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Volume #11 Issue #1
January 2004
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C O N T E N T S
++ Editor's Notes
++ News: ASD International Conference
Research requests, Web updates, and more!
++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
Lucy Gillis
++ Article: Event-Clumps and Dreams
Linda Lane Magallón
++ Column: The Waves: 09. Dreaming with DNA
Nick Cumbo
++ Review: Review of Jung: A Biography by Deirdre Bair
Jeremy Taylor
++ Article: Transgressive Dreamworks: Theorizing the Exceeding
of Limits and the Creation of Improvizones
Richard Wilkerson
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++ DREAM SECTION: Dreams from December, 2003
Host: Elizabeth Westlake
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Welcome to the January 2004 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to dreams
and dreamwork online.
If you are new to dreams and dreamwork, please join us on
dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the resources &
groups you need. To join send an e to
dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Lucy Gillis has brought Electric Dreams readers a wide variety of lucid
dream experiences that have delved deeply into the topic. This month she is
including an except from Lucid Dream Exchange by Certified Hypnotherapist,
Lee Betchley. Ms Betchley discusses the benefits of lucid dreaming and
hypnotherapy.
Our mind is not a camera. And so our dreams are not movies that literally
represent objects. Linda Lane Magallón, author of _Mutual Dreaming_,
suggests that one way of looking at multiply determined dreaming is through
"event-clumps." These clumps of affect, thought, sensations and memories
combine and express those things that impact us the most. Be sure to read
about them in "Event-Clumps and Dreams"
Nick Cumbo newsletter and column reports on the explorations of the Sea Life
community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims to bring
together a circle of dreamers from around the globe, collaborating in
dreaming adventures, and 'dreaming with and for the earth itself.'
James Watson, co-discoverer of the structure of DNA, reported stumbling upon
the double-helix image for the DNA chain through his dream of a spiral
staircase. Picking up on the theme, this month, Nick sets out to teach us
more about the role of our DNA structure, and it's relationship with the
conscious mind.
I'm including a preliminary piece of my own on Transgressive Dreamworks.
This is an essay that where I would like to call out dream theorists or
dreamwork theorists and invite them to submit articles on dreaming that push
the limits of old theories in an attempt to create novel alternatives. If
interested, please check out "Transgressive Dreamworks: Theorizing the
Exceeding of Limits and the Creation of Improvizones."
Our Global Dreaming News will bring you up to date on the events in dreams
and dreaming. Send Peggy news items at
web@...
A couple items I didn't get into the news:
- If you would like to be on the Lucidity Newsletter:
Send a blank email message to
lucidity-on@...
- The BADG website is changing its address, Bay Area Dreamwork Group members
please make note of this:
http://www.dreamgate.com/badg
Our Dream Section is edited by Elizabeth Westlake.
If you have dreams you want published enter them anonymously in the form at
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple
Or you can put them in the dream flow directly by subscribing to:
dream-flow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to stop by one
of the many resources:
http://www.dreamtree.com
http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library
Electric Dreams in PDF: (thanks to Nick Cumbo)
http://www.dreamofpeace.net/community/electricdreams/
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See you in February,
-Richard Wilkerson
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If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats,
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This Month's Features:
NEWS
- World Dreams Peace Bridge (WDPB)
- WDPB gains Aid for Children Contact
- ASD Dream Calendar Available
- Active Dreamwork: Discovering the Meaning of Your Dreams
- Bag 'o' Dreams Application
- Planetary Dream 2003 (French)
- Berkeley Dream Drop-In
RESEARCH & REQUESTS
- Bring a Dream for the Holiday Tree
- How to Apply Dream Work Survey
- Dream Plane Project
- Seeking CFS patients for study in Boston
WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES
- Dream Journals Preparing for Death
- Stimson's Web
- BADG site moving
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>>> World Dreams Peace Bridge Week-o-Dreamin : December 21 & 28, 2003
Dear Dreamers,
This is an invitation to join members of The World Dreams Peace Bridge in a
week of dreaming between December 21 and December 28, 2003. There are many
reasons for our desire to do this DaFuMu, and if you'd like to read
farther,you can see some of the discussion we've had about the subject on
the Peace Bridge.
Like Kathy says, the name for this season could be
"Christmas/Hanukkah/Beginning of the Forbidden (Sacred) Months/Winter
Solstice." She adds: Of course we could write these festivals in ANY ORDER!
Several members of the Peace Bridge, from around the world, gave reasons why
they feel that this time is particularly important to humanity. Here are a
few of them:
After hearing that Buddhist monks had been working to keep the war and
conflict at an energetic level rather than a physical one, Ralf replied: I
feel too, this is an important time to dream for peace. I feel it is a kind
of turning point, as if international system is a little bit more unstable
now that Saddam seems to be caught. A good time for playing with chance, a
good time to dream the system into more peaceful directions, me thinks.
Anna added: yes- and not only 'even though' we are tired -sometimes I feel
as though the weariness is in response to that background 'screaming', of
which we are all aware but cannot always grapple with...to bring it into the
light of our awareness is actually Less stressful, to deal with it
directly -sometime s I wonder if the tiredness isn't at least in part from
the effort to maintain 'regular' life, while it goes on...
The spirit of the Solstice twines in so well with this, doesn't it? -of the
darkest day turning to the birth of the light...I have always appreciated
the sense that we each have to , and get to, partake in that- by each facing
up to our own inner shadows, we can work with them , move through them to
the dawn...we can turn our shoulder to the great turning of the wheel, and
right now it turns towards Light..
So we folks of the Bridge decided to dream world peace for a week, and to
join with other groups doing some similar things. You will find a list of
specific dates and events at the end of this post, but before you look, you
will probably want to see some of the suggestions that members of the Peace
Bridge have made.
Victoria asks: What is one peaceful image you like to include? For me it is
blue generally, and the idea of candles being alight around the world -
particularly during the times that seem darkest.
Nick wonders whether we can include general projects, that don't have a
specific date for dreaming, like, " Can I make a special request for a
dafumu for Chayim's Hands Across the Jordan project on a particular day of
that week. I think our help could make a big difference :) My answer to this
is that I would like to see a focus on the Hands Across the Jordan project,
the Aid for Children project, and the Peace Train on Monday, Tuesday, and
Wednesday of the week respectively. More about all of these projects can be
found at the World Dreams web site
www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org
>>> ASD 2004 DREAM ART CALENDAR NOW AVAILABLE
New from the ASD Development Committee is a gift which will be given to any
member who pledges $250 or more, but can also be given by members to
themselves or others. It's the ASD 2004 Dream Art Calendar, containing a
dozen prints from some of your favoritie dream artists. Free with pledge to
ASD and $19.95 from the ASD Store: View the calendar and its contents online
at the ASD store
http://www.cafeshops.com/asdreaming.8797286
The Association for the Study of Dreams has many projects active right now,
including a pledge drive, online auctions, preparation and registration for
the international conference next year in Copenhagen and regional activity
as well. We don't always cover the full range of their activities, so you
may want to sign up for their free e-mail newsletter at
asd-enews-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>>>> The World Dreams Peace Bridge finds Aid for Children Contact
Due to all the activity since the winter solstice, the WDPB moderator, Jean
Campbell, will not have time to put together a View from the Bridge column
this month. But she does report that they have had success in finding
someone who will be able to take Aid for Children packages to Iraq.
Jean wishes Happy Holidays to all from the World Dreams Peace Bridge.
Major stories happening, so look for the February View.
>>>> ACTIVE DREAMWORK: DISCOVERING THE MEANING OF YOUR DREAMS
Saturday, January 31, 2004, 9:30 AM-4 PM
Center for Lifelong Learning--Briarcliff Campus
Emory University, Atlanta GA 30322
Celebrate the New Year by making a dream date with leading experts from the
Association for the Study of Dreams (ASD)*** at the Second ASD South Eastern
Regional Meeting co-sponsored with The Center for Lifelong Learning at Emory
University.
Learn how to use dreams to guide and illuminate your journey through waking
life. Make important connections among dream images, colors, and story
lines.
Discover the three core lessons essential for personal growth. Find
practical answers to personal and professional problems. Explore innovative
methods for extracting the wisdom of dreams. Experience a dream group and
its benefits in finding the meaning of your dreams. Educate yourself further
by purchasing selected dream books available for sale. Bring your dreams and
a brown bag lunch. Drinks will be provided. Some highlights of presentations
and presenters bios:
Dreamwork for Exploring Your Personal Myth.
Bob Hoss will teach a simple but powerful technique, a unique
Gestalt-derived approach, that brings dream images to life, permitting them
to speak, stimulating inner awareness of fragments of self that seek
integration. You will be guided through imagery, color, and exploration of
associated emotional memories and decisions that may have become part of
your personal mythic structure, perhaps impeding personal progress. A
special closure technique, using the context of the dream, will be modeled
to help transform your personal myths and to provide practical guidance in
waking life. A handout is provided.
Bob Hoss, MS, is President of the international Association for the Study of
Dreams (ASD), and Dream Psychology Instructor at Arizona's Scottsdale
College. Principally trained in Gestalt Therapy, Bob has also done unique
research on Color in Dreams and the works of Carl Jung, combining various
disciplines in his teaching, writing, and workshops. He is the author of The
Language of Dreams.
Dream Mentors: Spiritual Lessons We Learn and Teach in Dreams.
David Gordon's workshop highlights the experience of mentoring and being
mentored in our dreams. Participants that dream mentors teach us and that we
learn to teach others within our dreams. David will explore three archetypal
spiritual lessons essential to our emotional and spiritual growth--the need
to release control, judgment and attachment.
David Gordon, PhD, is a clinical psychologist and founder of the Dreamwork
Institute in Norfolk, VA. He conducts dream sharing groups and dream retreat
workshops, gives radio and TV interviews throughout the US and Canada, and
writes extensively on dreams. His book, Dreaming the Path of Your Heart:
Understanding Your Dreams Through the Mythic Journey, is pending
publication. David is currently a Board member and Membership Chair of the
ASD.
What I Learned the Past Ten Years About Working Dreams in Groups. Bob Haden
will share his experiences and guidance in this introduction to a group
dream sharing exercise. He will move the participants into a time for dream
sharing within groups-the ideal situation for beginning to understand the
positive impact dreams can make on your life.
Bob Haden, MDiv, STM, DAPA, is a Jungian Psychotherapist, Pastoral
Counselor, Priest. Bob is the founder and director of The Haden Institute in
Charlotte, NC which offers certified training in spiritual direction and
dream group leadership on a national basis.
Workshop Closure: Living the Dream
Justina will lead the group in making meaning and incorporating the lessons
learned during the day into daily life. Rituals will be introduced that help
keep the dream alive in your life.
Justina Lasley,M.A., is your meeting hostess and dream group facilitator.
She has 14 years of experience in working with dreams and researching dreams
throughout the U.S. and Europe. She is a member of the Board of Directors of
ASD and the Moderator of an international on-line study group for dream
leaders. Justina is completing a book, Honoring the Dream: Leading the Way.
Fee: $80 with 15% discount ($68) for ASD members (join at ASDreams.org) or
full-time students with I.D. To reserve a place, register on-line (secure)
after January 2, 2004* at HYPERLINK "
http://www.emory.edu/eve"
www.emory.edu/eve (Master Card and Visa), by phone at 404-727-6000 from 9-4
(EST), or mail in registration form. You will be notified of conference
location after registration * You may pre register before January 2 by going
to DreamsWork.us and filling in the information form or by e-mailing Justina
at
DrmKpr@.... For more information contact: Justina Lasley at
DrmKpr@... or 233 South Plaza Court, Mt. Pleasant, SC 29464
>>>> Bag 'o' Dreams
Bag O' Dreams is an application for the exploration of dreams. Bag O' Dreams
does not interpret dreams: instead it provides a way to search dreams for
related themes and content using information retrieval techniques. You can
enter a list of terms and phrases associated with a concept or theme and Bag
O' Dreams will automatically identify the dreams that are most likely to be
relevant to it. You can also start from a particular dream and find other
dreams that closely match it in content or generate a list of common themes
contained in the dream. Starting from the level of individual words, you can
discover which other terms are commonly associated with it, how often it
occurs and display it in the context of your dreams. Starting from a
collection of dreams, Bag O' Dreams can automatically partition these into
sets of dreams that are thematically related. Bag O' Dreams is a Java
application that requires JavaTM 2 Runtime Environment 1.4 or higher to work
http://helen7.home.comcast.net/bag/bag.html
>>>> Rêve Planétaire 2003 // Planetary Dream 2003
Bonjour à tous de la part de Sunny,
Les rêves planétaire reçus pour l'instant pour la
session 2003 peuvent être lus à l'adresse suivante:
http://psykoon.free.fr/oniroom/index.php?&act=SF&f=8
Vous pouvez bien entendu les commenter, ajouter vos impressions ou quoi que
ce soit. Je vous invite par la même occasion à vous inscrire sur l'oniroom
pour y participer pleinement :)
Profitez-en!
Sunny,
Fils de Roger & Administrateur Oniroom
>>>> Berkeley Dream Drop-In
Drop-In Dream Group with David Jenkins, Ph.D.
If you find your dreams fascinating, this is the place to go.
If you have a "big" dream - one that you still remember several years later,
this is a place to discuss it.
If you have a recurring dream or a nightmare you'd like to go away, this
will help.
WHEN: Saturday Mornings. 10am - noon.
REGISTER: email
davidj@... or call 510 644 2369
WEB:
http://www.practicaldreamwork.com
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>>> BRING A DREAM FOR THE HOLIDAY TREE
(Reviving a BADG tradition...on the Internet!)
For over a decade, the Bay Area Dreamworker's Group (BADG) had a December
tradition: bring a dream to hang on the Christmas tree at the annual holiday
party. The custom has waned over the past few years, but I'd like to bring
it back. You are invited to join the tradition. But this year the "tree" is
on the Internet.
Christmas tree dreams are special. Unlike dreams we may present to
ourselves, these dreams are gifts to other people and thus they have the
unique attributes of sociability. For instance, because a dream is often
handwritten, I've encouraged folks to remember that somebody else has to
read it! As a result, handwriting vastly improves. We've even had gifts of
calligraphy. Of course, you don't have to worry about penmanship on-line.
But you might want to review your dreams and break them down into easy
pieces to read instead of one large chunk.
A delightful thing happens when we shift focus from ourselves to other folks
in this manner. Our dreaming selves seem to follow our example, in their own
individual ways. The dreams we incubate or expect to appear (like a child
waiting for Santa Claus) tend to become...more. More colorful, coherent,
amazing, intriguing or story-like. Some of my favorite dreams of the year
occur around Christmas time.
Would you like to pin a dream to the holiday string? Simple suggest to your
dreaming self that she put on her holiday best and come to the party. Then,
when she responds, bring your dream gift to the ASD bulletin board to share.
Here's the instructions.
1. Surf to
http://www.asdreams.org/UltraBoardzzz/UltraBoard.cgi
2. Click on "Association for the Study of Dreams Discussion Board."
3. Click on "Bring a Story Dream to the Holiday Tree."
4. Read as you please.
5. To add your contribution, scroll down to the last entry. In that box you
will see 4 options, 2 within and 2 below the message. Select the "REPLY"
option below it. (CAUTION: Do not hit the "Post" option...this will start a
whole new string and you don't want to do that!)
6. Enter the all the starred* information. Under "Nickname" you might write
your full name, first name, or your Internet handle. "Symbol" is optional.
Do not change the "Subject" line. (Hint: I compose my memo in Microsoft Word
beforehand, then simply copy it to the "Message" box.)
7. If you want to review your message before you post it (and make sure it's
all right), select "Preview your post and/or attach a file?" under the memo
and the box will become an "X." Then select "Post."
8. Read your message. To CORRECT any errors, return to the previous screen
by using your WWW page return button or arrow. To go ahead and post, select
"Post."
A reminder: ASD doesn't allow dream interpretation on its board, but you
won't have to worry about that for this project. The project will be active
for the entire month of December. I've already put up a sample dream and
there will be more to view shortly. Enjoy!
Happy holiday dreams,
Linda Lane Magallón
>>> How to Apply Dreamwork Survey
I am exploring career applications for dream work. From your perspective and
experience, have you identified areas other than psychotherapy or sleep lab
research, where you see an opportunity for dreamwork to be applied? If you
had the opportunity to apply dedicated resources in the form of new
graduates, to open new doors for this work, where would you send us? Thanks
so much. Bitsy
bbroughton0024@...
>>> Dream Plane Project
Dear Dreamers, Light Workers and Healers
I am starting a Dreaming Project on the Dream Plane. I have finished my
studies and am ready to begin. My 7-year cycle that has ended, after my
awakening and self-healing begins a new 7 year cycle. I am grateful for the
continuing guidance in my work by teachers, friends, relatives, students,
God/desses and Ascended Beings.
THE PROJECT AND PURPOSE:
To energetically begin to remove blocked energy and clear, purify, bless and
set compassion and love 'intention' of 9 specific Ancient Temples on the
'Curved' matrix line across the Earth. [Most are familiar with the 'Linear'
Grid Matrix Line of the Ancient Pyramids around the globe but these are not
the Temples.] This work will begin to open Portals to remove Old Systems of
Duality [Pyramidal Societies] and begin to open Wholeness of the Cycular or
feminine energy and the New Systems of the coming Egalitarian Societies. The
list of Temples were given directly to me through the Ancient Antlantian
Thoth [Djewty], as he now passes the Ancient Sword of the Sacred Masculine
to the Sacred Feminine within all of us.
VOLUNTEERS:
I am seeking those who can work in DreamTime at night or during the day.
Those who are experienced with Energetic Healing, Energetic Space Clearing
in the physical realms, those working with transformational Water Healing,
Sound Healers and/or those experienced with Psychopomps. If you are an
advanced Dreamer without these backgrounds, you will be considered with your
particular gifts of the ability to hold sacred space. These requirements
above are not absolutes. Any work including Shamanism, Feng Shui, Reiki
Master/Practitioner, Pranic Healing, Cranio-Sacral etc. is also helpful.
The volunteer must not be associated to just one singular religion or
indigenous path, but a Rainbow person who accepts and embraces all teachings
and ancient teachings. Understanding of Lunar Alchemy or systems beyond
basic Mayan principles and use the Lunar energy as guidance is helpful but
not mandatory. Deeply Spiritual practices of Meditatation, Yoga, Prayer,
Intent or Affirmation work also helpful if these are your particular path.
Global Reverence of Love as the Divine Energy Foundation.
PROJECT SCHEDULE:
I am setting up a Schedule to visit 9 particular Temples in 2004 and 2005 on
the Dream Plane in a repeated series of Healing Visits. Your work can be
done at night in the Night Dream or Shamanically in the Day or in the Day
Dream Awake (if you are at advanced level). Please write me personally and I
will begin a list of 'dedicated' volunteers and keep in contact with you as
I progress with the final schedule. If you are called to this project, I
seek only dedicated, serious and committed follow through the long haul
types of volunteers, who have moved into action.
FACILITATORS PERSONAL NOTE:
I HAVE LEARNED from my personal healing journey that: Peace on Earth begins
with reaching great states of Inner Peace and self -acceptance of both
personal Light and Dark Nature, and working towards wholeness with great
dedication daily; Secondly awakening to personal illusion, denials, self
suffering or victim consciousness; Third, into personal shadow work and
integrating darkness [creation] rather than rejecting it to re-balance the
chakra system for wholeness of masculine and feminine energy within and
lastly Core Fear Issues that arise to push through conscious levels into the
unconscious with awareness for depths of personal Clarity and Discernment.
An Awakening to the Logical and Reasoning Minds Limitation. Compassion and
Wisdom teachings with an integration of the Spirit of Nature within and in
the physical world of Fire, Earth, Water, and Air and their Archetypes and
an awakening or understanding of Mother Nature herself as she comes alive as
a living and breathing spiritual energy. Energy Systems within to merge as
Co-creator in the Matrix of the Unified Fields and self-connectedness to the
All [Cosmic Mother Energy].
Blessings Mary Novak
13 Star Nation Shaman
http://www.LilithSophia.com
>>>> Participate in CFS dream research project : Boston Area
A major study by Harvard Medical School on the impact of dreams on the
immune system of chronic fatigue syndrome CFS patients will be taking place
in the Boston area and participants will be needed. Only those with CFS
should apply. Massachusetts General will screen participants.
Participants should be in Boston area. Only those with CFS should apply.
Mass General will screen them if they fit the criteria.
If you feel you may be a qualified candidate, please contact Robert Bosnak
rbosnak@...
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>>>> Dream Journals Preparing for Death
http://homepage.mac.com/ian20/iblog/C669912779
>>>> Stimson's Web
William R. Stimson, The first editor of the Dream Network Bulletin, this
site updates Stimson's activities in dreams, yoga and other projects.
http://www.my-hope.com/Bill/
>>>> BADG site moving
The Bay Area Dreamworker's Group site will be moving next month from it host
of many years at DreamTree to www.dreamgate.com/badg
Please make a note in your hot links list!
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Dec 21, online
World Dreams Peace Bridge Week-o-Dreaming: December 21 & 28, 2003
www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org
Jan 31, Atlanta, GA
Active Dreamwork. Emory University. To reserve a place, register on-line
(secure) after January 2, 2004* at HYPERLINK "
http://www.emory.edu/eve"
www.emory.edu/eve
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An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
Lucy Gillis
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This month the LDE is pleased to present an article by Certified
Hypnotherapist, Lee Betchley. Ms Betchley discusses the benefits of lucid
dreaming and hypnotherapy.
WAKE UP AND DREAM - THE HYPNOTIC BENEFITS OF LUCID DREAMING
(c) Lee Betchley, C.Ht.
Hypnotherapists recognize the value of dreams for revealing information from
the subconscious mind and venting blockages and frustrations as therapeutic
change occurs. A lesser known but highly effective aspect of dreaming is
"lucid dreaming" - the awareness that you are dreaming while you are
dreaming.
It's an ability every one possesses, yet is dormant in most people.
Therapists can assist clients to develop lucidity or increase the degree of
lucidity through specific techniques and practice. As you may know, any
hypnotic suggestion is most effective when the client takes some form of
immediate action. This is also true for increasing lucidity. After receiving
hypnotic suggestions, the client could buy a dream journal or write a
personal affirmation. This reinforces to the unconscious mind the
seriousness of the intention. The intention of the client is an important
aspect of any hypnotic work.
I discovered lucid dreaming as it occurred naturally in my sleep. It became
a way to cope with childhood nightmares. While dreaming, I became aware of
something that would cause me to think clearly, "This is a dream." I knew
consciously that if I were to open my waking eyes, I'd find myself safe in
my bedroom. I learned that in a nightmare I could face my fears, realizing
that the fear was real but the danger was not. This gave me courage and
created dreams that were empowering experiences.
Almost everyone has experienced a nightmare. For some they can be a
reoccurring scene or dream. And for others it can be a fearful experience
that can cause distress. Many dream researchers agree that nightmares are
unrecognized unresolved conflicts in the waking life. The most effective
treatment includes dream interpretation, guided imagery in hypnosis, or
dreaming lucidly.
Several years ago I dreamt I was in the desert. There is a long line of
people leading to a fork in the path. The line splits at that point with
some people walking further into the desert and the others going into this
magnificent casino. A tall dark man catches my attention. He insists I go
into the casino and grabs my arm. I am hesitant to disobey him. I suddenly
realize that I am not walking to the door but "floating", so I must be
dreaming. I am staring at the dark man and remind myself that this is a
dream. Suddenly I start to laugh and say; "I know who you are." His face
changes. "You're Satan. And you're trying to trick me." I start flying
around him, teasing him. In that instant he was no longer a powerful evil
figure but just some man. It was an incredible feeling to know that I had
the freedom to make a choice, go where I wanted to go and return if I
wanted. That dream empowered me with the knowledge that as long as I could
recognize fear and name it, it can never have power over me. It was as if I
had bypassed years of therapy.
Hypnotherapists know the power of an active imagination in hypnosis and the
waking state. Think how much more powerful that active imagination can be in
dreaming. Dream content is as vivid and rich as perception during the waking
state - in fact, even more so. The dream world is multi-dimensional,
multi-textural, and so "real" that studies have shown physiological response
to take place as if the event were actually happening.
Imagine developing your ability to dream lucidly. You could rehearse an
important speech, ask for a raise, audition, or practice your golf swing so
vividly in a dream that the brain activity would respond identically during
the "real" event. How about the possibilities for problem solving,
self-empowerment, healing and even personal transcendence.
Clients who are currently working on increasing their lucidity have had
amazing results. One woman told me her waking dentist suggested she use
creative visualization to help an area he had worked on. That week she had
conjured up a "dream dentist" who applied a "special bandage" on the tooth.
When her waking dentist examined the area a few days later, he was surprised
at the healing that had taken place.
Lucid dreaming is a skill that anyone can develop with motivation and
effort. The enjoyment and benefits are well worth it. What could you do with
the third of your life that is spent sleeping? How could you use it to
benefit the other two-thirds? Through lucidity the line between the dream
world and the waking world begins to blur, providing unique opportunities to
interact consciously with your subconscious mind.
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Event-Clumps and Dreams
(c) 2004 Linda Lane Magallón
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I like to use the term "event-clumps" to remind myself that every memory is
a composite. It consists of several elements, like picture, thought,
emotion, sensation, instinct and intuition. I need the reminder because of
the intimate relationship between memory and dream. It's all too easy to
gloss over a dream when I write out the narrative and thus miss underlying
clues to its meaning.
Many memories have a visual component that has become associated with a
non-visual element. For instance, an episode of an attack by the neighbor's
dog might encode picture and emotion together in the formula, German
Shepherd = fear. I can retrieve that event-clump by seeing a new dog of the
same breed, which triggers a new sensation of fear. This is a common waking
occurrence.
However, the opposite is also true: I feel the same sort of fear when my
boss "attacks" the quality of my work. While I'm in the midst of this highly
charged employment situation, the picture of the German Shepherd doesn't
register on my conscious mind. But the event-clump comes as a package,
nonetheless. If I recall the work incident before I sleep or if its
intensity has not yet dissipated, the event-clump that describes the
fear-emotion in picture-form will be readily available material for the
construction of a dream. The event-clump is one of the "bricks" that builds
my world of sleep.
A memory does not have to have a visual aspect, though. When you lose a
tooth, the sensation of a lump in the mouth can be encoded with anxiety. If
a bit of food gets stuck in your teeth, then loosens later (whether awake or
asleep), it could trigger a tooth-loss dream. The sensation alone might
provoke such a dream, but such an event-clump is far more likely to become
available for dream production if several of its components are repeated in
the current scenario. If you eat popcorn in a darkened theater while
watching a horror movie, both sensation and anxiety are felt. Same feelings,
different environment, different thought context.
A dreamer I'll call Kimara recently shared a dream with me. In the dream,
Kimara was walking though a maze of streets, in and out of and around
buildings, passing other people along the way. Finally, she walked into
another woman's apartment and became very concerned that she was in the
woman's private space. As Kimara was trying to decide whether to go or stay,
a man walked right into her apartment, too.
When awake, Kimara recognized some of the buildings that had appeared in her
dream. When she was younger, she lived in a war zone, although not in the
line of fire. The buildings were part of an event-clump from that period in
her life. The event-clump consisted of the image of her environment plus a
certain level of anxiety and fear.
But the dream was not about Kimara's childhood; it was about a current
occurrence that had triggered the same sort of anxiety. Kimara is a
saleswoman. She travels to various businesses to make presentations and talk
to company representatives. The offices that she visits often consist of a
maze of cubicles she must circumvent in order to get to the person she will
meet. So I asked her, "Where have you been lately - where you had to walk
through halls or past cubicles to get to a woman's office - where you were
nervous about intruding into her space - but where her fellow employees had
no problem barging in?"
When I described her dream by stripping away past imagery and concentrating
on its underlying elements, Kimara had no trouble recalling the recent
daytime event that had invoked her dream. The sensation of motion, the shape
of structure, the number, type and positions of dream characters, the
thoughts and feelings - these were the component parts of her office visit.
So, why didn't she just dream up a literal repeat of that visit? Because
Kimara is not a video camera or a robot. She's not just a pretty face! She's
a thinking, feeling, active organic being. Her waking drama wasn't our
movie, it was her life. It contained all the layers of human experience,
including those that would not be visible to an outside observer, who can
only view the surface of her physical reality.
Kimara was nervous in an environment that she doesn't usually associate with
such fear and anxiety. So the event-clump that was triggered by her feelings
and sensations referred back to an environment that was far more dangerous
than her current one. Small wonder. The event-clump of her childhood is so
potent that she will probably continue to access it, unless the connection
between image and emotion is severed and the anxiety-plus-picture is
rewritten with a new formula.
If a new, more intense event comes along, that picture might replace the old
buildings. Or, through cognitive therapy, Kimara might reprogram herself to
associate anxiety with another picture: one that will help dissipate it. For
instance, fear = a dragon. A dragon can start as a terrifying monster that
morphs over time into a colorful legend that morphs into a cartoon playmate.
I'm not suggesting that Kimara get rid of fear altogether. Fear serves a
very usual purpose, warning us of real potential and imminent danger. I'm
suggesting that Kimara practice techniques to turn down the volume to a
level she can more easily handle.
Spontaneous life occurrences will program potent event-clumps and some may
recur as repeating dreams for years. They are still potent, still active, if
circumstances with the same feeling tones continue to be a factor in our
lives. Sometimes we can change life circumstances so that they, and the
negative feelings that accompany them, become less and less frequent.
Sometimes we can change the images associated with those non-visual
elements, so that they are easier to cope with, or even become a source of
amusement and entertainment! Kimara may not have much say about war in the
larger world, but she has a lot to say about her own private space. There,
she can try out new ways to face up to fear. There, she can come to
appreciate the creative ways in which her inner mind paints the components
that are hidden to our sight.
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The Waves: 09. Dreaming with DNA
Overtone Moon (October 18 to November 14, 2003)
(c) 2003 Nick Cumbo
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The Waves is a newsletter reporting on the explorations of the Sea Life
community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims to bring
together a circle of dreamers from around the globe, collaborating in mutual
dreaming adventures, and 'dreaming with and for the earth itself'
Link:
http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife
James Watson, co-discoverer of the structure of DNA, reported stumbling upon
the double-helix image for the DNA chain through his dream of a spiral
staircase. Picking up on the theme, this month, we set out to learn more
about the role of our DNA structure, and it's relationship with the
conscious mind.
It's commonly accepted that DNA is in some way responsible for the course of
our evolution, and the workings of consciousness. What if it were also
possible for consciousness to alter the structure of DNA?
"Studies by Glen Rein, Ph.D. and Rollin McCraty, Ph.D., have demonstrated
that the quantum fields generated by our human feelings can influence
neurological and immunological functions at the cellular level. These
studies also determined that the strongest "energy generator" in our bodies
is our heart. Furthermore, the energy the heart produces is directly
correlated to what we are feeling.
When we experience deep feelings of love, compassion or appreciation we
align ourselves, that is become coherent with Divine creation. In feeling
these divinely aligned feelings, we radiate these coherent frequencies
throughout the body, which promote health and vitality. Conversely, when we
experience feelings such as anger, anxiety, fear and rage, we directly
affect the body in harmful and damaging ways.
Other experiments have shown that the very molecular building blocks of our
body--the DNA--is directly affected by our emotions. When
angry/fearful/anxious, our DNA twists tightly onto itself forming what I
call a "DNA cramp." The molecule takes a shape that is somewhat like a rope
ladder twisted into a knot. Why this is important is that the crossing of
the DNA strand onto itself determines what genes are turned off or on. The
tighter the "cramp" the less of our DNA--the less of our potential--is acces
sible.
This scenario is played out in the brain as well. When stressed by "DNA
cramping" emotions, our body produces different hormones than during periods
of inner harmony. These stress chemicals such as adrenaline and cortisol
flood our body. This has the effect of chemically denying us access to the
upper, reasoning functions of our brain and increasing access to the lower
fight/flight mechanism. We become limited in our ability to respond from our
full selves. Our body clearly desires to be in harmony and functions best
when in a Divinely-aligned emotional/feeling state."
http://www.spiritpassages.com/newsletter.html
Inspired by this knowledge, I decided to venture into dreaming with the
intention of learning about upcoming changes/mutations in the structure of
my DNA. I was impressed with the results:
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A LITTLE BIRDY TOLD ME
I'm in a small room. An animal is also here with me. It might be a bird. For
some reason, I immediately become sympathetic towards it. Why, I'm not
entirely sure? Perhaps it has been trapped here? The bird somehow picks up
on my thoughts; and immediately sparks up a conversation; telepathically!
The birds 'speech' is fluent, it's words being 'heard', as though we're
having a conversation in English, only without the need for our mouths to
open.
The process in itself is remarkably natural; yet as we continue speaking, I
realise there is a feeling of nervousness/fear, which accompanies the rather
direct conversion of my thoughts to conversation. I begin to worry that the
bird will be bewildered by the strangeness of my thought processes.
Surrounded by its gentle reassurance however, I realise that this is a
mental block built throughout the course of my life, to which I must now
adjust. Letting my feelings about these difficulties be 'spoken', our
communications take on a whole new level of honesty and trust.
At one point, the bird looks on directly into my eyes. Gentle, but also
remarkably intense. I hear another voice, which tells me that the intensity
of staring at it's gaze, disturbs the rational mind of humans, and puts us
in a more spontaneous mental state. Apparently, for the next 15 minutes, or
so, it will be easier to shift directly into conscious dreaming.
Soon after, my younger sister arrives into the room. I find myself
communicating telepathically with her also; not through any conscious effort
on my part, but because I'm now used to this shift in attention. I can feel
the thoughts just roll on into her mind. I'm rather stunned to discover that
she repeats them back exactly as I 'spoke' them, only pausing to clarify the
final word, which indeed she had mistaken.
My sister finds herself taken aback by these new abilities, and promptly
asks me if I can teach her more about telepathy. I think for a moment;
letting her know that resting the attention on the third eye is probably
important, but soon after decide on a much more valuable piece of wisdom,
"Animals are the best teachers".
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In The Cosmic Serpent, Jeremy Narby writes of his conversations with the
Ayahuasqueros from the Peruvian rainforests, who have praised the Serpent
(sometimes appearing in the form of the dragon) as the symbol of Life.
Celestial, a dreamer from Sea Life, described the key themes of the book for
us all. " All across the Peruvian jungle there have been found extensive,
detailed wall paintings, and decorative art, featuring images which
profoundly resembled today's diagrams of molecular biology, (diagrams which
describe the beginning of life on our planet). These pictures are often
painted with two identical snakes, entwined in each other, who the tribes
repeatedly talk about being the centre of all creation, the DNA of life. The
Ayahuasqueros claim to have received this knowledge from two giant snakes,
who appear to them while they are under the visionary influence, of
Ayahuasca (an incredibly powerful hallucinogenic brew).
In a fascinating and seemingly strongly related series of events, Morpheus,
found himself visited by a number of dragons, who appeared to him across a
series of nights, offering to show him and another 5 warriors "the way of
the dragon"; each time beginning where they left off.
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THE WAY OF THE DRAGON.
I am on an Island, alone, but not afraid. The air is dark, the sky riddled
with electrical storms. I hear the beat of wings, growing ever louder and
louder. Looking about me I see no one, and no thing. Suddenly a voice says,
"See; but not with your eyes, see with your ears and mind". I concentrate
and the Island is transformed into a new place, a training hall of some
kind.
A voice behind me says, "Welcome". I look behind me and there stands the
Dragon, "I will teach you the ways of my people". Before, I can speak I'm
bathed in Dragon breath fire. It doesn't hurt me. I'm not burned. Instead
all of my chakra points light up with incredible brilliance. My body becomes
transformed too. More muscular, stronger. I'm a warrior.
We begin to fight with swords and with inner powers. I'm exploding with
power from within. "This is the way of the Dragon" and soon it will be your
way too. Suddenly we stop fighting and he turns away from me, mumbling
something to himself.
5 other warriors appear seemingly from nowhere. The Dragon shouts to the
sky, "these five warriors are worthy of our ways lets us reveal to them the
secrets of the ages". The sky is filled with Dragons. I'm too amazed. I
awaken.
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THE POWER OF THE SHAPE-SHIFTERS
We sit atop an emerald green rock, the wind blowing softly. I can hear the
wind saying something, but I'm not sure what exactly. The atmosphere has a
"Lord of the Rings" type of feeling.
A loud voice says "within the seeds of all of us lay the seeds of all of
us". In this instance a glass of liquid appears before me and the liquid
begins spinning very quickly. Suddenly it stops spinning. As soon as it
does, I see it is a DNA double helix. As I do the 5 appear and I see a
female among them as before. We all drink of the DNA liquid. The voice says,
"It is done".
I look at the 5 and they are all ME!! Then WE are all the WOMAN!! Then we
are changing into each other, experiencing experiences of each other, and
becoming each other. The voice says "and now you know from the same seed you
were made, created and maintained, what separates you is the illusion that
you are separate, your body in the world is too an illusion of solidity or
separateness. Soon you will know the power of the shape-shifters for the 5
and the explorer (explora??) are worthy"....
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I AM LIGHT
I am in the Land of the Dragons; I can see the landscape before me. It is
lush green and very beautiful, the wind is blowing softly as if speaking to
me, "come, come, we are waiting"
Suddenly now I am on water, standing on water, I look down at my feet and I
see the ocean filled with life, creatures never before seen in my physical
world. A sea Dragon comes to me and through telepathy it says, "welcome one
who has chosen the name, we have been waiting for you" the creatures are
light up with an incredible brilliance. I find my self dissolving into the
light merging with it, becoming one with it.
I am transported to another place now, underwater. The five are here with me
we are all being taught to change our shape at will; a bird, a stone, water,
fire, a tree and I become light. My consciousness expands exponentially. I
am at once everywhere flowing with each moment.
I slowly become more focused in my light form, as a laser beam is. "I am
Light", this chant resounds in my mind "I am Light, I am Light". I am guided
down the earth now as if to join my "friends" we, in each of our forms
"stand" atop a large cliff. There are lights all around us and in the sky
there are circling 3 large dragon-like creatures. "It is time", I hear these
words in my head and yet also in the space around me. I think we all do,
because we all hold "hands", when the last link is made. The 3 Dragons stop
circling above and descend upon us, breathing hot flames. At first I am
afraid, but I soon realise that the fire is not harming any of us.
I being to hear thoughts that are not my own. The dragon's fire is causing
us to merge into one being (it is hard to explain how this creature looks,
made of fire, light and water and clothed in earth). We speak to the dragon.
Its as though a huge chorus is speaking, not one voice or five voices but
hundreds, perhaps thousands.
With a "smile" and a look that says, "I am pleased" the dragon says "it is
done, you are now one".
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It seems appropriate then to end with a quote from another site, Star
Knowledge, which also brings together the concept of changes in our DNA,
leading to a shift in consciousness resulting in awareness of our oneness,
and the activation of the light body.
http://www.star-knowledge.net/
"It is time for the Star Knowledge people to emerge. Their timeless chunks
of info are relative to the now. Star Knowledge people are seed bearers of
the Light coming through the planet at this time. These Light Bearers or
B'nai Or (Hebrew - Sons of the Light) are message carriers at the cellular
level. The DNA codes are being restructured and this will allow the Light
Body to connect with the physical body. This is necessary for us to use this
body as a Light vehicle for travelling to other dimensions. This is the
millennium's new way of travel. It is activating now." Grandmother Chandra
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Stay tuned next moon for the results of our 'Dreaming with the Departed'
project. We welcome new dreamers to join us in our adventures.
Email:
explora@...
Forum:
http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife
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Review of Jung: A Biography by Deirdre Bair
Reviewed by Jeremy Taylor
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Reprinted with permission of Jeremy Taylor
Originally prepared for a manual for students at
the Marin Institute for Projective Dream Work
I have just finished reading the new biography of Carl Gustav Jung by
Deirdre Bair, JUNG - a Biography, (Little Brown, New York, 2003), all 880
pages of it. I also read Troy Jollimore's review from the Sunday San
Francisco Chronicle of December 7th, in which he praises the book (with
faint damns), and reluctantly admits it, "...is a must-read for anyone with
a serious interest in Jung, or inn any of the fields and disciplines in
which he played an important role."
I agree completely, but rather than trashing the book for its voluminous
detail, (the way Jollimore and others have done), I would say it another
way: Bair's book is just NOT the biography to read first.
If you are not already familiar with the broad outlines of Jung's life and
work, or of the seminal importance of his ideas in a startlingly wide range
of academic disciplines and popular arts, then I would suggest starting off
reading Claire Dunne's brief biography, Carl Jung: Wounded Healer of the
Soul - An Illustrated Biography, with a (charming) introduction by Jean
Houston, (Parabola Books, New York, 2000), and/or Laurens van der Post's
wonderful work, JUNG and the Story of Our Time, (Pantheon Books, New York,
1975.)
Prior to reading Bair's book, the van der Post biography was my pick as
"best full-length biography of Jung", and it's still the best one to read
first. Gehard Wehr's, An Illustrated Biography of Jung, (Shambala, Boston &
Shaftsbury, 1989), is also worth your attention.
202 of the book's 880 pages, (that's 23%!), of Bair's book are devoted to
footnotes, (in tiny print.) Most of them are elaborate references to the
multiple sources that she uses to verify the details of Jung's life that she
provides in the text. I wish I could tell you all to just ignore them, but
for me, some of the most important information in the book appears in the
occasional substantive footnotes that are scattered among the references.
The index is excellent, but alas, given the fascinating and important
information that is hidden away in many of the footnotes, the index does not
cover people or events that appear only in the notes and not in the text.
For example, it is only in the notes that I discovered that Jung "...said he
read seven volumes of Swedenborg's writings." (p. 665) Emmanuel Swedenborg
was a scientist in the dawning age of modern science whose researches took
him past the physical/phenomenal world into the realms of psychological and
spiritual experience with a totally fresh and compelling perspective.
Swedenborg was a contemporary of, and a tremendous influence on William
Blake, and Swedenborg's influence on Jung is very important, in my view. Had
I ignored the footnotes, I would have missed this indication of the depth
and breadth of Jung's spiritual research, and his kinship not only with the
Gnostics, but also with the Romantics and the roots of liberal, non-credal
religion.
It was also only in the footnotes that I discovered that another of my great
intellectual and artistic heroes, the American poet Charles Olson, had an
extended public conversation with Jung at the close of a lecture Jung gave
at Harvard in 1936, in which Olson "...questioned Jung on the mandala figure
in Moby Dick." This information is as important to me in my pursuit of
influences on Olson's life and work, as the Swedenborg connection is to my
interest in the influences on the life and work of Jung himself.
Alas, neither Swedenborg nor Olson appear in the index.
Bair also offers many of her most important opinions and conclusions in the
footnotes. After giving Richard Noll, (perhaps Jung's most vocal and
determined detractor at the beginning of the 21st century), extensive credit
for his scholarship and research, Bair finally rejects the implications and
conclusions of Noll's work, in a footnote : "Noll's thesis is so submerged
in bile and damnation-by-analogy that his considerable scholarship (for
which I have great respect, and from which I have benefited) must be called
into question." (p, 741)
Perhaps the greatest service that Bair's biography provides is that she
gathers the verifiable data that answers so many of the distressing
accusations and rumors that still swirl around and surround Jung's life and
work, as they have for more than 70 years.
Was he a compulsive womanizer? He most certainly was, as documented in many
journals and interviews with the descendants of many woman who were in
analysis with him. Was he a Nazi sympathizer and/or an anti-Semite? Clearly
not, as demonstrated by his indefatigable struggles with the Nazi
psychiatric and mental health establishment, his continuous efforts on
behalf of Jewish refugees, and his work with Alan Dulles, the prime American
OSS agent stationed in Switzerland. At Dulles' request, Jung prepared
regular and extensive analyses of Nazi propaganda and German culture for
Churchill and Eisenhower, and even recruited secret agents to work for
Dulles from among his friends and analytic clients.
Were his formulations of the archetypes associated with masculine and
feminine a reflection of the unquestioned institutional sexism of his time?
Very clearly they were, as evidenced by the ways in which he treated the men
who wanted to become analysts differently from the way he treated the women,
demanding that the men all acquire medical degrees and training, when he
made no such demands on the women, whom he discouraged from medical careers.
He also actively prevented his own daughters from attending university, or
receiving any higher education, while at the same time urging many of his
closest women clients and associates to devote themselves to scholarly
research on obscure topics, research that he then made extensive use of in
his own writings, most often without giving them any public credit for their
scholarly work.
Bair also clarifies a situation that has distressed me personally since I
first read Jung's "so-called autobiography" (his own words), Memories,
Dreams, Reflections, many decades ago - namely that Jung's actions and
opinions during World War II are all but totally ignored in that work. It
turns out that Jung did write an extended chapter on his experience in that
era, but since Jung died before that book made it into print, his family
heirs all insisted that his revelations about that period of his life be
stricken from the text.
The final chapters of Bair's book make it very clear that the struggles
between Jung's heirs, who wish to keep the details of their family history
completely private, and the needs of a larger world who require the best
information we can get about the life and times of this important shaper of
world culture, continue with undiminished vigor, partisanship, and venom,
even today. There is also an indication, (also hidden away in a foot note),
that the heirs are "in negotiation" to allow Jung's famous and stunningly
beautiful Red Book, filled with his psycho-spiritual explorations and his
exquisitely beautiful paintings, to be published in their "entirety". Once
again, what constitutes "entirety" is apparently being hotly contested...
Jung's "feet of clay" throughout his life are made abundantly clear in
Bair's research, along with constant indications and intimations of his
genius. She concludes, correctly in my estimation, with a sentiment given
shape by Samuel Taylor Coleridge in his Notebooks more than 100 years
earlier: "He looked at his own Soul with a Telescope. What seemed all
irregular, he saw and shewed to be beautiful Constellations: and he added to
the Consciousness worlds within worlds."
The Rev. Dr. Jeremy Taylor is the founder/director of the 'Marin Institute
for Projective Dream Work', a co-founder and a past president of
International Association for the Study of Dreams. More information about
his training and certification program for dream workers can be found at:
http://www.jeremytaylor.com
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Transgressive Dreamworks:
Theorizing the Exceeding of Limits
and the Creation of Improvizones
Richard Catlett Wilkerson
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"This may frighten us a little. Dreams are often socially transgressive.
They chafe at boundaries, championing the rude, lewd, and wholly
unacceptable."
Marc Ian Barasch - Healing Dreams
Transgressive: Exceeding a limit or boundary, especially of social
acceptability. Creating an opening between or at the limit of dominant
powers for alternatives.
Dreamworks: Approaches to dreams before, during and after the actual dream.
Improvizone : A temporary space or clearing where as sense of improvisation
and creative freedom take precedence over plans and structures. The abstract
world of improvizones may be called the Improverse.
Transgressive Dreamwork
Transgressive dreamwork seeks to pass beyond prescribed limits and
boundaries without define itself against or in opposition to these
boundaries as necessary conditions. Transgressive acts are often seen as
"against" established social values and norms, but this is only because of
the tight control that the dominate powers exert over all time and space.
The particular and even general 'how' and 'why' transgressive dreamwork
might take place vary according to a wide variety of contexts, situations,
events and their informing values. These transgressions can also open up a
kind of improvised universe, novel zones of semi-autonomous creativity,
improvizones. This may be a simple as a musician veering from the planned
musical score or as complex as the social spaces opened in ritual dance
ceremonies of tribal peoples. Dreamworks (approaches to dreams) that subvert
repressive powers and create spaces where improvisational activity dominates
may be considered as transgressive dreamworks.
Transgressive dreamwork's most basic level is the act of dreaming itself.
The actions in dreams may at times themselves be seen as transgressive acts
and dreaming itself subverts dominate cultural attitudes about consciousness
and waking. There are many ways that dreaming and dreams seek out or
encounter limitations and pass beyond them, seek out repressive structures
and destructure them, seek out fixed representations and loosen them,
encounter attitudes, beliefs and values, and question them, display
ideologies, biases and prejudices, and expose them.
Transgressive dreamwork appears in most forms of dreamwork, though not
always in the service of subverting repressive authorities and producing
novel alternatives and improvizones.
A quick survey of Twentieth Century dreamwork may give some weight to the
first part of this statement, that it appears in most forms of dreamwork.
Psychoanalyst Paul Lippmann [1] , notes that the early pioneers of
psychoanalysis were very excited by the new notions of the unconscious and
in constant discussions around the possibilities presented by dreams.
Patients with psychological disorders might exhibit strange configurations
of behavior opening up the inspection of the person out of control, but
everyone had dreams that transgressed the consciously controlled system.
Freud's "dream-work" became the first model of how transgression works at
the level of primary process, and the processes are now part of our general
language system; displacement, projection, condensation, substitution,
symbolization, substitution and so on.
Carl Jung[2] was not to be outdone in the area of transgressive dreamwork.
At each level of work, the analysand finds that all they have acquired must
make way for new forces that need to come through. Rather than stopping at
the personal unconscious as Freud did, Jung found that there were deeper
forces attempting to transgress stodgy aspects of the personality that
hinder the integration of rejected parts of the self. At each point in the
movement from personal to archetypal, the dream functions as an index of
transgression, providing just-barely-conscious symbolic presentations of new
plateaus supported by the tension of irreconcilable opposites. These are
gains that consciousness can barely tolerate. And further, it enacts and
constructs these mesas of the soul in the crazy wisdom of dreams, in
deterritorialized area where the known and unknown form limits past which
only the partial sane, and the dream mind, can maneuver. That is, reason is
given its due as a partner, but is not at the center of the development.
While these Depth therapies served to liberate the few who could afford
their time and expense, the group therapies of the Sixties brewed a
transgressive dreamwork available to everyone, and is now disseminated
across the globe through grassroots dreamwork movements. Here, there is an
implicit understanding that the king has no clothes and authoritarian forms
of control and interpretation are as suspect and undesirable in larger
political arenas as they are in the individual psyche. There is no one
technique or school. These newer transgressive dreamworks form a collage, a
pastiche, a bric-a-brac collection, a kind of hypertexted inter-net that
resist any singular characterization. Even calling the collection
"grassroot" is stretching that category beyond what it can reasonably be
asked to hold, as many of the new transgressive dreamworks combine with and
emerge from institutions and traditional therapies and spiritual practices.
Many of these dreamworks rely heavily upon Freud and Jung, providing
techniques for transgressing the superficial, breaking down the mundane, and
running rough shod over the inauthentic. Others shift the attention from
interpretative techniques to methods of encounter, transgressing the whole
subject/object dichotomy (as in my dream and its objects) and thereby
transgressing the tendencies to treat the world as an object altogether.
Still others transgress the notion of work in dreamwork and undermine the
representational approaches by making dreams an existential encounter with
the imaginal, whether as a conscious or lucid encounter with the dream, or
in using the dream as a recreational vehicle, subverting all notions of
"work" in dreamwork.
Transgressive dreamwork appears in most forms of dreamwork, but not all
dreamwork is subversive of authority and productive to creative
alternatives. Some tribal dreamwork, for example, has tended to be in the
service of the tribe. Tedlock[3] relays the story of a young Hopi who tells
his dream to a village elder. She shows him how the dream is about changing
his behavior, and in ways that support the tribe. There is a value of living
in scarcity, with little water and food, and the dreams are interpreted to
bring the members into alignment with this value. True, the dream is used to
transgress the wasteful pattern of the dreamer, and a case could be made
that this transgression was to open the dreamer to a more creative pathway,
but this misses an essential point in transgressive dreamwork as I am
following it here. Transgression has its own inner value, and when it is
picked up to be used in the service of some other value, this "other" value
needs to be made transparent, or else the transgression is just another
brick in the wall.
Freud, though he elaborated the basic wheels and cogs of a transgressive
primary process at work in the dream, then turns and abandons his project
for one singular transgressive; sexuality. Freud may be credited with having
most clearly articulated and studied and having brought into the cultural
sphere the concept of a transgressive libido. But just exactly at the moment
he does so, he restricts this libido to a narrow channel that follows a
predetermined path of development.
Transgressive dreamwork employed in the 21st Century is likely to continue
acknowledging and developing sexuality theory, but to have this particular
Freudian representation of the libido as only one among many. Perhaps the
libido will be seen, as Deleuze and Guattari[4] say, in Freud's pre-genital
child, the notion of perverse polymorphism, where the whole body is an
erogenous zone and makes direct connections, not with an object of desire,
but in waves and swarms of connective networks of partial objects.
Transgressive dreamworks finds it hard to swallow the whole Jungian system
as well. Even though a close examination of Jung reveals that dream symbols
are not simple representations, the tendency to eschew the temptation to
say, "This represents that myth" and, "That is the so and so archetype" is
just too great to resist. One post-Jungian psychology has attempted to
subvert this tendency by always using the work "archetype" in its adjectival
form "archetypal" and never a noun, so that one may have an archetypal
encounter, but never define some-thing as an archetype.[5]
More broadly, transgressive dreamworks are suspicious of any system, group
or organization. That doesn't mean that systems, groups and organizations
are never used, only that they are taken up with a more transversal purpose
in mind, with a sense that they are a boat to get to the other side, a coat
wore lightly and a project taken on temporarily. As Plato noted, Eros sleeps
naked in the doorway.
Transgressive dreamwork in Psi and Lucid dreaming
One of the emerging transgressive dreamworks is dream psi and all the
related paranormal theorizing that transgresses our current rational view of
the world. As the Maimonides Project showed,[6] dreams and psi are closely
connected and all sorts of psi phenomenon are amplified or more noticeable
in the dream state. To the degree that there are connections from the
dreaming state to remote places, remote times and previously designated
subjective states and private psyches, psi dreaming presents itself as a
transgressive act and theory. This recently (last 20 years) happened with
lucid dreaming.[7] There was a great deal of sentiment before the empirical
validation of lucid dreaming that there were only two natural states,
conscious and unconscious. Some scientists rejected the notion of lucid
dreaming based on this model, claiming that being conscious in a dream was
contradiction in terms. Now the privacy of the act of dreaming is being
challenged by psi and mutual dreaming, were two or more people inhabit a
single dream. If we are in fact in contact with other being and objects
during sleep, a whole host of new ethical and social issues arise. The
notion of ownership of one's own mind comes into question. These theorists
are now developing their own topical conferences (PsiberDreaming
Conferences) within the larger organization for dreams, the International
Association for the Study of Dreams (ASD).[8]
Postmodern dreamworks
Touted as the transgressive literature and philosophy par excellence, the
body of postmodern work seems as if it would be a natural fit with
dreamwork. After all, they drew heavily upon Surrealism. Surrealism in the
1920's- 1930's Paris was a vast cultural movement like the Sixties in
America.[9] They questioned authority, they re-examined taboos, they
challenged norms and they produced alternative lifestyles. They valorized
dreams as a transgression of the humdrum everyday world of mechanized trance
and social niceties, and an opening to the Surreal beyond the mundane. One
would think the poststructuralists of the 50's and 60's who inherited these
values would rely heavily on dreamwork, but they didn't.
The story of how dreamwork was missed by the French Poststructual theorists
has not really been very well researched or studied. Whether we talk about
Foucault, Derrida, Baudrillard, Deleuze & Guatteri or Lyotard, we find they
each avoided dreamwork for their own reasons. But a few generalizations are
possible. I find it interesting that these postmodern writers learn
psychoanalysis through Jacques Lacan. Freud's followers abandoned dreamwork
very early, and Freud laments this move later in his life. "Abandon" may be
too harsh a word, but once the games of transference and defense analysis
took root, work with dreams took a very back seat. This means that by the
time psychoanalysis is taken up by Lacan, dreamwork is not a major player.
And Lacan has little to say on the issue as a Structuralist who feels
interpretive dreamwork is just burdening the already intertwined sign system
of a reported dream with a socially constructed Symbolic overlay.
Yet Lacan brought psychoanalysis to France in a way that could be accepted
as French. Freud's theory was often seen as an exploration of the conflict
between instinct and culture, and that this conflict found various
compromise solutions. For Lacan, the psyche itself was the conflictual
intrusion and the fracture it created eternally irresolvable. Our contact
with universal instincts is forever barred the moment we take on language.
Dreams, associations and slips-of-the-tongue are as much impacted by this
representational language system as they are by repressed desires. In fact,
those desires become characterized as an absence around which the structures
revolve. The dream no longer represents some hidden thought, but rather
becomes an intrusion between the real we cannot know and the imaginary we
can never have. While appetites can be filled, desire cannot and must be
held (or the patient falls into the illusion and dances out the
unconscious). One sacrifices the illusion of wholeness to gain the world.
This is another way of saying that the postmodern style is that of collage,
and if there is a "whole" it emerges indirectly from the interaction of the
pieces.
On the other side of the equation, the American dreamwork movement drew
heavily upon Jung, not Freud. The whole notion that a dream is telling us
something and producing a positive product is pure Jung. The idea that the
dream can be situated in our value system by locating its themes in
religious stories, myths and fairytales is pure Jung.
Further distancing dreamworks and French postmodern theorist is language.
The texts of the postmodern writers have been all but unavailable to the
general American public. Most Americans will, when asked about Surrealism,
respond that it has something to do with melting clocks. And not only did
poststructuralism pass by non-academic Americans, but structuralism as well.
There wasn't a single Lacanian institute before the 1990's and graduate
students are hard pressed to find a single course on his psychoanalysis in a
university or state college. Postmodernism entered the US universities in
the late 1960's, but Derrida and Deleuze are taught in the Language and
English departments, not in philosophy departments. Translations of their
work before the 1980-1990's were difficult to come by.
And so the two, dreamwork and structuralism/poststructuralism, passed each
other in the night without meeting. Perhaps to the relief of many. I asked
a University of Davis professor about Derrida (Who recently had his archives
installed at that site) and he was very unhappy with Derrida being at the
campus and said he had just tried to ruin everything. Other have
characterized postmodern writers as "Men with hammers."
But here, we are going to look at them more as people with screwdrivers that
fit the bonds that keep various social and personal prison doors closed.
Instead of destroying structure, transgressive dreamworks may be see as
loosening the structures just enough to slip through.
Since these two traditions share strong transgressive attitudes, they may
complement one another by being read together. Dreams and dreamwork offer
postmodernism a channel that is universal but still poly-channeled,
multidimensional, heteromodal and off-center. Postmodern theory offers
dreamwork an opportunity to situate itself politically, globally,
philosophically, and culturally as well as just being an inward journey for
personal psychospiritual growth.
Theorizing transgressive dreamwork using the tools of postmodern writers
One of the grandfathers of the postmodern theorists and masters of
transgression, Frederich Nietzsche,[10] was a sworn enemy of nihilism on one
hand, and totalitarianism on the other. And yet, many think of him as a
nihilist, focusing on the first task of transgressive work (subverting
repressive structures) while ignoring the second (opening to alternatives).
In the second part of Nietzsche's transgressive task, he worked to develop a
path through which new heights of freedom could be reached. This leads us to
his notion of power and will. Typically, we confuse power and will with
effort and brute force. But for Nietzsche, forces took two forms, one active
the other reactive. Reactive forces might be called inauthentic forces,
forces that withhold their essence for secondary gains. Active forces are
deeply in touch with the source that generates an endless flow of power
related to that force or set of forces. I think of Anthony Quinn in Zorba
the Greek[11]as a kind of model of this Dionysian fountain of power, a
character that lived fully his own essence in the moment and could give
continually from this source, always overflowing in its own abundance.
Often we are left with this fascist view of the Overman, as if Nietzsche's
superman was modeled along the lines of a Nazi. Rather, his Overman was yet
to be achieved, and more the continual enactment of freedom and choice. The
test was the eternal return, the ability to live in this moment as if it
were to repeat eternally. And, as Deleuze suggests, the repetition is from a
source that continually differs from itself, not one that is
self-identical.[12] That is, the eternal return is a vibrant repetition of
difference rather than a mechanical repetition of the same. Monet creates a
water lily and then repeats these lilies across the canvas and across many
paintings. But it's not the same water lily. The second and third repeat the
first, but their beauty is in the repetition of the difference of the first.
The Festival is not a new festival each year, but repeats the first festival
over and over and celebrates not through the repetition of the same, but of
the different.
We see this play out in dreams. Combat trauma and many PTSD sufferers often
report nightmares that repeat the same, over and over. The dream gets stuck
in a mechanical repetition of the same. Therapy that brings imaginative play
to the dreamer, such as re-entry techniques, allows the dream to repeat the
essential differences. That is, the dream begins to morph. The Dionysian
quality of the dream returns and its generous abundance overflows the
reactive forces that seek to sap its novelty.
Transgressive dreamworks may wish to note both aspects of Nietzsche's
project, undermining dictators full of reactive forces and the location of
active forces that withstand the test of the eternal return and open the
pathway to a humanity that can exceed itself. From this general idea, one
could formulate a transgressive dreamwork developed by postmodernism. The
first part is that dreams are often already full of active forces and
reactive which question, tease and play with authority and beliefs, and
that a dreamwork which assisted and cooperated with these active forces will
be more naturally transgressive than one that caters to reactive forces.
However loud one may proclaim with Nietzsche that the ideologies and powers
above us are now gone (Nietzsche's famous "God is dead"), the tendency of
humans to remain somewhat less than supermen persists. And while the world
has grown tired of dictators and totalitarian leaders at the level of state
government, there are plenty of states of mind left that are still reactive,
that withhold themselves in deference to another power, that undermine their
own authenticness in favor of an imposed value. Transvaluation; this is the
process where forces create their own values rather than being saddled with
those imposed upon them. But before we start talking about creating new
values, we need to understand the ones which imprison us now and to be
transgressive rather than reactive.
Jean-Francios Lyotard[13] writes that we live in a world of story telling
and narrative, each of which makes some claim to the truth and claims some
proximity to the truth. Lyotard notes that each story is situated in the
context and language of a particular discipline. Science stories are from
the institutions of Science, Religious stories couches in the language of
Religion, Political stories in the language of Politics, Psychological
stories in the language of Psychology and so on. Its like a bunch of
virtual realities, each governed by the protocols of that particular game.
And so, the way we can talk about anything becomes governed by the narrow
rules of any particular game. Of course, these disciplines don't like to
see themselves as limited and just telling stories. So they come up with a
metanarrative, a grand story that applies to or comments on the validity of
all other stories. Note how one's life story or a set of scientific
experiments might judged by their relation to progress, truth, and justice.
Might be, but can no longer be. There is no Grand Narrative that mediates
between all these different stories and values. There is no globally agreed
upon basis for any singular viewpoint. But if power is not imposed on us
from above anymore, don't think it's missing in how it's imposed on us from
below. Media bytes and society bits are everywhere. Commercial infestations
and shopping choices. Yet if everything can be oppressive, then one can find
transgressions in the simplest of everyday experience, what is referred to
as micropolitics.
This leads to the notion in transgressive dreamwork that we are engaging
these imposed values in our dreams. And in fact, much of dreamwork has been
about engaging values and beliefs and challenging them. This is perhaps the
reason that dream sharing is found at the beginning of every major religion,
and then later banned by the hierarchical authorities.[14] The vibrant,
novel visions that both predict and create the authority for a force to
express it own power, then are judged to be too radical and antithetical to
a hierarchical structure.
What Lyotard adds to Nietzsche that may help a transgressive dreamwork
develop is his theorizing around the many tiny ways in which reactive powers
attempt to control the scenes we inhabit, and the ability and freedom this
gives us to find appropriate transgressive acts at micropolitical levels.
Since dreams contain many of these acts already in relation to society, it's
just a matter of cultivating these active forces, both in and outside of the
dream.
If we don't appeal to general moral universals as an index of transgression,
what can be used as a guide to the limit? One model employed by Gilles
Deleuze and Felix Guattari[15]is the limit created between coded and decoded
flows. Most of our conscious life is involved with coded territory. This
includes not only all the social rules, but also genetic and physical
organization and codes. Deleuze and Guattari see everything in flux, in a
flow and in flow-breaks. Even mountains dissolve into the sea.
Organizations attempt to code the flows into particular channels rather than
allowing deterritorialized movement. That is, they attempt to turn all
forces into reactive forces. Most of the time, we passively accept these
codes and stay away from the wall, the wall outside of which flow is not
coded. Neurotics become so sensitive to this limit that their own inner
walls become tighter and tighter, until they can't even leave their house.
Others more perverse know where the limit is, but stay just inside the wall
and pick off vulnerables who get too close to the limit. We can see this in
those who love lunar societies and who hang out at the edges of the
school-yard. Many dreamworkers learn this game. Then there are those who
just run smack into the limit without realizing it and find themselves in
decoded territory and get tossed back. The schizophrenic comes apart at the
seams here as the abstract and the real change places. There is no proper
place in relation to the limit. We can't abstract a position. But we can
note where and how the coded and decoded flows are distributed, subverting
the more repressive codes, breaking into them and creating new flows. What
Deleuze and Guattari offer as theorists is an approach to this project that
undercuts any conscious attempt to reconstruct another dictator in place of
the ones overthrown. This is always the risk and chance we take in
subverting local and distant authority. Guattari's response is soft
revolution, where there are no rules, just a continual chaosimosis, where
free spaces can only last for a short time, long enough to do their thing,
but not long enough to start self-organ-inzing. Deleuze's response is to
generate concepts; partial-object desiring machines, bodies-without-organs,
repetitions of difference, planes of immanence across which nomadic forces
traverse rhizomatic deterritorializations. Perhaps all this work would have
been easier had Deleuze & Guattari been more engaged with their dreamlife.
Again, the point is not so much to take up Deleuze's concepts and apply them
to dreamwork, but rather to suggest that picking up the spirit of the work
and move into temporary autonomous zones[16] where the forces have a chance
to directly and actively overflow their own inner differences.
What is the purpose of pursuing an alignment with theorists, many of which
are now dead, and the point of backtracking into postmodern theory, when a
transgressive dreamworks will by nature seek out its own limits? Pomo
theory may not be able to offer anything more than the positive process of
enhancement, which doesn't sound like a transgressive value in itself. But
for new dreamworks to emerge, old theories need re-working and postmodern
theorists offer a wide assortment of theoretical tools.
Just to mention briefly again a few of the shared issues:
Representations. At one time, representations were objects in the service of
true copies of reality. As copy theories of reality began to erode, so did
representationalism. Now the representations are acquiring their own
autonomous status and no longer find themselves in the service of accurately
reproducing reality. In transgressive dreamworks, dream images are acquiring
their own existential status.
The Self. Once the battle cry of individualism, the unified natural self is
now in question and the polyvocal soul is in emergence. But freedom from the
hierarchy on high has led to suffering the infestation of the viral from
below. Breaking free of the torments of the One and the Many is as much an
issue for transgressive dreamwork as it is for postmodern culture.
Reality. Both postmodern theory and dreaming continual play with reality and
questions about reality. Western philosophy still struggles with Descartes'
dream question, how can we know this is not a dream? Postmodern theory and
transgressive dreamworks not only question our concepts of reality, but
produce transgressions that undermine the whole concept.
Minority Reports. Both transgressive dreamworks and postmodern theory
continually give voice to and speak for the marginalized, the repressed, the
minority. This is not so much because they are repressed and marginalized,
but that this is the site where repression and marginalization appear the
clearest and transgressive acts are possible.
Stories. It is clear we live in a sea of stories and coming up with more to
avoid this fact is not at all as interesting and productive as looking at
how stories are constructed and producing them ourselves. The other part of
this is continually realizing the stories of which we are only partially
conscious. Postmodern theory and transgressive dreamworks delve deeply into
these ideologies, metanarratives and personal fascisms.
Self-humor. Transgressive dreamwork is always self-destined to self-destruct
as it transgresses itself. That is, if the true production of transgression
is the production of difference rather than the repetition of the same, each
act undoes the last. Suggestions about how it has developed or how it is
going to develop drag the project back into the geometrically abstract
structural world of the ideal rather than the world of real contact.
Again I would remind you of Zorba the Greek. Every project he was involved
with seemed on one level a disaster. And yet there was so much authenticity
in stumbling, it began to take on its own rhythms and became a dance of
life. In the end, the protagonist (Basil) who comes to the island and
encounters Zorba as a kind of force of nature, fails at all his attempts to
commodify the island, but learns more about life than he could have ever
dreamed. Or perhaps, as he could have dreamed had he practiced more
transgressive dreamworks.
-Richard Wilkerson
January 1, 2004
Postmodern dreaming theorists' essays can be found on the Postmodern
Dreaming Page
http://www.dreamgate.com/pomo
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Psychoanalysis And In Contemporary Culture. Presentation at the Association
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2. Jung, C. G. (1953) The Collected Works. Translated by R. C. F. Hull.
Bollingen Series XX, vol.s 1-20, Princeton: Princeton University Press.
3. Tedlock, Barbara (1981). Dreaming: Anthropological and Psychological
Interpretations. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
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Schizophrenia. Minneapolis: Univ. of Minn Press. Originally Published as
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6. Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2002 Sept). A Briefing on the History of
Dream Psi Research . Electric Dreams 9(9).
7. LaBerge, S. (1985). Lucid Dreaming. New York: Ballantine Books. See
the website at
http://www.lucidity.com
8. See
http://www.asdreams.org for the International Association for the
Study of Dreams (ASD).
9. Lévy, Bernard-Henri (1995). Adventures on the Freedom road: French
Intellectuals in the 20th Century. Translated by Richard Veasey. London: The
Harvill Press.
10. Nietzsche, Frederich (1967). Basic Writing of Nietzsche. Translated by
Walter Kaufmann. New York: The Modern Library.
11. Kazantzakis, Nikos (1946/1995). Zorba the Greek. Republished by Simon
and Schuster. The movie, by Michael Cacoyannis stared Anthony Quinn (Zorba)
and Alan Bates (Basil), Irene Pappas and Lila Kedrova.
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Hugh Tomlinson. New York: Columbia University.
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Benjamin. Oxford, UK: Basil Blackwell Ltd.
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interview from the Thinking Allowed series. Conversations On The Leading
Edge Of Knowledge and Discovery With Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove. Transcripts
available online at:
http://www.intuition.org/txt/taylor.htm
15. See note 4.
16. See Hakim Bey and Ontological Anarchy: The Writings of Hakim Bey.
Available online at:
http://www.hermetic.com/bey/
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Message: 699-001
Subject: Re: in the dark
do u overthink your decisions be4 making them? if so this could be the
reason why u find yourself going back to the house u want that comfort and
security that go along with it. i think the lights flickering has to do
with faulty wiring ie: faulty thinking. u keep on going back to the same
place and doing the same things over and over again (which is where the
giant loop comes in) what the dream is trying to tell u is that u need to
find that comfort and security within your own life. because your parents
and that home won't always be there for u. if u want more light bulbs to go
on rather than off over your head u need to have more faith in yourself and
move on. u said they were painting the leaves and dirt to make it look more
real. ie: false sense of security by going into that house. it's nice and
amusing to hang out with your folks (which is what the dream was telling u
exhibits in a giant park) and spend time with them but it's not really the
answer to your problems just a nice distraction from them. anyway sorry i
didn't get back to u sooner i have a lot going on and not. the things that
r not going on r the things i have no control over. ie:someone's else
thoughts and feelings. anyway your not the only one lost in this world
going around in circles at least your aware of what's going on unlike most
folks.
[ed.note: since this text references a dream from last month, I've left the
original dream here, for easy of reference.]
hen_na_yume <
hen_na_yume@...> wrote:11/12/03
I am in a house that is my parents house. The surrounding environment is a
loop of sorts, that i can only call a tour-of-
subconscious. i can only compare it, to a giant park with exhibits here and
there, and a road with a tour bus that goes around. at night there isnt
supposed to be anyone outside (like the movie westworld). there is
maintenance done at night, which i notice at a point when i am trapped
outside, lost somewhere. at this point i observe people spraying leaves or
dirt on an area, to make it look authentic. i remember wandering around,
searching, in the dark, because there is no light. A vehicle with people
encounters me, and takes me back to the house I was in before. It is so
dark. There
is an upstairs area, where I am trying to get the lights working. I recall
trying different things to get them to work (not sure what they were
anymore). I get them to work, but they are so dim it isnt even close to
being good enough. I go down the stairs, and I find my parents. I ask
them, (because they were out all this time, and they just got back) how do I
turn the lights on? They tell me I can't because (I forgot why). The
answer they give me is very indirect, I recall. I am only going to be
comfortable when the lights turn on. And they never do.
notes: I am leaving some major things out because I cant remember them.
I've had numerous dreams with lights that dont work and being trapped in
houses with lights that wont work. This was one of the more extensive
dreams of this sort.
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Message: 699-002
Subject: HERE'S MY INTERPRETATION HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO U!
what was smooth becomes knotted, what was paradise turns to muck, what was
in your own backyard is now too far away to bother with. i'm thinking that
things are not as they seem. that u are very optimistic and maintain a
positive view and it's not that u give up too easily it's that u have
trouble remaining motivated. that u very often let your outside interests
get in the way of your personal relationships. u work too hard and take the
people around u for granted. u need to let them help u. u don't need to
take the world on by yourself and u shouldn't have too. u get so
preoccupied with details that u distort them and make them seem like
something more than what they are. try not to overwhelm yourself or take
things too seriously your a very literal person. sometimes your
relationships/friendships are more worth building on than whatever it is
your currently working on. take more time out for yourself and bring
someone with you. the dream images i'm getting is: tree of life and salt of
the earth (u mentioned the rocks were cube shaped like salt crystals) i
think the knotts in the tree represented stress and undue tension you've
been experiencing. i know some of this sounds snyde and a bit too personal
but there's a great deal of too much personal information in this dream.
and your lucky most people don't have their dreams reach out and grab the
hell out of them the way yours seem to do. the man who was with u you didn't
know who he was cuz u didn't bother to get to know him as a person but u
intuitively knew he was there to help you. let the people around u who care
about you help you. signing off for now. bye! have a happy thanksgiving!
[ed.note: I have again left the original dream in place, for ease of
reference]
Kayne <
darth_kayne@...> wrote:
I joined another group before realizing it was completely dead. I copied
this from the other post - Currently I don't have a lot of time to keep a
detailed journal, so this is something from an era when I had more time. I
also belong to a lucid dream group, but I sometimes have to doubt the
sincerity of some of the people there. The posts here seem more like real
dreams. At least more like the kind of dreams I have (Maybe you should all
be worried??).
Anyway, here's one nights worth of insanity, from a while back...
I was in the woods near where I live. The trees were strange - They were
huge, the bark was grey and smooth, but knotted in many places. The trunks
were really thick, and the branches were interwound. I went up a hill, and
on top of the hill there was a cluster of big rocks - they were brown, and
cube-like (like salt crystals, only brown, and the edges of the squares were
rounded). I looked out from the top of the hill and I was in a large
forest - there were trees (green) as far as I could see, and far away a
large fairly smooth rock - like part of a mountain - that was pale
blue/white - maybe
like a glacier. There was somebody else with me. I did not know him. We
wanted to get to the rock to investigate it, but it was too far away. I
started walking through the bushes, but soon there was ice everywhere. All
the leaves had fallen and turned brown. The ice was like slush/ wet snow. I
broke through it to my ankles then my knees, until I was wading through it.
It was not cold, but we could not make it to the rock formation.
-break-
I was reading a book about psychology/behavior. It was a simple book, like
something that might have been on a supermarket shelf. Not really worth
paying attention too, I thought. There was a story in it about a woman, I
think. Somebody had written, 'if you cared you would stop' - by someone who
meant something. I said, 'something was a long time ago, love'.
-I woke up
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Message: 700-001
Subject: Spiders
dream_title: Spiders
dream_date: 26/11/2003
dreamer_name: Ingrid
dream_text: I cannot remember the whole dream all I can remember I was
sitting in the bath against a spider web, which I was totally unaware of
when I looked around I saw this huge web with ugly red and black spiders
hanging on it. One
of the spiders bit me.
dream_comments: I have never dreamt of spiders before, what does this mean?
COMMENTS: 700-003, 703-003
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Message: 700-002
Subject: Babies
dream_title: Babies
dream_date: beginning of october
dreamer_name: sam
dream_text: I dreamt my boss was angry with me because she was tired, she
had just had a baby girl. I was upset that she was angry because i didn't
tell her to have a baby.
COMMENTS: 705-001
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Message: 700-003 [700-001]
Subject: Re: Spiders
Hi Ingrid,
This is my interpretation of your dream. Sitting in the bathtub is
siginificant. It signifies your need to cleanse yourself of a situation.
The spider web could signify a web of deception. Several spiders could
mean several problems or annoyances that are going on with you right now.
Both the red and black on the spiders signifies fear and anger. I think the
dream is a warning that whatever is the problem is that is going on with you
if you don't fix the situation you'll end up getting bit, so to speak. I
would really look at what is going on right now. Is there a situation that
is annoying you or bothering you or a problem you happen to be caught up
in? I hope this helps.
Louella
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Message: 701-001
Subject: people
dream_title: people
dream_date: 26/11
dreamer_name: mystic
dream_text: sometimes i dream of in every house i have been in a pearson
comes walking into the room weird thing is i always wake up(properley) then
fall back to sleep and the dream continues until that pearson is leaning
over me and it is real like cause i can feel the presence of it all
dream_comments: what does this mean also before something happens like maybe
a death or happiness i get a interition that something is going to happen
sometimes however iam wrong
COMMENTS: 705-004
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Message: 702-001
Subject: Death
dream_title: Death
dream_date: septemeber 2003
dreamer_name: Maddison
dream_text: First Part- I am driving home from school on the highway,
suddenely traffic stops, and I learn that a bomb has gone off on the
opposite highway, people are telling me I have to leave my car and run
because the bomb is going to get us next, but I do not want to leave my car
and go with them.
Second Part- I am in bedroom sleeping at school, and my sister comes in,
wakes me up and asks me if she can stay with my because she is not going to
make it through the night. I do not ask why, I just go back to sleep and
let her stay with me.
Third Part- I am at school, I get a call from someone, I do not know who,
and they tell me to come home right away. When I get home I learn that my
mother has died, and that we must arrange for the funeral, they do not tell
me how and they also did not tell me when it happened because they did not
want me to be upset. We arrange everything, when i go to the funeral home,
everything is very familar, my mother is not the person in the casket, but I
do not know who it is. I leave and go home, my mom is home and she tells me
that everything is ok, she did not die. I wake up.
dream_comments: I am taking a dream symbolism class at Salve Regina, we have
to keep a dream journal, in this dream, I dreamt that I was writing in the
journal.
FOr this class, I have to present a dream and its meaning.
I was in Italy this summer, when I got back, my grandfather passed away,
about a month later I had to leave for school.
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Message: 703-001
Subject: Resisting Death
dream_title: Resisting Death
dream_date: November 25, 2003
dreamer_name: anonymous
dream_text: I am in a dark, greyish hole with webs. A skeleton representing
Death driving a cast iron carriage was also in the hole with me. He pointed
towards the carriage for me to get in. I said, "No, I am not going with
you." He then pointed to the four walls that were surrounding me, showing
me that there is no other way out. I felt trapped. The only way out was
getting into the carriage. I felt scared, yet I wasn't because I was
talking to death and telling it that I was not going. I looked up and saw
a small,little hole. Through the hole a small light shined through. As I
looked through the hole, I saw an Angel. The Angel reached through the hole
and pulled me through the hole. As I hugged the Angel, my arms would pass
through the Angel. To me it felt like air. Then I woke up.
COMMENTS: 703-002
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Message: 703-002 [703-001]
Subject: color your dream death
what if the black of your dream is an encroachment on your soul by spirits
traveling in the wrong direction like the tunnel walls of neardeath
experiencers and the white is your soul what if your spirit moves your soul
to the right of those souls whose spirits are moving them in the wrong
direction and what if you can see the influence of your spirit on your soul
by
observing that it has a left to right drift once i read that mohammed was
asked what a dream meant and he told the dreamer to follow it and find out?i
have not read all the so called apocryphal gospes but do you know of any
mention os dreams?
isn't it strange that jesus made no mention of dreams?
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Message: 703-003 [700-001]
Subject: Re: Spiders
wow this ingrid person is totally into the aura and chakra thing the meaning
of colors. and she's read her share of dream books too. i don't know i'd
say she did a pretty good job. but if u want my input here it goes: red and
black are usually associated with sex magic, red is color of prosperity in
orient, and black could symbolize death. i'd say that if u didn't see the
spider web as u were getting in it could mean that u don't always think be4
acting. and that the web represents the past. but ingrid is right the
bathroom means cleansing, the living room is the heart of the home, the
bedroom would signify rest. is there some financial oppurtunity u missed
out on in the past. and who do u feel is biting or stabbing u in the back
right now? the 8 legs of the spider could represent many factors at the
same time that could be bugging u rather than any one thing. or the dream
could mean that there's something in the past that holds u back now
something u didn't think was important till recently. have to go bye!
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Message: 704-001
Subject: The Lightning Man
dream_title: The Lightning Man
dream_date: 11/29/03
dreamer_name: Lightning Ball
dream_text: I got struck by lightning knocked my lights out for a long day.
At night I got up and opened my eyes and my eyes turned blue and i opened my
hands. " ball of Lightning" came out of my hands
dream_comments: Why Lightning came out of my hands Why?
COMMENTS: 705-002
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Message: 704-002
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Message: 705-001 [700-002]
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO THE CRYING BABY ISSUE!
sounds to me like she blames u for more than she should and that's not fair
to u. u are not responsible for her life or the choices in it. does this
woman remind u of the way your own mother treats u? u could feel devalued
or underappreciated or even held back and that this woman is treating u like
a child. get a job where u know your self worth and don't have to be treated
in such a disrespectful and ungrateful manner.
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Message: 705-002 [704-001]
Subject: Re: I KNOW WHAT THE LIGHTENING BALL IS!
do u know or care that u have very strong powerful psychic abilities and
your dream is telling u to stop ignoring them and have some faith in
yourself. the dream seems 2b saying that u needed a great declaration or
sign to tell u this. if it wasn't a brick hitting u over the head it's
getting struck by lightening to get your attention. did u ever hear of
energy balls or ectoplasm?? i was in a coven where the group broke up be4
she taught us how to do that. but u seriously need to stop denying your
abilities and realize that there's nothing wrong with being a witch. it
seems to me like your a hereditary one. and u don't even know it! it's a
shame u can be very good and very powerful. i don't think god cares if your
a witch just as long as your a good one.
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Message: 705-003
Subject: The Flying Lion
dream_title: The Flying Lion
dream_date: 11-29-2003
dreamer_name: anonymous
dream_text: I WAS IN A FIELD, LOOKING AT THE STARS THREW A TELESCOPE, AS I
WATCHED SATURN, SOMETHING GOT IN THE WAY OF MY VISION, I TOOK MY HEAD AWAY
FROM THE SCOPE, TO CLEAR MY EYES AND LOOKED AGAIN, THEN AS I WATCH SATURN
AGAIN, THE OBJECT THAT ENTERED MY VISION WAS A FLYING LION, IT HAD WINGS
LIKE AN EAGLE, I CALLED FOR MY BROTHER, HE THEN APPEARED OUT OF NO WAY, I
ASKED HIM TO LOOK AT THE FLYING LION, BUT IT WAS GONE BY THEN, ALL THE WHILE
THERE WAS MUSIC IN THE BACK GROUND, SMOOTH AND SOFT, GUITAR? WHAT DOES IT
MEAN.?
dream_comments: I HAVE DREAMS EVERY NIGHT,
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Message: 705-004 [701-001]
Subject: Re:IF THE DEAD SEEM REAL TO U THAT'S CUZ THEY ARE!
at least u can see them i can only feel them and sometimes hear. but even
then there has to b high levels of concentrated energy. anyway the dead r
trying to get your attention. they know u know about them and r therefore
drawn to u. but as with the living u wanna b careful as to who u hang out
with and who u help and y. they don't stop being human just cuz they passed
on. u were asking me y u get an intuitive feeling be4 something good or bad
happens that's normal. u have a very strong hold on the spirit world. most
people would freak out b overwhelmed or wrongly assume their losing their
mind. u just have more talents and abilities than most that's all nothing
wrong with that at all. but u do wanna b careful as to who u share that
information with i don't wanna see u get locked up in a mental institution
or anything like that.
but
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Message: 705-005
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Message: 706-001
Subject: My Wierd Ass Day
dream_title: My Wierd Ass Day
dream_date:
dreamer_name: Selene
dream_text: Ok so im in The supermarkent where my mom works (i spend a lot
of time there when im bored) and im looking for a muffin before i go to
school. just one individually rapped muffin. but no, there are only 6
packs and 12 packs so im walkina around the store muttering about my muffin
when all of a sudden my History teacher pops up out of nowhere and is like
"how can i help you?" i tell him im looking for a muffin and he says he
knows where i can find them. so he take s me down an isel and hes like here
you go. but again they are all 6 packs and 12 packs. "NO. i only want 1
muffin" "oh" he says and then rips open a 12pack of muffins and hands me
one of them "go on take it" he says "no i have to pay for it first" i say
but he keeps insisting that i dont need to pay for it that i should just
take it and leave. so i stat to leave feeling uneasy then realize i cant do
it and run back to the deli where i slap 12 cents in change on the counter
and say "im sorry i tried to steal the muffin here ill pay for it" then i
run away leaving the change and the muffin on the counter. my history
techer is in the back going"nooooo" so then i go to school and my class is
in the library working on the computers. the library is this room
surrounded by glass walls kida linke a fish tank. wel me and my friends are
talking and typing, my friend taps me on my shioulder and points across the
room i look over and Kevin Soebo Dressed as Hurcules is there waving at me
like a luvstruck girl. i turn away thinking hes and idiot. so im typing on
my computer and all of a sudden and instant message pops up. i cant read it
but i know its from him. again i ignore it. so then he gets up and cums
over to talkto me. by this time im fed up with him so i say i have to go to
my locker and get a book so i go out to my locker, its all darkand there is
one streetlight on. After i get my book i start to walk back but then i am
surrounded by a circle of black clad ninjas. oh crap i think. then i
procede to kick all of their butts. then i woke up
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Message: 707-001
Subject: murder
12/06/03 : A man (black) is taunting me (at this point I am black too) and
later, when he is walking down some cement stairs (vaguely similar to stairs
at my old middle school) I sneak out from behind the railing, and come up
behind him, and slice the back of his neck with a blade. This scene repeats
at least two more times, seen from different angles. Other then the sense
of confusion and dread I feel from killing him, I am rather judgemental as
to how it "looked" when I killed him. It looked good for the most part.
But it was amature looking. Not as "stylish" as I would have liked. The
way I
moved the blade across his neck was kind of shaky, and amature looking
(these were my primary concerns when reviewing the murder). A friend asks
me how did it feel, my first time killing a man. I said, ok (i meant, it
didnt feel good at all). He said, but wasnt it a rush, wasnt it thrilling
(something to that effect, i forgot the exact words). I recall thinking to
myself, no, it really wasnt. I didnt feel anything when I did it. Now I
was questioning why I ever did it at all. Now I was a fugitive of the law,
and the police were homing in on our position. This part is hard for me to
remember, but I run out of the building with my friends, and try to divert
the polices attention. > I am myself (white) and I am running through some
suburbs, into ppls houses, all the while i am running from a person (a
person from my past from school who picked on me a lot). He is very much
the same person he was in the past. He knows I committed the murder but I
think he commited the murder (this part is hard to recall, but it was very
uncomfortable). > I am driving my car and a good friend of mine is sitting
in the passenger seat next to me. I tell him we can move to Hawaii, and
they won't find us there for a long time at least. We can get jobs there
and live peacefully. But we have to get out of here or I'm going to jail
for "life without parole". Then I ask him, how long do you think we really
have before we're caught? He says, three days max.
I consider using my debit card somewhere and getting out of there fast
before they realize I was there. Then I can use cash at the airport and
make up a name for myself, so they won't know I am on the flight. This is
about the time I wake up. When I awaken, I am in disbelief of reality. I
think to myself, this can't be real. I really did kill someone, and there
is nothing I can do about it now. It takes a few minutes before I realize
that it was only a dream, and thats the most relieved I've felt in a very,
very long time.
comment: even hours later i felt a little like it really happened at some
moments, and had to snap myself back into reality. for those of you who are
planning on interpreting my dream, i can tell you i cant think of anything i
heavily regret doing or feel guilty about lately that would offset this
dream, though there were past demons that made an appearnce (bully from
school) which would imply something. there could be some fear of commitment
here, because i've made some bad mistakes in the past, i.e. joining the
military and hating every minute of it. same with school. didnt like it
either. but this didnt feel like one of 'those' dreams either, since i
frequently have those dreams. so i'm not sure what to make of it. - A
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Message: 708-001
Subject: Re: HUGGED BY AN ANGEL RESPONSE TO RESISTING DEATH!
at first u resisted death but when u accepted that death is apart of life
and that u have nothing to lose cuz u still maintain your sense of self u
were then rewarded by a hug from an angel cuz u finally learned your lesson.
there is no life without death. death is a part of life and u can always
come back if u want but i believe some souls r forced to come back here
whether they like it or not cuz there was something they needed to learn or
experience and it wasn't right for them to try to avoid it.
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Message: 708-002
Subject: Re: NOTHING WEIRD ABOUT A CRUSH RESPONSE 2WEIRD ASS DAY
well u either have a crush on a girl or some girl has a crush on u (or it
could be a guy with very strong female traits that remind u of someone) but
the character of hercules would suggest that this secret admirer of yours is
strong and persistant. the fact that this person is the store where your
mom works would suggest to me that u know this person and got to know them
in a comfortable environment such as school or work. at 1st u wanted to
confront this person and tell them u were not interested but instead u
thought u were sparing the persons feelings by avoiding them all together.
which is y u left the muffin (sexual term referring to womans private area)
and the change on the counter. u wanted to give this person your own 2
cents on the matter but thought better of it. u do however feel
tremendously guilty for avoiding this person and not wanting to talk to them
about this. all u have to say is: i like u and i think your a good person
and i'm sorry i don't swing that way if and when i do you'll be the 1st
person i contact. till then can we just please b friends!? your history
teacher showed up cuz apparently u had a similar problem in the past from
someone else who may have been the opposite gender than the person who's
after u now. your history teacher represents the past and he's screaming
no, no, noooo! cuz he doesn't want to see u continually running away from
the same kind of situation over and over and over it's just easier to deal
with the person and give that person some closure. u were beating up the
ninja's later cuz u were working out your frustrations regarding this
situation. your mad at this person for having more feelings for u than they
should or mad at yourself for having more feelings for them than u think u
should. and u feel like u can take on more than what u would otherwise
could handle cuz your that angry and frustrated. u do however seem like u
wanted to give this person a shot and see how it goes but r very much afraid
of the results.
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Message: 708-003
Subject: Re: MY INTERPRETATION OF CAR BOMB & GRANDPA'S FUNERAL
did all of these dreams take place be4 your grandfather died? cuz if so
then all of them tie in together. in the 1st part your being warned about
some impending danger but your not afraid cuz u know somehow u will be ok.
in the 2nd part your sister is feeling unnerved by something but u don't
know what that is. what if she has intuitive feelings about impending doom
and death in the family too??? either way she seems to know somethings
wrong and seeks comfort from u. in the 3rd part of the dream u say that u r
being told your mother is dead and yet when u see the casket she is not in
it she's alive. if your grandfather is your mother's dad that would mean to
me that when he passed away a part of her died as well. people very often
grieve for the dead as if they themselves had died. they must've been very
close. but it seems like your surrounded by well meaning people who take
care of things quickly even if they r a bit misinformed sometimes. and
maybe u weren't afraid of dieing when told about the car bomb cuz u were
kind of curious to see 4 yourself what the other side is like in person.
but let's not go there. u have very strong talents and abilities for a
reason and even though u feel a bit overwhelmed sometimes u probably
wouldn't have these gifts if u weren't strong enough to handle them.
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Message: 708-004
Subject: Re: COULD BE ANIMAL TOTEM SPIRIT OR ABOUT ASTROLOGY
your dream could be telling u to get some medicine cards and get into the
animal totem spirit thing. but i think it's mainly about astrology i don't
know if u believe in it or ever had your chart done. as for your brother
the dream implies he doesn't see the same things as u or doesn't believe in
the same things which is ok. he's a separate entity and shouldn't have to
believe in the same things. i very often have more in common with my friends
than i do my immediate family. did u see the nostradamus movie very good.
he had his chart done and he was exactly the person the stars made him out
to b psychically inclined with powerful visions. u can pick it up free at a
library. if it's not lumped in with everything else it could be in
documentary or biography section. this movie was not like a boring PBS
documentary movie it was a real movie and a good one at that. as for the
music they say that the universe and the heavens create music all the time
that the world runs on it. anyone who writes songs or music is tapping into
that creative force and that's y music affects our emotions, thoughts and
dreams. and that's y we can sometimes get more energy from listening to
music than we can from eating.
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Message: 708-005
Subject: Re: THE MORE LUCID THE DREAM THE BETTER!
i've had numerous and strange dealings with the spirit world but not as
strong and powerful as your dealings with them. the most i can say is trust
your intuition and let your conscience be your guide. whatever works for u
to protect yourself keep at it. if u want more guidance than get some books
on astral projection so u can guide the experience rather than letting
things happen. u can also get a book on creative visualization and do the
grounding mediation there's a book called: "creative visualization" by
shakti guwain. these books r in the occult, new age, sometimes even
self-help section. other than that get sage or sweet grass or do some sort
of cleansing ritual. mohammed was into lucid dreaming and there r some
people who can seed their dreams and choose to dream about whatever they
want and there's books on that to. so u can follow your dream and learn to
follow it or guide it. as for jesus didn't he have visions? i don't know
maybe some of them were waking dreams.
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Message: 708-006
Subject: Black Hair
dream_title: Black Hair
dream_date: 12/7/03
dreamer_name: anonymous
dream_text: I saw a black bird fly right pass me and I see black hair when I
scoop the popcorn. (I work in a theater)
dream_comments: none
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Message: 709-001
Subject: Flying
dream_title: Flying
dream_date: 2/3 days a week
dreamer_name: noname
dream_text: Every time i remember my dream it starts at night when the
witches come out and they pratice their seyonces. When something bad happens
to a friend in any of my dreams, the seyonces become soft almost wispering
and in my dream it dosn't matter where i am i just run around in circles
until my body is lifted off the gound and then i can fly around town until
bad turns into good.
dream_comments: Every time I fly in my dreams i can control it extemely
well, such as taking off and landing. When I do fly I don't need anything to
supposrt myself and the wind feels so realistic
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Message: 709-002
Subject: Wedding
dream_title: WEDDING
dream_date: 12-7-03
dreamer_name: anonymous
dream_text: I DREAMED THAT I HAD MARRIED MY EX BUT THAT I WAS STILL MARRIED
WITH MY PRESENT HUSBAND.
dream_comments:
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Message: 710-001
Subject: tidal wave
dream_title: tidal wave
dream_date: November 2004
dreamer_name: Kerriemc
dream_text: Its full colour and very busy very exhausting. I am in a coastal
area. I can see the ocean. There are people all around me. My daughter is
with me. I feel my inner voice tell me that there is imminent danger and
that I need to save myself and my daughter. I hear people shouting 'tidal
wave is coming. People begin to panic. I see the wave it is almost upon us
and there is nothing I can do. I feel great fear and a survival within, the
need to save my daughter. I hold my daughter tight. The wave hits we are
swept up I breath for my daughter giving her air as she needs it. We are
surrounded by water and strive to find the top of the water.There are bodies
all around us. The water subsides and the town is filled with mud and I am
walking on the ground and feel bodies in the soil beneath my feet. I can't
see my daughter. I find a table and a little girl and tell the girl to get
onto the table as there is another wave coming. the wave hits followed by
another one. I survive the water subsides and the town is destroyed. There
are other survivors I am very sad and very very afraid.
dream_comments: I feel dread and a great deal of fear throughout this dream.
I feel lonliness. This is a recurring dream in subject matter only. The
scheme of the dream changes each time.
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Message: 710-002
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO THE WEDDING DREAM!
did u feel like u made a mistake marrying your husband instead of your x.
or do u like them both and want the best of both worlds in your life? or do
u feel like u shouldn't have gotten involved with either. what do they mean
and represent to u?
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Message: 710-003
Subject: Waiting for you
dream_title: WAITING FOR YOU
dream_date:
dreamer_name: FOR MY HUSBAND
dream_text: MY HUSBAND HAD A DREAM THAT HE WAS HAVING LUNCH IN A DINNER WITH
HIS AUNT,HIS COUSIN,UNCLE,AND AUNT (WHO HAVE ALL PASTED ON) WALK INTO THE
DINNER. HE LOOKS AT ALL OF THEM AND SAID TO THEM WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE YOU
GUYS ARE DEAD?!ONE OF THEM SAID TO HIM WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU.
dream_comments: WHAT COULD THIS MEAN?
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Message: 710-004
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO FLYING DREAM
i don't know what books u been reading but not all witches hold seances at
nite can be anytime of the day. i have dreams where i'm levitating and i
can control that 2 it's fun i always get mad when i wake up and can't
reproduce the same kind of energy. it's takes so little. i think the
witches r murmuring cuz no one likes to say bad things out loud might scare
people. what do u mean bad turns into good how does your flying cause that
to happen u didn't say. they say that flying dreams is really astral
travel. so i don't know where u go or what u do but i'm glad your intent on
turning bad into good. i read in a dream book that levitating dreams means
that i'm stressed and that i just wish to get away from things. sometimes i
don't know i'm stressed till after i have one of those dreams but haven't
had one in a long time now. did u get my response to your other dreams the
funeral and muffin shop. they seem to have been mailed back 2 me without a
response couldn't figure out y. though the 1st time i responded to someone
same thing happened but apparently he did get my response.
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Message: 710-005
Subject: Re: response to black hair
well what kind of black bird was it a crow? they say crows signify death.
or lead the souls where they need to go. there's a native american tribe
called "crow nation". where were u when the black bird flew past u? if
someone left behind black hair when u were scooping up the popcorn someone
from the spirit world could b trying to get your attention. ask your spirit
guide to send u a dream!
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Message: 711-001
Subject: desert
i'm in a desert with some people. we come to a wall and at the top is a
place no one can make it. so we climb up and everyone falls but me. i'm
nearing the top, and have to move to the right to make it up. before i make
it i see someone below me, he is way high up, and he jumps off the wall and
lands in the sand below. the sand is so deep and flowing it doesnt hurt him
at all. i make it up and the sand is warm to the touch and feels good to
lie in. i look beyond and there is a a hill of sand. at the top there is a
sort of fence and it is guarded heavily by these arabs. one of them points
a gun at me and i make hand gestures suggesting i will not try to apporach
any higher. the only way is down so i jump back down. i land in water, and
everything is now blue. i fear to let my breath out so they dont see the
bubbles on the surface and shoot me. so i cant breathe at all and force
myself awake.
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Message: 711-002
Subject: Re: I HAVE AN ANSWER (WAITING FOR YOU)!!!!
your husband could be sick and doesn't know it. the dream could be a
warning he seriously needs to see a dr. as soon as possible. or if this is
not the case but should be looked in to. the dream could be telling him he
doesn't pay enough attention to his own family dead or not and they just
want to be acknowledged. no reason to ignore the dead. there just gonna
keep at it till they get your attention. is he in danger from some
acquaintance or is there physical dangers on the job chemicals, no safety
button on a machine, faulty equipment? could be a warning about almost
anything. tell your husband to pray to these spirits and ask them to send
more info in his dreams. the majority of dreams i have are filled with
people i don't know and never met trying to tell me something. they say
that when u dream u leave your body and very often go back and forth between
the world of spirits and this one. set up an ancestor altar in your home.
pictures, candles, incense, family memorobilia, etc. jewelry that belonged
to his aunt. is there a family medical history he is not aware of??? could
be neurological too. parkinsons or such??!
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