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Volume #14 Issue #5
May 2007
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C O N T E N T S
++ Editor's Notes
Richard Wilkerson
++ Global Dreaming News
Harry Bosma
++ Column: An Excerpt from the Lucid Dream Exchange
Editor, Lucy Gillis
Integrating Lucid Dream Characters
David L. Kahn
++ Column: The View – World Dreams Peace Bridge:
Ebb and Flow
David L. Kahn
++ Dream: "F191"
Stan Kulikowski II
++ Article: Sex and Sustenance in Dreamwork
Kurt Forrer
++ Column: Dreaming Writers
DreamRePlay with David Jenkins, PhD
++ DREAM SECTION: From Kat Peters-Midland
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Editor's Notes
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Welcome to the May 2007 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to dreams and
dreamwork online.
If you are new to dreams and dreamwork, there are a few e-lists where
Electric Dreams people seem to congregate that might interest you. One is
dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com
Subscribe by going here and registering
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dreamchatters/
.. and another is the IASD bulletin board. Please, no dreams interpreted
here, just discussion of dreaming and dreamwork topics.
http://www.asdreams.org/subidxdiscussionsbboard.htm
Dream Hunting Season is now officially open, so put on your red caps (or
get you’re your hunting gear) and get ready. From the IASD conference at
Sonoma State University to the Drum, Dance and Dance for Peace event in
Washington DC to the 2nd International Conference of Nordic and North
European Network for the Study of Dreams, to the many channels for dream
sharing online and via IASD DreamTime radio shows and regional workshops,
lectures and other events, you are bound to bag the dream event of your
choice. If you can’t find a dream event that pleases you this season, well,
dream up one of your own and send it in.
In this issue:
Global Dreaming News editor Harry Bosma, brings you dream news and events
from around the world, online and offline. If you have dream news you want
to get out, please send those to Harry for next month’s publication at
ed-news@...
Lucy Gillis travels the virtual globe in search of lucid dreamer’s and their
stories which go into the Lucid Dream Exchange. This month she presents
David L. Kahn and his views on integration in lucid dreaming. Is it all a
matter of being conscious, of dialogue, of willingness to look at the dark
side? Kahn suggests that Integrity is the key which binds these and other
techniques together to make for an integrated personality through lucid
dreamwork. Read more about this in this month’s excerpt from the Lucid Dream
Exchange, “Integrating Lucid Dream Characters.”
David L Kahn fills in for Jean Campbell on “The View”, the monthly news and
information forum from The World Dreams Peace Bridge. The upcoming Drum,
Dance and Dream for Peace is of major focus, and regional participation is
encouraged. This event will open the Peace and Leadership Day, June 25, at
the World Children's Festival on the National Mall in Washington, DC. Read
about this and other global events in “Ebb and Flow.”
David Jenkins, PhD., the explorer of the wide, wide world of dreaming,
reports these adventures through his weekly online e-pulse, DreamPlay. This
month’s selection in EDreams is “Dreaming Writers” where David looks into
the dreams of authors, particularly Steven King via Naomi Epel’s book on the
topic. David also shows how these dreams can be used for creative
inspiration and personal growth.
Is you dream journal a literary mess of fragments, hard to read entries and
half told stories? Perhaps you need to apply your literary skills to these
stories. Check out how Stan Kulikowski II writes up his dream texts in
“F191.”
Kurt Forrer may shock you at first “If dreams are about life, about
survival, then an interpretation without the sexual facet is nothing short
of castrating the dream. “ What can this mean? Is this a return to one
dimensional sexual interpretations, or a re-reading of Freud that may bring
juice and life back into dreamwork? In Kurt Forrer’s “Sex and Sustenance in
Dreamwork” he asks “Can basic beliefs dreamers don’t know about coerce them
into actions against their better judgment?” …and finds ancient formulas
that may save the modern world.
Here is a new collection of dreams with a burning building, a meteor
striking the earth, an engulfing shroud, and floating fish. … it could only
be the dream section of the Electric Dreams! From Kat Peters-Midland.
Get your own dream published on Electric Dreams by submitting at
http://dreamgate.com/forms/dream_flow.htm
Janet Garrett archives past issues so you can search out specific articles
and authors in an easy-to-access format. These articles contain a wide range
of information for dreamers and dreamworkers. You can see her work progress
and view hundreds of article on dreams at:
http://www.improverse.com/ed-articles/index.htm
Cover by Richard Wilkerson. I have been thinking about the many “I”’s in a
dream.
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For those of you who are new to dreamwork,
be sure to stop by one of the many resources:
http://dreamgate.com/electric-dreams
http://dreamgate.com/dream/library
http://dreamunit.net/news-en/
Electric Dreams in PDF:
Back online at a new archive
Archive Courtesy of
Nick Cumbo
and the Dream of Peace Network
http://www.dreamofpeace.net.au/electric-dreams/
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Happy Hunting,
-Richard Wilkerson
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G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S
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Email all dream news to Harry Bosma at his special
ed-news@...
address.
G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S
May 2007
Email all dream news to Harry Bosma at his special
ed-news@...
address.
Online:
- Dream Video Picks of the Month
- Lucid Dreaming Experiment at Dreamschool
- Toko-pa Turner's Dreamspeak Column
- Dream Journals on the Net
Physical world:
- IASD News: Annual Conference and Radio Show
- New Mexico: Victoria Rabinowe
- UK: Dream Conference
Books, movies, research:
- Ashtiany: Interpretation of Dreams in Islamic Lands
- Researching Dream Experiences that Influence Your Life
Reminders:
- Various calenders
- Strephon Says: Podcasts and blog
- Ritual DaFuMu for Peace
* * * ONLINE * * *
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- Dream Video Picks of the Month
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Creating and sharing videos is now easier than ever before. What are
dreamers putting online? This month we have a theme of dream walks.
Silent Dream Walk - André Reis
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXqW2WoeSlg
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - Dream
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBthooCJGHk
Walking Dream : Animation - itsjelly
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzPe8uTCjQo
Have you found other dream videos, or created your own, let us know.
Richard Wilkerson
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- Lucid Dreaming Experiment at Dreamschool
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Dreamschool organizes a Global Lucid Dreaming Experiment at April 29th. The
goal is to further humanity's awareness of common Mind experiences and
stimulate dialogue and further research and development into humankind's
super-normal potential.
www.dreamschool.org/NewSite/LucidDreaming/GlobalExperiment.html
Homepage: www.dreamschool.org
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- Toko-pa Turner's Dreamspeak Column
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Toko-pa Turner started a weekly column about dreams on her blog. Find the
link to that column, a great discussion forum, workshops, dream
interpretation and more on the website.
www.herownroom.com/mainmenu.htm
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- Dream Journals on the Net
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Simon's dream log has illustrations with some of the dreams:
www.ladytrap.org/dreams/dream_log.htm
Rob Couture has his dreams tagged so you can browse by category:
http://xuriel.com
Maximilian in Dreamland, also tagged with categories:
http://maximilianindreamland.blogspot.com/
I'm especially looking for current dream journals that present drawings and
other pictures. Please email me if you know one.
Harry Bosma
ed-news@...
* * * PHYSICAL WORLD * * *
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- IASD News: Annual Conference and Radio Show
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* The Spirit Of The Dream -- June 29 To July 3, 2007 *
This is planet earth's biggest dream conference ever! Drink in the majestic
splendor of California's famous wine country while exploring your dreams.
You can now check out the full schedule (over 200 presentations!) and list
of presenters, including updated information on the pre-conference in-depth
workshops on June 29th, continuing education (CE), and special events, as
well as transportation and lodging and much more. Abstracts will come online
in the first week of May.
Register now, enter The Spirit of the Dream, and join our dream community on
the beautiful campus of Sonoma State University, in Rohnert Park, California
(in wine country, one hour north of San Francisco). Visit the IASD 2007
conference page for more information. Help IASD by sharing this link with a
friend or colleague.
http://www.asdreams.org/2007/
* Electric Dreamers Special *
Free 6 week online History of Dreams Course for any subscriber that signs up
for the 2007 IASD conference between May 1 and June 1, 2007. Just send a
copy of your IASD conference registration receipt via email to
rcwilk@... and say "Richard, I've signed up for the 2007 IASD
conference, please put me on the next DreamGate History of Dreams online
course!" Course materials are delivered twice a week for six weeks, you can
do the exercises as they arrive or save them up and do them at your own
pace. More course info at
http://dreamgate.com/class
* Dream Time Radio Show *
IASD's "Dream Time", an Internet radio program, is broadcasting each
Wednesday at 9am Pacific (Noon Eastern), the show airs with a rebroadcast 12
hours later. This series with many famous dream experts is going to end in
May.
May 2: Working in Dream Groups - Jeremy Taylor, Bob Haden
www.health.voiceamerica.com
www.dreamscience.org
The IASD website: www.asdreams.org
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- New Mexico: Victoria Rabinowe
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* May 8, 2007: Rules of the Road *
A Dreamer’s Deck of Divination Cards.
Are you exceeding the speed limit? Are you going the wrong way? Should you
be yielding to oncoming traffic? Should you be proceeding with caution? What
are the alternative routes?
* May 12, 2007: The Art of the Dream *
Exhibition and Open Studio with over 100 dream books and illustrated
journals by artist/dreamers.
Guests are invited to a hands-on exhibit of one hundred hand-crafted dream
books embellished with montage, collage, drawings and creative writings by
members of the Santa Fe Book Arts Group (B.A.G.). These intuitive and
experimental dream books have been created in response to thought provoking
universal, archetypal themes in weekly “Art of the Dream” workshops with
Victoria Rabinowe. Born out of the realm of mystery and paradox, these books
contain intriguing dreamwork that is narrative, symbolic and mythic.
* May 15, 2007: Queen of the Night *
Dreams of the Mother, In Honor of Mother’s Day
The Mother is the channel for bringing our soul to life. Like an alchemist,
she transforms our spirit into form.
* May 22, 2007: Pilgrim's Progress *
"One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the
shore for a very long time." - André Gide
* May 29, 2007: Rememberance *
In honor of Memorial Day. Bring a dream of a Dearly Departed One.
Visit the website:
http://victoriadreams.com
Victoria Rabinowe
Dreaming Arts Studio
1432 Don Gaspar, Santa Fe
505 988-1086
victoria@...
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- UK: Dream Conference
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2nd International Conference of the Nordic and North European Network for
the Study of Dreams
7 - 9th September 2007 at Bishop Grosseteste University College Lincoln,
England
The deadline for submitting presentations expired on April 27th 2007. So far
far the countries represented with presentations are the UK, USA,
Netherlands and Switzerland. Submissions from Denmark, Germany and Sweden
are also expected, but weren't received yet at the time of writing this news
item.
For more information try this direct link:
www.bishopg.ac.uk/?_id=10136&page=1
Or alternatively, find the conferences link at the homepage of the Bishop
Grosseteste University College Lincoln website:
www.bishopg.ac.uk
* * * BOOKS, MOVIES, RESEARCH * * *
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- Ashtiany: Interpretation of Dreams in Islamic Lands
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Dreaming Across Boundaries: The Interpretation of Dreams in Islamic Lands
by Serpil Bagci (Author), Olga M. Davidson (Author), Yehoshua Frenkel
(Author), Rotraud E. Hansberger (Author), Hagar Kahana-Smilansky (Author),
Jonathan G. Katz (Author), Leah Kinberg (Author), John C. Lamoreaux
(Author), Mohammad J. Mahallati (Author), Eric Ormsby (Author), Sholeh A.
Quinn (Author), Khalid Sindawi (Author), Mohsen Ashtiany (Editor)
Descriptions of dreams abound in the literatures of the Near East and North
Africa. The Prophet Muhammad endowed them with a theological dimension,
saying that after him "true dreams" would be the only channel for prophecy.
Dreams were often used to support conflicting theological and political
arguments, and the local chronicles contain many accounts of royal dreams
justifying the advent of new dynasties.
This volume explores the context of these theological speculations and
political aspirations through the medium of dreams to present fascinating
insights into the social history of the pre-modern Islamic world in all its
cultural diversity. Wider cultural exchanges are discussed through concrete
examples such as the Arabic version of the Aristotelian treatise De
divinatione per somnum. Some of the current scholarly assumptions about
dreams being merely stylized expressions of social conventions are
challenged by personal reports that express individual personalities,
self-awareness, and spiritual development.
This is the first volume of the Ilex Series on Themes and Traditions. The
series explores cross-cultural constructs without losing sight of the rich
texture of local variations of traditions or beliefs.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674021223/
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- Researching Dream Experiences that Influence Your Life
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The goal of this questionnaire is to study dream experiences that influence
your life or have a special quality in somebody's existence. The results of
this questionnaire will be presented at the annual IASD Conference, which
will be held in Sonoma, California, USA from June 28 to July 3, 2007.
Hermine Mensink works as health care psychologist and psychotherapist from
her office in Amsterdam, the Netherlands. She has been a member of the IASD
since 1994 and became a Board member in June, 2006. Professor Bierman
supervises the project. He has worked for the Dutch Institute of
Parapsychology for many years.
www.dreamresearch.nl
* * * REMINDERS * * *
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- Various calenders
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Nicole Gratton (Canada):
http://www.nicole-gratton.com/calendrier_01.htm
Robert Moss (USA):
http://mossdreams.com/xcalendar.htm
Jeremy Taylor (California):
www.jeremytaylor.com/pages/schedule.html
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- Strephon Says: Podcasts and blog
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Strephon Kaplan-Williams is an international expert on dreams and dreamwork.
Now in retirement age Strephon gives his podcasts.
http://strephonsays.com
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- Ritual DaFuMu for Peace
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The World Dreams Peace Bridge, on the 15th of each month, is holding a
monthly DaFuMu - a collective dream of good fortune - to support peace.
For more information go to:
http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/dafumumonthly.htm
To join the World Dreams Peace Bridge discussion group, just send an e-mail
to
worlddreams-subscribe@yahoogroups.com .
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An Excerpt From The Lucid Dream Exchange
Integrating Lucid Dream Characters
David L Kahn
[Lucy Gillis, Editor]
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The Lucid Dream Exchange is pleased to present a new quarterly column by
David L. Kahn. His first article for LDE, “Integrating Lucid Dream
Characters” appeared in LDE 42.
Integrating Lucid Dream Characters
(c) David L. Kahn 2007
The word Integrity conjures up images of a person in power, such as a
business or political leader who demonstrates high moral values. On a
personal level, to live with integrity is something we associate as being
honest to one's self and acting in a way that we believe is in the best
interest of others. Our dreaming mind firmly but caringly shows us that
which we deny, and in so doing guides us towards a life of integrity - if we
choose to listen. This connection between dreams and integrity can be
looked at as 1) your dreaming mind never suggests that you act in a way that
is knowingly harmful to others, 2) dreams are there to repair, never to
impair, and 3) integration of neglected or separated aspects of your
personality is an essential part of achieving your highest potential. Can
lucid dreaming be used as a means of integrating our lost or forgotten
personality traits?
The self-integration view of the word Integrity is defined by The Stanford
Encyclopedia of Philosophy as "A matter of persons integrating various parts
of their personality into a harmonious, intact whole." This type of
integration (integrity) within a lucid dream may present itself literally as
the person merging with another person, animal or object as seen in the
following example by Ralf Penderak of Badendorf, Germany.
I'm in the fields on the back of my house. I'm jumping backwards, and the
jumps are getting longer and longer. How is that? I must be dreaming!
Everything fades to grey, like so often in the moment that I become lucid.
This time I won't give in to physical awaking so easily, but I start singing
and dancing, with slowly rotating turns around my axis. After a few seconds
I see my son and my dog (a Dalmatian) standing by a small tree. At first I
don't want to go there, but then I realize that this is a good chance for
interaction. I remember that mostly everybody just disappears from dream
scene once I become lucid. So, I go there and start playing with my dog, at
first orbiting each other slowly, then faster and faster, until we are one
whirl with no more borders between us. We melt into each other in ecstasy.
When we calm down, I see my skin is now white fur with black dots. I awake
physically. Ecstasy lingers and makes my day.
Dream characters that represent aspects of your personality are an
interesting bunch. There are some that seem to prefer their privacy, but if
called upon they'll show up to perform some function. Others are ready to
be reintegrated into the "you" of the dream, no longer choosing to remain as
a separate character. After integrating an athlete you may find yourself
ready to get back into shape, or perhaps the integration of an artist sparks
an old interest in painting.
Robert Waggoner recently provided us with the following example of an
integration that occurred within his dream...
...Behind me, I see a tall slender black woman, who seems to be with us. It
seems the farm wife doesn't care to mix their food with our food. We wait.
As I sit there, I look at my brother and then at the black woman; it
suddenly occurs to me, "This is a dream." I stand up and want to know what
this means. I pick up the black woman and ask, "Who are you? Who are you?"
She looks at me, and surprises me with her response. "I am a discarded
aspect of your self." Immediately, I sense the truth of her statement and
feel the need to reintegrate her into my being. She then energetically
evaporates into me, once I accept the truth of her statement.
Lucid dreams provide us with a unique opportunity to heal by rejoining our
fragmented personality traits with the whole. Asking your dream characters
who they are or what they want should provide you with some interesting, and
perhaps unexpected, responses.
An interesting lucid dream experiment would be to see if you can integrate a
previously non-existent personality trait within the conscious "you." For
example, perhaps you have been shy for as long as you can remember and you
would like more courage. If you found a courageous dream character and
asked them to join you, what response might you get? Or, maybe you would
like to play classic rock guitar. If you invited Jimi Hendrix to become a
part of you, would your ability to understand the music improve? Of course
it may be best to simply see who shows up, trusting that they are there for
reasons that are important to the greater "you."
German gestalt psychologist and lucid dreamer Paul Tholey used his
Conciliatory Method to make peace with dream characters. He found that by
using this approach, dream characters would often transform from "lower
order to higher order creatures," thereby helping the meaning of the dream
make more sense. For example, a beast might transform into a human, and
from there the human might integrate with you as seen in Tholey's own
example...
I became lucid, while being chased by a tiger, and wanted to flee. I then
pulled myself back together, stood my ground, and asked, "Who are you?" The
tiger was taken aback but transformed into my father and answered, "I am
your father and will now tell you what you are to do!" In contrast to my
earlier dreams, I did not attempt to beat him but tried to get involved in a
dialogue with him. I told him that he could not order me around. I rejected
his threats and insults. On the other hand, I had to admit that some of my
father's criticism was justified, and I decided to change my behavior
accordingly. At that moment my father became friendly, and we shook hands. I
asked him if he could help me, and he encouraged me to go my own way alone.
My father then seemed to slip into my own body, and I remained alone in the
dream.
The opposite of integration, of course, is disintegration - which is a word
that we tend to associate negatively. The Cambridge Dictionary of American
English defines disintegrate as "to become weaker or be destroyed by
breaking into smaller pieces." Would you ever want to disintegrate any
aspect of your personality? Consider this; cancer cells are part of the
physical whole of a person. In this case, the attempt to regain health is
done by disintegrating - destroying - those cells. A negative personality
trait can cause damage to the entire person, even to the detriment of that
part of the person - much like how the cancer cells inevitably destroy
themselves. The "cancerous" personality trait may even be a physical aspect
of you, such as the smoker or couch potato. These personality traits often
make their entry into your psyche at a point in your life in which some form
of defense is created to counter a real or imagined stress or danger. In
some cases they serve dutifully, but it is time they retire.
For example, guilt can be a good way to prevent further bad life choices
that are harmful to yourself or others, but when you carry guilt with you
years after the event, who does it really serve? Just as there are
personality traits that are best suited to be reintegrated into the group,
others should be voted off the island.
The trick with disintegrating personality traits is to not eliminate one
negative trait by using another. In other words, if Judgment and Anger vote
Guilt off the island, you are still only left with Judgment and Anger.
Compassion and Understanding, on the other hand, may help find Guilt an
appropriate place to take residence. The following is an example that I
used in my book, A Dream Come True, and shows the results of a fear being
disintegrated.
I am in the living room of one of my childhood homes. I hear my father
yelling very loudly. He sounds very angry and I am afraid. I try to find
him, but I don't know where he is. Now I see him. He is coming down the
hallway into the living room. He looks to be about eight feet tall. He
looks angry. I realize that this is a dream and I remember that I should
try to show him love, rather than run away or fight. I walk up to him and
hug him. He turns into my childhood dog, who I loved very much.
The disintegration appears in the dream as the scary personality trait
shrinking and reducing itself down into something small, harmless, and
loving. The result of this disintegration is transformation, and ultimately
that is the intention behind the dream.
With all of this adding and removing of personality traits, should you be
worried about the mind conducting experiments like a mad scientist mixing
ingredients with potentially disastrous results? I think not. Our dreaming
minds have earned our trust. This inner self wants only what is best for
you, in a way that is also best for others. That is what integrity is all
about.
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and lucid dream related articles and interviews. To subscribe to The Lucid
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THE VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE
Ebb and Flow
May 2007
David L. Kahn
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This past month has been a busy one for many Peace Bridge members. This
edition of the View was put together last minute due to time constraints,
but it is these kinds of busy projects that represent who we are as a group.
Drum, Dance and Dream for Peace occurs just prior to the IASD conference.
This major event is the opening ceremony for Peace and Leadership Day, June
25, at the World
Children's Festival on the National Mall in Washington. It is filling
Jean's schedule for much of the next couple of months, along with the
schedules of Valley Reed, Jeremy Seligson, who will be conducting workshops
at the event. Even if you can't get to Washington you can participate in
this global event by forming a drumming circle at home. Whether or not you
will be able to attend, I encourage everyone in our group to support this
project. Please visit www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/drumming for
information. There have been several recent changes.
You may also print flyers from the website for you to distribute.
Peace Bridge discussions and events of this past month ranged from poetry to
the Virginia Tech shootings, from organized volunteer work to more suicide
bombs. Despite the constant stream of negative news, we are busier than
ever doing what is within our ability to make a difference. Robert Waggoner,
co-editor of the Lucid Dream Exchange, describes lucid dreaming not as the
ability to control the ocean, but to take control of the ship. This same
train of thought can be seen in contributions from Peace Bridge members.
Ebb and Flow
Elk Looks Back to the Bridge:
I have watched the ships laden with gifts pitch and quake while
high seas did shutter the bounty into the deep
and those whose steady hands guided by prevailing winds into villainous
harbors
sang no more
a watcher, a twinkling star, a candle in the window
and tears a plenty given back to those high waters and even further to
the moon.
Hermine to the Bridge:
I dreamt yesterday morning I was on a ship and in the position of being the
captain on board, using my compass to know in which direction I was going
and that felt really good! It was on the ocean with big sails and for a
longer journey. The compass as a symbol gave me strong and compassionate
feelings and more self confidence.
Jody to the Bridge:
Hermine, beautiful strong dreamer: your compass gives you and us the
direction to encompass all that we experience and feel, with compassion and
courage to create a positive community future.
Ken to the Bridge:
I was in a semi lucid state and had been pondering on ancestors and how we
must all have shared ancestors if we go back far enough, and how if we
remember back far
enough we must all share the same source light of life and then a huge wave
suffused every cell in my body and swept me up into the sky, yet the sky was
like a liquid power...it was like being tumbled in a cosmic sea by a huge
wave, I felt tiny but made of it and was not sure if I would survive (looks
like I did though)..
Peace Bridge costume for Sonoma:
A number of Peace Bridge members have confirmed plans to attend at the
Sonoma conference, coming from South Korea , Minnesota , Texas , California
, Ohio , Jordan , Mexico , Virginia , Australia , Pennsylvania , and The
Netherlands.
Jean to the Bridge:
If you're not on the list, and you're planning to come to the IASD
conference, sing out :))
Jody to the bridge:
Shall we dream it, our Bridge costume?
Shall we BE a bridge?
A net?
A flock of Monarch butterflies?
Kotaro's flowers, all flower children of the world?
What do we dream together?
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Dream: F191
Stan Kulikowski II
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DATE: 1 may 2007 09:19
DREAM: F191
=( yesterday was a monday. i finally got my motorcycle back from the shop
but i do not think the repairs fixed its charging problem. when i rode it
around town, it showed signs of still getting harder to start with every
stop and the battery went on hard charging again when i got home. i did not
get out to the metal fabrication shop to pick up the metal plate i need to
repair the squirrel cage fan in my dryer. the laundry is really piling up
after two months with the washer dryer down. evening went as usual and i
got to sleep just after 01:00. )=
the meeting has been long and i am glad that it finally over. the final
formation is held and dismissed. i wait for my friend to come get me in the
parking lot. i am in my cadet uniform. everyone has left but me.
it is late afternoon.
finally i hear the loud noise of a jet aircraft and turn to see a sleek
modern aircraft taxi up to me. the cockpit canopy pops up and my friend, jr
arthur leans out and waves to climb aboard. the plane is low enough to the
ground that i can just jump up to where the foot grooves for the ladder are
recessed when the canopy is up. i climb inside.
once inside the jet, in the back copilot seat, i find the spare helmet and
put it on so i can use the intercom to talk with jr.
"are you strapped in?" i hear jr say in the helmet. "we have a long way to
go, but this should get us there rather quickly."
"i am fine." i tell him while buckling on the various safety belts over lap
and chest.
we taxi out the main gate of the air base and onto the highway.
apparently, jr does not have his pilot's license yet so we are just going to
taxi all the way to columbus which is about 50 miles away. the jet is a
little large for the roadway, but he keeps off the main interstate, using
access roads that parallel it. whenever there is a break in traffic, which
is often on the side road, he can open up the engine and we move very fast.
sometimes up to 200 miles per hour while still on the ground. in this way,
the trip to columbus slips by very quickly. i must keep my eye open for
police cars as they would stop us for going so fast, but we manage to evade
detection.
finally we arrive at our destination. jr parks the jet in a nearby parking
lot and we go into the house which is just down the street on a residential
block.
inside the house there are quite a few people already assembled. there are
many folding chairs set up and most of them are taken. the host comes up
and notices that jr is wearing his flight suit which has a lot of technical
gadgets on it and wide dark pants which flare at the sides like an
equestrian costume.
"you came in the F191?" our host asks.
"yes, it just outside. you want to see it?" he responds and the two of
them leave by the door we came in. i am left alone with a bunch of
unfamiliar people and little idea of what is going to happen. i sit to
wait.
soon the hostess comes over to me. "we do not wear rank and insignia here."
she says, indicating my civil air patrol uniform.
"i was just at another meeting and did not have time to change." i tell
her. "i as comfortable in uniform."
"well could you remove the rank and shoulder boards?" so i unpin the
colonel diamonds from my collar and unsnap the shoulder boards. i think it
looks a little weird with just the black snap buttons above my selves. some
people are a somewhat uncomfortable with my rank since i was appointed to it
when i was wing commander rather earning it in the usual way.
it is time to begin the evening activities. everyone gets up and forms two
long lines around the walls of the rooms. then we all start walking very
slowly so we tour the entire building and introduce ourselves to various
people we meet in another line moving in the opposite direction. every now
and then, someone is selected for show and tell, demonstrating some talent
or curious object they have brought.
"what did you bring?" the person behind me whispers.
"some frozen strawberries." i tell him. "you want to try some?"
when he says yes, i get out of line the next time we are in the kitchen. i
pull open the top freezer section in order to get the strawberries. each
one is frozen in its own plastic section, but first i put a small frozen
crepe in the microwave for a minute to warm it up, then put one strawberry
on it and nuke it for another minute. when it is done, i give the hot
pastry to the other person for him to eat.
several other people from the lines say they want one too, so i prepare a
few more.
it has been a long time since i have seen jr and i am worried that he left
and forgot to take me home. in the corner of one room i see that my
shoulder boards and rank insignia are still were i left them, so i get them
before they get lost.
i go outside and see that some children have gathered near the garage.
jr is there with a large plastic model of the F191. he explaining the
various features of the aircraft to them. next to him is a model of recent
military tank with a uniformed driver talking to some other children. next
to him is a helicopter with its pilot and finally another airplane, a
painted naval airplane rather like a gunship. it is not nearly as sleek as
the F191.
=( awake at 09:09. when i was a teenager i was a cadet in the civil air
patrol and did wear military uniforms like the summer khakis in this dream.
i was promoted to colonel for a year when i was a wing commander in ohio.
jr arthur is someone i know from down here in pensacola. he worked with me
in computer science and we were in a training project for the navy security
group for about ten years. i have not seen him in several years since the
project ended, but i did notice him in his bagpiper costume on a recent
pledge drive for the local PBS station. i believe he had been a pilot in
the navy but he was retired for many years when i knew him. i doubt that
there is an F191 in the air force, but it looked rather folded and flat like
stealth aircraft. it was painted mostly white with some panels a green
color. my last couple dreams have had strawberries in them. i have some out
in the garden but the berries keep getting eaten by something. i have tried
to put a scarecrow statue of an owl near them, but they still keep
disappearing.
i suppose there must be some significance in the peaceful use of fighter
aircraft as just basic transportation on common highways yet there was some
concern for avoiding police detection. needing to strip off my rank to be
sociable is a form of humiliation that seemed more reasonable at the time
than it does now. it seems that i can still do technologic interesting
things, but need to keep a low profile in doing them. )=
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stankuli@...
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=== you can't give it, can't even buy it,
| | and you just don't get it.
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Dreaming Writers
DreamRePlay
(Copyright 2007) David Jenkins, PhD
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ANNOUNCING THE 1-PROBLEM-AT-A-TIME DREAM GROUP (Berkeley, CA)
When you have a waking-life problem that you have attempted to resolve over
and over but never achieve satisfaction it's time to take a look at your
dreams.
I will be starting a new dream group in which you will work on solving one
particular waking life problem. Although my usual approach is to follow the
dreams wherever they lead, in this group you'll be using your dreams to tell
you about one specific problem (money, weight-loss, career change, sleep
improvement etc). The most difficult problems are typically much easier to
resolve when we look at them from a dream perspective. Interested? (The
group will include local and telephone meetings.) Send me an email:
davidj@....
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Dreaming Writers
In a previous column, Power Dreams, I looked at some great contributions and
inventions that happened in dreams. In this column, and future ones, I will
examine the ways in which creative people make use of their dreams. In
particular I'll look at how novelists and screenwriters, the people who spin
out stories, use their dreams.
We acknowledge novelists as creative people but the real point, from my
perspective is that we are all creative people and the creativity of dreams
is available to all of us.
This week's column is based on the book, Writers Dreaming by San Francisco
author Naomi Epel. Naomi interviewed 26 writers about the connections
between their dreams and their writing. This week, we'll look at her
interview with Stephen King, the author of many great horror stories
including Carrie and Salem's Lot. King is a master of taking our worst fears
and turning them into stories that makes your spine tingle with excitement
as well as fear. That's a lot like dream work.
This column looks at two potent ways in which King uses his dreams. The
first is how he uses a dream to give him a critical moment in a story. The
second, a more everyday kind of use, is how he treats a particular recurring
dream as a warning signal.
A Creative Use of a Dream
_It_ was King's longest novel. The story was already eight hundred pages
long when he became quite stuck and could not think of what to do with one
of his characters, Beverly.
"When I'm working I never know what the end is going to be or how things are
going to come out. I've got an idea what direction I want the story to go
in. But with It I got to a point where I couldn't see ahead any more.
"I remember going to bed one night saying, 'I've got to have an idea.'" That
night he dreamed:
I was in a junk yard, apparently I was the girl. And there were all these
discarded refrigerators in this dump. I opened one of them and there were
these things inside, hanging from the various rusty shelves. Then one of
them opened up these wings, flew out and landed on the back of my hand. I
realized it had anesthetized my hand and it was sucking my blood out.
"I woke up and I was very frightened. But I was also happy. Because then I
knew what was going to happen. I just took the dream as it was and put it in
the book."
As best as I can tell, you can read it in Chapter 17,The Death of Patrick
Hockstetter.
What Stephen has done here is incubated a dream. The dream told him, so to
speak, how to handle his waking life problem.
When you are stuck in some aspect of your life or need an answer that has
defied your rational powers, try dreaming up a solution (see Sleeping
Solutions).
If you have ever started a project and become bogged down when it was
nearing the end, check out your dreams. Of course you may not be able to use
a dream so directly (although it is not uncommon), but you will often find
answers to your needs, your questions and requests in your dreams.
What makes dream work so special is that you get answers you would never
arrive at if you applied your rational thought to the problem. King uses
that creative aspect successfully.
A Practical Nightmare
Regardless of how unpleasant they are, some bad dreams are functional. Here
is a nightmare and King's explanation of how useful it is for him.
"I don't have a lot of repetitive dreams but I do have an anxiety dream:"
I'm working very hard in a hot little room and I'm aware that there's a
madwoman in the attic and I have to finish my work. I have to get that work
done or she's going to come and get me. At some point in the dream that door
always bursts open and this hideous woman jumps out with a scalpel.
"And I wake up."
"I still have that dream when I'm backed up on my work and trying to fill
all these ridiculous commitments I've made for myself."
Nightmares can act as warning signals. They remind us, sometimes very
loudly, that we are neglecting something.
King' understands that his dream tells him that he's got to get the work
done. Otherwise he'll get scalped.
We Are All Creative People
It might seem that writers have a special relationship to dreams because
their work is creative, but each of us is creative in every dream. Dreams
start from a creative place. They tell you something in a fresh, different
way. For all of us, that different view is the key to utilizing them. The
dream - or the dream work - will indicate to you a new way of seeing your
waking life.
Writers Dreaming
Writers Dreaming is a terrific read for dream aficionados. It shows how
famous authors (Elmore Leonard, Isabel Allende, Art Speigelman, Maya
Angelou, and others) incorporate dreaming into their work. When you see how
other people use their dreams, you'll develop ideas about how you can use
your own. This is the most practical book on dreaming that's ever been
written (excerpts).
ANNOUNCEMENT
Over the coming summer months, I am going to publish this column less
frequently. Starting in May, you can expect to receive Dream of the Week
three or four times during the summer months. I'll be back to my weekly
schedule in September.
ANNOUNCING A NEW DREAM GROUP
When you have a waking-life problem that you've attempted to resolve over
and over but never achieve satisfaction it's time to take a look at your
dreams.
I will be starting a new dream group in which you will work on solving one
particular waking-life problem. Although my usual approach is to follow the
dreams wherever they lead, in this group you'll be using your dreams to tell
you about one specific problem (money, weight-loss, career change, sleep
improvement etc). The most difficult problems are typically much easier to
resolve when we look at them from a dream perspective. Interested? Send me
an email:
davidj@....
DREAM GROUPS
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in Berkeley. The nearest major cross street is Ashby and Telegraph. Please
let me know if you are coming.
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Sex and Sustenance in Dreamwork
Kurt Forrer
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“Can basic beliefs dreamers don’t know about coerce them into actions
against their better judgment?”
‘Dream Sight News’ is a site on the Internet. This month the editor, Jane
Teresa Anderson, offered some dream samples furnishing apparent evidence
that demonstrate that certain basic _beliefs_ dreamers may hold will force
them to act on them blindly with consequences that often are, in the
editor’s opinion, ‘failing to reach the goals the dreamers have set
themselves’. Such beliefs, she suggests, take root in our unconscious mind
often in early childhood. They often may be the result of traumatic
experiences. She then continues by saying that when it comes to “_beliefs
you don’t know about, your actions are automatic, with no chance of being
vetoed by your wiser judgment_. In the end she asks the question, “_if an
unconscious belief is not creating the results you want, how *can you change
it?*_”
There are two presumptions and one inaccuracy in what the author is saying
in all this. I have printed these three contentious points that need to be
questioned in bold letters. (Astericks)
I want to begin this questioning with the inaccuracy. When you check
the word _belief_ in the Collins’ dictionary for instance, you find that it
is defined in this way: “1. a principle, idea, etc., accepted as true or
real, esp. without positive proof”. I have written the word ‘_accepted_’ in
italics (_ underline_) in order to highlight the fact that belief hinges
upon this very word. It hinges on it because ‘acceptance’ is an
indispensable prerequisite of a belief. Put another way we can only say that
we believe something if we are *fully aware of what it is about*. It is
therefore by definition impossible to have “*beliefs you don’t know about*”.
That being so, it is not making any sense to say, as the editor does, after
having listed the various dreams, “_Dreams reveal your unconscious
beliefs_.” Clearly, _‘unconscious beliefs_’ is a contradiction in terms.
From this follows that we must look for a term in place of ‘_belief_’ that
withstands the test of the dictionary and at the same time fulfils the
functions of ‘_unconscious motivation_’.
The two presumptions are 1. That our wisdom may be greater than the
dream’s, and 2. That we can change what the editor calls ‘unconscious
beliefs’. Since the latter is a misnomer it is perhaps best if we begin by
proposing a more appropriate term for it. We know from what has been said so
far that by this is meant a motivational force the source of which we do not
know. Because of the fact that the source of it remains hidden from our
eyes, psychology has adopted the nineteenth century concept of the
‘Unconscious’. This is wholly unfortunate since it _may_ suggest that this
realm is utterly devoid of consciousness. If that were the case, terms like
the ‘unconscious mind’ which the editor has adopted, would be sheer
nonsense, for anything that is devoid of consciousness is simply
non-existent. What psychology means to highlight here is of course the fact
that there could be something in our consciousness of which we are not
directly aware because of our focus being temporarily directed elsewhere.
‘Unaware’, being the operative word in this context, it would be more
appropriate to speak of ‘incognisance’ than of ‘unconsciousness’. Thus the
term ‘_unconscious belief_’ that forces us to act upon it blindly would best
be replaced by ‘*incognisant promptings*’.
Whether or not we can actually change such incognisant promptings by
means of ‘_dream alchemy_’, as the writer suggests, and thus replace them by
means of wiser motivations than the dream can offer, will be examined in
course of and subsequent to the discussion of the dreams the author has
listed for us. Each of those dreams hides what she has called an unconscious
belief which term I have now substituted with _incognisant promptings_.
Jim’s Dream:
“I was waiting in line to buy a theatre ticket, but people kept pushing in
front of me. Finally I got to the front, but then the ticket office closed
and I was directed to join a long queue at another counter.”
The author comments by saying that this dream reveals the belief of “my
needs are less important than other people’s.” While this summary has a
certain substance to it, it does not ring absolutely true in the context of
the dream. To be fair, she offers some alternative answers we might consider
in this case such as: “I always seem to be kept waiting”; “just when I think
I have made it, I’m right back to where I started, or worse”; “patience
doesn’t pay”; “you’ve got to be pushy to get what you want in life”.
The writer also sees this dream as an example of a possible belief
complex that might make Jim act in a similar way in similar situations. That
might well be true, but since I have no evidence of this I will have to
treat this dream like the rest on the writer’s list as a one off case. Thus
I shall confine myself to demonstrating that this dream is actually nothing
more serious than a classic example of a very common occurrence within every
relationship with a female partner.
You will wonder where I saw a possible wife or a definite female companion
in Jim’s life at the time of this dream. Dreams speak in symbols which may
be translated into associative items and parallel plots. In the present case
we detect an object that is decidedly female. It is the ticket office.
Another word for ticket office is box office. A box is a distinctly feminine
object, thus it stands for a wife or sexual partner. Under such
circumstances it is clear that the dreamer, in order to attend the show,
must first obtain the OK from that very ‘feminine office’. Without this
permission he won’t gain entrance to that nocturnal play he covets so much.
From the dreamer’s strenuous efforts to obtain this permission we may infer
that he will be equally determined in his waking hours to do the very same.
The fact that Jim is prepared to pay for the entertainment suggests that he
may even cajole his partner with some kind of present. Maybe even a ticket
to the theatre. But that does not need to be so. What is certain from the
word theatre is that he wants to perform and have his partner in on the act!
Alas, she rejects him. Perhaps she even elbows him back into his place.
Incidentally ‘many people’ in dreams need not manifest as many people in
waking, but simply as many rebuffs from one single person as in this case.
Jim’s burning libido is not allowing him to give up easily. He is given
sufficient patience to keep his hopes alive. But just as he finally gets to
the front, the ticket office closes. As I have said, a more telling word
would be box office. Yet he persists. His hormones are giving him the
patience, tenacity and humility to join a new queue. Now this is
interesting. First it is a frontal attack, now he tries to come in the back
door. How did I extract that? Well, queue is a French word for tail or butt.
So the dream with its image acrobatics manages to put him in a waiting queue
while at the same time teasing him with his partners ‘queue’. Oh God, this
is such a common bedroom scenario, what married partner could miss its
meaning? No doubt, the last words that poor Jim probably heard on the night
that followed his dream were: “I’ve got a headache”. But the rebuff could
have been quite physical, for after all his dream tells us that he was being
constantly pushed to the back. Again, the dream shows its genius for double
entendres: it says that Jim was being pushed to the back when it was really
his dearest wish to do the pushing.
The Freudian interpretation of the dream is of course not the only one.
There is also a non-sexual meaning and manifestation or indeed several of
them that are as valid as the sexual one. Indeed, from my perspective there
are invariably no less than two waking outcomes of one single dream story:
one is sexual while the other is ‘innocent’ as Freud used to put it. This
innocent version, as I have suggested, could actually have had something to
do with the intention of buying a theatre ticket or more generally, going
out for the night. But that version or versions would not be as compelling
as the sexual interpretation when it comes to demonstrating the power of
incognisant promptings. The sexual context makes it far more convincing that
there is a force at play in a dream scenario that is well outside the
dreamer’s control. It does so because it is known to all sexual beings just
how powerful their libido can be. It is for this very reason that I shall
examine all the other dreams that this writer offered for spotting the
‘unconscious beliefs’ of the dreamers from the sexual point of view,
although there is always also the non-sexual one/s.
Incidentally it would be of interest to know what Jim’s partner had dreamt
on that same night or early morning. If we had access to such a dream, we
could then obtain a truly scientific verification or falsification of my
interpretation. It would then become clear if it was really Jim’s belief
that made him fail, or if it was nature herself. Only by means of such
double checks can a dream interpretation be regarded as more scientific than
speculative.
Here I have of course speculated in the same way as Freud used to do it. But
unlike Freud I am never satisfied to leave it at that. I always seek
confirmation for my interpretation whenever possible. The questions I would
ask in this case would be: 1. “Does Jim have a wife or sexual partner? 2.
Did the wife or partner reject Jim’s advances on the day that followed the
dream?
Greta’s dream:
“I was climbing a hill and decided I wanted to go back down again, but there
were too many rocks and precipices below where I was standing. I thought
that if I walked along one of the precipices I would eventually find an easy
way down. The trouble was, even the precipice path led upwards, so in my
endeavor to find an easy way back down I just kept climbing higher and
higher. I ended up feeling stranded with no way back down.”
The writer epitomises this dream by saying it expresses the belief that
“backing down is not an option”. She has picked up the dream’s language
nicely for it ends “with no way back down”. There obviously wasn’t an option
as she writes. To me this is a splendid example that shows that we, as the
ego, want to go in one direction, while some stronger force nudges us in
another direction; in this case in the direct opposite. Put another way it
pictures the battle of wills, the will of the individual against the will of
nature in a classic manner. It does this to perfection since this inability
to surrender to the greater forces always engenders a conflict that will
leave us, as it did Greta, “feeling stranded with no way back”.
Freud would have seen in this dream a substantial sexual conflict; one that
leaves a dreamer stranded on the shores of social mores and nature’s urges.
This very imagery I have just used to describe the location of Greta’s
conflict shows that we readily project our feelings into the outside world.
The shore I had in mind is the embankment that borders on the ocean of
libidinous urges which is held in check by the ethics of social taboos. The
dream, as are poetry and everyday metaphor, is doing exactly the same thing.
While in everyday language the metaphors are often veiled to a greater or
lesser degree due to the fact that they are presented to us in a code of
sound, the dream’s metaphors loom large because of their energetic pictorial
imagery. But curiously enough it is this very intensity of expression and
often realistic imagery that prevents us from seeing the metaphor and its
meaning just as we miss the forest for trees. The important thing in Greta’s
case is to realise that the dream projects not only her feelings into the
mountainous landscape, but also some of her own anatomy.
This projection of the body and or some of its parts follows the same
principle that is called “as above so below”. Within the framework of the
dream this means that our physical body is projected into the landscape.
Twin hills out there for instance may refer to a woman’s breasts. In poetry
this is an easily recognised ‘device’, but when it comes to dreams, most of
us miss the meaning. We find such poetical projections of erotica even in
Songs of Solomon which has been modeled on the ancient Sumerian poetic cycle
of the “Sacred Marriage Rite”. Thus in Solomon 8:10 the beloved says of
herself” “I am a wall, and my breasts like towers…” In 7:7 the lover
exclaims: “This thy structure is like to a palm tree and thy breasts to
clusters of grapes.” In 7:3 he says: “Thy two breasts are like two young
roes that are twins.” And in 4:12 we get as close to dream language as is
possible: “A garden enclosed is my sister, my spouse, a spring shut up, a
fountain sealed.”
We need not call for Dr. Freud to help us see the meaning of such
projections into the landscape. Water is clearly feminine and consequently
women dream far more of water than men, so far as I can assess; after all
they are the ocean of life, they carry the amniotic fluid and thus whenever
the dream wants to feature things feminine, water will often play a part.
The womb of a woman could well be presented as an indoor swimming pool. But
that is more likely to happen when there is a pregnancy underfoot or an
impending illness of the womb because such a pool is more a reference to the
internal reproductive organs than the attached exterior anatomy. With
respect to the latter an outdoor pool is featured, a lake, the ocean or a
river, or a flood plane.
I realise that it would be far more appropriate now to deal with Nelson’s or
Bronwyn’s dreams that feature water very strongly than returning to Greta’s
mountaineering feat which is devoid of water. Indeed, her dream seems to
contradict what I have just said about women’s dreams. We shall see that it
does not. The first thing I felt about Greta’s dream was that there is no
male entity around. There is a hill, a path, rocks and precipices, but no
forms that would suggest the presence of the opposite sex. Earlier I have
suggested that hills may refer to breasts. But there is only one hill in
this dream, so it can’t mean that. This one hill, if it is a projection of
Greta’s physique, can only be Mons Veneris. Pathways, streets etc. according
to Freud are a reference to the anatomy of the vulva and so would be the
precipices. Looking down a precipice in a mountainous region engenders
vertigo and great anxiety. The higher we climb, the greater will be this
feeling. There are two kinds of anxiety: unpleasant and pleasant. The
unpleasant one is shunned as much as possible while the pleasant one is
sought fervently and frequently. Climbing a mountain clearly engenders
increased anxiety and thus Greta climbing her dream hill becomes a perfect
analogy to increased ‘anxiety’ of the libidinous kind.
But in Greta’s case things go awry. She gets herself into a situation where
climbing the hill suddenly becomes unacceptable. She wants to return. But
the forces of nature push her onwards and upwards. But because she isn’t
comfortable any more with what she had begun probably willingly, the journey
ends with her feelings of being stranded with no chance of redress.
Stranded is a telling expression. The literal meaning of ‘strand’ is the
shore of the sea, the sands and the rocks. It shows that Greta was left high
and dry on her hill climb and for this reason there are no water features in
the dream. Her erotic encounter was one of total frustration and regret. And
indeed backing down in the sense of getting out of the dilemma was no
option. Nature takes its course whether we are with her or against her.
Nelson’s dream:
“I am standing waist deep in water when I notice a shark coming towards me.
I am so terrified, I freeze. I close my eyes and hope it will go away. All
is quiet for a while and I think the shark has gone, but when I open my eyes
I see several more sharks lurking in the water.”
The writer maintains that this dream expresses the belief that “ignoring my
fears and hoping for the best works for a while and then things go from bad
to worse.”
Although this is a man’s dream, water is most prominent in it. It is there
not because it refers to the dreamer himself, but to his sexual partner. I
suggest this because if a man dreams that he is standing in water it refers
to him being sexually connected with a woman. But in this case there are
problems as is all too obvious. The water is not warm and inviting, it is
not welcoming as the dreamer would expect, on the contrary. It houses that
almost universal icon of terror, the shark. This icon is so widespread and
common that it must be seen as something of an archetype of terror. No doubt
it was because of this that “Jaws” was such a huge success that it spawned
“Jaws II”. Yet the story is still about sex, about the man wanting it, but
unable to obtain it. I can almost guarantee that this man had an almighty
‘domestic’ with his partner on the dreamday. This domestic may not have
revolved around the subject of sex explicitly, but most definitely
implicitly. When the dream says that Nelson shut his eyes hoping the shark
would go away, it simply means that he did not want to acknowledge that he
was no longer in friendly waters, but that his relationship had deteriorated
dangerously. The fact that he would possibly be in an ear-shattering row the
next day –my assertion based on personal experience after such a dream-
instead of in his partner’s loving arms is not something that he would want
to contemplate. So he closes his eyes hoping that his assessment is wrong.
He closes his eyes clinging to the hope that things will not fall on a heap,
but will get back to the way they were at the beginning of the relationship.
Alas, when he opens his eyes to the stark and unadorned reality of things,
he sees that there is little hope of improvement since the waters are
swarming with sharks. He could have dealt with one of them, but not a whole
school. _So the author of Dream Sight is quite right in her assessment that
things could only go from bad to worse_. But the reason for this is not the
fact that Nelson did not face his fears. Closing his eyes meant that he did
not want to believe that his sexual relationship was on the rocks, or more
precisely, that it would be devoured by the predators lurking in the waters.
It meant that once he was courageous enough to look the matter in the eyes
he would realise at last that forces greater than his would swallow up the
last vestiges of his sexual relationship. Nelson might stay in this
relationship for years yet, but it will never get back to where it was and
in the end the sharks will rip the bond of the two lovers to shreds.
Bronwyn’s dream:
“I am standing waist deep in water when I notice a shark coming towards me.
I am terrified but try to make friends with the shark to stop it from biting
me. I look into the eye and begin to talk and, amazingly, as I do this it
changes from a shark into a huge playful fish. We end up playing swimming
games. I am aware it is strong and powerful, but it doesn’t frighten me any
more.”
The author of Dream Sight extracts from this the belief that “when I face my
fears I overcome them”. Obviously Jim’s and Bronwyn’s dreams have much in
common. Interesting is that in both cases the dreamers stand in water up to
their waist. It means that their genitals are immersed in water thus
demonstrating that here too the dream centres on the sexual relationship of
a couple. Bronwyn is luckier than Jim for her efforts to defuse an obviously
explosive situation succeed. But was this happy outcome due to the fact that
Bronwyn ‘faced her fears’? After all Nelson too opened his eyes in the end
which could be interpreted as ‘facing his fears’. But that was to no avail.
So did Bronwyn win over her angry partner by facing her fears or because the
dream would have gone that way in any case?
To me the plot suggests the latter. Again I see in the opening
scenario of ‘the shark coming towards Bronwyn’ a sure sign of an impending
domestic upheaval. If it wasn’t a full-blown row that resulted from this
dream on the dreamday, there was at least a distinct and unmistakable threat
of one. But I go for the full-blown thing which, as it subsided, had the
typical ‘making it up’ in its train. The ‘making it up’ was of course
full-blown sex as the swimming games clearly intimate. The terror of the
shark ended up becoming a strong and powerful connection with a fish which
latter in this case firmly manifested as the partner’s penis. Fish and
fishiness are generally well recognised sexual symbols which have been
incorporated of old in the iconography of myths and religions. Isis for
instance, the Egyptian goddess as the swallower of Osiris’ penis became
Abtu, the Great Fish of the Abyss while Kali, the Indian goddess changed to
the fish-eyed Minaksi after swallowing the penis of Siva.
Karen’s dream:
“I keep having dreams involving babies aged about one year old. The
dreams are different, but it always turns out that the babies fail to thrive
after their first birthday. They become weak, or sick, or I lose sight of
them.”
The author comments like this: “Things go well for about a year, and then
they stop thriving”. This is of course absolutely correct. Babies are after
all personifications of projects, of new ventures and of new jobs. We have
many metaphors that are about babies like ‘I was left holding the baby’, or
‘don’t throw the baby out with the bath’ and so on. But here again we have
to ask if Karen fails because it is her belief that things will go awry
after one year or if there is a factor at work that has nothing to do with
belief? As you will notice I have not yet committed myself to a sexual
interpretation. If you were inclined to coerce me into such an
interpretation I would say it was possibly connected with Karen’s inability
to hold onto a partner with whom she could ‘make a baby’. She said these
baby dreams were all different. It would be most interesting to know in just
what way they presented themselves. With that sort of knowledge it might be
easier to determine whether or not this was really about failing
relationships or just about jobs or both.
Be that as it may. I would now like to look at the differences and
congruencies between author’s view of these dreams and my own. There is no
doubt that we concur totally in regard with the dream’s influence on the
waking life. In short we agree that the dream is a kind of blueprint of the
future. But the writer of the article obviously holds to the Jungian notion
that our dreams are more about reconnoitering the future than determining
it. This Jungian perspective leaves the possibility open for the dreamers to
change those dreams that threaten the goals they have set for themselves.
I am surprised that Jung never realised that he often said at the
end of an unsuccessful treatment of a patient things like: ‘The fate
depicted by the dream ran its course’. (C.G. Jung, “The Practice of
Psychotherapy” 142; Bollingen Series XX, Pantheon Books, Tran. R.F.C Hull).
Had he done so he might well have revised his view of the dream as a
prognostic tool in the medical sense and considered that it might be more
like a prophetic instrument in the Josephian sense. We shall see at the end
that Jung had an experience that must have made him change his long held
view ultimately realigning himself to the ancients who saw the dream as an
unalterable prediction of things to come.
Before coming to that I would like to quote and discuss a line from
the author’s article I have already cited at the beginning of this review.
Here it is: “when it comes to _beliefs you don’t know about, your actions
are automatic, with no chance of being vetoed by your wiser judgment_. Apart
from the word ‘belief’ this sentence might well serve as the perfect basis
to my argument that dreams cannot be changed for the ‘better’ and that our
‘wiser judgment’ is nothing more than self-deception.
There is a perfect experiment that will demonstrate this. It is
called ‘post-hypnotic suggestion’. For this a subject is put under deep
hypnosis. I would like to point out at this very juncture that true deep
hypnosis evidences REM exactly as does the dream state. Furthermore I want
to add to this that the brain frequency in the dream state produces theta
waves of 4-8 cycles per second or 4-8 Hz, which is also the case in the
state of deep hypnosis. As well as that this same frequency is also observed
when the channels are opened to intuition and past memories, including dream
memories (!) that are stored in the so called subconscious mind.
The post-hypnotic experiment is simple. After the subject has been
put under deep hypnosis he or she is told to perform a certain task at a
given time after waking up from the trance. Added to this command is
another, namely that he or she will not be able to recall what happened
during the trance state.
Thus the hypnotist might suggest to his subject that he was to get up off
his chair five minutes after waking up from the trance, go to the table and
grab the vase of flowers on it and tip it over the hypnotist. Five minutes
precisely after waking up the subject that has no memory whatever of the
given command will get up and do exactly as he was told. He will think that
his actions were his own idea. When asked why he did this strange deed he
will find several good excuses. Yet they are nothing but rationalisations.
He might say: “You looked feverish and I felt I needed to cool you down.”
Just as in the case of our dreams that prompt us to act in a certain way
although we have forgotten them upon waking and thus believe that our doings
were our own idea, he too will never know that he was prompted by an
incognisant memory.
Clearly the dream is no different to a post hypnotic command which
we will promptly execute it in much the same way as the writer of Dream
Sight suggests we as the dreamers do with regard to our ‘beliefs we don’t
know about’. It is plain to see that what she calls ‘beliefs you don’t know
about’ fits perfectly into the framework of the post-hypnotic suggestion
given to the subject with the added command that the suggestion be
forgotten.
And speaking of forgetting: do we not forget most of our dreams? How many
minutes, if we are lucky, do we remember of two hours or more of dreaming of
one night? How can we step in and profess that we know better than our
dreaming when we at best snatch a tiny fragment of countless hours of
dreaming in course of our life? Is this not like some layman remarking on
procedures of genetic engineering of which he knows no more than that there
are test tubes and Petri dishes involved? And yes, isn’t it interesting that
Freud who claimed to have cured the neuroses of many patients wrote: “The
actions we ascribe to coincidence or free choice are in reality subject to
unconscious mechanisms implying a determinism that rules both the conscious
and unconscious life absolutely.” (“Freud”, Octave Mannoni, Rohwolt’s
Monographien, August 1975, Rohwolt Taschenbuch Verlag GmbH, page 80-1; my
translation).
And no less interesting is Jung’s experience of the mysterium coniunctionis
of which he says: “I can describe the experience only as the ecstasy of a
non-temporal state in which present, past, and future are one. Everything
that happens in time had been brought together into a concrete whole.
Nothing was distributed over time; nothing could be measured by temporal
concepts. The experience might best be defined as a state of feeling, but
one that can’t be produced by imagination. How can I imagine that I exist
simultaneously the day before yesterday, today, and the day after tomorrow?
There would be things which would not yet have begun, other things which
would be indubitably present, and others again which would already be
finished and yet all this would be one.” (C.G. Jung, “Memories, Dreams,
Reflections”, 327, Collins, the Fontana Library, 9th Impression, 1971,
recorded and edited by Aniela Jaffe, translated from the German by Richard
and Clara Winston.) In view of this Jung must have changed his mind about
his understanding of the dream as a mere reconnaissance flight or medical
prognosis with possible input from the dreamer. When all exists now, how can
we add or subtract anything?
POST SCRIPT
Freud was right when he maintained that absolutely every conceivable object
and situation could be used as a stand-in for your sexual organs and their
encounters. This fact alone is massive evidence of the all-pervasiveness of
sex. But the dream has some favourites as it were, images which occur more
often than others, and so are more typical. This sort of thing is socially
conditioned. In a culture where there are no stairs people won’t dream of
going up stairs, and in a society where there are no locks and keys such as
among the natives of Australia before white man’s arrival, there will be no
dreams of locks and keys. Locks and keys however, as Freud had pointed out
one hundred years ago, occur very frequently in dreams of people of our own
culture. With regard to such regular images it pays to take notice of their
occurrence in your everyday speech. As I have said elsewhere, the dream’s
metaphors are also our waking metaphors. In fact I argue that the metaphors
in everyday speech are copied from the dream. In view of the fact that the
dream is a pregram of waking, it could hardly be any other way. The
difference between waking and dream metaphor is merely one of presentation.
While one is pictographic, or made of dream pictures, the other is abstract
sound, or acoustic code, spoken language that refers to pictorial images in
other words.
You may be aware that it was the sexual interpretation of the dream that
rent the association and friendship between Jung and Freud apart. Freud
insisted that the deeper one delved into the dream, the clearer it became
that its bedrock was pure sexuality. Jung on the other hand objected saying
that it was not justifiable to take the sexual language of dreams absolutely
concretely. Indeed, Jung believed Freud was obsessed with sex, regarding it
as something numinous. If Jung meant this to be a reproach it failed
miserably. It failed because ‘_numinous_’ really relates to something
_divine, to something mysterious, arousing religious or spiritual emotions_.
And that is precisely the way our ancient forebears, the bedrock of later
generations, saw sex.
For them it was not something that should be hidden, something to be ashamed
of and denied, but something to be venerated (this word comes from Venus and
is related to venereal), for after all it forms the basis of our earthly
existence. Indeed, if it were not for the fact that our parents and their
parents back to Adam and Eve had sexual congress, we would not be here to
discuss this.
*Survival on this planet depends first and foremost on the s-twins:
sustenance and sex. The formula is simple s + s = S: sustenance plus sex
equals Survival.* The two S’s are as inseparable as Siamese twins. Indeed if
one of them should die, the other would follow on its heels. This of course
has to be understood in the larger context of life in general where sex is
also the fertilisation of plants.
http://tinyurl.com/3b84s6
If dreams are about life, about survival, then an interpretation without the
sexual facet is nothing short of castrating the dream. Only the dual
interpretation of the dream will yield a precursor of life perpetual. Our
ancient forebears were only too conscious of this simple fact of earthly
existence. They realised that the earth by itself was like a woman without a
husband. If the earth was to be _Mother_ Earth and thus capable of bearing
and nurturing mankind and other life, impregnation was paramount. This boon
would come from the sky which was also heaven where _Father_ God was at
home. In their eyes he rode at times in the storm clouds, struck the earth
with orgasmic lightning bolts and impregnated it with gigantic ejaculations.
In Sumeria, the cradle of human civilisation, rain was not just water, but
it was also ‘strong water’ which meant semen. We need go no further to see
what our forebears did when they spoke in such terms. It is all too obvious
that they projected the human condition into their surroundings. When they
saw in the thunderstorm the same phenomenon as in sexual intercourse, they
did exactly what the dream does every night. Indeed, if we observe the dream
attentively, we will see that it constantly identifies the human body with
the body of the earth. For example it will feature twin hills when it wants
to draw attention to a woman’s breasts. A minaret or the steeple of the
church will be an unmistakable reference to the penis. On the other hand a
terrestrial cleft, a hole in the ground, a pit, a cracked rock will just as
surely point to the female genitals. And so does the door. And why not?
After all the vagina is the door into this world for most of us, the
exception being those lifted from the womb as the babe in Macbeth by
Caesarean birth.
For the ancients there was no distinction between the sacred and the
secular, between the physical body and spiritual realities. Indeed the body
was the icon for things spiritual just as the sky was the icon for heaven
beyond the sky. For our forebears the bodies of their women were no less
sacred than their temples. Indeed in the Near East all temples were modelled
on a woman’s reproductive system. The lower end of the vagina up to the
hymen was the template for the porch of the temple. The hall was fashioned
after the vagina proper, and the uterus provided the pattern for the holy of
holies, the inner sanctum. (See Allegro, ‘The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross’
page 25).
When you reflect on this you suddenly realise that as a foetus you developed
in the inner sanctum of a living temple. At the same time you realise that
modelling the temple on the vagina does not vulgarise this sacred structure,
but instead ennobles its fleshly counterpart.
It is only through the separation of the sexual from the sacred that sex
becomes something other than a divine union, something other than the two
aspects of one and the same divinity finding reunion in the heavens of
ecstasy.
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From Kurt:
"When I moved to the present domicile I was approached by one of the local
ladies who discovered that she was in possession of my dream book entitled
'DREAMS, Pre-grams of Tomorrow, a Path to a New World Perspective'. Being a
prolific dreamer she suggested that we run a dream group here. This became a
reality in May 2003. Ever since then we met on the last Sunday of the month.
We begin at 10:00 a.m. with a cup of coffee and small talk. Then from 10:30
on to midday I give a talk about a particular subject.
The last one was centered around the [article above]. We have lunch on the
premises and then, at 1:00 p.m. we have a session of interpretation of
everyone's dreams. At the beginning of these workshops I was the one who did
most of that, by today all members have become proficient and they all offer
their view of the dreams to be analysed."
My book had been published in 1991. I wrote it twenty-one years after an
experience that shook the foundation of my very existence. I could see from
then on how dreams would translate to waking experiences. One of the most
fascinating things of that experience was that I saw that the Freudian
interpretation was as valid as the Jungian one. Both interpreters have a
point, but where they both miss out is in the fact that dreams are of the
4th dimension and are able to foresee tomorrow and beyond. In my book I show
how this fact can be realised by anyone who can recall their dreams and has
sufficient diligence and stamina to follow my instructions and record their
dreams meticulously and watch for their waking manifestations.
Kurt Forrer
forrerk@...
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Here is a new collection of dreams with a burning building, a meteor
striking the earth, an engulfing shroud, and floating fish. Kat
Peers-Midland
Dream title: Getting beat up
Dream date: March-April
Dreamer name: Anonymous
Dream: One of my friends she punched me. This was during school and for some
reason the teacher wasn't there. And she started beating me up. But I didn't
do anything at all. Just blocked myself.
Dream comments: My friend and I are competitive.
Dream title: Getting pushed off
Dream date: March-April
Dreamer name: Anonymous
Dream: One night between March and April I had a dream that all of a sudden
someone pushed me off a cliff.
Dream comments: I sat up and gasped as I woke up
Dream title: Fire Rescue
Dream date: 3-23-07
Dreamer name: Wisper
Dream: I was walking down a street in NYC, (it looked like a street in
Brooklyn) with a co-worker and we were just walking and then all of the
sudden I heard screaming from kids in a Brownstone. When I looked up the
building was on fire and the kids were yelling out the window "HELP ME". The
co-worker just looked at me and then I started running up the stairs to
rescue these kids. When I reached them, I could feel the fire, smell the
smoke and it was actually burning my eyes. I took both children and ran down
the stairs. When I sat them on the porch I looked into their eyes and I
recognized them; there were 2 children I knew. Then all of the sudden the
father of the children came running out of the house and came down stairs in
his underwear sobbing and telling me he was so sorry!!! Then he embraced me
and did not want to let me go!!! Then I woke up.
Dream comments: When I woke up it was the middle of the night and the light
of Grandmother moon was on my face. I was totally wiped out from this dream.
Dream title: unknown
Dream date: 4/10/07
Dreamer name: Lilac
Dream: It was a white area with one or two desks and a couple of chairs. I
was the only person in the room. I have a boyfriend, I accidentally dropped
his ring and it kept rolling and I couldn't catch it. I finally lost it.
Dream comments: none
Dream title: unknown decision
Dream date: 14th April 07
Dreamer name: Astralwolf
Dream: I'm wearing a black monk-like robe, walking in a dark forest, where
only a few patches of light that shine through. The hood is over my head and
it shadows the top half of my face. As I’m walking, a fallen angel lands in
front of me. He seems familiar, but I can't recognize him. His mouth moves
and it looks like he's shouting, but nothing comes out of his voice. He
points behind me and I look around, a black shroud engulfs me then I wake
up.
Dream comments: everything seems to be in slow motion, from his mouth
moving, to the black shroud.
Dream title: Floating Fish
Dream date: recurring dreams in past 5 months
Dreamer name: AD
Dream text: I walk into a room, sometimes at my parent's house and sometimes
it’s at my home. It's like the front of their tank is let down like a tail
gate of a pickup truck and either one or all of them are floating in the
air..just floating!!
Dream comments: I've had this dream 10 times in the past 5 months
Dream title: none given
Dream date: none given
Dreamer name: Sal
Dream text: I was at this house and there was a butler. I was putting
bouncy balls in a closet in the basement of the house; then there was a
party at the house basement. I went into the closet and grabbed a bag of
weed out of the closet and when I turned around there was a bunch of parents
just staring at me with mean looks on their faces. I ran out of the house
and behind a shed (with a porch on it) and hid the weed. Then later some
friends and I were smoking cigars on the porch.
It switched over to me at basketball practice, and my friend was smoking a
bowl, then he passed it to me. I hit it and then I threw it and said "oh
crap man, I’m on probation. I’m going to be positive now." He said "no, its
ok I have smoked on probation too, and I was fine, so you'll be ok."
It switched over again and I was at basketball tryouts. I went into the
bathroom before tryouts and there was poop everywhere and it got on me. I
asked to use my friend’s cell phone and when I tried to make a call, the
phone didn’t work. So I was going to ask if I could use it again, but he
walked out of the bathroom too fast. So I walked out of the bathroom and
started to walk through the gym to get to the locker room. Then an evil man
and woman were setting traps to try and kill me (like burn me to death and
drown me. Somehow I kept getting away and made it to the locker room. I
told my coach that I had shit on me and I needed to call my parents to get
new clothes. He said "shit happens and no one will care, so just keep on
playing". Then BAM - people started dying everywhere; blood squirting. I
told my friend that we needed to get out of there, so we ran out of the gym,
using the back way. We ran through the school parking lot, found a car with
its door open and keys inside, so we stole it. I started driving away,
heading for the city. Then I heard this whistle from an unknown source and
I didn’t know if it had any significance.
The dream then switched over to the evil lady (who set the traps) was on a
desert road, dancing around a fire, I could see a car (like the one we were
in) driving off into the distance until it disappeared.
Dream comments: I have no idea what this dream was about.
dream_title: Black Winter
dream_date: 07/15/97
dreamer_name: JK
dream_text: A meteor had struck the earth. I was searching for my dad in
the aftermath. When I finally found him, the shockwave from the impact was
pushing me away. He was scared out of his mind, and frozen with fear. I
could see the reflection of the explosion in his eyes, glowing bright red.
In the end I couldn't reach him, and I woke up in a cold sweat...
dream_comments: This is a story of a dream I had 10 years ago. My father
was a double Vietnam Veteran who died a year later on his Birthday. I wrote
a song about that dream called 'Black Winter'. You can listen to it at this
link, or type my name in 'Google' along with the song title.
http://www.mp3.com.au/track.asp?id=141312
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