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Volume #11 Issue #4

April 2004

ISSN# 1089 4284

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C O N T E N T S

++ Editor's Notes

++ News: Global Dreaming News Returns

++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
Ben Kidd’s Transformational Dreaming
Lucy Gillis

++ Article: Gestalt Dialogue with the Inner Critic
and the Inner Child
Linda Lane Magallón

++ Column: The View from the Bridge
Spain 1103
Jean Campbell

++ Column: The Waves:
Galactic Waves: Dreaming with the Trees
Galactic Moon. White Spectral Wizard Yea
Nick Cumbo



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++ DREAM SECTION: Dreams from February and March, 2004
Host: Elizabeth Westlake

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Editor's Notes

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Welcome to the April 2004 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to dreams
and dreamwork online.

If you are new to dreams and dreamwork, please join us on
dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the resources &
groups you need. To join send an e to
dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com


Here are some of the articles and columns featured this month:

“In a way I feel that the nightmares gave me the beautiful gift of lucid
dreaming. That without the adversity they provided, I would not have reached
for such a powerful technique as lucid dreaming.” -- Ben Kidd --
Lucy Gillis shares travels around the dream world to find the most talented
and experimental lucid dreamers. In an excerpt from the her Lucid Dream
Exchange, Ben Kidd show how he used lucidity to change the horror of his
nightmares to something more productive. Be sure to read this excerpt from
the Lucid Dream Exchange.

"Everything in the dream is a part of you," states the very popular Gestalt
theory of dreamwork. Linda Lane Magallón, author of _Mutual Dreaming_,
explores how this technique rolls out on the dream carpet of everyday
dreaming. Be sure to read “Gestalt Dialogue with the Inner Critic and the
Inner Child.”

Spain 1103. What can we do as dreamers? Jean Campbell brings you up to date
on the dream activism group, the World Dreams Peace Bridge and how we can
use dreams to bridge the gap between many different groups and cultures and
reach out to those in pain.

Nick Cumbo newsletter and column reports on the dream explorations of the
Sea Life community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims to
bring together a circle of dreamers from around the globe, collaborating in
dreaming adventures, and ‘dreaming with and for the earth itself.’ This
month you can learn about the ‘Dreaming with the Trees’ Project. Learn also
how to use your dreams and mutual dreams to improve the world.


The Global Dreaming News comes from Peggy Coats at Dreamtree.com and will
update you on current dream events. If you have news for our Global Dreaming
News, send that to Peggy Coats at:
info@...

Darth Vader, lost in the forest, voices in the night, are you going mad? No,
its just the Electric Dreams Dreams Section!
Our Dream Section is edited each month by Elizabeth Westlake.
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For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to stop by one
of the many resources:
http://www.dreamtree.com
http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library
Electric Dreams in PDF: (thanks to Nick Cumbo)
http://www.dreamofpeace.net/community/electricdreams/

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Tooting my own horn: Thanks to the ASD Board of Directors for the
presentation of the Certificate of Appreciation I received last week. I was
very moved and felt all warm and fuzzy.
http://www.dreamgate.com/2004_ASD_appreciation.htm

See you all in May,

-Richard Wilkerson

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G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S

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If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats,
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This Month's Features:

NEWS
- PSI Angels Await You
- Introductory Dream Retreat with Jeremy Taylor
- ASD Regional in Pittsburgh, PA
- Drop-in Dream Group, Berkeley, CA
- More Lucid Dreaming Group

RESEARCH & REQUESTS
- Creative Lucid Dreamers Wanted
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WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES
- Magikimages

DREAM CALENDAR FOR APRIL 2004


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N E W S

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>>> Psi Angels Await You
Psi Angels are now featured on ASD's Online Auction and are standing by to
help you. This exciting program was developed by Harry Bosma. To receive
the benefits offered by the Psi Angels, go to the ASD Online Auction at
www.asdreams.org/auction/ You'll be enriched. The Psi Angels await you.

>>> Introductory Dreamwork Retreat with Jeremy Taylor
April 30-May 2, 2004
Work with world-renowned dreamworker/author in peaceful surroundings of
Sunrise Ranch. Includes support sessions for nurturing body and soul; yoga,
astrology, tarot and aura photography. Intermediate weekend Sept.
17-19,2004; attend one or both. Cost: $125 (prior to 2/29) + accommodations
Sunrise Ranch, Loveland, Colorado. Contact: Billie Ortiz 303-929-6122
wakeuptoyourdreams@...

>>> ASD Regional in Pittsburgh coming up in November 2004
"Dreams, Art and Healing" will be the theme of a weekend regional to be held
in Pittsburgh, PA from Nov. 19-21, 2004. The Society for Contemporary Craft
there is planning an exhibit of dream based art to run from September
through January, and the ASD regional will be held at the gallery. Plans are
underway for performing arts, studio classes and a film screening, as well
as workshops on dreams and grief and on using dream imagery in healing
visualizations for cancer patients. Pittsburgh is in western Pennsylvania,
2-3 hours from Cleveland; 3 hours from Columbus; 3-4 hours from Buffalo; 5
hours from Washington D.C., Cincinnati and Philadelphia; and 6-7 hours from
NYC. For more information, e-mail cpearson@....

>>>Drop-In Dream Group, Berkeley, CA

DREAMS: WHAT ARE THEY GOOD FOR?

ANSWER: Getting clear on love, family, relationships, career, spiritual path
and anything you wish to work on. Solving problems in your sleep. Answering
the questions you haven't yet asked. AND ESPECIALLY: You can stop nightmares
and recurring dreams typically in 1 - 3 sessions.
THE CLASS: Find out for yourself: How to look at your own dreams, hear what
they have to say & feel your way through to the meaning or a resolution. We
work with partners in structured exercises sharing our dreams. Some people
will get to work with their dream in front of the group.

COST: $10/class

ME: David Jenkins. I’m a Ph.D. with a dream practice. In my unhumble
opinion, your dreams are more exciting & more original than most of the
films from Hollywood.
WHERE: Class meets in downtown Berkeley. Near BART at 2199 Bancroft Way at
the corner of Fulton Street. (Upstairs in Aperio: “fun, eclectic, and
affordable gifts for all occasions”)

WHEN: Saturday Mornings. 10am – noon.

REGISTER: email davidj@... or call 510 644 2369

WEB: http://www.practicaldreamwork.com

THE POINT? The goal is for you to get the idea of how to work & play with
your own dreams.

CAN'T REMEMBER YOUR DREAMS? Keep a notebook by the side of your bed. Before
you get up in the morning (before you get out of bed even), write down
whatever is in your head. Whatever it is: "Coffee", "Late", "Feed the cat",
"Call mother" etc. Whatever it is, write it down.

>>>> Third More Lucid Dreams group Starts April 10
The third More Lucid Dreams (MLD)group starts Saturday, April 10, and will
run for five weeks. A modest fee of $25 is charged. Free seats are available
for students, residents of low income countries, divorced mothers on low
income, and everyone else who feels eligible. For more information and
endorsements, please visit: http://alquinte.com/en/


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>>> Creative Lucid Dreamers Needed
To all lucid dreaming writers and artists -- I am a PhD researcher with the
University of Leeds, England, investigating the link between lucid dreaming
and the creative imagination. I am looking for lucid dreamers who have
produced some form of creative work to a professional standard, e.g. a
published novel or short story, or an exhibition of paintings or sculptures.
If you fit into this category and would be willing to help me with my
research, please email me on PhDcasestudies@... and I will send you
a research questionnaire. I’ll be asking you for your opinion on the
possibilities of lucid dreaming as a creative tool, its effectiveness in
dissolving blocks, and its value as a source of inspiration in the creative
arts. Thank you very much for your help. Clare Johnson



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>>> Magikimages – Dream Paintings by Helene Bied
http://magikimage.lenagraph.com
Helene is a French artist living in Santa Cruz, California. Her artwork is
a lot about dreams and about the unconscious dressed in colors and emotions
painted in all kind of shapes talking back to her.



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Apr 3-4, San Jose, CA
Tarot for Dreamers, with Robert Moss. For more information and registration:
Contact Suzette, suzette@...; tel 408-476-7893

Apr 10, Online
The third More Lucid Dreams (MLD)group will run for five weeks. A modest fee
of $25 is charged.. For more information please visit:
http://alquinte.com/en/

Apr 17-18, Wakefield, RI
Dreaming to Heal your Life, weekend workshop with Robert Moss. Information:
All That Matters (401) 782-2126, www.allthatmatters.com


Apr 30-May 2, Loveland, CO
Introductory Dreamwork Retreat with Jeremy Taylor
Includes support sessions for nurturing body and soul; yoga, astrology,
tarot and aura photography. Sunrise Ranch, Loveland, Colorado. Contact:
Billie Ortiz 303-929-6122 wakeuptoyourdreams@...



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An Excerpt From The Lucid Dream Exchange

By Lucy Gillis

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“In a way I feel that the nightmares gave me the beautiful gift of lucid
dreaming. That without the adversity they provided, I would not have reached
for such a powerful technique as lucid dreaming.” Ben Kidd


Ben Kidd has experienced nightmares from time to time throughout his life.
Remarkably, he taught himself to realize when he was dreaming - and to use
his lucidity to change his nightmares - at a very early age. He shares his
inspirational story in the current issue of LDE (Number 30).


NIGHTMARES AND LUCID DREAMS
(c) 2004 Ben Kidd
Sydney, Australia.

I have had many nightmares that I have overcome by lucid dreaming. In fact,
my lucid dreaming started that way. My lucid dreaming was initiated by a
recurring nightmare that I had between the ages of about 3 and 4. From
there, many of my lucid dreams were invoked during a nightmare, and were the
avenue to end them. This occurred into my twenties, and can still occur
today (my thirties), although the nightmares are much weaker than they once
were.

FIRST RECURRING NIGHTMARE

1975 (three years old): The Dungeon (all occurrences pre reaching lucidity,
about 8 times in total):

I am out the back of my house, playing. I accidentally drop my red woollen
gloves on to the paving bricks near a storm water drain. I try to pick them
up, but when I try to, I accidentally push them partially into the drain. So
I get on my knees to get closer. Again I knock them further into the drain.
I lie on my chest, and reach down to grab them. I knock them into the drain,
and I fall in after them.

I find myself in a dungeon-like place. There are two rooms joined by an
escalator. On the escalator are my family, and my extended family. The upper
room is dimly lit. About thirty pairs of forearms reach out of the floor.
The beings they belong to are imprisoned in the ground. They reach out to
try to grab my legs, and pull me into the ground. This scares me greatly, so
I go down the escalator to the lower room. I enter the lower room, which is
pitch dark. I can't see my own hand in front of my face. The darkness
excites my fear until I am petrified. Once I cannot handle it any more, I
get back to the top room. I go back and forth between the rooms each time I
can't stand the current room.

I wake up terrified.

MY FIRST LUCID DREAM

1976 (four years old): The Dungeon and the Banished Witch:

The recurring nightmare starts and continues as it always has. This time
however, it changes. I am determined to end the nightmare. When I am in the
upstairs room, after going up and down a few times, I decide to end it. This
is where I become lucid.

I realise that I am dreaming, and so I call forth the witch that has
imprisoned me. She appears instantly. She is wearing a long black robe, had
a pointy black hat, is floating on a broom, and even has a large wart on her
nose.

I tell her that she has no right to imprison me here, and directly order her
to set me free. Instantly she disappears, and I appear in my back yard, with
my red gloves at my feet. I pick them up, and the dream ends. I never had
that dream ever again.

I wake up feeling empowered, that I have control over my destiny.

MY SECOND RECURRING NIGHTMARE

1976 (four years old): The Dungeon Behind the Cupboard (had twice or three
times)

I am walking to school in my dream. It is dusk, which seems strange.

There is a small building at my school which doesn't exist in real life.
It's about the size of a toll booth. I go into the room, and find a
cupboard. The cupboard is against the back wall of the room, which backs
onto the playground (i.e., there is open space behind the wardrobe's wall).

The wardrobe slides across, to reveal a hole in the wall that leads to a
dark warehouse. I am drawn into the warehouse. I am scared in the warehouse,
as it is dark, large, and I cant find my way out.

I wake up feeling scared.

MY SECOND LUCID DREAM

1976 (4 years old): The Dungeon Behind the Cupboard is Vanquished.

I am dreaming. I decide that I will not let this recent nightmare get on top
of me like my first one did.

So I purposefully walk to school. When I get there the small building is
there as expected. I go inside to find the cupboard. I walk straight up to
the cupboard and push it across. I find the hole in the wall, and the large
space behind it. I make my intentions to rid my dream of this nightmare
strong in my mind, and walk into the dark area behind the cupboard. I find
it lighter than last time. I have a look around, finding old school desks,
dusty chairs, clocks and the like. I find that it is not scary at all,
rather an old dusty place. I overcome my fear of the place, and leave it.
Once I have left, I look behind the cupboard, and can no longer see the hole
that leads to the large dark place.

I wake up feeling empowered.

VIOLENT NIGHTMARE ENDED BY LUCID DREAMING

1990 (18 years old): The Giant Axeman

I am in the country. It is dry, with low brown grass, open fields, and wire
fencing. There is a dirt road. I am in a house with a friend. There is a
rowing boat (an eight) outside on trestles (to hold it up off the ground). A
car pulls up out the front. Four men get out of the car. The have axes. One
of them walks up to the boat and rocks it until it falls to the ground
causing much damage. They leave, for now.

I am feeling distressed by this. I am wondering how I can defend myself, and
notice two axes in the house. My friend and I grab the axes to defend
ourselves.

The car pulls up again. Again, it has the same four men in it, but there is
also a giant man, about 8 feet tall. He too has an axe. They start walking
towards the house. I am getting terrified by now, and so I am wondering what
have I done to deserve this?

The men approach and enter the house. I am still thinking, why do I deserve
this? What have I done? The giant slowly walks towards me with his axe. I
realise I must defeat him, or I will die.
I suddenly realise that I don't deserve this. That I haven't done anything
wrong. I then realise that I am dreaming. A triumphant feeling follows,
where I realise I can make the walls fall outwards allowing my escape.
However, I am still too close to this giant, and worried, so I take my axe
and hit him again and again with it in the chest trying to stop him. The
huge emotion associated with this stops my dream.

I feel relieved to have gotten out of the nightmare, and empowered that I
have had a lucid dream, but disappointed that I ended it in a violent way
rather than a supernatural way.

NIGHTMARE NEARLY ENDED BY LUCID DREAM

1992 (20 years old) Rolling the Paddle Steamer onto the Beach

In the dream I am on the deck of a paddle steamer. The paddle steamer
happens to be steaming along a footpath that runs along a long beach. The
paddle steamer approaches a left hand turn, about 45 degrees. As it turns
the corner it rolls over onto it's side. It is now lying on the beach.

I realise that I am in trouble. There is a lot of financial damage to the
vessel, and they are holding me accountable. However I realise that I wasn't
driving the boat, so I realise that it's not my fault. I then realise that I
am dreaming! Such relief! It's not my fault.

Then, amusingly, I manage to convince myself that it's not a dream after
all, and the nightmare continues until I awake.

I wake up feeling a mix of frustration, and happiness with realising it was
a dream.

FALLING DREAMS TURNING INTO LUCID FALLING DREAMS TURNING INTO LUCID FLYING
DREAMS

During my childhood I've had many falling dreams. When I was 16 I fell off
an 8 metre high cliff, where I found out that falling in a dream feels just
like falling in real life, very scary. I'll move onto when things started to
change.

1988 (16 years old) Feather Falling

I am in a dream, on the beach. Out to sea is a large green skyscraper. I go
out to the skyscraper, and climb to the top. Instead of having normal fire
stairs, there is a large central stair well, with stairs running on all four
sides. The stairwell has a central open area about 15 metres by 15 metres
(45 feet by 45 feet).

I start to walk down the stairs, and slip. I find myself falling through the
air, and feel that classic falling feeling deep in my stomach. However,
instead of plummeting to the ground, I am falling more like a feather,
slowly, drifting. I land on a stairway clear across the gap at the centre of
the stairs. I realise that this isn't normal, so I must be dreaming.

I then practice this feather falling again and again, in the hope that I
will remember this skill for future falling dreams.

1989 (17 years old) Lucid Falling

I am on the top of an 8-storey building. I am not lucid. In the dream I
approach the edge of the building. It is scarily tall. I fall off the edge.
I land on the ground, but find I am not hurt in any way. I realise I am
dreaming.

I go to the top of another building, this time 10 storeys tall. I realise
that I want to practice falling so that I can overcome my fear. I jump off
the edge, and free fall to the ground. I land on my feet, but as I am
falling so fast I end up very quickly in the squat position. The
deceleration is so fast it scares me.

I go to the top of another building. This time more like 20 storeys tall.
The landing area is so small, I find it hard to see it. I jump off the
building, and free fall. Again the landing is so fast that it's a bit of a
shock, and wakes me up this time.

I feel happy that I have started to overcome my fear of falling.

FLYING OUT OF A NIGHTMARE

1994 (22 years old) Flying out of Adversity

I am having a nightmare. I am being chased by an infinite number of
criminals. They are trying to kill me. I have a gun though, which I am using
to defend myself. The gun takes 6 very fat bullets. They are about as fat as
a thick sausage.

I am running. As I am running I am trying to load my gun. Once I get the
sixth bullet in the gun, I close it up, and turn and fire. By this time
there is one enemy at most 2 metres from me. I kill him, and five others
that are very close. Then the running starts again.

More running, more shooting, more running, more shooting. The whole time the
same old thoughts come up. "What have I done to deserve this? What karma do
I have that I deserve to be killed like this?" And so on.

Eventually I have the realisation that I don't deserve that. I am not a
murderer or criminal, and thus realise that I am dreaming!

With this realisation I realise I have supernatural powers. I instantly fly
upwards very fast. I reach orbit in a matter of seconds. The experience is
so strong that I wake up.

I feel incredibly energised by the dream. Not only because I became lucid,
but because I have continued to get out of nightmares using lucid dreaming.

FLYING MYSELF AND OTHERS OUT OF A LOW LEVEL NIGHTMARE

2003 (31 years old) Group Flight

I am having a low-level nightmare (my nightmares are now generally like
this, if they occur at all). I am in an outdoor setting. There is an island
surrounded by a moat. There are a few bridges leading from the island in the
middle to the land (bank) surrounding the moat. Each of the bridges had a
landing in the middle on it's own smaller island that is located in the
moat, not touching either the bank or the main island. There is a large
crowd in a grandstand to one side.

There is some sort of sport going on. However the sport is like chasey, and
I am being chased. I am finding this situation uncomfortable, as I don't
want to be chased. There is a group of three other people with me.

I realise that I am dreaming. I am not sure what triggers that, but I expect
it is the usual understanding that I don't deserve to be chased like this,
as has happened many times before.

I decide that I want to get off the main island to the bank on the other
side. I want to take my three friends with me, as I am protecting them. So I
decide to fly myself and them off the island. I will myself and them into
the air. There is no physical contact between the three of us. As I fly over
the bridge, I notice that it rises up and down as it heads across the moat.
I find that as I reach a high point, and start to fly over the low point,
that I and the three other people start to fall towards the bridge. I
remember that the fear itself will cause this to happen, so I strengthen my
resolve, and continue to fly to the other side. We land safely, and the
dream ends.

I awake greatly charged and excited. It's the first time I have made others
fly with me just using my will.

COMMON THEME

I find that the common thing that initiates a lucid dream in a nightmare is
my intrinsic understanding that I don't deserve the bad events that are
occurring to me; that I haven't done something horrible that has brought it
upon myself. This seems to bring up "justified anger" towards the situation.
This results in a very strong resolve to end the situation, crossed with the
innate knowledge that I can end the situation by my will alone. I end up
like a bulletproof superhero.

I feel that this result is partly created through my waking life, where I
feel unsatisfied with being stuck at night in nightmares (first learnt from
the recurring nightmares of my early years). I find that if I convert the
dissatisfaction into a challenge to reject the nightmare, and carry that
resolve with me to strengthen it, that the chances of me overcoming a
nightmare by lucid means are greatly increased.

This effect snowballs. After I first beat the nightmare when I was four
years old, it made it easier to repeat that when I was five, and so on. Now
I find that the power of my nightmares are greatly diminished, as I know
that I can beat them with will alone.

In a way I feel that the nightmares gave me the beautiful gift of lucid
dreaming. That without the adversity they provided, I would not have reached
for such a powerful technique as lucid dreaming.

As the Buddhist saying goes (approximately), rubbing a block of rough wood
with silk will not smooth it, rubbing it with sandpaper will.

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Gestalt Dialogue with the Inner Critic and the Inner Child

© 2004 Linda Lane Magallón

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"Everything in the dream is a part of you," states the very popular Gestalt
theory of dreamwork. You are encouraged to seat yourself down on a pillow
and begin to act out or speak the part of every element in the dream.
Imaginatively, you "become" the self in the dream. You look out at the world
through her eyes; see from her perspective. You feel as she feels. You judge
dream events from her point of view. You express her opinions, not yours.
You take an empathetic trip to another side of self; the self who lives in
the dream.

You also "become" the background scenery, the props, the characters in the
dream play. You are the horse and the soldier and even the color of the
sunrise. All these pieces are supposed to form the "whole" of the dream.
That's the theory. But if I speak as the mountain range or the morning dew,
I speak a monologue. And the fact of the matter is that some of my grumpier
dream elements don't much like to talk! On the other hand, a self-absorbed
tulip may talk forever, never once referring to other elements in the dream.
So I end the session feeling fragmented. There's no ready glue to paste the
pieces back together.

That's why I like Gestalt dialogue. The glue is communication between
characters. I find it especially useful to "become" the self in the dream
and dialogue with others from that point of view. In this case, the stars of
the show were dream characters rather than background or props. I considered
who would be most verbal, put pen to paper and let them speak. Then, as my
dreaming self, I responded. After the first group talked themselves into a
mumble, I initiated a dialogue with some of the less loquacious characters.
Afterwards, I re-read the dialogue and made some notes to myself. My dream
concern was: who or what is fatiguing me, being a heavy burden, holding me
down?
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DREAM
I am pursued by reporters who want to interview me because I can fly. I fly
around the hills surrounding my home, a single house in a large field, but
feel heavy due to the pull of the reporters' expectations. (They keep
following me, at least with their eyes). Coming back, I pick up my younger
brother by the hand. For a while he flies Superman style like I do, but when
he tires, I must carry him seated in my arms. This position weighs me down
so I must land in back of the house. Once inside, the house opens into a
school room. Third hand, I see myself go sit on a chair to be at the same
level as the children who crowd around me. I smile, hold out my arms and
talk with them.
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DIALOGUE
Reporters: How do you fly? Can't you give us hints?
Linda: I don't know-I just *do* it.
R: What does it feel like?
L: Great. Freeing. Happy. Ecstasy.
R: Will you give us a ride?
L: You would weigh me down-it's very tiring. Your demands pull me down.
R: But it's our jobs to get the facts! We must get the information out to
the people-it's their right to know.
L: I want to help you-believe me I do-so you'll go away happy and leave me
alone. I'd like to tell you, but I don't know how!
R: Can we have your autograph?
L: Uggh! Pester parasites. Can you tell me how I do it?
R: We don't know-we just report the facts you give us. Give us the facts!
L: I don't have them.
R: But you can fly-we see you.
L: If I can-so can you.
R: Okay, how?
L: I just will myself up into the air. I just choose to go. I project my
thoughts in that direction.
R: But we try and we can't! Tell us how! Let us come with you.
L: No, no, you'll drag me down.
R: It's no fair.
L: You've got to find your own strength.
R: If we can't do it, we'll be jealous, we'll drag you down, we'll criticize
you.
L: That's what I'm afraid of. Why is criticism and others' expectations able
to drag me down?
R: We pull you down to our level. If we can't, then neither will you.
L: What would satisfy you?
R: To get the information we came for.
L: And if I don't have it?
R: We'll stay until you do or we'll go away and call you a fake to the
world.
L: But I can fly!
R: You fail to explain yourself.
L: Must I?
R: Yes.
L: Why?
R: We must have that information-it's our job.
L: Don't you have other stories?
R: If you don't tell us-you might tell others.
L: But I don't know!
R: OK. Write it down: "Linda doesn't know. She is a dummy. She hasn't the
foggiest idea of how to fly. She can't teach anyone else. She's no good to
anyone but herself."
L: I helped my younger brother.
R: Big deal-here you have a novel ability and you can't help the world.
L: Why must I help the whole world?
R: You must! It needs help!
L: But I didn't create the need. The only way the world can be helped is to
help itself.
R: You have a special gift-you have been blessed and honored especially. You
owe the world to give it away.
L: Give it away? What good will that do? I'll just be depleted. And what
will you have learned?
R: Better to give us a bit of water than to let us die of thirst.
L: But I become thirsty.
R: Then you'll be just like us. Ha, Ha, Ha!
L: Why so happy?
R: Triumphant. Rejoice for we have defeated you! We have won! We have won!
L: But what have you won?
R: Status quo. We like where we are. Don't shake us up. We have enough
problems without have to deal with this kind of idealistic nonsense.
Intriguing, yes, but practical? No, good to laugh at, to ridicule. Keep it
down, it's dangerous. The unknown will upset us. We can't afford to be upset
any more than we are. Life is too precarious as it is. Unless you can offer
a life raft to cling to, we want no part of you and your harebrained
schemes.
L: Life is scary.
R: Damn right. Why, we could tell you stories...
L: That would only serve to cover up the issue. Please, let's not play the
game of smoke screen or fake-it.
R: Facades are necessary to hide behind. They give some protection against
being overwhelmed by forces too great for any single individual. We need the
handicaps, the tools, the quick and easy answers. It takes too much time
away from the effort we must apply to maintain our stance in this risky
society to spend on frivolities-like your idea of flying. We have to
survive. We can't afford to take this other stuff seriously. We can't.
L: I understand. But tell me this-how is it that I can?
R: (Mumble.)
L: Hi, Younger Brother.
Younger Brother: Hi, Linda.
L: How did you like flying with me?
YB: It was great for a while and then I got tired.
L: I tried to hold you up longer, but you're getting heavy!
YB: Well, it's hard to do.
L: For now, because you're just learning. It'll get easier.
YB: Okay.
L: Hi, kids.
Kids: Hi Linda, come be at our level.
L: What level is that?
K: The level of having fun!
L: Who are you?
K: We are the young people in your life.
L: You mean children?
K: No, we're the Inner Children of the people you know.
L: Cool.
K: Can you really fly?
L: Yup.
K: Gee, that must be fun...maybe someday we can fly, too.
L: Sure, why not? Hey, Younger Brother, would you like to tell them about
your experience?
YB: (He does.)
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NOTE
The difference between the two groups was that the kids were gathering out
of a childlike spontaneous curiosity while the reporters were demanding
explanations. I don't like to be put on the spot by people who have no
intention of trying out the "sport" or "game" of flying; who just analyze,
criticize, complain and ask unanswerable questions. The kids know better.
They seem to sense that, in the end, the hows and whys and wherefores of
flight aren't something to understand just by talking about it. It's
something you *do.* So, the best approach isn't to verbalize, it's to act.
And Younger Brother is the perfect model for these kids; he's their own age.
The flying may be short, slow and low, if need be, but that's okay because
he's a beginner and not expected to play the "expert." Once the kids see
that he can do it, flying won't be such a humungous challenge for them (as
it is for the reporters). It's something to take gradually, one step into
the air at a time.

http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html (Dream Flights)
http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html (Dream Flights)





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The View from the Bridge

March 2004

Jean Campbell

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Spain 1103

My heart goes out to those who have been torn away
And to those who have to stay
Bombed off their beloved ones on this day

My mind wonders, whether this is the way
That may lead to peace some day
Whatever peace may be today

My limbs feel weak, I have to say
All my power low today
No feet to walk, no hands to pray

Just wait for these dark clouds to go away
Ralf Penderak 3/11/04

Last night I attended a meeting which introduced the Nonviolent Peace Force
www.nonviolentpeaceforce.org to a group of people meeting in the Unitarian
Church in Norfolk, Virginia. As the meeting went on, I realized why dreams
are so important to the peace movement.

At the question and answer session after the speakers, someone asked the
question of how to talk with people in our geographical area about Peace,
when there are so many military people who live here and so many
conservative Christians. The response in the room was a heaviness, a
feeling that conflict resolution is hard, maybe impossible.

When I said that one answer was the solution we had found on the World
Dreams Peace Bridge, that of involving our dreams and working with children,
it was as if the sun came out from behind the clouds in the room. People's
faces lightened. They began to smile and look more hopeful.

I think the reason for that is because we all know what it feels like to
dream. And though dreaming may be a serious business, even a scary business
at times, still in dreams anything can happen. Our dreaming self pulls out
all the stops and says, "This is your life too!"

When people asked to hear more about the Peace Train, they laughed to
discover that children around the world were now sending trains to one
another, adding on to trains, sending them back with love. When they heard
that the Peace Train grew out of a dream, they smiled and nodded, and wanted
to hear the whole story.

After the meeting, several people came up to me to ask about how to get
involved with the Peace Train. Fortunately, I was wearing my Children's
Peace Train tee shirt, and I could just let them copy from my shirt
www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org

There was also a lot of amazement that the Peace Bridge was sending toys to
children in Baghdad.

Now, of course war and violence are grim business, and all of us feel at
times as Ralf does in the poem above, written immediately after bombs killed
over 200 people in the subways in Spain. Subways are trains too, and if
this were a dream we might be talking about bombs going off in the
unconscious. Yet where but on the Peace Bridge can we express these
feelings? Where else but on the Peace Bridge can a man from Germany and
another from Japan talk about the residual feelings from World War II?
Where else can someone from Israel talk about his dream for people joining
hands across the Jordan? And where can we turn our dreams toward waking
actions?

This month on the Peace Bridge, we have been able to send a second shipment
of therapeutic toys to children in Baghdad's Season Arts School, and hope to
be able to send packages soon to our friend Dr. Karzan Ali in Erbil in
northern Iraq.

Jeremy has written the text for a children's poster book about Peace Trains,
which will be published in South Korea and used as a model for other,
similar Peace Train books illustrated by children's Peace Train pictures.

Nick has added to the Peace Training site at www.peacetraining.org where
there will eventually be a history of peace trains, and suggestions for how
to conduct a Peace Train Workshop.

There is nothing wrong with dreaming...BIG.




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Galactic Waves: Dreaming with the Trees

Galactic Moon. White Spectral Wizard Year

© Nick Cumbo

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The Waves is a newsletter reporting on the explorations of the Sea Life
community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims to bring
together a circle of dreamers from around the globe, collaborating in mutual
dreaming adventures, and ‘dreaming with and for the earth itself’

Link: http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife

During the Galactic Moon, we participated in a 'Dreaming with the Trees'
project. We learnt a way of hooking ourselves up to the energy web of the
trees, to empower ourselves in flight during conscious dreaming travel, and
explored ways in which we could slow the rapid deforestation around the
world; asking our dreams for guidance as to how to assist the Tree of Life
project, being run by the Life in Africa Foundation.

Ever since I was a kid, I was taught that trees were central to our very
existence upon the earth. At the very least trees need carbon dioxide, and
we need fresh oxygen. A balanced relationship is essential for our future
survival. There's no doubt that the continued logging of old-growth forests,
has a negative impact on our environment.

Meanwhile, the trees live peacefully, their roots nourishing the earth, and
their leaves rustling in the wind, immersed in the natural harmony that
surrounds. Perhaps the trees have something to teach us?

The purpose of this project was to embrace the energy and wisdom of trees
through our dreaming, and to promote greater respect for them and their
protection. In discussion we shared spiritual practices involving the trees,
and considered ways in which we could improve their environmental
conditions. Vega shared an idea for making a “prayer tree”, pointing us to
some magical inspiration:

http://www.soultospirit.com/earth/articles/shamanism/prayer_trees.asp

Pasquale, the creator of our sister forum LD4ALL, followed up with some
other interesting spiritual practices involving the trees:

http://forum.ld4all.com/

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One is indeed hugging the tree or standing with your back to it with your
hands touching. Just connect to the tree and feel the tree. Just talk to it
in your mind, you will feel/see/know a response. Sometimes even see the
guardian of the tree and communicate with it. Sometimes the tree will give
you their name. Do it with a tree that attracts you, most likely it will
have something to tell you.

Another one is a cool meditation I have done, which is becoming a tree and
feeling how it is to be a tree. This was very wonderful as it gave me an
understanding about trees - they are all one tree energy and 'travel' by
shifting awareness through different trees. It is not like they are bound to
the place they happen to grow.
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Pasquale also shared a conscious dream in which she shapeshifted into a
wolf-like creature, in search of dense forest, only to discover that
wherever she went there were only a few trees and a lot of humans wandering
around. “I simply cannot find a nice quiet piece of forest where there are
no humans”. On waking she realized that this was “probably all too true!
Especially in Holland where there are not many forests and those which
remain are quite small and have bicycle routes and walking paths all across
them”.

I set out into dreaming with the intention of participating in a DaFuMu (big
dream of good fortune) for the trees, and received an unexpected gift in
return:

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CONSCIOUS DREAM: FLIGHT OF THE TREES (Nick/Explora)

I become conscious in my dream. I think I'm outside; I can't remember what
it is I wanna do. The dream is still powering into play, and my dreambody
begins to spin around and around. I suddenly feel that I should look within
to find the smartest course of action. I focus all my attention on the
heart; still spinning, and now with the intention to manifest a teacher of
the higher self, from within, and into the external world.

It works! As my spinning comes to a close, I see that a new man has
appeared. He looks older and has reddish/orange hair. I decide to ask him
what his name is. When I do, he replies with the word 'Tree'. At first, I am
reminded of Pasquale's meditation about the trees all sharing the body, and
assume that he is another representative of the flowing 'being' of the tree
spirit. Then I realise that the message of his name is that we are doing the
dreaming with the trees project right now, and that I wanted to try
communicating with a tree.

There are a number to choose from; so I go with whichever one feels right. I
walk over to it, and at first try speaking with it using my voice, but that
doesn't work all too well. I decide that I need to tune right into the
energy of the tree, in order to speak with it. I wrap myself around it! As I
do, I notice that 'Jesse' and another friend have appeared along with a
shamanic drum of some sort. I get the feeling that it's not really Jesse and
is actually my spirit guide; he just has that familiar energy which I
recognise.

I speak to them; asking what I can do to communicate with the trees. He
laughs; the awesome rhythm of their drumming still in progress, and tells me
to keep doing what I'm doing now. Soon enough, some success! The tree seems
to be opening up, or more specifically I seem to be passing into the inner
hull of the tree. It's empty, apart from a small single root at the center.
This seems to be important. I notice that the root is cut off down near the
base, for one reason or another.

At some point, I remember asking the tree to show me what we could do to
support the environment, and the center single root growing taller through
the middle of the tree. Other inner parts of the tree rearrange themselves
to form a cryptic message, which I can't quite understand at the time, and
soon enough I am standing around again.

Now, I decide that I will try and tune into the energy of another tree. I
put both arms out, at 90 degrees to the hips, there in the air above and
around me. As I do this, a screen begins to appear. The mind is silent, and
soon the bubbly green writing of the screen seems to be telling me how many
trees energy I'm linked into! 1,3,5, 10, … It's awesome! I can feel myself
powering up, spreading myself amongst the mental network of the trees.

It doesn't stop there! As the number grows; myself now connecting to this
every larger web of energy and life; my friend Alana appears. She seems to
want to talk to me, but as I begin to rise higher into the air, I know that
this isn't really the right moment to talk. I'm torn between the options of
staying to talk (so as not to appear rude), and this most incredible,
magical moment of opportunity with the trees!

I surge with the energy of the trees; gripping hold of my freedom, realising
that in some cases a certain sense of detachment is necessary. I now know
that my flight; is actually assisting Alana break free of attachment and
find her higher purpose. At least 100 trees now span across the screen. I
sense their presence with me. We are seekers of the infinite, and I am
lifted into flight. The personal power and joy I now feel is immense.
Streaming out into the sky, I see myself looking out across a city.

I'm half wondering if this is Melbourne; the detail is so intense, every
last element of every building can be seen. This scene is familiar, as
though I witnessed it in earlier dream that night. I race across the sky, in
absolute perfect control of my flight; my hands still out like wings, and my
feet in a pin-drop position!

Finally, I see something there far away in the horizon. It's a host of Asian
dancers, doing a traditional dance. It's quite beautiful to see from above.
Hovering above in the sky, I'm in an awfully playful mood. I begin to do
this bow and dance routine in the sky above, before finally coming back to
land next to one of the dancers. She must be about 30, and I jovially ask,
"What are you guys doing?" I'm full of charm, and decide that since they're
not really guys, I probably shouldn't really call them guys after all. The
woman laughs at me; she seems surprised to find such a friendly visitor drop
down from the sky!
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One thing that especially interests me about bringing together a large
community of dreamers, is our potential to dream for other communities
involved in work for the benefit of our planet. This project was in part
inspired by reading about the Tree of Life 4 Africa project, being run by
the Life in Africa Foundation.

http://lia4.com/7/trees/

The Tree of Life 4 Africa project is based in Uganda, East Africa, and aims
to facilitate global mass participation in creating a rapid and meaningful
change in the developmental direction of our planet, and the well-being of
the people on it.

For every $8 Tree of Life 4 Africa sold…
$2 pays for a real tree, sustainably planted in Africa
$2 empowers the global and African people who helped to create the sale
$2 enables the African connections, thru which the global network will grow
$2 impacts Africa communities with new forms of credit for participatory
development.

Having first met Christine Jordan, the founder of the Life in Africa
Foundation through the World Dreams Peace Bridge, I decided to ask if she’d
be interested in us joining a DaFuMu (dream of big good fortune) for the
Tree of Life 4 Africa project.

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TREE OF LIFE 4 AFRICA

Hi Nick,

My name is Christina Jordan, I am the Founder of the Life in Africa
Foundation. I’ve just taken a look at your site and find it so very
interesting; though I have to admit to you I don't know much at all about
team dreaming.

That said, over the course of developing the piece training network, when
people have asked what they could do to help, my answer has typically been
something along the lines of "pray" or "send all your positive energy." If I
had an extra $10,000 right now I'm not sure what I would do with it. Part of
the essence of this project is that it will create itself virtually from
next to nothing. It's the way the concepts interlock and interact on the
impact level that will make it run... getting that out of my head in words
and an order that will help it to make sense to others is really THE
challenge.

One way to describe what I'm developing is as system to enable the African
grassroots to have access to the fruits of the Internet in the form of
development "goodies," such as alternative forms of development credit. Key
to the system is the social collateral that the "glass-house" transparency
of the Internet makes possible.

Nick, I also find the Tree of Life concept inspiring, but there are other
things that need to happen before it will get off the ground. Namely, Trees
won't sell without the people to sell them. On Monday, I'm bringing in a new
user group of 5 new African "piece builders" who are completely new to the
Internet. They'll be doing what I hope is the final testing of agent
training materials we'll be launching Africa wide in March. Then there's the
Time4Africa campaign, which is designed to bridge the financial gap for
potential agents to be able to undergo the training... There's also a
coaching structure to put into place, and lots of technical fine-tuning to
do at this point that I feel very unqualified to do.

I think I see that it's possible to get the basics of the system I've been
"seeing" for over 2 years finally "erected" between now and September. What
I don't know is if I have the strength to do it! It daunts me, scares me. I
feel too often as though I am buckling under the weight of it. I feel I need
help, but don't know how to ask for it in the absence of words to describe
the new paradigm emerging with every step I take. Inside of me it feels like
a ball of loose threads spinning; my task is to catch them in and piece them
together in the right order - this is very important - and then push them
out into the world with words that can help others to see it.

My sleeping dreams associated with this process have been lucid but few - In
each I am a warrior figure. It's dreaming/seeing while awake that brings the
conceptual images, and often leaves me feeling my sword is not (yet) sharp
enough for the battle. A sWord is a word with an S. The S is the essence of
the snake in the garden - the appeal that draws us into a new level of
reality. What I need to be able to do to make these radically new
socio-economic concepts fly, is describe them in a way that makes
participation appealing across cultures.

The order of things dictates addressing the lowest common denominator first,
and so that's where I am now. Entering this last phase of testing with a new
group of African newbies means making sure they get it, even if nobody else
does right now. The main thrust of their training is about the nature and
location of online opportunities and platforms for change - including but
not limited to the piecetrain and what it will become.

You ask about my organization - at this point it's an assistant, 8 in-house
trainees, 2 remote testers and me. There's also a discussion group at
http://click4africa.com, which might have members interested in Sea Life -
you're welcome to post something there.

Nick, I don't know at all if any of this helps you understand what you
wanted to know, but the ramble has done me some good. Thanks enormously for
your interest.

.piece

Christina
Life in Africa
http://piecetrain.com
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By participating in a DaFuMu (big dream of good fortune) for this program,
my hope was at the very least that we could help inspire a flow of positive
spiritual energy to the project, and bring good luck its way.

There is a Planetary Movement focusing on calendar change, changing to a 13
Moon 28 Day Calendar in order to reconnect to natural cycles that encourage
peace and unity. “The Lakota Indians based their 13 Moon Calendar on the
keya, or turtle since the turtle has 13 scales on it’s back. Modern science
has even discovered that dolphins keep time with 13 sets of 28 grooves along
their teeth.”

http://www.tortuga.com/

My DaFuMu reminded me of the importance of each of us doing whatever we
could to spread knowledge of the 13 Moon Calendar, and it’s incredible
potential for recreating a global culture built on the strong foundations of
equality, harmony and love. I was given to understand, that I was one of a
growing number of people whom others could ask, for exploring the
applications of the 13 Moon Calendar, and gaining answers to their own
questions about its use. In the eloquent words of a turtle (keeper of the
way of 13 moons), who appeared to me in dreamtime only a few months earlier,
“Turtle comes to teach the humans on Earth how to use their resources most
effectively”.

Finally, Vega dropped in with the results of her own DaFuMu (big dream of
good fortune) for the project:

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In a country close to the equator, I’m digging furrows for
potato-cultivation. It’s a bit over midnight, the moon is almost full. When
digging, I’m positioned under the earth, on some kind of underground
scaffold with a layer of earth above me, so that I am somewhat balancing
over the furrow - a deep shaft of about ten meters. Someone hands me a bag
of horse manure mixed with straw, which I blend into the furrow. Since its
rather dry, the sandy earth from the walls on the sides of the furrow
sometimes collapse a bit into the furrow, but it doesn’t seem to be a
problem, I just clear the furrow again.

I feel very drowsy, and repeatedly doze off, which worries me a bit since I
realize I might fall in the shaft if I fall asleep. When dozing off, I have
a dream within the dream: I wake up in a room, wondering where I am, trying
to collect my senses. When I reach out my hand, I touch a rocking-chair, and
conclude I must be in my cabin. Having no clear memory of having returned to
the cabin, I still feel disoriented. I let it be at that, and step up,
looking through the window. There are two rather tall, modern buildings,
with a glassed passage between them in the air. In the middle of this path,
there is a man with outstretched arms and intense, almost glaring eyes. I
think of a scare-crow or The Fool in Crowleys tarot deck.

What struck me when waking up was the parallels - since I was
drowsing/dreaming, I kept shifting between the under-the-earth and the
over-the-earth scene. Then when stepping on a bus to work this morning, it
struck me that both scenes had a vehicle-like feeling - there were the
potato-land with furrow/wall/furrow following each other, and the
building-link-building-thing.

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Realising Uganda’s position right on the equator, and the similiarity
between the concept of digging furrows for potato-cultivation, and Christine
’s work with the Life in Africa foundation, there was a feeling that this
dream was offering guidance for the Tree of Life 4 Africa project. If this
had been my dream, I wondered if it might also be offering a reflection of
Christine’s involvement with the project, and what she was trying to
achieve. In any case it seemed to suggest, that while not everything might
work out exactly as planned, things would sort themselves out in the end.

Many thanks to the trees for making so many of our dreams possible!

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Stay tuned next month for the results of some time-travelling adventures, in
‘Dreaming Our Way to 2012’. We welcome new dreamers to join us in our
adventures.

Email: explora@...
Forum: http://sealife.dreamofpeace.net/
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explora@...
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Message: 734-001
Subject: The Watcher

dream_title: The Watcher
dream_date: 02/13/04
dreamer_name: Nahu

dream_text: I am let out of prison, as if on a special furlough or
outpatient visit of sorts, and go to visit my brother. I can only remember
smatterings of that visit.

In the interim I have to return and when returning encounter a female in a
grey room with a male, who seems to be either uninterested, or alienated
from the female, and does not want to have sex with her, which she proffers
to him.

I encourage him to have sex, but he rejects it,and the female seems
frustrated and seems to be going back to the prison where I am going. She
gives them a pass and goes on, while I, suddenly baffled by her gesture,
look for my own pass, which I cannot find. I dump my papers out of my
wallet, but no pass.

Suddenly an intelligent, female doctor comes out of somewhere, and says,
"It's okay, (as if to protect me) I know him." And takes me upstairs to her
office for a interview.

"Where have you been, what happened?" She asks. But I am still at a loss to
explain my apparent temporary amnesia.

Suddenly surreal like, the dream flips and I find myself in a different
setting. There is a house, a woman stands outside and suddenly overhead, two
Darth Vader like aliens go floating over, but I feel no fear. That seems a
predominant feeling,as though I have overecome something. Immediately after
that a huge fish, a grouper with thick lips appears and floats over.

I am aware distinctly that I am watching this whole scenario as if from a
perspective somewhere due north of my body.

dream_comments: The whole dream seems transformative, and uplifting. It is
as if I have overcome something inside myside myself. I am elated by the
sense of perspective, I feel I have discovered a new perspective (artform)
to view the dream scene more lucidly.

Comments:
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Message: 734-002
Subject: grandchild with golden chains

dream_title: grandchild with golden chains
dream_date: 18 february 2004
dreamer_name: chrissinkov@...

dream_text: grandchild when she was 6or 8 years old,she was happy that i
gave her my jewelery,exactely my golden chains around her neck

Comments:
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Message: 734-003
Subject: Turtles

dream_title: TURTLES
dream_date: FEBUARY-2004
dreamer_name: LOST IN DREAMS

dream_text: ME, MY BROTHER AND HIS GIRLFRIEND ( MY BEST FRIEND) WERE WALKING
IN SOME KIND OF FORREST WE WERE LOST , AND THERE WERE BIG BIG TURTLES AROUND
EVERYWHERE WE WERE SCARED OF THEM BUT I TOLD THEM.."LOOK I TOLD YA'LL THERE
THEY GO"

dream_comments: I HAVE HAD 2 DREAMS THAT CONTAIN BIG TURTLES . IT'S LIKE
THEY ARE 0VERGROWN OR SOMETHING.

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Message: 734-004
Subject: Fight

dream_title: FIGHT
dream_date: 2/18/2004
dreamer_name: LOST IN DREAMS

dream_text: ONE OF MY FRIENDS FROM THE CITY WAS FIGHTING ONE OF MY FRIENDS
FROM A LITTLE TOWN, AND I GOT IN THE WAY AND GOT HIT, MY TOOTH FELL OUT AND
I WAS TRYING TO GET IT FIXED. (?) THEN IT BROKE IN HALF.

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Message: 734-005
Subject: What does this Mean?

dream_title: WHAT DOES THIS MEAN ?
dream_date: 2/18/04
dreamer_name: LOST IN DREAMS

dream_text: I WAS AT MY DADS HOUSE SOAKING IN THE BATHTUB, FOR SOME REASON I
WAS IN A HURRY AND I KEPT LOOKING AT THE TIME WAS 12:44 AM AND I GOT SCARED
AND STARTED THINKING "I NEED TO GET OUT BEFORE SOMETHING GETS ME" SO I GOT
OUT THE SHOWER AND I KEPT LOOKING IN THE MIRROR AND I DIDNT LIKE WHAT I SAW,
(ME) FOR SOME REASON I RAN INTO THE HALL WAY AND TRIED TO RUN TO MY BROTHERS
ROOM, I WAS THINKING HIM AND HIS GIRLFRIEND MY BEST FRIEND WERE IN THERE,BUT
I FELL, AND I COULDNT TALK. WAS TRYING TO SCREAM FOR SOMEONE TO HELP ME BUT
I COULDNT OPEN MY MOUTH. MY WHOLE BODY FELT NUMB. NOTHING WOULD COME OUT. I
WAS TRYING TO YELL FOR MY MOMS BOYFRIEND TO HELP ME. WHILE I WAS TRYING TO
YELL, I REALIZED SOMETHING WAS DRAGGING ME PULLING ME INTO THE BATHROOM AND
I STILL COULDNT SCREAM. THEN THE DOOR SLAMMED SHUT BUT I DIDNT CLOSE IT.

dream_comments: 1. I DONT LIVE OR SPEAK TO MY FATHER AT THE MOMENT.
2. MY MOMS BOYFRIEND WAS ASLEEP IN THE ROOM.
3. I COULD FEEL MYSELF TRYING TO SCREAM IN THE "REAL" BUT STILL NOTHING
WOULD COME OUT.
I REALLY DID FEEL NUMB , I ALSO FELT LIKE SOMETHING WAS ON TOP OF ME , LIKE
SOMETHING OR SOMEONE WAS PULLING ME DOWN.
WHEN I FINALLY WOKE UP I WAS SCREAMING AND I JUST RAN AND WENT TO LAY WITH
MY LITTLE BROTHERS.
THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS WHEN I SLEEP IN THE LIVING ROOM ON THE COUCH.
I HAVE DREAMS LIKE THAT, THAT I AM BEING PULLED DOWN OR PUSHED DOWN, AND I
AM NEVER ABLE TO WAKE UP WHEN I WANT OR YELL WHEN I WANT. THEY ARE NOT
ALWAYS THE SAME DREAMS BUT THEY ARE ALIKE IN MANY WAYS. PLEASE HELP ME TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON.

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Message: 734-006
Subject: Thawing Out

dream_title: Thawing Out
dream_date: 2/19/04
dreamer_name: DreamGiver

dream_text: A plane crashes near our house and some people come and tell us
that we (my husband and I) need to come to the crash site and start exuming
bodies. I freak out and tell them that I can't do that, that's too gross.
But somehow they convince me. Next scene is I'm at the crash site and I'm
just standing and observing them exuming whole bodies of people without any
scratches or damages on their bodies being carried out of the debris from
the crash site. I do not know the group of people who are helping exume the
bodies but my husband is helping them. Then the group that is exuming the
bodies wants to know if they can bring all the bodies to my house (must be
because they know I own a large house???). I object to this because there
are what looks to be about 30 dead looking bodies!! But the group tells me
they don't know if they are dead because everyone feels frozen solid. I
notice all the bodies are like cold, when you pick them up they are stiff as
boards. !
So I don't object and allow them to bring the bodies back to my house. We
place them all around the house. For some reason I know that not all the
bodies are here, like some people might be missing some of their children
and spouses. I don't know this but presume this in my dream. And then I
think (in my dream) how sad all these people dieing and if any of these
people were any of my family I would want them to take care of my body until
family came and identified them. (I guess that's why I let them bring them
to my house??!!). Next scene is that life goes on as normal. And there's
dead people all over my inside my house..laid out all over. One in
particular is a man that we place on our couch in a room in our house that
we call the "vineyard". In my dream I set up chairs behind this couch and a
leader comes and leads worship and there are people that I don't know except
for one friend who is sitting next to me that I know. As soon as we are
singing the "dead" ma!
n on the couch starts to move and open his eyes. I notice his eyes are a
complety dark. NO whites showing just a dark blue color (navy blue to be
exact). And my friend next to me says, "oh look, he's waking up!!" and we
all look, but continue on doing other things and singing and then the "dead"
man looks like he's going back to sleep. So then after a couple of hours he
wakes up. Eyes look normal and I start to question him. I ask, "do you
remember anything?" He starts to tell me that he remembers being on a plane
and it taking a dip and then the plane goes nose down and everyone is
screaming and he remembers that he says that he's not going to live through
this...that he's going to die... then he goes on to tell me that after that
thought, he doesn't remember a thing. So then I start wondering if all these
other people are not truly dead, but just unconscious like him. So I start
going around the house and feeling for pulses on some of the bodies. But I
don't feel anything. Next scene is all these "dead" bodies start coming
alive. !
There are about 30 or so people. Next scene is we are all sitting in a
circle and chatting with one another. Some time has passed obviously because
everyone seems pretty content and like we all know each other pretty well. I
start thinking that I've got to get these people back to their homes but
notice that they just have the clothes on their backs. So my husband and I
buy them all new clothes and suitcases. And then one of the ladies in the
group asks me, "where's my daughter...she was on the plane with me?" and I
say, "I'm not sure (thinking ... I don't want to tell her the truth...like
maybe she got sucked out of the plane or when the plane takes the nose dive
it probably started to break apart and some people just didn't survive that)
and I tell her that I didn't find her daughter there. I was expecting the
lady to get really upset but she gets this really far off look and says
just, "Oh..." then another person inquires about their husband, and I give
them the same answer that I gave this other woman. And then another lady
asks about her son...and I give her the same reply as I gave to the others.
And their responses are all about the same. I then begin to think that we
need to get these people back to their homes and I'm sad to see them go. But
they are all well?? And peaceful and look happy. So my husband and I order a
school bus to take them all back home. All the people load up on the bus and
we can see them all and we are sad to see them go. And then I wake up!!

dream_comments: I don't know who the people are that come to our house to
ask us to assist them in exuming the bodies from the wreckage. There are 3
of them I think. One for sure. They look like paramedics because of what
looks like a uniform that they are wearing. I don't recognize any of the
people from the wreckage. Although now that I think about it. The man on the
couch resembles a friend of mines brother?? The group that meets in our home
when we gather to sing come in and seem to be not bothered by all the bodies
laying around...like its a normal occurence in our household or
something??!!! But I only know one of the persons. She goes to my church and
is an older lady that I respect and love. I actually have a room in my house
presently that I named the vineyard. I gave it this name because I spend
alot of time praying here and worshipping the Lord. The name comes from The
Bible, John 15. It's my "abiding" room! I would like feedback on this dream
from El!
ectric Dreams and to publish my dream on the Electric Dreams website. Thank
you.

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Message: 734-007
Subject: Mom and I in a sage fight

dream_title: Mom and I in a sage fight
dream_date: 2/21/04
dreamer_name: tricia

dream_text: I was standing in a kitchen that was unfamiliar to me. My mom,
whom hasn't talked to me in a month, tossed sage spices on me and in my
face. I ran out of the house and jumped into a car, that was unfamiliar to
me,
with my husband. Then I woke up.

dream_comments: What is sage about in a dream?
Why was my mother tossing sage on me?
Why was the kitchen and the car unfamiliar?

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Message: 735-001
Subject: Black pool of nothing in my bed

dream_title: Nightmare - Black Pool of Nothing In My Bed
dream_date: 02/22/04
dreamer_name: earthisis

dream_text: Every night for the last 5 years I have dreamed the same dream.
I would like this to end. I wake up screaming 2 hours after I go to bed.

The only thing that I remember is that there is something else in the bed
with me. I categorize it as a "black pool (blob)" and I wake up screaming
and jump out of bed right through my bedroom door into the hallway.

I wish I could have more to give as it seems I am blocked pass this point.

It is always the same dream.

dream_comments: What does this all mean, especially when it the same dream.
No changes whatsoever.

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Message: 735-002
Subject: Alone in the dark

dream_title: ALone in the dark
dream_date: 02/20/04
dreamer_name: Alisha

dream_text: I was in my boyfrineds bed laying in the dark when I woke up and
heard voices and laughing in the living toom, I couldn't see who it was bu
tI knew it was my boyfriend and his family, even though I had never met them
before. I couldn't get out of bed or yell, I just softly called my mans name
and was scared because I was really sick and coldn't get up. After I kept
calling and calling for my man I noticed he was right there in the room with
me, standing in the dark, watching me. I told him I knew he was there and he
just kept quiet then finally he came to me in the bed and layed down with me
and hugged and kissed me.

dream_comments: My boyfriend does not want me to meet his family, I feel he
is embarassed. I am scared in the dream.

Comments: 736-001
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Message: 736-001 [735-002]
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO ALONE IN THE DARK!

sounds like your boyfriend is nice and u feel safe with him. which according
to what u sent me previously is exactly what u need right now. i don't think
he's embarrassed of u i think he might b embarrassed of his family and
doesn't want anyone to meet them. maybe he's afraid u won't approve of them
rather than the other way around. or u might think less of him because of
his family. he could b afraid of losing u to someone he may think is better
for u.
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Message: 737-001
[ed.note: duplicate post]
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Message: 738-001
Subject: Old man

dream_title: old man
dream_date: i dont rememer
dreamer_name: anonymous

dream_text: well im at my elementary school when a spooky old man which is a
robot keeps chasing me around the playround, so i have to hide behind this
wall and when i look around me im surrounded by spooky old robots.

dream_comments: ive had this dream twice
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Message: 738-002
Subject: The Dragon in the Movie Theatre

dream_title: The Dragon in the Movie Theater
dream_date: Off and on since 5/98
dreamer_name: SKK717

dream_text: So I am 9 months pregnant sitting in a movie theater watching a
fast paced horror movie, when suddenly I hear screaming from the lobby of
the movie theater. I don't see it yet, but I hear loud breathing and know
some hideous beast is waiting out there. Everybody runs screaming for the
exits. I run towards the exit to the lobby. Right when I get to the door I
go into labor, extreme active labor. I am paralyzed, in pain and lying
helpless on the floor. I have an image of this "dragon" even though I still
haven't seen it. And I can feel it come closer, and closer and closer. The
air gets hot and heavy. This is when I wake up relieved, but frustrated.

dream_comments: Why do I wake up before the scariest part and why are my
feelings mixed? You can reach me at Kmaesbegonia@...
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Message: 738-003
Subject: Broken Heart

dream_title: broken heart
dream_date: 02/23/04
dreamer_name: cina

dream_text: Agustin and Alan Haro were gonna meet this one girl by the
stairs at mansfeld in the parent pick up area. But while they were gonna do
thatme and Sami were upstairs in the main tech waiting for that juggalo
Jake, you know the one with the green hair to get out of the bathroom and
when he came out he turned into Anthony S. well n*E ways we both followed
him to were he normally hangs out, with the ICP peoples then me and you were
talking to Hai he was so so so so nice then he told us we should be apart of
there crowd so we were going to start wearing there shirts and hangin with
them. But me and you all of a sudden got into a big fight and i mean it was
huge and so we went to go check up on Agustin and he wasnt there but what we
found out is that Alan had been shot. Now we were really mad at eachother to
the point that we were crying and we stopped and i asked you its cuz you
have no true friends huh?, then you just nodded yes (i was sitting next to a
big rock!
) then you told me GET USED TO THAT ROCK HITTING YOU ON THE SIDE OF YOUR
HEAD!! then i was like FINE SAMANTHA THIS IS THE END OF OUR FRIENDSHIP!!!
THEN I WENT CRYING INTO A DOCTORS OFFICE AND ASKed them if they had a
counseler and they said no that thats only in schools then i told them all
about what happend and i dunno how but i guess i recorded it all into a
notebook so they told me to go with the guy that was in a horse carrage to
go mail it off. and were it ended was in the horse carriage and it was
raining...it was intense

dream_comments: I want to know what it means.
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Message: 738-004
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO THE SAGE FIGHT DREAM it was cute!

well this dream is simple some people say the kitchen is the heart of the
home others say the living room. u were in an unfamiliar kitchen cuz your
not used 2 being out of sorts or at odds with your mother. as for the sage.
sage is a cleansing herb native americans use it to spiritually clean the
air of negative energy. in this case whatever u and your mom r currently
fighting about apparently she blames u and or u blame yourself. she was
throwing the sage on u to get rid of your negative energy and so u can b the
person that she can talk to again. i thought it was very cute. it may have
been upsetting to u but i'm sorry that was very cartoonish and very sweet. u
got in the car cuz u were confused as to y your mom was blaming u when u
blame her and or u were just freaked out by her odd behavior and came home
to your husband for comfort.
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Message: 738-005
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO THE FRIENDS FIGHTIN DREAM!

the only thing this dream is telling u is to not stick your nose in other
people's business otherwise you'll end up getting hurt. some people need to
be left alone 2 fight their own battles. and the lil town and the big city
could mean that lil problems turn into big ones when others get involved. as
much as u would like to solve other people's problems for them sometimes
it's best if they figure things out on their own. i was once hired to
babysit 3 girls not because they couldn't look after themselves but as the
mom told me so i could be there to stop the fights. but because my own dad
was always trying to stop me and my sister from fighting i knew what she was
asking of me was the wrong thing to do. i spent the next few years looking
after those girls and because i wouldn't break up the fights they eventually
learned how to settle things on their own without a third party. the fights
became less frequent and if the younger was fighting with the older sister
the middle
sister would try to break it up cuz she knew i wouldn't. normally she would
just join in the fight and not stop anything. the fighting became a lot less
frequent and they learned to talk things out rather than acting out. all 3
girls get along a lot better with each other and have greater communication
between them.
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Message: 738-006
Subject: Re: RESONE TO THE OLD MAN AND THE ROBOTS

greetings and palpatations 2 the dark goddess in the dream u r in a social
situation and by a learning institution. the ole man is a euphenism for
"father". i think that u feel that your being attacked for being u and not
conforming to them and their standards and ways. the fact that this is an
elementary school represents that u feel this attitute is childish. the
robots represent people who r fake, artificial, not really themselves. i was
reading a book where it said something along the lines of: a woman of
character automatically has enemies. i personally think that conformity is
anti-god. we have all these planets, galaxies, people, culture , languages.
if god actually believed in any one way or any one right way of doing things
we would not live in a place that is multi faceted and multi-dimensional. i
was telling a friend of mine who insisted on fasting and giving up this and
giving up that-that the universe is about expansion not limitations. so
remember u can't be
anybody else other than who u r and that's exactly the person u r supposed
to and no god or goddess could ask anything more of u.
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Message: 738-007
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO THE GOLD GRANDCHILD CHAINS PERSON!

the gold chains r more spiritual than they r physical. we very often have
invisible ties to each other. in this dream u wanted only the best for this
child and u gave them your best. there's magnetic energy fields, aura's and
such. if u ever saw a couple getting closer and closer together u will
notice that they start to become psychically in tune with each other. look
alike, finish each other's sentences, know what the other is thinking,
calling for each other only minutes apart. i'm sure u hear we have an astral
cord and once it's snapped we cease to live. there have been cases of people
being physically ill with no known physical cause. some people r spiritually
attacked more often than not people shut down or attack themselves without
realizing. if u don't believe me there's this book called: SUBTLE ENERGY- by
dr. william collinge. he talks about overlapping energy fields and such. but
this is a good positive dream very special. and very sweet. u were
overlapping
your energy field with the childs cuz u wanted them to be happy and to let
this child know how much u care.
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Message: 739-001
Subject: Death in a garbage bag

dream_title: Death in a garbage bag
dream_date: February,25
dreamer_name: Ruby

dream_text: I came upon a dead man. I don't know whether I killed him or
not. But I stuffed him into a garbage bag and threw his body into a
dumpster. I kept telling myself that I should tell someone, but I couldn't.
So I don't know if I was protecting myself or someone else.

dream_comments: What does or could this mean?
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Message: 740-001
Subject: Re: RESONSE TO THE GARGAGE BAG DEATH

i'm thinking this is a former friend or x boyfriend and u didn't recognize
him because he changed too much on the inside and maybe isn't the same
person as he was when u first met. i think u got rid of this person or
dumped him and u don't know how much damage u did to him by doing this or if
u did any damage at all. i think u were with this person for all the right
reasons and left for the right reasons but still feel quilty about it. and u
wanna know how he's doing and if he's ok. u can inquire without intruding if
u know his friends co-workers and or former roomates. just ask and leave it
at that. no reason to go back u obviously felt it was time too move on. and
maybe focus more on your own problems instead.
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Message: 741-001
Subject: Re: PART II OF DEATH IN A GARBAGE BAG

so i didn't think of this till i was on the bus and i thought what if she is
protecting someone and if that's the case u probably knew someone who was
dating this really nice guy and she treated him like dirt or did something
behind his back he wouldn't have liked. and u probably liked this guy and
thought of him as a friend and u didn't want him to get hurt. and now your
thinking if only u said or did something, or something more than what u did,
or should u have gotten involved in what was going on between this couple in
the 1st place and now u wanna know how he's doing.
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Message: 742-001
Subject: confused

dream_title: confused
dream_date: 3-8-04
dreamer_name: anonymous

dream_text: My dream was about my boyfriend and I talking and then all of a
sudden there was another gril holding his hand in the oppisite side of me

dream_comments: what is that really tring to tell me?
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Message: 743-001
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO CONFUSED

SOUNDS TO ME LIKE U FEEL HE'S SAYING ONE THING BUT MEANING ANOTHER. MAYBE HE
TELLS U HE WANTS TO BE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH U BUT REALLY HE'S CHECKING OUT
HIS OPTIONS WHILE GOING OUT WITH YOU.
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Message: 743-002
Subject: Tom Still Doesn't Want His Secret Told?

I am at work, only it didn't look the same, and there was a mix of
co-workers and family and friends there. My husband was there and it seemed
we were not actually working, more like getting a hall ready for some event.
I was trying to explain something to the sister of my husband's
best-friend - only it didn't look like her, she was much older. For some
reason, she thought that her brother had an ulcer or something, and I was
about to explain that she was mistaken, that wasn't it... he was being moved
or was in the hospital because he has cancer.

Just as I was about to say that, our friend - her brother, walked up and
without actually saying it, let me know that I was not to tell her the
truth. I don't even know if she was even aware of him there. It was like he
and I locked eyes and everything else went away... we communicated without
words.

I glared at him because he didn't want me to tell and I thought she should
know.... "why bother her?" I heard in my head. I was beginning to argue with
him when my dog woke me up.

**************************Background****************************

This is the first time I have evered dreamed about someone who has passed
away...2/17/04

Tom, my husband's friend, died of base-of-tongue cancer and the end was
actually quite gruesome (although in the dream, Tom appeared normal and
healthy). Tom was only 45 and had never used any type of tobacco product.

When he was first diagnosed, he didn't want my husband to tell his family
about it. Tom had lost a lot of weight and was not speaking clearly. He'd
waited much too long to go to the doctor, and only finally gave in and went
because I threatened to call his ex-wife to
get his sister's phone number. My husband tried to honor Tom's wishes, but
it was awfully hard for him to skate the issue when talking to them and I
thought that they should now... so I told his sister. Of course, as the
cancer progressed, Tom was glad to have his family around him and did not
seem to hold anything against me for telling them. I have never once felt
guilty about telling them. It was the right thing to do and I stand by that.

So why would I dream something like this now? He's been dead 3 wks and I am
excutrix for his estate. I usually don't remember dreams much at all, and
this one is very vivid and out of the ordinary for me. I'm pretty puzzled by
it.
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Message: 744-001
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO UNCLE TOM'S SECRET ILLNESS

THIS WOMAN APPEARED OLDER 2 U B-CUZ SHE KNOWS SOMETHINGS WRONG WITH THIS TOM
PERSON AND SHE KNOWS HE'S KEEPING IT A SECRET. SHE APPEARS OLDER CUZ PEOPLE
AGE FASTER WHEN THEY R WORRIED OR STRESSED OUT. DOESN'T SOUND TO ME LIKE TOM
CARES ENOUGH ABOUT HIMSELF TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF. HE PROBABLY THINKS IT'S
MORE MINOR THAN IT REALLY IS AND WOULD RATHER TAKE CARE OF IT PRIVATELY THAN
TO WORRY ANYONE OVER HIS CONDITION. HE THINKS THAT IF U TELL HER IT WILL
AGRAVATE HIS CONDITION AND MAKE THINGS MORE DIFFICULT. HE FEELS IT'S BAD
ENOUGH TO SUFFER FROM HIS ILLNESS THAN TO HAVE TO WORRY SOMEONE ABOUT IT AS
WELL.
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Message: 745-001
Subject: RE: RESPONSE TO UNCLE TOM'S SECRET ILLNESS

Thank you for replying. But this all has already taken place.... so what I
don't understand is why I'd dream this now?
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Message: 746-001
Subject: RE: AS 2 Y YOUR DREAMING ABOUT UNCLE TOM NOW THAT HE GONE

so let's say u don't feel guilty and let's say his spirit is adjusting 2 the
spirit world and even though people gathered around and he seemed a lot more
happy and comfortable in the end. what if he's looking down on the people he
left b-hind and felt guilty cuz now all of these people r thinking if only
we knew sooner if only we could have done more 4 him. maybe that's what he's
resentful for. i read this autobiography of this guy who's father is an
orthodox jew every morning his father would wash his face, feet, and hands.
he didn't bother 2 ask y till years later. his father said: when u sleep at
nite u leave your body and visit with the dead. when u wake in the morning u
wash the dead off. this book is 7 tattoos by peter trachtenburg.(berg)?
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Message: 746-002
Subject: escalator

dream_title: escalator
dream_date:
dreamer_name: riSa

dream_text: i was in a huge toy store. it had escalators leading to the
upper floors. i bumped into a friend of my husband~s who asked for help with
picking a toy for his nephew. as i followed him upwards on the escalator he
suddenly seemed to be pulled downwards and started screaming. i realized
then that the escalator had caught his legs and they had bnee cut off at the
knees. i could see two huge bubbles of blood form and when he got to the top
he sat on the ground screaming and crying. i ran after him and when i got to
him i tired to comfort him as two men who seemed to work at the toy store
assured me they were calling the paramedics. then suddenly i turn around
from the two men to see my husbands friend standing and stomping his feet in
anger at what had happened. his legs and feet were back only his shoes were
all bloody. i couldn~t fathom what was going on and i felt extremely
distressed.

dream_comments:
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Message: 746-003
Subject: SEPTEMBER

dream_title: ARE WE TRAPPED BY FATE?
dream_date: SEPTEMBER
dreamer_name: anonymous

dream_text: EVERY SEPTEMBER I HAVE A STRANGE DREAM. IN THAT DREAM, I AM
OGING A LONG A HIGHWAY, DRIVING A BLUE TOYOTA THAT HAS NO STEERING WHEEL.
THE LICENSE PLATE SITS ON THE DASHBOARD. ITS LETTERS ARE (2B 2B 20) IN THAT
DREAM I HEAR A SQUEAL OF BRAKES AND SEE MYSELF SKIDDING ON A SLICK ROAD
STRAIGHT INTO A BRIGHT YELLOW STOP SIGN. IN THAT DREAM THE LEAVES ON THE
TREES ALONG SIDE THE ROAD ARE GOLD AND ORANGE, AND FALLING ALL AROUND ME,
ITS RAINING. I HAVE HAD THE DREAM SOMETIME IN SPETEMBER FOR THE PAST 10
YEARS

dream_comments:
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Message: 746-004
Subject: paradise

dream_title: paradise
dream_date: march 10 2004
dreamer_name: stac

dream_text: i had a dream that i was on an island and there was a bunch of
men and woman on the island and people would have a apple and a snake each
and on male and female would put there snakes on the table and the male and
female would go in the pool and if one snake killed the other the male and
female were not ment to be together. me and the guy that i picked were ment
to be to gether. also the male that was picked for me is my boyfriends close
friend that he grew up with. there was also alot of lust between the two of
us in the dream.

dream_comments:
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Message: 746-005
Subject: my mother in law

dream_title: my mother in law
dream_date:
dreamer_name: anonymous

dream_text: Dreamed that my mother in law gave me a kiss and I was very
shocked that she loved me when she never did.

there were children and pastries

dream_comments:
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Message: 746-006
Subject: strange

dream_title: strange
dream_date: 11/03/2004
dreamer_name: C.J

dream_text: i had a dream id been swimming and come home to my boyfriend we
argued about the fact i think he has been cheating on me...then afterwards i
go upstairs have a shower and i start bleeding uncontrolably like a period
but a lot stronger and heavier more like a waterfall off blood coming out of
me!

dream_comments: can anybody help me to figure this dream out please as it
did scare me quite alot!
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Message: 747-001
Subject: world on fire

dream_title: world on fire
dream_date: 03/09/2004
dreamer_name: walley

dream_text: i dream that there was two big balls of fire and i could see
that the world was coming to the end of the world.

dream_comments:
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Message: 747-002
Subject: Lost person and a pet

dream_title: Lost person and a pet
dream_date: March 7, 2004
dreamer_name: Maggie May

dream_text: I was standing in the middle of a room. I don't know where this
room is. Janet Leigh (actress) was sitting in a chair near the corner of the
room, but not looking at me. Without speaking, she relayed to me that her
daughter, Jamie Leigh Curtis, was missing. Again, without speaking, I
offered to help find her. Next scene, I am in my living room at home and
realize my new puppy was lost. Next scene, my daughter and I are standing on
the front porch of my house. I look towards the corner of the yard to my
left about 100 feet away and see my puppy, but he is full-grown now. I call
to him and he sits down. End of dream.

dream_comments: I never dream about famous people, so this was odd to me. My
dreams generally have more detail, not jumping from one quick scene to
another. I didn't have much feeling during the dream, but upon awakening, I
felt distressed about not helping find Jamie Leigh Curtis as I had promised,
and about losing my puppy because I should have been more careful with him.
The dimension of my yard is the same as in real life. But my yard is torn up
do to landscape work. In the dream, it was cleaned up and pretty.
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Message: 747-003
Subject: huge teeth

dream_title: huge teeth
dream_date:
dreamer_name: worried

dream_text: i was in court but i wasnt on trial. my boyfriend is an attorney
i must have gone there with him coz he was there too. my teeth became so
painful i ended up not being able to close my mouth coz they had overgrown
so much. they fell out and i had my old teeth back again.

dream_comments: i've been having these nightmares for a while. they worry me
coz i feel like i'm not getting the msg thats why it keeps comin back.they
all revolve around me not being able to close or clench my jaws, althou they
are different scenarios. please send me an interpretation of my dream. my
email is:
200414067@...
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Message: 747-004
Subject: death

dream_title: death
dream_date: 09/02/2004
dreamer_name: jaquoline

dream_text: I was walking down my ally next to my house and there were dead
people on the floor with blood up the walls and all over the floor someone
was chasing me with something in their hand then i fell over and woke up

dream_comments: it freaked me out
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Message: 748-001
Subject: Re: death DO U LIVE IN A BAD NEIGHBORHOOD OR WHAT???!

YES, that is a weird and creepy dream. maybe u feel lately like u have to
watch your back at work. ( a backstabber) or u feel like bad news is headed
in your direction and it's gonna affect a lot more people than just u. like
a layoff, an illness in the family, or someone moving away who's a family
member. and u think the family isn't going to b as close. don't know too
many variables on this one here. u could also have a person in your life who
is always looking for an excuse to complain and criticize about something
even if they have to make up a reason. that would b very unnerving.
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Message: 748-002
Subject: RE: death

Death usually warns of change. As for your trauma, I would think that you
are worried about a change that is taking place at this stage of your life.
However, as you did not give any specifics as to your personal situation, I
really can't confirm that.

Israel Oren
(James Ray Faddis)
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Message: 748-003
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO THE FIRE BALL END OF WORLD

well i think u've been watching too much news on t.v. this could b left over
feelings about 9/11. or u feel like there's too many things going on all at
the same time so in a sense things r changing far more quickly and rapidly
than u usually do. so in a sense it's the end of the way things r. and the
start of a whole new world.
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Message: 748-004
Subject: Re: SEPTEMBER- YOUR FATE IS IN YOUR HANDS MY DEAR!!!!

have u kept any journals or diary's over the years? what do u mean trapped
by fate? all u have to do is ask yourself what event triggered this dream.
it seems like a warning of some sort. your out of control but in charge. if
your driving the car is has something to do with u personally. did u feel
like u made a wreck out of your life? what mistake or regret do u have from
10 yrs. ago that u still blame yourself for??? if the license plate is on
the dashboard and the car is moving forward it means u though u were moving
ahead of the situation and u wanted to leave it behind but because the
license is on the dashboard it's saying u haven't left anything behind it's
still right in front of u and if u don't learn from your mistakes u r doomed
to repeat it such as the dream itself. because the car crashed without your
volition it means u wanted someone or something to stop u from the path u r
on. if your asking about fate this could have to do with relationships.
personal,
professional, a member of your immediate family. this thing about 2b 2b.
sounds like the beginning of a wedding ceremony. 2b or not 2b. or a warning:
this is 2b this is 2b. as for the 20 could be a date like 1920 or someone
who was 20 years of age.
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