sort of suv. i am in the back seat and all my
managers are in the car, driving me away. i lose it, i tell them they dont
appreciate how hard i have worked and i have done all of this for them and
they dont care about me at all etc etc and vent about how unfair this is,
that i have sacrificed my life to make them happy and have worked extra
hard, and i feel so cheated in life at that moment. i get out of the
vehicle in a parking garage and i go to a telephone and call over to my
friends house. i leave a multitude of messages because i get the answering
machine. later i am at my friends house. i find out he moved out a year ago
and is living in another state, and i think, oh yeah, thats right, he did
move out. i go down to the basement and it is cluttered with some of his
stuff. i decide it is best to sleep there, since it is so late. i see a
phone and its blinking, i press the button and i hear myself, the messages i
left, and they are nothing but depressing sounding, like 'hi. this is me. i
just wanted to say hi. i really need to talk to somebody right now, i wish
you were there.' i cant even remember them at this point.

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Message:691-002
Subject: my reoccuring dreams

some reoccuring dreams: it's dark outside. i'm in a place that is a
combination of cities and places i've been in life and been in dreams. i
have no idea where to go or how to get there. usually i am on a bus and it
makes stops all over and then i'm on a ferry boat over water and have to
jump to a small little boat that is passing, and make it just in time or
fall into turbulent waters. i end up somewhere at the end of a long bridge.
i wait for a bus and it doesnt come so i end up walking and walking. past a
forever long train, this is where other people appear and they are all
foreign or its me that is foreign. sometimes i'm in the train, but when i
am, it is either in outer space or underground. lots of small hills and
sloping streets. when i go inside a complex, it is huge, bigger than any
indoor complex on earth. also houses in dreams are forever big and i get
lost inside them and usually cant find my way back out, at least the same
way i got in. and when that happens i feel i have lost something important
about myself, such as originality or control over my life. i wake up
flustered and depressed because of this. Other places: Places I have
lived. Apartments, that I go back and revisit (which are places I've never
actually been before in my waking life). there are a few different ones.
Some are way far back, and the lights dont work. Though I find old clothes
that I believe belong to me, though I can't remember. - I have a few
theories as to these apartment dreams but i still am unsure of what they are
all about. apartments are in: remote places. cold or seemingly lost
environments, strange parts of a town that in reality would not normally
exist. one apartment, i can only get in through the window.

another one: dreams of a friend of mine from childhood. this is the most
frequent, and each one is more intense then the last. its got to the point
that in the dream i tell him, "I had a dream that I ran into you just last
night! And in that dream I had ANOTHER ream
that I ran into you! And now finally I actually am seeing you for real!"
Its driving me crazy.

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Message: 695-001
Subject: Re: MAKE YOURSELF HAPPY DON'T FOLLOW IN ANOTHERS FOOTSTEPS

you had such a long dream that there's a lot to take in. so i came up with
a few more conclusions and better ones. the control panel in your dream: u
want desperately to have control over your life but u don't feel it's within
your grasp. u feel u don't have enough time and there's too many
distractions. u want help but don't know where to find it. u feel lost.
who's blood is on the stairs? who's footsteps r u following in? dead
relative??? who r u trying to make happy rather than making yourself
happy?? u have to ask yourself questions to gain further knowledge of
dreams. dreams r just symbols that interpret something we already know but
r afraid to acknowledge or it gets us to ask ourselves questions we wouldn't
otherwise think of to ask ourselves. dreams don't lie!
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Message: 695-002
Subject: Re HI THIS IS MY SLIGHTLY WOEFULL INTERPRETATION OF DREAM U SENT ME

hi i got your dream and usually when people drink that much water is means
their on a diet and i don't know i think the unknown enemy might be u. i
think there r certain areas of your life that u think r stagnating and the
diet is only one of the things u wanna change about your life. they say the
body is your temple. which means that the house could represent your body.
or did u say ship i can't go back and then finish this letter. i'm sorry.
i'm just happy that everyone is writing me. u also watch too many horror
and action movies dear. feel free to send me any other dream u want and i
will try my best to help u even if i am inadequate at doing so. i don't
know i'm trying to help. i figured that's the reason u sent it to me.
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Message: 696-001
Subject: in the dark

11/12/03

I am in a house that is my parents house. The surrounding environment is a
loop of sorts, that i can only call a tour-of-subconscious. i can only
compare it, to a giant park with exhibits here and there, and a road with a
tour bus that goes around. at night there isnt supposed to be anyone
outside (like the movie westworld). there is maintenance done at night,
which i notice at a point when i am trapped outside, lost somewhere. at
this point i
observe people spraying leaves or dirt on an area, to make it look
authentic. i remember wandering around, searching, in the dark, because
there is no light. A vehicle with people encounters me, and takes me back
to the house I was in before. It is so dark. There is an upstairs area,
where I am trying to get the lights working. I recall trying different
things to get them to work (not sure what they were anymore). I get them to
work, but they are so dim it isnt even close to being good enough. I go
down the stairs, and I find my parents. I ask them, (because they were out
all this time, and they just got back) how do I turn the lights on? They
tell me I can't because (I forgot why). The answer they give me is very
indirect, I recall. I am only going to be comfortable when the lights turn
on. And they never do.

notes: I am leaving some major things out because I cant remember them.
I've had numerous dreams with lights that dont work and being trapped in
houses with lights that wont work. This was one of the more extensive
dreams of this sort.

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Message: 698-001
Subject: Dreams

I joined another group before realizing it was completely dead. I copied
this from the other post - Currently I don't have a lot of time to keep a
detailed journal, so this is something from an era when I had more time. I
also belong to a lucid dream group, but I sometimes have to doubt the
sincerity of some of the people there. The posts here seem more like real
dreams. At least more like the kind of dreams I have (Maybe you should all
be worried??).

Anyway, here's one nights worth of insanity, from a while back...

I was in the woods near where I live. The trees were strange - They were
huge, the bark was grey and smooth, but knotted in many places. The trunks
were really thick, and the branches were interwound. I went up a hill, and
on top of the hill there was a cluster of big rocks - they were brown, and
cube-like (like salt crystals, only brown, and the edges of the squares were
rounded). I looked out from the top of the hill and I was in a large
forest - there were trees (green) as far as I could see, and far away a
large fairly smooth like a glacier. There was somebody else with me. I did
not know him. We wanted to get to the rock to investigate it, but it was too
far away. I started walking through the bushes, but soon there was ice
everywhere. All the leaves had fallen and turned brown. The ice was like
slush/ wet snow. I broke through it to my ankles then my knees, until I was
wading through it. It was not cold, but we could not make it to the rock
formation.
-break-

I was reading a book about psychology/behavior. It was a simple book, like
something that might have been on a supermarket shelf. Not really worth
paying attention too, I thought. There was a story in it about a woman, I
think. Somebody had written, 'if you cared you would stop' - by someone who
meant something. I said, 'something was a long time ago, love'. -I woke up

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