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Volume #9 Issue #9

September 2002

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C O N T E N T S

++ Editor's Notes

++ The Global Dreaming News
Events - Updates - Reviews - More
From Peggy Coats - www.DreamTree.com

++ Interview: Dream Psi Conference Host Interview:
Ed. W. Kellogg III, Ph.D.
Interview by Victoria Quinton

++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis

++ Interview: The World of Psi-Dreaming:
An Interview with Linda Lane Magallón, MBA
With Richard Wilkerson

++ Article: A Briefing on the History of Dream Psi Research
by Richard Wilkerson

++ Article: Conscious State Psi (CSP) and Dream State Psi (DSP):
A Combined Approach to Psi Exploration and Application
++ CURRENT ACTIVITIES at Baycliff Psi Seminars
++ Precognitive Dream example:
Soviet Fighter Crash
By Dale Graff

++ Article: The Lady with the Wide Brimmed Hat
By Linda Lane Magallón

++ Article : Mutual Lucid Dream Event
By E. W. Kellogg III, Ph.D.


D R E A M S S E C T I O N : Special 9-11 Dreams


D E A D L I N E :
September 18th deadline for October 2002 submissions
Please note the short month!
Topic: Nightmares.


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Editor's Notes

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Welcome to the September 2002 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to
dreams and dreaming online.

If you are new to dreams and dreaming, please join us on
dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the resources you
need. To join send an e to
dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

This issue we have a special focus on psi dreaming in preparation of the
ASD online PsiberDreaming Conference that will take place later this month
from Monday, September 23, 2002 through Sunday, October 6, 2002. You can
join the conference online and chat online with some of the world's most
renowned pioneers in the field, including Stephen LaBerge, Edward Kellogg,
Linda Magallón, Jean Campbell, Dale Graf and many others.
Register at http://www.asdreams.org/psi2002/


We are starting off this month with an interview done by Victoria Quinton,
host of the popular DreamChatters discussion list
(dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com) which she conducted with the host of the
2002 PsiberDreaming Conference Host, Ed. W. Kellogg III, Ph.D. Victoria
will give you some insights into the world of psi dreams through one of the
world's most knowledgeable researchers in the area.
You can read more of Victoria's interviews with the Psiberdreaming
presenters at
http://www.alphalink.net.au/~mermaid/psidream.htm


We also have an interview with Linda Magallón about dreams and psi. Linda
is the author of the book Mutual Dreaming and has been researching psi
dreams for many years. She also has provided one of the best resources
online for psi dream information.

For those of you who are not very familiar with psi dreaming, I have
included an essay from my course on the History of Dreams that will give
you a quick overview of the topic. If you want get the background on the
dream psi scene, be sure to read "A Briefing on the History of Dream Psi
Research."

There are some holes in my briefing, one of which is the remote seeing
research by the government, which is best covered in the article collection
by Dale Graff. Be sure to read his article updates including
"CURRENT ACTIVITIES at Baycliff Psi Seminars" and the Precognitive Dream
example: "Soviet Fighter Crash."

For an update on the most current research edge, be sure to read E. W.
Kellogg's "Mutual Lucid Dream Event." Ed Kellogg has been involved with
psi dreaming for decades and hosts the ASD Paranormal Dreaming Forum.


Lucy Gillis has provided an excerpt from the Lucid Dream Exchange on lucid
dreaming interpretation as discussed by Robert Waggoner. Read all about
this in "Interpreting Lucid Dreams: Letting the Symbols Speak."


We are delaying the regular Dream Section until next month and instead
replaying the full collection of 9-11 dreams from 2001.
The Dream Section will return next month.

Our news directory, Peggy Coats, from dreamtree.com, has gathered dreaming
news from around the world. In the Global Dreaming News you will find the
latest dream and dreamwork events, conferences, and seminars. Also you will
find research and research requests for subject, updates on your favorite
dream websites, book reviews and more. If you have news items about dreams
and dreaming for Peggy, send them to her at web@...


We don't send the cover with the e-zine, but you can view, download and
print up a copy anytime at:
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/ed-covers/



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For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to stop by one
of the many resources:
http://www.dreamtree.com
http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library

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Next Month: Annual Nightmare Issue. Deadline for articles, September 18.
Send to rcwilk@...


-Richard Wilkerson

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G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S

September 2002

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If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats,
web@.... Visit Global Dreaming News online at
http://www.dreamtree.com/


This Month's Features:

NEWS
- New Research on Black/White vs. Color Dreams
- Dream/Art Weekend offered by Kathleen Sullivan
- Autodrama and Creative Dream Re-Staging
- ASD's PsiberDreaming Conference
- Meeting Psyche: A Jungian Approach to Dreams
- Dreaming and Awakening in Paradise: Lucid Dreams Retreat
- Awakening to the Wisdom of The Dream
- Dreaming Beyond Borders
- Exploring Dream Space with Marie Volchenko
- Marin Institute for Projective Dreamwork

RESEARCH & REQUESTS
- Dreams about Islam
- Dreams that Have Inspired Wondrous Joy

WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES
- Dreams and CRC Theory

DREAM CALENDAR for September 2002


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>>> New Research on Black and White vs. Color Dreams

Do People Still Report Dreaming in Black and White? An Attempt to Replicate
a Questionnaire from 1942
In the 1940's and 1950's, many people in the United States appear to have
thought they dreamed in black and white. For example, Middleton (1942)
found 70.7% of college sophomores to report "rarely" or "never" seeing
colors in their dreams. I attempted to replicate Middleton's questionnaire
and found that students in 2001 reported much more colored dreaming than
their earlier counterparts, only 17.7% saying that they "rarely" or "never"
see colors in their dreams. Assuming that dreams themselves have not
changed over this time period, one or the other (or both) groups of
students must be profoundly mistaken about a basic feature of their dream
experiences.

Why Did We Think We Dreamed in Black and White?
In the 1950's, dream researchers commonly thought that dreams were
predominantly a black and white phenomenon, although both earlier and later
treatments of dreaming presume or assert that dreams have color. The first
half of the twentieth century saw the rise of black and white film media,
and it is likely that the emergence of the view that dreams are black and
white was connected with this change in media technology. If our opinions
about basic features of our dreams can change with changes in technology,
it seems to follow that our knowledge of the phenomenology of our own
dreams is much less secure than we might at first have thought it to be.
For more information, contact:

Eric Schwitzgebel
Department of Philosophy - 065
University of California
Riverside, CA 92521-0201
http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~eschwitz


>>> Dream/Art Weekend offered by Kathleen Sullivan
October 26 & 27, 2002
Dreams, the soul's gold, bring light to the journey of everyday life. Five
times a night dreams encourage healing of the past and provide direction
for the future, always leading to wholeness. In order to avoid the
pitfalls of mistaken literalism, the symbolic and metaphoric language of
the dream must be understood. This two-day workshop will provide the tools
necessary to clearly see the brilliance of your nightly gems. You will
focus on one or two of your dreams applying the techniques to understand
symbols and metaphors, story line and therapeutic value of these loving
messages from your unconscious. Through lecture and art activities, working
in small group and with partners, the approaches you learn will help you
understand your future dreams. Cost: $165 includes 2 continental
breakfasts, a gourmet lunch Saturday, light lunch Sunday. Hor d oeuvres
will accompany the private wine tasting and dream art reception Sunday at
2:00 PM. When: Saturday, Oct. 26 (10:00 to 4:00) and Sunday, Oct. 27 (10:00
to 2:00). Where: The beautiful Sogno Winery in Shingle Springs, CA. 3046
Ponderosa Rd. (530) 672-6968 Call Kathleen Sullivan at 831-372-8534 or
email dremwvr@... for reservations before October 10.


>>> Autodrama and Creative Dream Restaging
November 16 &17 Amersfoort Holland
Exploring the imagery of Dreams and Problem Solving with Ann Sayre Wiseman.
A way to deepen understanding of the metaphors
of the night mind. Contact: herminemensink@... or visit
www.annsayrewiseman.com


>>> Announcing ASD's First Online PsiberDreaming Conference
Join some of the world's foremost experts on the subject of Psi dreaming
for two weeks of cutting-edge papers, discussions, workshops, and chats. If
you've ever had a precognitive dream, a lucid dream, or simply an 'unusual
dream' that never quite made sense, this is the place for you. For two
weeks, from September 22, 2002 to October 6, 2002, participants worldwide
will enjoy online experiments, psiber games with prizes, chats, and
discussions on paranormal dreaming in the shared meeting space of virtual
reality. All for $25 or less for ASD members! Register before August 31st
and receive an additional $5 off conference fees. And if you don't belong
to ASD, join ASD as a new member from August 10 - October 6 and as a bonus
get a free pass to the Psiber Conference! For more information on this
historic event, go to: http://asdreams.org/psi2002/


>>> Meeting Psyche: A Jungian Approach to Dreams
In our dream life, every aspect of our personality takes its turn on the
stage that opens with sleep. Our nobler qualities and shadow side, our
aspirations and fears, our troubling fixations and undeveloped potentials
all strive to communicate their natures and purposes as they seek to find
expression within our unique selves. This course, designed for both new
and continuing students of Jungian psychology, will present and explore the
basic concepts and dynamics of a Jungian approach to dream theory and
interpretation. Participants willing to share dream material are asked to
bring clearly written copies of their dreams to class. Basic
journal-writing and image-making exercises will be
used to amplify dream material. C. G. Jung Institute, 1567 Maple Ave,
Evanston, IL 60201. Phone: 847-475-4848 or 800-697-7696. email:
jung@...
web: www.jungchicago.org


>>> Dreaming and Awakening in Paradise
A 10-day Residential Training Program in Lucid Dreaming and Tibetan Dream
Yoga with Stephen LaBerge and Friends. Kalani, Hawaii, November 1-10, 2002

Rejuvenate body and mind. Awaken to your inner life. Stop sleeping through
your dreams. Join us in exploring the boundless frontiers of the dream
world in a setting of glorious natural beauty. Nurtured by the paradisical,
dream-like environment on the sunny secluded Puna Coast of the island of
Hawaii, we will cast off our blinders, drop the shackles of our ordinary
routines, and take a fresh look at what is real and what is dream. Becoming
adept at lucid dreaming requires focused attention and practice that is
difficult to maintain during our busy lives. This retreat provides an ideal
opportunity to devote time to cultivating your lucid dreaming ability and
enhancing your mindfulness in everyday life, using the most effective
techniques and technology, derived from Tibetan dream yoga and Western
science. Although we cannot guarantee that everyone will have (and
remember) a lucid dream during the program, in past years, most
participants have done so, and all have experienced enhanced awareness of
the dreamlike nature of "reality."


The retreat includes: Ten days and nine nights of balanced fun and focus on
consciousness, dreaming and awakening at the beautiful, dream-inspiring
Kalani Oceanside Retreat Center on the Big Island of Hawaii; Daily group
and individual exercises in developing lucid dreaming skills and enhancing
consciousness, dreaming and waking; Valuable insight into the application
of lucidity and mindfulness to all aspects of life; sleep schedule
(including naps) optimized for the promotion of lucid dreams; Use of lucid
dream induction technology; Discussion sessions and personal guidance by
Dr. Stephen LaBerge, world-renowned expert on lucid dreaming; and dreams,
dreams, and more dreams!


FEES: Standard rate, US$2000, includes room and board. Space is extremely
limited; a non-refundable deposit of US$200 will reserve you a place in the
program until September 15, when the balance is due. SCHOLARSHIPS:
Contingent upon space availability, we plan to offer several scholarships
providing reduced fees, as determined by demonstrated financial need and
merit. If you would like to attend this program, but feel the cost is
beyond your means, fill out the form
at http://www.lucidity.com/DAAK02/scholarship.html FOR INFORMATION OR TO
REGISTER http://www.lucidity.com/DAAK02 CALL: +1 650 321-9969 or 1 800 GO
LUCID (1 800 465-8243)EMAIL: daak02f@...

>>> Awakening to the Wisdom of the Dream: November 2, Atlanta, GA.
Learn to use your dreams for a deeper self-understanding, leading to
greater life fulfillment. Explore the use of dreams throughout history.
Examine creativity and problem solving through dreams. Discover how dreams
can be used for health, healing, personal growth and as a guide through
life's passages. Presenters include Deirdre Barrett, Robert Van de Castle,
Rita Dwyer and Justina Lasley. Light lunch included. Cost: $80 general
public/ $65 ASD members. Registration: www.emory.edu/eve. after Sept. 6.
For further info, contact Justina at P.O.Box 52323, Atlanta, GA, 30355,
E-mail drmkpr@... or Tallulah Lyons, 3082 Old Cabin Lane, Smyrna, GA
30080, e-mail blyons@...( 9:30 AM-4:30PM)

>>> Dreaming Beyond Borders:Transformative Power Of Dreams
November 2 & 3, 2002, Orinda, California A Conference from the Association
for the Study of Dreams Co-sponsored with the Dream Studies Program at John
F. Kennedy University. The presenters include: Emily Anderson, Greg Bogart,
Fariba Bogzaran, Kelly Bulkeley, Chuck and Shirl Coburn, Gayle Delaney,
Daniel Deslauriers, Loma Flowers, Patricia Garfield, Ray Greenleaf, Ken
Kelzer, Dave Pleasant, Alan Siegel, David Skibbens, Steve Smith, Jeremy
Taylor and more to be announced!
Some of the planned presentations include: Dream Charms from around the
World, Private Dreams and Public Nightmares: the Case of September 11,
Dream Interviewing, Therapeutic Dream Work: A Case Study, Extraordinary
Dreams: Transparent Boundaries between Waking and Dreaming, How To Have A
Flying Dream, Fun in the Dark: Dream Work as a Popular Movement and
Professional Practice, Dreaming the Dawn: Practical Implications of
Projective Dream Work as a Spiritual Discipline. For more information,
contact the ASD Information Office at 925-258-1822 or Dream Studies Program
at JFKU at 925/258-7322.Registration fees for the two-day conference are:
One-day registration for either Saturday, November 2 or Sunday, November 3
is $125/$100 General/ASD Member and $75/$60 Student/ASD Student Member.
Registration fees for the full weekend conference are $225/$180 General/ASD
Member and $135/$110 Student/ASD Student Member. Several of the
presentations/workshops are planned for Continuing Education credit with
Sunday, November 3 being slated primarily as the "CE" day.


>>> Exploring Dream Space with Maria Volchenko, Ph.D.
Saturday and Sunday, September 7-8, 2002, 10 a.m. to 5 p.m.
3220 Sacramento, upper floor, San Francisco. Parking on the first floor.
Please, register early by sending a check of Eighty Dollars ($80), written
to Ruth-Inge Heinze, to 2321 Russell St. #3C, Berkeley, CA 94705-1959. For
information, phone (510) 849-2791 or e-mail RIHeinze@...

>>>Marin Institute for Projective Dream Work
Dream Work Certificate Program. The program features weekend work in San
Rafael, CA with Jeremy Taylor; pay as you go; take as long as you need; and
small groups. "Projective dream work assumes that thoughts we have about
the dreams of others reflect our own internal lives. When we comment on
someone else's dream we're really saying `if it were my dream....'" (Jeremy
Taylor). For more information, visit http://www.jeremytaylor.com/marin.htm


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>>> Dream Survey : Are you having dreams about Islam?
http://dreamgate.com/dreamsofislam/

We are two Western Muslims, a British educator and an American writer, who
are interested both in how dreams relate to the spiritual life, and in how
Islam is presently perceived by Muslims and non-Muslims both in the west
and in traditionally Muslim lands. We hope to collaborate on a book with
the provisional title of Dreams of Islam. We are looking for striking or
significant dreams about Islam from both Muslims and non-Muslims, dreams
which have had a strong impact on you the dreamer, whether or not you think
the content would seem "interesting" to an outsider. The Islamic content
could refer to people, events, places, beliefs, practices, symbols,
memories or associations, architecture, works of art, written or spoken
words - anything specifically Islamic, or with an Islamic flavor.

You can fill out the survey at the website, or download the questions:
http://dreamgate.com/dreamsofislam/ . For more information, contact Charles
Upton : E-mail uptonjenny@...


>>> Dreams that Have Inspired Wondrous Joy
I am gathering descriptions of dreams by a dream conversation, an
awe-inspiring setting, a melody, a beautiful painting, or a joyful
encounter with an animal. Your dream may have inspired wondrous joy through
a delicious taste, a soul-energizing touch, a scent that overwhelms you
with delight, a sound that soothes ... a color that enchants you ... Fully
describe your own and others' feelings during the dream. Please include
permission to use your dream descriptions in my research and writing
projects. I also need your age, gender, race, nationality, and if possible,
the background events and feelings that preceded your inspiring dream. I
don't need your name and identifying information will be changed to ensure
anonymity. One of the additional purposes of this research is to provide a
source of inspiring dream images fro artists, writers, musicians, dancers,
etc. Contact: Karen Boileau
dreamofjoy@... . Karen F. Boileau, M.Ed., is a writer, community
education instructor, dream counselor, and workshop facilitator. Karen has
written several workbooks for her dream workshops and courses: "Artists
Dreaming Joy"; "What Did You Dream Last Night?"; "Lose Weight Using
Right-Brain Techniques"; and, "Stress, Dreams, and Intuition."



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Do you know of interesting new websites you'd like to share with others? Or
do you have updates to existing pages? Help spread the word by using the
Electric Dreams DREAM-LINK page
www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/online97.htm. This is really a public
projects board and requires that everyone keep up his or her own link URLs
and information. Make a point to send changes to the links page to us.


>>> Dreams and CRC Theory
http://www.mediaproxy.com/crc/crc.htm

Michael Coop presents speculations on his general CRC theory
(Comprehension, Rationalisation & Conclusion, the mechanisms by
which people recognize and respond to their surroundings) using dreams and
dreaming for illustration and example.


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September 2002

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Sep 6-7 in San Rafael, CA.
"Advanced Archetypal Dream and Myth Study", a weekend seminar with Jeremy
Taylor. For more information, contact th Marin Institute for Projective
Dream Work, at 415.454.2793.

Sep 7-8 in San Francisco, CA
Exploring Dream Space with Maria Volchenko, Ph.D. For information, phone
(510) 849-2791 or e-mail RIHeinze@...

Sep 22-27 in Lenox, MA
"Dream Teacher Training", a five-day training program with Robert Moss.
Requires Completion of at least two previous depth workshops with Robert.
Pre-approval is required for registration. If you wish to enroll, please
write to Robert -Robert@... or Box 215, Troy NY 12181.

Sep 22-Oct 6, online
PsiberDreaming Conference - sponsored by ASD, two weeks of cutting-edge
papers, discussions, workshops, and chats. For more information on this
event, go to:http://asdreams.org/psi2002/




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Dream Psi Conference Host Interview: Ed. W. Kellogg III, Ph.D.
Interview by Victoria Quinton

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Victoria Quinton (V.E.Q.): Which websites that are currently online provide
some background on 'your take' on dreaming?


Ed. W. Kellogg III, Ph.D. (E.K.): I take a phenomenological approach to
dreaming, in which I try to explore and to describe dreaming experience
with a minimum of presuppositions as to its nature. This can prove far
more difficult and complicated than many might imagine The ASD website
provides the best background material on my approach, in particular
through the various papers and abstracts I've posted on ASD's Paranormal
Phenomena Forum:
http://www.asdreams.org/telepathy

with these specific links to:

"The Paranormal Phenomena FAQ"

http://www.asdreams.org/telepathy/faq_paranormal.htm

"A Mutual Lucid Dream Event"
http://www.asdreams.org/telepathy/kellogg_1997_mutual_lucid_dream_event.htm


the "ASD 2001 Dream Telepathy Contest: A Precognitive approach."
http://www.asdreams.org/telepathy/contest2001/kellogg.htm

Both of these short papers have a great deal to say about the
phenomenology of dream reality, and of dream perception. However, I deal
most directly with this question more directly in the paper titled "Lucid
Dreaming and the Phenomenological Epoché" that I presented at the ASD 2001
conference. You can read the abstract at:

http://dreamtalk.hypermart.net/2001/abstracts/2001_kellogg_01.htm

However, as far as other people's work and websites go, I particularly
recommend Ingo Swann "Superpowers of the Biomind" website at:

http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/

Ingo seems both a respected author and researcher in parapsychology, and
rigorous scientific studies under controlled laboratory conditions have
verified his own paranormal abilities on numerous occasions. In fact, he
coined the term "Remote Viewing", and in large part designed the training
protocol used successfully by the Stanford Research Institute (SRI) in the
70's and 80's. I find his views and theories on the Universe mostly
congruent with my own, and illuminating in their own right. And I've
hardly ever read anything funnier or as interesting as his serialized
Remote Viewing The Real Story on-line book:
http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/2.html



(V.E.Q.): Who is likely to be interested in ASD's forthcoming
PsiberDreaming Conference?
Would you care to provide some information about it?

(E.K.): I feel that anyone with an interest in dreaming - ranging from
beginners to experienced dreamworkers, will find the conference
entertaining, thought provoking, and educational. Not only have we lined
up some of the best known dreamworking experts in the world to present, but
we've also encouraged them to focus on the more provocative and intriguing
aspects of dreaming - "beyond the beyond". Participants will have a
chance to interact with presenters through designated discussion boards,
chats, and even e-mail. And the conference will also include workshops
that teach exotic and esoteric dreaming skills, as well as psi-dreaming
contests with prizes where participants can explore the realms of
paranormal dreaming in a guided format. 3) Have you had a life-long
interest in dreams? Yes. As a child, although I would jump out of bed on
awakening in the morning, eager to explore what the waking world held, at
night I would even more enthusiastically jump into bed to further explore
the world of
dreams. Not much has changed, except these days I no longer jump out
of bed in the morning. You see, while the waking world has lost much of
its fascination for me, the dreaming world has not! <g To date
I've recorded and indexed somewhere over 15,000 of my dreams, which must
serve as some kind of testimonial to my continuing interest.

(V.E.Q.): Do you hand-write your dreams?

(E.K.): Yes - I get better recall that way. For me, typing requires more
conscious attention on the physical level, and also requires that I get out
of bed. The less I move from the dreaming position that I awaken in, and
the less conscious attention I need to take in the transcribing process,
the better my recall for dream details.

(V.E.Q.): Have you any recurring dream animals in your dreamscapes?

(E.K.): Many. For example, I had a whole series of dreams in which a wolf
appeared, eventually changing from a hostile enemy to an ally
and friend. In the climax of the series, I actually became a werewolf in
a super lucid dream. On a more mundane level I often find my dog
appearing in my dreams, as a friend and traveling companion. Although I
see no way of confirming this, I'd feel willing to bet that in many
instances I actually dream with him, in the sense of a mutual dream, and
not of him, in a symbolic way. However, in general I find dreams in
which I become an animal much more interesting and intriguing than dreams
in which an animal simply appears.

(V.E.Q.): Do you use Active Imagination to find various of your inner
characters, Ed?

(E.K.): Not really. And this gives me a chance to point out that I do not
necessarily see all, or even most, of the entities that I encounter in
dreams as "inner" characters, in the Jungian sense of 'characters
representing aspects of my own personality or beingness'. Most of the
dream entities I encounter I simply characterize as "other" - who I
believe range from the dreamselves of other 'physical reality based
people', to beings from 'who knows where'.

(V.E.Q.): Which of the elements water, fire, air or earth feature most in
your dreams. Air - I do a lot of flying. 8) Have you ever created a work of
art based on one of your dreams? Yes, many. From computer dreamscapes, to
small statues and other dream artifacts. You can see one of my dreamscapes
on my ASD member page. I even have a few dreamscapes, including that one,
available as animations. Recent improvements and innovations in computer
graphic art software has made it much easier to effectively and accurately
reproduce the inner landscapes of dreams. The 'dreamscapes' I've created
capture scenes from my dreams with about 90% +/- 10% fidelity. I used Bryce
3D to create the general background and environmental setting, Poser 3D for
the figures, and Painter 5 to refine the basic graphic and to add all of
the finishing touches. As software packages continue to develop and
improve, it will become easier and easier for dreamers without highly
developed artistic skills to create quickly and easily "pictures worth a
thousand words". No matter how detailed, a dream report consists only of a
pattern of words, that at best still fails adequately convey the living
reality of the dream as experienced. In my experience, computer software
graphics programs can serve as a connecting bridge, through the use of
which one can recreate dreamscapes that can convey the living reality of a
dream to someone other than the dreamer.

(V.E.Q.): Can you give examples of times when you have had deliberate
mutual dreams with others?

(E.K.): I did a series of preliminary experiments (five formal target
dates) with Linda Magallón and Robert Waggoner that worked quite well, in
which we attempted to exchange randomly chosen gestures and code words. To
prevent contamination, we designed a fairly elaborate "Lucid Mutual Dream
Protocol" for reporting and communicating with each other. (You can read
about the protocol at:
http://www.asdreams.org/documents/1999_kellogg_lmdp_protocol.htm)
During those five experiments, we scored 3 exact hits (rated as the #1
choice out of 10 possible) for gestures by one lucid dreamer who apparently
encountered the target dreamer, and one exact hit (rated as the #1 choice
out of 100 possible) for a randomly chosen code word. The encounters where
dreamers reported the greatest similarity of dreamscape details happened
when two lucid dreamers (Linda M. and myself) met in dreams occurring one
hour apart or so if I recall correctly. However, the best match of all
happened spontaneously before we had fully developed the protocol, between
Robert W. and myself at a dream lagoon, at - as far as we can tell -
exactly the same clock time. Although Robert did not recall seeing me (I
had a fully lucid dream, he had an 'ordinary' dream) our descriptions - and
drawings - of the dream lagoon match each other in astonishing detail.

With thanks to Robert W:

"DreamLagoon" (EWKLagoonC.JPG)
EWK 7/2/-7/3/1998, Degree of Lucidity: Lucid to Fully Lucid
"... in a tropical setting, white sandy beach, palm trees, near a clear
body of water like a lake or lagoon. I see Robert and suggest that we go
swimming. Robert comments that he came back unexpectedly and did not bring
any trunks. I tell him he does not need them, as he has not come here
physically, but in his dream body. If he wants, he can materialize a pair.
I look at [Robert] and see he has already materialized a pair of light
turquoise blue and white patterned trunks, boxer style, with irregular
large rounded splotches of color. At this point I really wake up to the
fact that I dream also. I assume that he at least seems minimally lucid,
although he has a sort of vague look in his eyes, unlike his usual focused
and energetic expression. ... His clothing changes before my eyes, a pair
of bright blue purple pants materializes under the trunks, and his whole
outfit continues to morph until I see him dressed in a dark blue polo/golf
style shirt, light gray or tan slacks, and a dark leather belt. ...
Remembering the protocol we had so far established, I ask him for a code
word - I've picked one on the spot ("Piglet") but let him say his first. He
says "Cabbage Patch", and I wonder if he telepathically tuned into my word,
and came up with one in the same genre. I tell him my choice - "Piglet"
twice, and even spell it out for him P..I..G..L..E..T, and put it in
context - "the character from Winnie the Pooh". [Robert] does not look
particularly lucid, he has a vague look and lacks the animation I would
expect from him in a fully lucid state. I feel annoyed that this possible
lucid mutual dream follows so closely on the one two days ago, when I have
still not set up a detailed protocol. Still, I've done the best I could
with this, carefully noting details and exchanging code words.
Nevertheless, in a fit of pique I go over to a wall/rock and punch a hole
though it, rock dust flies everywhere. ... "

COMMENT: This dream occurred during the preliminary stages of developing a
lucid mutual dreaming protocol. However the communications protocol
followed at that time did conform to these basic rules: 1. All
communications between dreamers after the possible spontaneous lucid mutual
dream event occur through e-mail to insure full documentation, and; 2. That
the dreamers involved did not exchange dream reports directly, but sent
their reports, diagrams etc. to a third party, who validated them as to the
time of arrival, and who then compiled the reports and only then sent this
compilation back to the dreamers involved. Robert's dreams for that night
also included one that he had at about the same time as my dream, that
occurred on a tropical island with a lagoon with many similarities to mine.
For example, he specifically included the words "sand", "beach", and
"lagoon-like" in his report. Both of us later did graphical representations
of our apparently shared dreamscape - they show a number of remarkable
congruencies. Although Robert did not recall seeing me in his dream, he
later reported a "puff of sand type event" that occurred in his dream that
he vaguely remembers but did which he did not include in his original report.

Pictures:

http://www.alphalink.net.au/~mermaid/psidream.htm


Read two more Dream Psi Interviews at
http://www.alphalink.net.au/~mermaid/psidream.htm

Read the Interview with Linda Magallón below




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An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange

By Lucy Gillis


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In this excerpt Robert Waggoner responds to a reader's question regarding
the interpretation of lucid dreams.


Interpreting Lucid Dreams: Letting the Symbols Speak
(c) Robert Waggoner


In the last LDE, Edith raised a thought-provoking question, when she asked
if, "...customary kinds of dream analysis are appropriate or useful when
applied to lucid experiences?" So lucid dreamers, are lucid dreams open to
normal dream analysis? Or do they fall in a special category? If so, how so?


One of my early joys in lucid dreaming was asking the dream characters what
they or some dream object represented. Twenty years ago, I became lucid as
I stood in a sunny snow covered yard:


As I turned, I saw dozens of gems on the steps of the porch where my friend
Andrea stood looking down at me. Recalling my waking curiosity about dream
symbolism, I picked up one gem and called to Andrea, "What does this
represent?" She looked back at me and said with conviction, "Hope. And
consciousness." I decided to wake up and write down this response. Upon
waking, it seemed like such a wonderful concept - to become lucid and have
the dream characters explain the symbolism! No more Jungian this or
Freudian that - when lucid, you could get the symbolism straight from the
dream!


Yet, for every insight that lucid dreaming seems to bring, a dozen
questions seem to follow. A few years later, I was part of a lucid dream
correspondence group headed by Linda Magallón, and one of our monthly lucid
dream goals was to become lucid and find out what the characters represent.
So one night, I became lucid walking across the parking lot at night in a
dream:


I recalled the goal and followed a woman into a building. Once inside, I
saw a reception area with a receptionist, another woman seated in a chair
and a rather avuncular man in a three piece suit standing there, smiling. I
mentally debated whom to ask and decided on the man. I walked up to him and
said firmly, "What do you represent?" Suddenly, a voice boomed out of the
space above him, "The unrecognized characteristics!!" I thought about that
for a moment, somewhat shocked, and managed a retort, "The unrecognized
characteristics of what?!!" Again, the energetic voice boomed from above,
"The unrecognized characteristics of the Happy Giver!!" With that, I told
myself to wake up and write this down.


Two things stunned me. First, the "Voice" from above was a new development.
Instead of a dream character responding in an expected manner, something
completely unexpected had happened. Was the "Voice" my Superego? My Higher
Self? The subliminal dream producer/narrator behind the dream? And what
about all of the booming vocal energy? Moreover, what did that response
mean, "The unrecognized characteristics of the Happy Giver!" ? How was that
response associated with the portly, avuncular, smiling man in the three
piece suit with the gold watch chain?


The next day, it hit me - I understood the Voice's response, the connection
with the dream's symbolism and how it was related to this waking event from
the day before: Earlier that afternoon, I happened to meet a woman who was
involved in a charity. As we talked, I was shocked by the woman's mean
spirited insinuations about her donors' lack of generosity and dubious
motives for giving. When I walked away, I mentally mused to myself a bit
sardonically, "The lord loves a Happy Giver." - as a wry comment on this
woman who seemed such an un-happy receiver. The waking event of talking
with this woman had been the emotional highpoint of a so-so business day.
So, in some incredible way, my dream/lucid dream seemed to be making
comment on the day's "significant emotions" and was using a portly
avuncular man in a three piece suit with a gold chained watch, as the
epitome of the "Happy Giver".


Yet I wondered, what might have happened had I asked each dream character
what they represented? What about the receptionist? Would she have
displayed some symbolic aspect of "receiving" from others? And what about
the woman seated in the chair? Was she the anima, the "female aspect" of
the Happy Giver? Or did they play other roles? And what if I had ignored
them all and walked past the receptionist into the rest of the office? What
then? Would the emotional value of the Happy Giver symbolism recast itself
in these new environments, under new forms?


A wonderful aspect of lucid dreaming is that when lucid, you can simply
stop and marvel at the beauty, verisimilitude and procession of the
dreaming world around you. If curious, you can simply stop and marvel at
the process. When I have done this, I have become aware of the beautiful
associational parade of symbols around me. Lucid, I pick up that the old
green car (reminiscent of one from my childhood) should "naturally" be
parked under that type of tree and is "obviously" followed by a boy on that
old style of bicycle, which is related to that new symbol entering the
dream (a battered skateboard) and on and on, in a wondrous, interlocking
chain of associations - some expected and some not expected, some deep and
some shallow - but all seeming to make a type of associational sense that
only I, the dreamer, could ever follow or relate or explain.


Lest one leave this article thinking that "dreaming" is simply a parade of
emotionally associated symbols and that "lucid dreaming" means gaining
control over this simplistic process, then please consider this lucid dream:


I had become lucid and was having a blast taking some people through a
university setting and flying about. At one point we came upon an open
green campus space with a lovely bell tower in the distance. Lucid, I
turned to my small group and told them, "Look! At the count of three, we
will all make that bell ring! Okay?" Then, I counted "one", but as I turned
back towards the bell tower, I saw off to the right a small group assemble.
And as I counted "two", that small group suddenly seemed to have musical
instruments! And as I yelled, "Three!" expecting the bell tower to ring
wildly due to our collective willing, instead, this small group began to
play their instruments at that exact moment.


In some odd way, I had made "noise" in the lucid dream, but not in the way
my lucid intent was intending. How was it that my lucid intent was
subverted? Did some unconscious associational process come into play,
whereby a "band" is more likely to make noise than a bell tower? Did I use
an emotionally or associationally charged word in the creation of my
intentional statement, perhaps telling my group we will make "music", and
that initiated the creation of a band of music makers on the side? Whatever
the reason, this incident expressed to me that even in lucid dreams we are
largely riding the power and purpose of dreaming. When lucid, our freedom
within the dreaming has grown considerably; nevertheless, we remain within
the dreaming.


So Edith, in answer to your question, yes, "customary kinds of dream
analysis" may be valid for "some" lucid dreaming. Yet lucid dreaming has
the inherent capacity to trump "customary kinds of dream analysis" when the
lucid dreamer gets the analysis from the dream itself. Moreover,
experiments and natural experiences in lucid dreaming may more clearly show
the actual processes of symbol creation, association and meaning than any
theoretical model of dream analysis, heretofore considered. In some ways,
it is amazing that lucid dreaming and lucid dreamers have not already
developed new theories of dream symbol process and meaning, because of
their unique capacity for in situ observation and experimentation.


An excellent research opportunity for some graduate student would be an
analysis of lucid dream symbolism, immediately prior to becoming lucid and
immediately preceding the loss of lucid awareness and the return to normal
dreaming (this is fairly common in beginning lucid dreamers). In my own
lucid dreams, I finally began to notice that the dream symbolism before
lucidity and the dream post-lucidity bore symbolic commonalities, as if the
inertial direction of the dream interrupted by lucidity maintained its
course, once the lucidity had disappeared.


In larger terms, however, lucid dreaming is simply a better and more
probing tool from which to understand and comprehend the true immensity of
the dreaming process. Given the resources, lucid dreaming would show that
dreaming involves even more than symbolic restatements of inner issues,
wish fulfillments and emotional conflicts, etc. Given the resources, I feel
lucid dreaming would show actual mental processes in the unconscious and
aspects of the deeper identity upon which our puny awareness rides. Given
the resources, I feel lucid dreaming would rework our understanding of the
psyche and the collective aspects of the unconscious with which it
communicates.


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The World of Psi-Dreaming:
An Interview with Linda Lane Magallón, MBA

by Richard Wilkerson

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Linda Lane Magallón is just the person one wants to contact to find out
about dream psi. Following the Jane Roberts/Seth model of the "Dream-Art
Scientist," she has spent over two decades researching lucid, mutual,
telepathic and flying dreams. As an observer-participant type of field
researcher, she has dreamt along with the other members of her dreaming team.

Linda authored the ground-breaking book, *Mutual Dreaming* (New York:
Pocket Books, 1997). She's held telepathy experiments for magazines like
FATE and American Psychic Magazine as well as mutual dreaming projects for
Electric Dreams. To help find dreamers for her half a hundred projects and
experiments, Linda served as editor and publisher of the principal magazine
in the dream field, Dream Network, became coordinator of the Seth Dream
Network and dipped into the lucid dream community before creating the
Fly-By-Night Club research group.

With Fred Olsen, she co-founded the Bay Area Dreamworkers Group (BADG),
where she held still more interactive projects. Eventually BADG presented
her with an honorary "Doctoral Degree in Social Dreamology."

Linda was also a founding board member of the Association For the Study of
Dreams (ASD). She has presented papers and hosted dream psi panels at
several of ASD's annual conferences. In 2001, she helped design the
conference web site and created the four picture targets for the Dream
Telepathy Contest.

Her web site, Dream Flights, can be found at:
http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html
E-mail CaseyFlyer@...


[Richard] : Hi Linda. Thanks for joining us for an interview on this topic
of psi dreaming.

[Linda] : Hi Richard. Thanks for inviting me.

[Richard] : So, let's start with the definition of psi dreaming, since it
means so many different things to so many different people. Some think of
prophecies, other telepathy, and some remote seeing. What is it that ties
these various modes together under one definition?

[Linda] : The term "psi" was developed as a neutral term to mean
extrasensory perception (ESP) plus psychokinesis (PK). I mean that it is
"neutral" because it makes no presumption about the nature of these
phenomena, whether they be "normal" or "supernormal." In practice, the term
has come to mean what-can-be-verified, by experimentation and matching it
with physical existence. For the dreamer, "psi" means you can do reality
checks on your sleep experiences by comparing them with waking life or
other people's dreams.

[Richard] : Do you have any explanation on why psi dreaming occurs?

[Linda] : Like a computer hooked up to a modem, I believe that we always
have access to social dreamspace just as we always have access to the
Internet. But most dreams we're just playing with our own software on the
desktop (just having private dreams). Likewise, I believe that we always
have access to past and future (even probable universes), but most dreams
we're tuning into the present.

In other words, psi dreaming is evidence of how human perception actually
works; that we live in a wider universe than what is postulated by
scientific materialism. The real question is: why aren't folks having dream
psi experiences all the time? I think there are several reasons.

o Some people do realize when they have a dream psi experience, but if
their culture doesn't acknowledge it, they keep the fact to themselves. Or,
dream psi is not a high interest, so they don't talk about it unless
someone asks them.

o Others ignore or repress the fact because it would threaten their
cherished beliefs about how the universe is supposed to work.

o We aren't educated for 12+ years in dreams and psi, like we are for
visual, tactile and auditory information, so clues to psi can go unnoticed.
For instance, some people don't realize when they have such an experience
because the literal fact is hidden under symbols.

o People with "thin boundaries" (Ernest Hartmann's term) are more sensitive
to inner perception, feelings, emotions, imagery, etc. Those with "thin
boundaries" are more likely to let psi through, when conditions are right.

But other people don't have such experiences because they have "thick
boundaries." The subtle information carried by delicate psychic means is
drowned out by the noise of their 5 senses, and they are more focused
towards physical reality than they are towards inner space. They're not as
likely to recall regular dreams and, unless the information is emotionally
very "loud" (like a nightmare), they won't recall psi dreams either.

[Richard] : I'd like to ask you about the projects at Maimonides. It
appears that the most extensive research on dreams and parapsychological
occurrences come from the decade of studies conducted at the Maimonides
Medical Center in Brooklyn. The fifty-plus published articles summarized
both in a technical monograph (Ullman and Krippner, 1970) as well as two
editions of the popular book *Dream Telepathy* with Ullman, Krippner and
Vaughan, (1973, 1989) are quite authoritative, but now decades old. What do
you think of this research?

[Linda] : The Maimonides research was excellent in its day. Bob Van de
Castle has more to say about it in his book, *The Dreaming Mind.* Since
then, lab research has been quite limited due to lack of funding, so, for
the most part, new findings come from field research, instead.

[Richard] : Such as?

[Linda] : Such as, dream telepathy experiment is not limited to telepathic
responses. Psi can work in any of the traditionally accepted forms and
more. Nor are all dreams directed at the supposed target. Psi is a much
wider network. The dreams might connect with the "sender," with other
targets, with other participants, with friends and spouses, with other
dreams in other projects! And a psi dream doesn't necessarily show up when
you expect it. Time is slippery in the dream state.

[Richard] : In your book *Mutual Dreaming* you discuss the ways in
which two or more people may be engaged in psi dreaming. Can you talk a
little about what mutual and shared dreaming is and how this may be psychic
dreaming?

[Linda] : The most generic definition of mutual dreaming is, "Something in
my dream corresponds to something in your dream." The two classic mutual
dreams are meshing and meeting. For meshing dreams, we share themes,
emotions or symbols; or the wording of our dream reports is quite similar.

In a meeting dream event, I see you and you see me. Shared dreaming occurs
when partners go to sleep with the intent to meet in their dreams.

Some mutual dreams aren't psi experiences. They may be due to shared day
residue (we both went to the beach together, then both dreamt about it). Or
to shared psychological history (we got angry at one another and both had
burning house dreams). Or because we had the common intent to dream about
the same subject (we incubated lunar dreams and we both had dreams about
the moon).

The psi explanations include shared precognition, telepathy, clairvoyance,
empathy and so forth.

[Richard] : Are you expanding your research into lucid mutual dreaming?

[Linda] : Being a lucid dreamer myself, I've been doing lucid psi research
from the beginning. The challenge for me now is to write up what I've
discovered. I did post my "ESP in Lucid Dreams" paper and illustrations on
my web site. And I am contributing articles to *The Lucid Dream Exchange.*

Richard] : What are your recommendations for those who would like to
develop their psi dreaming talents?

[Linda] : The art of dreaming is certainly a developmental skill. To
master recall, recording, lucidity and OBEs, incubation and the like, will
support your dream psi exploration. For psi, it's not so much a case of
developing talent as it is of becoming aware of that level of perception.
Of concentrating and directing focus of attention. And of becoming aware of
your own personal dream symbols so you can decode them to discover evidence
of psi.

Participating in group projects, like ASD Psiberdreaming, will surely help!

[Richard] : Do you feel that the Association for the Study of Dreams has
contributed to the advancement of psi dreaming?

[Linda] : Yes. The upcoming Psiberdreaming Conference is one example.
Off-line, ASD features presentations on psi dreams during its annual
conference. It also holds an annual dream telepathy experiment. Nowadays,
people at a distance can participate, by sending in their dreams via
e-mail. The ASD web site has a special psi section (hosted by Ed Kellogg)
and people can ask questions and provide comments about dream psi subjects
on the Bulletin Board forum (hosted by Jean Campbell. Both Ed and Jean are
field researchers.

[Richard] : Dream psi and the Seth groups seem to be closely connected.
Many of the people in the dream psi field seem to have drawn early
inspiration and direction from Jane Robert's books and channeled writings.
What's the scoop here, what is the connection?

[Linda] : Jane Roberts' Seth has a lot of intriguing things to say about
dreams. He constantly encouraged the folks in Jane's groups to explore
their dreams as a user-friendly way to get first-hand experience of psi.
Jane herself was a prime psi dreamer-she's a good model for others to follow.

The light-hearted emphasis continued when groups gathered to read and
discuss Jane's books and to do projects and experiments in dream psi.
Nowadays, Seth groups can be found on the Internet. It certainly helps to
have like-minded fellows to support your exploration in a comparatively
unknown field. It's fun, too.

Richard] : Speaking of the Internet, has the online connection done much
for dream psi support?

[Linda] : There are some web sites with psi information, like my own. The
best interactive opportunities are the news groups like alt.dreams.lucid
(hosted by Janice Brooks), and the SethWorks group.

[Richard] : What do you recommend as a "starter" book for those who want to
get an overview of the field of psi dreaming?

[Linda] : I recommend Loyd Auerbach's *Psychic Dreaming: A
Parapsychologist's Handbook," (New York: Warner Books, 1991) as a literary
overview. But, to tell you the truth, the best inspiration for having psi
dreams comes from reading the experiences of others like Jane or Oliver
Fox. Or from sharing with a group of psi dreamers.

[Richard] : How about a book recommendation for those who feel they have
some skills and a little knowledge in the field and want a really
challenging book?

[Linda] : How about *Mutual Dreaming*? :-) I also have an extensive list
of psi books and references on my Dream Psi web site,
http://members.aol.com/dreampsi/archive/index.html

[Richard] : Is there anything else you feel that people would benefit in
knowing about dream psi?

[Linda] : Come to the Psiberdreaming Conference! You can reach it at
http://www.asdreams.org/psi2002/
There will be several researchers sharing their knowledge and experience.
I'm posting a paper called "Oh, Rats, I'm Not a Xerox Machine! Real Results
of Dream Telepathy."

[Richard] : OK, Linda, thanks so much for sharing your views and
experience with us!

[Linda] : You're welcome, Richard.

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Also, see Linda's article below: The Lady with the Wide Brimmed Hat © 2002
Linda Lane Magallón


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A Briefing on the History of Dream Psi Research

by Richard Wilkerson

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"While awake, our view of ourselves is one in which we see and stress our
autonomy, our individuality, our discreetness. We define our own boundaries
and we try to work with them. What I'm suggesting, and which is not at all
novel, is that our dreaming self is organized along a different principle.
Our dreaming self is more concerned with our connection with *all* others."
Montague Ullman, pg 217 Dream Telepathy 2nd ed


Written records of dream prophecy and strange phenomena occurring during
dreams go back to the beginning of writing itself. (note the dream
prophecies in cuneiform and the Egyptian Deral-Madineh), and we can only
assume that extrasensory dreaming contributed to some of human kinds
earliest observations & concerns. Cicero, nearly 2000 years ago discusses
the probability of prophetic dreams. Research disappears or goes
underground then until the 18th and 19th century, due in no small part to
Christianity seeing dream interest as witchcraft.

By the late 19th Century, the London Society for Psychical Research had
formed and began documenting psychic dreaming along with other independent
researchers. Many people reported having had dreams that corresponded to an
event distant in time or space. These & other similar surveys continued
throughout the 1950's and re confirmed that people at least *felt* they
were having psi experiences in dreams.

Therapists since 1900 have been privy to the dreams of their patients and a
number of clinical studies arose. In 1953 George Devereux published
PSYCHOANALYSIS AND THE OCCULT which summaries these many clinical accounts.

Although Jung regarded spirits as only psychic complexes in his early
period, he changed his position in his later work.

When Jung was a student at Burgholzi he attended séances that centered
on a fifteen-year-old girl who channeled what Jung felt was a wiser part of
her self. Eventually the two personalities merged, which confirmed Jung s
perception that the channeled spirit was a split off autonomous complex.
But later he felt that a purely psychological explanation of psyche was
inadequate to explain the range of psi phenomena and that there was a deep
place were psyche and matter and spirit meet. This opens up the whole
question of the transpsychic reality immediately underlying the
psyche (Jung, CW * The psychological Foundations of Belief in Spirits )*

By 1929 Jung was observing dreams and related events that required a
larger viewpoint. He noticed in series of dreams of his patients that
various motifs would appear in material reality, both literally and
figuratively as if related, such as a black-clad dream figure preceding
news the next day of a death. To account for both the inner & outer
realities in a way that didn't rely on the idea of cause and effect, Jung
proposed the idea of Synchronicity. In synchronicity, events are related
by meaning and connected by the activation of an unconscious archetype with
may appear either in psyche or in material reality. The attraction of such
a theory is that is shifts our view away from the idea that psi-capacity is
simply the grasping of future, distant or mental event as an object,
furthering only our technologically minded theories. Rather it moves us
towards the idea that what is significant lies in the relationship between
the events, or in the event itself. The two viewpoints don t exclude one
another, but rather compliment each other.

Jung felt there was a need to include psi phenomena long before 1929.
One of the instances that contributed to the Freud/Jung break was around an
psychic event.

Jung and Freud were engaged in a heated argument about the occult and
paranormal, focusing on precognition. Freud was vehemently against it. A
loud crack was heard from the bookcase, which startled them. Jung said it
was an example of catalytic exteriorization phenomena, and Freud thought
this was bull. Jung predicted another noise and another crack happened,
which quite upset Freud, though did little to convince him.

Maimonides

By far the most extensive research on dreams and parapsychological
occurrences come from the decade of studies conducted at the Maimodides
Medical Center in Brooklyn. The 50+ published articles are summarized both
in a technical monograph (Ullman and Krippner, 1970) as well as two
editions of the popular book DREAM TELEPATHY with Ullman, Krippners and
Vaughn, (1973, 1989).

Ullman was the chair of the Psych Department at the Center and after some
preliminary studies with Parapsychological Foundation in 1960, the lab was
established (1962). The basic procedure was to have the participant hooked
up to an EEG and sleep in a soundproof room. After going to sleep, the
target picture was revealed, usually an art piece selected by random and
given to an agent 32 to 98 feet away (sometimes longer). When REM began,
the agent began "sending" the picture, and after 10-20 minutes the sleeper
was awakened and the dream recorded. The next morning the sleeper was shown
8-12 pictures and asked to rank them in terms of how closely they matched
the emotions of the dreams. many variations and subject combinations were
used. Some as exotic as having the 2,000 dead heads from a Grateful Dead
concert see and send the picture 45 miles away to Malcolm Bessent in the
lab. The results were significant, but it would be a very hard design to
replicate! This seemed to be the overall conclusion of the studies. Dream
psi is very elusive.

The research lab of the famous David Foulkes in Wyoming attempted to
replicate some of the experiments without results, though to this day the
story seems to be that the lab was rather hostile & unfriendly to the
"loaned" subject, Robert van De Castle and the conditions less than
favorable for psychic hits.

What are the conditions that seem to make dream psi favorable? Here
is a summary:

1. States of consciousness that interrupted normal consciousness lead to
higher psi- and the interrupted state is even higher than altered states.
2. Like a siren the results of psi become promising then can utterly fail
3. Experimental conditions that are friendly and optimistic produce higher hits
4. Subjects that get sent images can feel intruded upon -
5. State specific conditions - psychics develop skills under spacial
conditions, and the labs are not conducive to this
6. Distance between states important
7. full moon conducive to psi
8 statistically, precognitive dreams come true within a day of two
9. Decreasing the irrelevant simulation of a subject during an ESP test
increased the accessibility of psi 10. So, for psi dreaming to occur, it is
important to emphasize the role of expectation, motivation, and emotion.
For example, those who are open to a telepathic experience of a sender are
more likely to have hits than those who are uncomfortable with the thought
of having his or her dreams invaded by someone else.

Much of the research since Maimonides has been privately funded (see as an
exception the work of Dale E. Graf, a physicist and a former director of
project STARGATE, the government program that investigated remote viewing
phenomena. http://www.dalegraff.com/ ) and is usually presented at
conferences of the Association for the Study of Dreams. ASD now has a
special forum on parapsychological dreaming hosted by Ed. W. Kellogg III,
Ph.D. at http://www.asdreams.org/telepathy

Is there anything still left to be investigated, and is it worth our
efforts? In a final response to this question, I would like to quote from
Stanley Krippner:

"...I devoted ten years of my life to parapsychological research because of
a lifetime curiosity concerning the scope of human consciousness as well as
a commitment to the development of human potential. The findings about ESP
and PK, sparse though they may be, suggest that there exists in the
universe a dimension that is ignored, unacknowledged, and virtually
unexplored. This dimension of existence could teach us more than we know
about time and space. It could expand our development of intellect,
emotion, intuition, and creativity. It might even demonstrate that human
beings do not end at the boundaries of the skin, but exist as part of a
network of consciousness which connects one person to another person
distant in space and time." (Stanley Krippner_ Call of the Siren_ , pg 290)




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Conscious State Psi (CSP) and Dream State Psi (DSP):

A Combined Approach to Psi Exploration and Application

By Dale Graff

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It is well known that our psychic or extrasensory (ESP) faculties can be
active while we are in a variety of mental states including awake and
highly alert, relaxed states, dreaming and in deeper trance-like
conditions. In the awake state, we may have a hunch, a sudden impulse for
action, or experience a synchronicity. We may even have a visual, auditory
or other sensory impression that proves to be of an ESP origin. Dreams
have been known for centuries to be highly conducive for experiencing ESP,
especially of situations that have not yet occurred. Such precognitive
dreams are the most common type of psychic dream and can be experienced by
anyone. Most of the reported psychic incidents are spontaneous and
unplanned. However, with intention and perseverance, we can experience them
most anytime, while awake or especially when asleep in dreams. When we
work with this latent psychic ability that we all have, we can begin to
apply our talents to a variety of needs.

There are several terms commonly used to describe psychic phenomena. It
may be useful to review some of them to clarify what the terms mean.

1. Remote Viewing

The term, remote viewing (RV) refers to an unknown mental process that
enables us to perceive spatial or temporal information that is shielded
from our ordinary senses of sight, sound, taste, smell or touch. This is
essentially the same definition that has also been used for extrasensory
perception (ESP), a term popularized by Dr. J.B. Rhine at the Duke
University Parapsychology Laboratory in the 1930s. Remote viewing was
first used by individuals at the American Society for Psychical Research
(ASPR) in New York in the early 1970s and subsequently adapted by
physicists who were researching this phenomenon at the Stanford Research
Institute (SRI) International, Menlo Park, CA. The emphasis on viewing
resulted from the research objectives or describing concealed objects or
pictures and distant scenes. The early SRI research with distant sites
(targets) typically had a beacon person or outbound experimenter travel to
a randomly selected location. A remote viewer sequestered in a room at SRI
would then attempt while awake but relaxed, to describe that location
primarily by making sketches of the visual impressions received during the
experimental period or session. It was discovered that sketches of the
visual impressions usually correlated well with the features at the target
area. However, the remote viewer frequently misidentified them. The RV
process appeared to be more like pattern matching and was independent of
how we know or name something. This misnaming characteristic became even
more apparent when the RV targets were pictures in sealed envelopes and
there was no beacon person or target observer. This no observer protocol is
referred to as double blind protocol.


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The term, remote viewing, also had political significance. It avoided the
unnecessary and often troublesome images of psychics and clairvoyants that
popular media portrayed at that time. During the early phase of RV
research and the initial part of the STARGATE application activity, remote
viewing was achieved by setting the intention to do so and then waiting
expectantly for impressions. The emphasis was on encouragement, setting the
objective, desire or intent, patience and practice. Later in the
applications portion of the STARGATE program, certain procedures were
developed as a type of training or learning method for assisting the RV
process. The researchers at SRI did not adopt these or any other
methods. They continued with the simpler approach of setting intention as
the best method for initiating or facilitating the RV process. This
approach was successful even with individuals who had no prior psychic
experiences.

Currently, there are individuals who are making unsubstantiated claims that
method A or protocol B or something else is the only way to achieve RV, or
that it is not RV unless certain procedures (or recipes) are vigorously
followed. There is nothing in the original definition of RV that
presupposes the need for a particular approach. This over-emphasis on
procedures is probably for marketing purposes only. Some individuals
prefer such an approach, while others experience them as being too complex
and cumbersome. One size does not fit all.

Since the early RV research days, there has been an evolution in the
meaning of the term, remote viewing. Initially, the term really meant
"viewing," as in visual type data. RV practitioners now consider RV to
include all other types of sensory impressions as well, and that RV can be
for past or future situations, as in remote viewing of the future or
precognition.

As you can see, what started as a neutral term to avoid associations to
older terms such as clairvoyance, telepathy, or even precognition, has come
full circle. It was recognized early on that remote viewing was like
clairvoyance or "clear seeing," a term used over a century ago by French
investigators to describe phenomenon similar to remote viewing. But is the
term, remote viewing, the best one for describing the phenomenon? For me,
I prefer the term, psi. I do use the term remote viewing to indicate a
specific type of psi, particularly when pictures or real locations are the
targets.

2. Psi Phenomena

In the early 1940s, British researchers at the Society for Psychical
Research (SPR) in London used the symbol y, or psi, pronounced "sigh" as a
neutral way of identifying psychic phenomena and to avoid presumptions as
to what it was or how it functioned. The term psi also distanced the
researchers from unfavorable associations that were presented in the media
and brought on by some psychic practitioners. Psi has two aspects; either
informational (i.e., ESP, clairvoyance, telepathy, precognition and now
remote viewing), or energetic (i.e., mind-matter interaction or
psychokinesis).


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Psi also includes past or future (precognition) information and can occur
in any type of mental state¾awake, asleep or some other level of
consciousness. Psi, the 23rd letter of the Greek alphabet is like "X," the
unknown used in mathematical equations. Psi, therefore, represents an
unknown mental process and does not imply any explanatory or operating
concept, nor does it focus on any specific sensory data type.

My preference is to use the term psi in my own research and writings. All
parapsychological researchers and some practitioners use this term. As you
may have noted, psi frequently appears in media presentations and general
publications. I use the terms, Conscious State Psi (CSP) and Dream State
Psi (DSP) as an aid in keeping track of when psi occurs.

It is often convenient to use a specific term such as remote viewing,
clairvoyance, telepathy, or precognition depending on the situation. These
are subsets of psi and can help us understand something about the source of
psi or how it is presented to conscious or dream awareness.

3. Telepathy

In the late 1800s, researchers at the Society for Psychical Research in
London used the term telepathy, or "distant feeling," to represent
instances of when someone felt that something had happened to another at a
distant location. This term followed from the emerging understanding of
electromagnetic radiation and the telegraph. Researchers suspected that in
certain instances individuals could experience what someone distant felt
through some type of electromagnetic radiation emitted by brain
activity. Today we know through experiments with shielded rooms that
electromagnetics is not involved in how psi functions. Eventually,
telepathy became associated with any type of information that someone knew,
not only feelings or emotions. Thus, telepathy continues to be commonly
used to represent what appears to be direct mind-to-mind
contact. Telepathic connections can become known while awake and
especially during sleep while dreaming.

There is considerable experimental and experiential evidence indicating the
reality of something like telepathy. Some of the results may have been
from remote viewing or clairvoyance of the target pictures. The most
significant pioneering dream telepathy research occurred during the 1960s
at the Maimonides Medical Center in Brooklyn, New York. (See Dream
Telepathy, Ullman, Krippner, Vaughn). I have also performed independent
research that replicates these results and confirms mind-to-mind
connectivity. Some psi researchers consider telepathy to be we accessing
our knowledge of the time when we receive feedback of the psi task, and not
us accessing what someone else sees or knows. I consider both of these
views as possible. However, I lean strongly toward mind-to-other mind
contact, and not me to my future knowledge. I plan to set up experiments
later this year to explore whose mind is the source in telepathic experiments.


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Whatever or however, the evidence of telepathic information presented to us
during dreaming is very strong. During sleep we are indeed scanning our
psyche and psychic regions, and we can often wake up recalling dreams with
information that is shielded from our ordinary ways of sensing or knowing.

4. Sensing and Knowing

It may be helpful to consider the difference between sensing and knowing,
as this may help us understand various interpretations or experiences of
psi phenomena.

Sensing refers to what enters into our conscious or subliminal awareness
through our external sense organs of eyes, ears, nose, taste and touch.
However, the interpretation of our sensory inputs is something we
learn. We "know" i.e., name or give meaning to, a sensory experience only
after we associate in some way or call from memory its significance. For
example, we observe a golf ball. Unless we had prior experience by
witnessing someone hit one down a fairway, or unless someone explained its
purpose, there would be no way for us to understand or know what it
was. The part of our brain that stores the image memory of "golf ball" is
not the same as the part that connects with its meaning or
purpose. Somehow our brain mechanisms link object with meaning when we see
or think, golf ball. The words, cognition or perception are often used in
describing the results of our sensory experiences. These terms mean
knowledge gained by understanding what we see or otherwise experience.

The RV research showing a good correlation between the remote viewer's
sketch and the distant area features, and a poor correlation between what
the remote viewer thought it was, illustrates a psi process
possibility. The remote viewer may have accessed a type of sensory
information storage medium, something like a hologram that files images but
not their meaning. Such a "mind" hologram would be accessible by an
unknown mental interaction¾the psi process. Psi, including RV, experiments
have been successful even when no one knows the target (double blind
protocol). However, the psi or RV participant could not identify the
target material unless it was easily recognized and familiar. These
results suggest that such a hypothetical "mind hologram" is only
"half-a-mind" hologram. It does not contain or link with the object's or
area feature's meaning. This correlates with the left-right brain
hemisphere specialization. Our left brain hemisphere is primarily involved
in logical and linear thought, and our right brain hemisphere is primarily
involved in pattern recognition and non-linear processes.

What happens when telepathy occurs? The data gathered from experiments
and experiences demonstrates strong evidence that a direct mind-to-mind
connection can occur in either of two ways: (1) access of sensory
information only, or (2) access of the interpretation of the sensory
data. Some results from telepathy experiments with target observers
(senders) indicates that some individuals prefer, possibly subconsciously,
one of these two ways or paths but not both.

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For the sensory results, it is difficult to distinguish if the sensory data
storage part of the brain/mind was accessed or if the picture or scene
observed by the sender was accessed directly via remote viewing or
clairvoyance. Experiments with "only thought" or visualized targets have
also been successful for both sensory and interpretative (meaning)
information. This suggests that what is sensed and interpreted by someone
can become known by a psi sensitive. But maybe not both at the same
time. In my psi dream experiments when a target picture observer is
present, I have found that one dream may reveal the sensory information
such as the visual content, and a follow-on dream may reveal the picture's
meaning or context. Precognitive experiments usually indicate that sensory
visual data, its forms and colors, is perceived accurately but not its
meaning. This suggests that precognition may not involve our future
feedback, since we can see and interpret or know what we see at that future
time.

There is another aspect to telepathy that links it with
precognition. Since it is possible to detect or access someone's thoughts
about the psi target, then it also possible to access someone's intention
for future action, even if no written or pictorial material existed for
that intention. We may perceive this intention in a dream, particularly if
it was of significant consequence for others or ourselves. When the
intention is accomplished, the event would look like precognition¾that is,
we had dreamt of a future incident. Since Sept. 11, I have heard of many
accounts of precognition prior to the attack. However, I suspect that
these psi dreams were actually accessing current plans, and not a fixed
future approaching us. See InPAC on my web page for additional discussion
on this important topic. http://www.dalegraff.com

Could it be that individuals who have an easy time establishing rapport are
more prone to connecting with personal and interpretative information;
whereas those who are abstract or analytical would connect with only the
cognitive and impersonal regions or aspects of the brain/mind?

As you can see, there are many facets to consider about how psi
functions. Fortunately, uncertainties of the principles of psi do not need
to deter us from being open to psi and seeking ways in which its data can
be helpful and applied.


5. Combining Remote Viewing and Psi Dreaming

One of my independent research objectives is to discover if Conscious State
Psi (CSP), including remote viewing, and Dream State Psi (DSP), including
dream telepathy, can be synergistic. That is, can a combined conscious
state and dream state approach to the same psi task provide more or
different information than either one alone? For example, consider a psi
project where you are asked to describe a picture that someone is
observing. You may desire to access the picture directly via CSP (remote
viewing) by achieving a relaxed state to receive any cognitive impressions
that corresponds to the target.

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After sketching your impressions, you put them aside and then re-focus on
accessing the same target picture later that night in a dream. You can do
this by incubating a psi dream that presents the target picture to
you. You may explore two types of psi or telepathic dreams: (1) Set your
intention to experience a psi dream that shows the visual content of the
picture. After that occurs, (2) Set your intention to experience a psi or
telepathic dream that presents the meaning of the target picture as known
by the picture's observer. The dreams may be similar, especially if the
target picture has familiar elements. However, some aspects of the target
picture may not be familiar, and the second dream may accurately present
the picture's meaning and be very different from the first one.

After wake up, see if you can develop a composite of the conscious state RV
phase and the dream material. I think you will be surprised as to how
these two methods when combined, provide a better overall representation of
the psi objective or target.

While this example is for an experimental situation, it can be applied to
any psi task, including one that has application potential. For example,
you may have lost something. By seeking CSP and DSP information, you can
improve your chances of locating where it is. Of course, a variety of
other challenging psi projects come to mind.

Since the early definition of RV did not specify if RV occurred in an awake
or dream state, we can consider "dream RV" as a valid descriptive term,
especially when the psi target is a picture or scene. The terms we use, as
you can see, have more to do with personal preference than with absolute
knowledge of what psi is and how it functions.

When we exercise one psi mode we also help develop the other. Our psi
process is ever ready, awake or asleep. So why not explore both of them?
















CURRENT ACTIVITIES
at Baycliff Psi Seminars

By Dale Graff
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A variety of psi research and application and educational activities are
being performed at Baycliff Psi Seminars (BPS), an independent facility
located in Maryland, USA. Both Conscious State Psi (CSP) and Dream State
Psi (DSP) are examined. CSP has psi categories usually referred to as
extra sensory perception (ESP) and remote viewing (RV). DSP examines
telepathic and precognitive potential of the dream state and can include
dreams about places or areas unknown to the dreamer. The dream formats are
ordinary and lucid. Lucid dreaming is a state in which the dreamer is
aware that he or she is dreaming.

Conscious state and dream state psi investigations include experiments that
provide insight into the psi processes. Various types of psi objectives
(the psi target) indicate that different responses or perceptions relate
to how the target material is accessed and in how it enters subconscious
and conscious awareness. Distance to the psi target and the manner in
which the target is identified are major variables.

An on-going experimental series involves research colleagues located
thousands of miles from Baycliff in Europe and the USA. The target may be
observed by someone (telepathic mode), it may be unknown to anyone (double
blind protocol), or it may be selected in the future (precognition).

Some experiments include targets that are illusions. A recent experiment
with a 3-D illusion was especially interesting since the participant, 1000
miles away, could not perceive the 3-D effect in the conscious state psi
but experienced it exactly while dreaming.

Baycliff Psi Seminars plans to perform experiments to see if "intentions
only" can be reliably perceived since this has implications for sensing
terrorist plans before they are implemented.

It is anticipated that psi experiments with a variety of psi targets
including geographic areas, pictures, words, sounds, thoughts, feelings or
emotions will provide important insight into the psi process and related
phenomenology. An improved understanding of psi will help enhance
reliability and accuracy for a variety of psi applications.


Future dream state psi studies will include new user friendly sleep
physiology monitoring equipment developed by the Harvard Medical School
that can be taken home. In addition to psi investigations, BPS in
conjunction with the Rhine Research Center (RRC), Durham, NC has
facilitated intensive workshops, The Art of Psi Dreaming that focus on
developing and enhancing precognitive dream capability. These and other
BPS workshops, including ESP, Remote Viewing and Your Intuitive Nature, are
scheduled at various locations in the future. http://www.dalegraff.com

BPS has also initiated plans for an International Psi Alert Center
(InPAC). The objective is to collect and analyze suspected precognitive
impressions from anyone to see if patterns or trends can be detected that
have the potential for alert and warning notices. This work is underway
and is currently focused on anticipating, via precognitive dreams, specific
planned acts of terrorism.


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Soviet Fighter Crash

"Suddenly I am observing an airplane . . . it is small and resembles a
Russian MIG fighter. It circles near a low mountain performing several
maneuvers, loops and turns. The area has communication facilities and it
seems to be a military base with an airport. The airplane turns sharply to
the left and then to the right, angling down and flying close to or through
a low building that resembles a hangar. Suddenly it dives and crashes,
destroying the area behind the low building where many people are gathered.
They are on a stand attending a ceremony of some type. I become aware of
terrible pain from the many burning people. Some are trapped under debris.
I sense the agony of those burned or trapped who are still alive."

This was the first "airplane crash" dream since a week prior to Sept. 11.
It did not make sense, as I was sure the airplane resembled a Russian
fighter that would not be involved in any potential terrorist attack.
However, the crash seemed intentional. The plane was maneuvering too low
for any ordinary flight.

Since we were packing to leave for a week-long trip to join the U. of South
Carolina Center for Coastal Ecology sea turtle saving program, I did not
seek any follow-up dream for clarification. We would be out of touch with
the news while we were on the barrier island helping sea turtle hatchlings
reach the ocean safely.

Immediately before leaving for the island on Sunday, July 28, I happened to
see the headlines of The State, South Carolina's largest newspaper
published in Columbia, SC. It read: " 78 die at Ukraine air show." The top
of the page showed four photos of the crash: two of the diving SU -27, a
new Russian fighter plane, and two photos of the flames surrounding the
"huge crowd of spectators" after the crash. The crash, during an air show
in Lviv, Ukraine, occurred on Saturday morning, July 27.

If my dream of Thursday night relates to this accident, then it occurred at
least one day prior to the crash. on Saturday.

In the dream, I thought the plane resembled a MIG fighter, possibly a M1G -
17, not the newer SU - 27. Not sure why this misidentification occurred.
Maybe my familiarity with MIGs caused this association. I had assembled MIG
models years ago. This was only the second dream I have ever had, of tens
of thousands of dreams that featured a Russian airplane. The only other
dream with MIG airplanes occurred in 1977 and was precognitive of a Soviet
pilot defecting by flying a MIG - 25 to Japan.



Dale Graff

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The Lady with the Wide Brimmed Hat

© 2002 Linda Lane Magallón

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When psi researcher René Warcollier studied deliberate waking telepathy, he
used picture drawings as targets. He also created experiments that involved
several participants. Time after time, he found cases when the official
target and the telepathic response were barely related. Instead, one
person's response was remarkably similar to...the response of another person.

I've discovered the same effect in dream telepathy. However, dreams are not
limited a simple one-to-one correspondence. Oh, no. They are part of a much
wider network. And sometimes I've been able to get a glimpse of that net
while tracking experiment results.

In 1992, two magazines were scheduled to host my dream telepathy
experiments. One was supposed to follow the other: *American Psychic
Magazine* in April and *FATE* in June. However, *American Psychic* was
disappointed by the low turnout from its readership. So I agreed to
"re-send" the same target a couple of months later and the number of
responses did increase.

In one of those synchronicities of fate, *FATE* magazine had scheduled
their experiment for the weekend just before the second sending of the
*American Psychic* target. So I was preparing to send two targets out into
the telepathic "airwaves" during the same general period of time.
Furthermore, some people knew about both experiments and were planning to
participate in each. I fully expected some dreams to shift over and show up
on the other magazine's target dates. I'd seen such cross-connections so
many times before.

As anticipated, some dreamers did use the experiments to try out
interactive dreaming. For instance, CB reported that, a few days before the
*American Psychic* target date, she and her daughter had experienced almost
identical dream images on the same night. Based on that incident, both had
decided to dream for the experiment, although CB was by far the most
successful. But not for the *American Psychic* experiment. Her dreams
didn't resonate with it at all. It was the dreams she sent in for the
*FATE* dream telepathy experiment which showed the most correspondence to
the *American Psychic* target. Conversely, RS was trying to dream for
*American Psychic* when she "hit" the *FATE* target; HL's dreams did the same.

And it's to the *FATE* target we must turn to learn the full import of
"the lady with the wide brimmed hat." Between the two experiments, a total
of four people dreamt up that special image, beginning with Teri Reedy and
her friend Carol.

On the first *American Psychic* target date, April 4th, Teri reported the
following:

"I received (the) notice on Friday, April 3rd, and barely had time to
prepare myself for the experiment. I called my best friend and we decided
to give it a whirl. I awoke this morning feeling that I had failed to get
anything pertinent. What I did get were the words "peach blossoms" and a
visual image of a woman all dressed up in a tailored suit, wearing a wide
brimmed cream or light colored hat and she was holding a mirror or a
magnifying glass in her right hand and looking at papers, a book, or a
magazine. The lady's clothing seemed to be from the 1940's. I remember
being handed a flowering tree branch.

I called my friend and she was able to bring back much detail. I was
delighted to hear that she awoke smelling peaches!"

Teri and Carol's co-dreaming made no sense in terms of the first magazine's
target (a volleyball game). But I knew that the second experiment was
coming up, so I waited to see those results before I leapt to any conclusions.

The target I finally chose for *FATE* magazine was an old photo of myself
in my twenties. In it, I am leaning against a giant 35-mm camera, one of
the props at Universal Studios in Southern California. My arms are
partially encircling the focusing ring. My husband, Manny, is taking the
picture and his image is reflected in the curved lens.

Both metaphorically and literally, the glass lens was a mirror, magnified
in size many times. Teri's dream of the woman holding a mirror or
magnifying glass would seem to resonate with that target. But the clothing
didn't fit.

When I sent the photo out into the airways that June, I telepathically
beamed a message for folks to go "through" the lens of the camera, to make
an Alice-through-the-looking-glass trip into wonderland. Of course, when
you can see "through" a mirror to the other side, it's become a window.

This is the dream of Teri's friend, Carol:

"I had wonderful dreams that seemed to last forever. I could smell peaches
but never could see any. There was a lady with a large brimmed cream
colored spring looking hat. She was looking through a large glass. As I got
closer to her, she looked up with an expression of delight and said, "You
really should look through the windows."

"The first window I looked through was like looking out through space. The
planets and stars moved faster than I thought...As I turned away from the
window, there was another lady coming in behind me. The lady that showed me
the window was talking to the second lady saying, "Here's the window if you
wish to be in this circle." I went to the next window I liked and I could
see myself and how I had gotten this far in life and why she wanted me in
the circle...

"At the next window, it was like seeing old friends...My friend Teri, was
there and she had on a beautiful white blouse with black, pleated slacks,
and a black pearl necklace. I was to see which one should be there and I
was to pay real close attention.

"As I went back to find the lady with the hat, there were four other people
with her. I didn't know any of them and they all turned and stared at me.
The lady with the hat stepped out and asked me if I wanted to look on or
slow down one of the other ladies that was staring at me. (This other lady)
looked like she was full of fear and I remember saying to myself, 'Why is
she so fearful up here, out of the world? There is nothing to fear, but the
fear you bring with you, yourself.' The lady with the hat said, 'Not all
people have experienced your level of seeing some of the greatness you've
seen. Now that I have slowed you down, do you want to look through the last
window again?'

"I did and it was like going back 200 years with beautiful wooded areas
that were once a place of peace with a clear stream to look into."

Carol also reported this hypnogogic imagery the next morning:

"I saw a picture of a wooded area with a stream so clear that I could see
right through it. There were fruit trees along one side and the lady with
the wide brimmed hat was there. She had on a long white dress like the ones
they wore in the 1800's. Her hair was long and dark and her complexion had
no blemishes anywhere. The fruit trees were in full bloom and smelled like
peaches."

Okay, Carol and Teri had similar imagery on the same night. Mutual
dreaming. Teri and Carol picked up my telepathic message to focus on the
lens, 2 months before I sent it. Precognitive dreaming. That's just peachy.
:-) But did the two of them get the target picture? Not literally. I wasn't
wearing a tailored suit or a long white dress. Nor a hat. But they weren't
that far afield.

My friend and fellow colleague, Jill Gregory, was the third dreamer of the
bunch. She had sent notices of the experiments to both Teri and Carol. The
two sent copies of their *American Psychic* dreams back to Jill who then
forwarded them to me, along with her own dream of April 10th. Towards the
end, she dreamt:

"The scene then changed, as well as my dream body. I was myself of twenty
years ago, wearing a tan dress, carrying a wide brimmed hat and walking
along the beach with my husband."

Spontaneous telepathy most often occurs among people who know one another
well. So it's not unusual that a special symbol would be shared among three
correspondents, two of whom were friends with each other and one of whom
was a friend of mine. But it is intriguing that all three were co-dreaming
ahead of the target date.

Fast forward to the *FATE* experiment. When the dreams came in, it was
obvious that this interactive dream game had picked up a fourth player,
Shirley Richardson, who none of us knew. Shirley wrote me this note:

"The attached sketch represents a 'dream' or sort of vision that came to me
as I drifted off to sleep the night of June 17th. I don't know if it
represents your picture or someone else's (!), but it was very clear and I
awoke right after it appeared. This experience was not all like my regular
dreams, which are usually filled with lots of action in which I am
involved. In this "dream," I was not involved. I saw a young dark haired
girl, dressed in white or light pink walking slowly along a beach, much as
the representation in the sketch."

Yes, Shirley had drawn her image. It was the lady with the wide brimmed
hat. Now I had a picture to compare with the target photo. Where did that
persistent wide brimmed hat come from?

Psi and subliminal researchers have discovered that the dreaming mind is
like a kid with a coloring book. The kid-id is allowed to fill in the
picture however it wishes. But the book's lines and shapes remain the same,
no matter how creative the coloring gets. Similarly, the dream's metaphoric
imagery acts like a vine on a wooden trellis. Its organic growth meanders
around a fairly fixed framework of form and line.

In this case, the tailored suit, the blouse and slacks, the long white,
pink, tan dress were the flexible ornamentations. But there was also a
shape so stable that four people actually called it the same thing.

How does a picture's main forms become evident? Well, try squinting your
eyes and blurring your vision. At a certain point, the details go away, but
the outlines remain. This seems to be the usual focus of dreams and psi - a
little vague, but with prominent general features.

So, finally, that's what I did, squint my eyes while looking at the target
photo. As you may recall, I was leaning against a giant 35-mm camera with
my arms around the circular lens. Actually, there are several circles to be
seen: the lens, the focusing ring and the aperture selection ring. My arms
look like they are holding onto the innermost ring. My head looks like it
is resting against the outermost ring, as if it were surrounded by the
outermost ring. So what's a circular ring on the head, that extends far
beyond the size of the head? Something that can also be carried in your hands?

If you didn't know, I'd bet you'd guess that it was a hat. A light, spring
hat with a very wide brim.
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Shirley's sketch and the picture target are at
http://members.aol.com/dreamartscience/dream/hat.html

You can also find out more about the picture target if you attend the ASD
Psyberconference. Just look for my presentation, "Oh, Rats, I'm Not a Xerox
Machine!"

Linda Lane Magallón, Dream Flights
http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html





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Mutual Lucid Dream Event
© 1997 E. W. Kellogg III, Ph.D.
Published in Dream Time, 14(2), 32-34, (1997)

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"If a man could pass through Paradise in a dream, and have a flower
presented to him as a pledge that his soul had really been there, and if he
found that flower in his hand when he awoke - Ay! - and what then?" Samuel
Taylor Coleridge

In our culture, most people see dreams as just a subjective fantasy, a
personal experience that has no relation to "objective reality". Hence the
phrase "just a dream", meaning an experience that has little or no
importance in the "real" world.

Some western researchers act as if current neurophysiological theory, which
posits that dreams consist of purely subjective productions of the sleeping
brain, constitutes a fact, rather than a theory. To many experienced
dreamers, such an attitude seems both limiting and naive. Many other
cultures consider dreams to take place in a spiritual realm, just as "real"
as the physical world. Rather than confusing theories with facts, it makes
sense to adopt a phenomenological viewpoint, which gives priority to the
territory of experience. This means that we revise our maps to fit our
territories, instead of distorting our perceptions to fit our preconceptions.

What if the dream world did not seem quite so subjective and solipsistic as
that presupposed by current neurophysiological theory? What if we do
somehow connect in some way with friends and strangers while our physical
bodies sleep? What if after waking up tomorrow, you compared dreams with a
friend you had not seen in two years and found that you had both dreamed of
the other, in a way that simple coincidence could not adequately explain?
What then? Perhaps you might begin to question whether a dream really does
seem such a "fine and private place" after all.
On December 20, 1994, Harvey Grady and myself experienced such an event, in
a mutual lucid dream.

The Dreams

Ed Kellogg's Lucid Dream

"In a sort of archeological dig - in Mexico - I see people digging for
gold, peasants, in a sandy Sonoran type desert. We find huge old wagons on
the side of the road, from a circus or something, which had bones of
elephants and/or lions, etc. I go with the group - realize that I dream,
but don't know if they realize it - a sort of virtual reality field trip. I
talk with the leaders and they respond. I see [Harvey Grady], and tell him
to give me a collect call on waking up to WPR (waking physical reality), if
he recalls this dream, and to let me know if he really does participate in
a WPR tour at this time. [Harvey] looks like he just shaved off his beard.
He shows me some old airplanes in a museum, and I look forward to virtually
flying them, although I wonder what would happen to my physical body if I
crash. ...(my lucid dream continues, but I leave [Harvey] behind)."

Comment

I had my dream with [Harvey] in the early morning, probably between 5 and 8
a.m. In this dream I remained open to the possibility that the dream
[Harvey] might (or might not) exist in a consensual sense comparable to
physical reality. I therefore gave Harvey a long distance call to check for
confirmation, (after waiting a bit to see if he would call me collect as I
had instructed). I connected with his answering machine, and left a message
telling him only that I had dreamed of him the night before, and to please
get back to me. Harvey and I then played telephone tag on our respective
answering machines. I finally talked with him on the phone , carefully
avoiding questions that might "lead the witness". Harvey gave me a brief
account of his dream in which he related that he met with me, and with a
small group of people, and that we headed into a range of old mountains,
somewhat desolate and broken down, like in the Holy Land, or Nevada, or
parts of Arizona and New Mexico. At this point I confirmed that his dream
seemed very similar to mine, and asked if he had participated in an
archeological expedition (the only detail I shared from my dream), and he
said he did not recall this. I asked him to please write the dream down in
detail, which he finally did on Feb. 11, 1995.

Harvey Grady's Lucid Dream

"I remember Ed and three or four other men, whom I knew in the dream but
not in daytime, talking about an expedition to explore for probable
archeological records, then traveling to an arid desert area with
desiccated hills and twisted arroyos, where we split up to search the
surface soil for possible artifacts. We also watched for caves. We were
dressed appropriately with hats for shade, a little reminiscent of Indiana
Jones.

The land in the dream was similar to Israel hill country, or arid portions
of Arizona, Nevada, or New Mexico. We were searching for ancient artifacts,
like (from) Atlantis or Mu. I recognized that the dream dealt only with one
part of an ongoing series of the search for evidence of ancient civilizations.

In the dream, I felt that we were going through the motions of the search
in the astral plane in order to establish energetic templates for the
persons who would conduct the search on the physical plane. The energetic
templates created from our experiences would guide the search of some
physical explorers. Therefore, we went through the motions of the search
like actors playing out roles, in order to generate thoughts, emotions, and
desires for the template.

In the role of explorers, we acted as though we were ignorant and blindly
searching for something we had only slight reason to expect might be there.
On a higher level, as actors outside of the role, we knew what would
eventually be found. We were well aware of the ancient civilizations and
their contributions to history and had accepted tasks in helping reveal
them to the physical plane. This double level of awareness made the dream
more interesting to me."

Comment Unfortunately, at that time, aside from the holiday season, Harvey
also underwent an IRS audit and did not have a lot of time to spare for
dreamwork. However, because Harvey rarely dreams of me, he says that my
presence in the dream helped him to remember it when he awoke. He
experienced the dream at about 5 A.M. on December 20, 1994, but did not
write the dream down until he sent me his letter on February 11th, 1995.

Our dreams display a number of interesting congruencies

1. Harvey and I appeared in each others dreams (on the same night, at about
the same time).

2. We dealt with multiple levels of awareness in ourselves, including lucidity.

3. Desert locale.

4. An organized group effort of a small group of men.

5. We both saw the dream as a "rehearsal" for a physical reality event.

6. Bones or other evidence of ancient existence.

7. Digging or searching for something hidden in the earth.

Of course, aside from the similarities, many differences also exist in the
two dream reports. In my experience, the dreamscape functions like a sort
of Rorschach, in which dreamers selectively notice, perceive, and
idiosyncratically identify some elements while ignoring others. Selective,
or fragmentary, recall of the dreams afterwards further compounds the
difficulties involved in making valid comparisons. Given the inconsistent
nature of human observation documented in accident reports, one can no more
expect an exact agreement in description for two participants in a dream
event than one could expect it for a physical event which involves far
fewer confounding variables. This makes the similarities shown in the two
dream reports even more significant. Also, although Harvey had not shaved
his beard physically, I wonder whether he in this case dreamed of himself
as clean-shaven like Indiana Jones. The appearance of my dream body often
differs markedly from my physical body.

The Possibility of Artifactual Contamination

Dream Sharing

Other reported mutual dreams also have many similarities, but fail to
address the possibility of contamination of one dream account with the
other. I will try to deal as forthrightly as possible with this issue. From
the beginning, I intentionally tried to keep such contamination to a
minimum, by withholding details from my dream until I had heard them
independently from Harvey. Harvey confirms my telling him that I did not
want to influence his dream recall by saying anything more than that I had
dreamed of him.
Unfortunately, I found it necessary to get some of the details of Harvey's
dream from him on the phone, when it appeared that because of the heavy
constraints on his time, that he might not write down his dream account at
all. After he related a number of congruent details with my dream, I asked
if he had seen us on an "archeological expedition" - Harvey said he did not
recall this. However, when I received his written account, the word
"archeological" did show up in his account, seemingly showing at least some
degree of unconscious contamination resulting from my question. At the time
Harvey found himself too busy to write down his dreams, and he eventually
only wrote down this specific dream because of my request.

How does Harvey explain the discrepancies between his brief verbal account
given to me on the phone and his later very detailed written account? He
explains it this way "Once I make a mental note about something, similar to
a flag on a file, I can access the memory in detail, like opening the file
and viewing the documents in it. When Ed called me, I made such a mental
note and, when I had a few minutes to spare from the IRS audit, recalled
the dream in detail. When Ed mentioned archeological dig on the phone, I
did not remember details of the dream. I did not, at that moment, access
the detailed memory. All I could remember then was a general sense of the
group, including Ed, in the desert. Later, when I had time to access the
dream memory, it supplied details that I could relate to Ed's comment about
archeological dig. My basic impression of the dream had formed a gestalt of
rehearsal in the astral plane, not a gestalt of archeological dig. So when
Ed mentioned archeological dig, I didn't seem to fit my general memory of
the dream."

The Dreamers

Ed Kellogg

Although I earned my Ph.D. in biochemistry, I have devoted much of my time
over the past 20 years to the study of dreams. I have recorded and indexed
over 10,000 of my own dreams, hundreds of these belonging to the fully
lucid category. I have presented and published a number of papers on my
work in this area, covering topics from lucid dream phenomenology (Kellogg
1985, 1989b, 1992), to applications such as lucid dream healing (Kellogg
1989a, 1996). I have a long-standing commitment to the disciplines of
phenomenology and of general semantics, and I have applied these to my work
in many different areas.

Harvey Grady

"I remembered many dreams in childhood, and at the age of fourteen read
Freud's "Interpretation of Dreams". I occasionally wrote notes about
powerful or puzzling dreams from my mid-teens on. At the age of seventeen,
I read about Edgar Cayce, who interpreted dreams in ways that seemed much
more appropriate to me than did Freud's approach. Starting at age
twenty-seven I participated in an Edgar Cayce dream study group for twenty
years. Today, when appropriate, I use dream interpretation and
dramatization techniques in counseling others. Presently, most of my dreams
belong to the semi-lucid to fully lucid categories."

My Relationship with Harvey

Although I had met Harvey years earlier, I worked most closely with him as
a consultant on a project in 1986 and 1987 when Harvey served as the
Director of the Fetzer Energy Medicine Research Institute in Scottsdale,
Arizona. Harvey and I shared a number of interests, including a long term
study of our own dreams. Since that time, I have seen him very
infrequently, and had not seen, phoned, or even corresponded with him for
two years or so when I had the dream in December of 1994. I also dream of
(or with!) Harvey very infrequently. In fact, my rather comprehensive dream
index shows only six entries up to the time of the dream, of which a dream
on 8/3/1993 precedes the one given here. Harvey wrote that since we met in
the early 80's, that he recalls only three or four instances in which he
dreamed of me, mostly when we worked together at F.E.M.R.I. By chance
alone, not even looking at dream content, one must consider a night in
which Harvey and I dream of each other as a very improbable coincidence in
itself.

Despite my infrequent contacts with Harvey, I do consider him one of the
few people that I trust, and with whom I can share my interests freely.
Linda Lane Magallón had contacted me in the Fall of 1994 about some dreams
of mine that she wanted to include in her book on mutual dreaming, which
brought the subject to the forefront of my attention. As a dedicated lucid
dreamer with a long-standing interest in mutual dreams, I judged it as
worthwhile to place a long distance call to check for confirmation. I find
the similarities in the dreams amazing, and under these particular
circumstances, one can not only eliminate day-residue from personal contact
as a factor, but even year-residue.
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Conclusion

If we do sometimes connect in some way with friends, relatives, and
strangers in dreams while our physical bodies sleep, why do evidential
reports occur so rarely? A number of factors contribute to the scarcity of
such reports. For example

1. Most people in our culture do not take dream events seriously, usually
considering them not important enough to talk about.

2. Very few people share their dreams even when they remember them,
especially with those they dreamed about, for fear of ridicule or
embarrassment.

3. Most people either don't remember their dreams or remember them very
poorly - such as recalling only a fragment of the last dream of the night,
out of 5 or 6 dreams.

4. Even if two people do have a mutual dream, prejudice will more than
likely relegate this mutual dream to a curiosity, soon forgotten or only
seen as an amusing coincidence.

5. The evidential quality of most spontaneous mutual dreams seems very low,
due to the possibility of uncontrolled contamination of the dream accounts
through informal dream sharing or day residue.

6. Lack of recognition of dream selves with their physical counterparts
because the appearance of the dream self may differ markedly from the
appearance of the physical self.

7. Misidentifications of people in dreams due to the "substitution phenomenon".

Factors 1- 5 seem fairly obvious, but factors 6 and 7 need some additional
explanation. Factor 6, that our appearance in dreams can differ markedly
from our physical appearance, makes a confusing situation even more
confusing. In the physical world we habitually use appearance to determine
identity. In the dream world this habit serves us poorly, as one's
appearance can change, from moment to moment, and from dream to dream. I
usually assume (when fully lucid) that a dream character may embody the
"dream self" of a physically based friend according to how they "feel" to
me, if they "feel" like my friend, rather than if they just look like them.
To discriminate in this way while dreaming requires a high degree of
lucidity on my part, but it can markedly reduce uncontrolled variables. The
fact that lucidity played a role for both Harvey and myself in this mutual
dream event may seem more than coincidental. Informed lucid dreamers might
make the best population for a study of the phenomenon, because as lucidity
increases so does the potential for discernment.

Factor 7 refers to the fact that the dreaming mind often shows very poor
discrimination by identifying unfamiliar dream people, or things, with
familiar and somewhat similar physical reality counterparts. In 1974, I had
a lucid dream that led to my personal discovery of this tendency, which I
called "the substitution phenomenon" (Kellogg, 1984, 1989). Lucid dreamers
have experienced at least one blatant example of the "substitution
phenomenon", when they realized while dreaming that they had mistakenly
identified (substituted) dream reality as physical reality. But the
discovery of this misidentification only begins the process of unmasking
the pervasive nature of "substitution phenomena" in even the most lucid of
dreams.

For example, I dream of my brother, but when I wake up to a more critical
awareness in a lucid dream, I usually find that my dream [brother] does not
really look like, or "feel" like, my physical reality brother, and I
encounter instead a substitute whom I had misidentified as my brother in
the dream. Similarly, I often dream of my home, yet on attaining lucidity I
notice that my dream [home] differs in many ways from my physical home. I
find the same "substitution phenomenon" in my non-lucid dreams, in that I
routinely find that my interpretation of the characters and events of a
dream while dreaming does not correspond to the more critical
identifications I make when I review the dream after waking up. My dreaming
mind seems to take the path of least resistance by identifying unfamiliar
people, objects, or locales with familiar ones, quite often fitting square
pegs into round holes.

In my experience, dreams, like plays, occur on at least three qualitatively
different levels. First, the structural level, that consists of the stage
settings and props, the raw dreamscape before we project meaning onto it.
This level makes up the substratum of the dream, dream phenomena qua
phenomena. Second, the meaning level, in which symbols, feelings, and the
relationships of the dream characters and objects predominate.. And
finally, and most superficially, the labeling level, where we verbally
interpret and identify what happens during a dream.
Written and oral accounts usually focus on describing the labeling level of
dreams, where we often boil down a multilevel experience into a few
simplistic identifications. Many dreamworkers probe deeper and focus on the
underlying meaning level of the dream. The structural level of the dream,
the substratum, usually remains either unnoticed or ignored, but it may
prove the least idiosyncratic level of them all. As such it may hold the
key to providing the best evidence for dream mutuality. For example,
although both Harvey and I dreamed of ourselves in almost identical desert
dreamscapes, I identified it as Mexico, whereas Harvey first identified it
as the Holy Land in Israel. Those who wish to investigate the possibility
of mutual dreaming may need to pay more attention to descriptions of the
structural level of dreams, rather than to the identifications made by the
dreamers on the labeling level. A similar effect exists in "remote-viewing"
experiments, where researchers find that when subjects focus on the
structural content of their perceptions, as opposed to the verbal
identifications made from that content, that the probability of their
achieving a "hit" on a remote-viewing target improves markedly (Swann, 1991).

To upgrade the phenomenon of "mutual" dreaming from an unlikely possibility
to a probable reality requires more than anecdotal evidence; it requires a
formal and controlled study in which informed participants make use of
specified procedures and documentation. Evidential cases of mutual dreaming
have significant implications not only to the nature of the dream, but also
to that of human nature as well. I look forward to the results of future
research in this area.

REFERENCES

Kellogg III, E.W. (1985). The substitution phenomenon. Dream Network
Bulletin, 4(5), 5-7
Kellogg III, E. W. (1989a). A personal experience in lucid dream healing.
The Lucidity Letter, 8(1), 6-7
Kellogg III, E.W. (1989b). Mapping territories A phenomenology of lucid
dream reality. Lucidity Letter, 8(2), 81 - 97.
Kellogg III, E. W. (1992). The Lucidity Continuum. Presented at the Eighth
Annual Conference of the Lucidity Association in Santa Cruz, June 28, 1992.
Paper available from the author.
Kellogg III, E. W. (1995). Lucid Dream Healing. Presented at the Thirteenth
Annual Conference of the Association for the Study of Dreams in Berkeley,
July 11, 1995. ( For an update of this work go to
http//www.asdreams.org/documents/1999_kellogg_lucid-healing.htm )
Swann, I. (1991), Everybody s Guide to Natural ESP Unlocking the
Extrasensory Power of Your Mind, Jeremy P. Tarcher, Inc., Los Angeles.








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Reprint of Dreams sent in shortly after 9-11-2001

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Sent to stan krippner by a friend:

Trapped in a Building - by D

I am trapped in a building. It is as if people have turned against one
another. I restrain another man who is losing his mind. I have hope that
someone will enter the building from the outside--will rescue us--but when
people do, they are mad also. People are throwing things to try to kill one
another. It is as if war has broken out in everyday life. I break out of
the building. It looks like a "Mad Max" film. People are covered with
pancake makeup so thick it looks like flour...

I did not recall this dream on Tuesday until I saw pictures of the ash
covering people in the streets of New York.
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source: from dream-flow:



Dream Title precognitive dream from nette, the mystic detective
Date of Dream during the week of September 11, 2000
Dream Last year, September 11, 2000:

Nightmares following the birth of Sept. 4 - I am in a high rise and I see
an airplane outside get struck by lightning. It is drifting into flames
around tall buildings near my window, Mala? Airlines? As it starts to hit
the building I feel pressure all around me and I start to freak out. Why
did I have to go through such painful labour only to die minutes later?

In light of Tuesday's tragedy: I can remember the dream and how I felt,
looking out of the window and watching the plane from the inside of the
building. Mala? Lightning was wrong or misinterpretation of flames.

Comments by Dreamer I had given birth to my first son on September 4, 2000
and in the week that followed had a series of intense dream experiences,
all accompanied by strong physical sensations like I felt in this dream, a
pressure around my body pulling me down. I am not sure when I had the dream
exactly, but I do know I entered it in my computer dream journal on
September 11th of last year.

Permission to Comment yes_share_comments Permission Comments I am glad I
have found a place to share this
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Dream Title Never in America
Date of Dream 8/30
Dream About two weeks ago I dreamed that I was in a large one story
building waiting to board a plane to China. The Chinese began bombing. I
could see planes filling the air and bombs were dropping everywhere. I hid
under a cot in a back room. I remember being terrified, but also completely
stunned that this was happening in the U.S.

The Chinese then began tying the hands of some of the people that were in
the front room and taking them away. The rest of us they let go.

I was very shaken by this dream. When I awoke I remembered it vividly.

Comments by Dreamer This was not a common dream setting or theme for me.
The most important feature of the dream was not it's imagery or the action,
but the strong emotions I felt. The terror, anguish, and above all the
shock and disbelief that this was happening here. That is why I feel the
dream was prophetic although the details were very different from actual
events. When I awoke Tuesday morning to hear of the events that had occured
I immediately thought of this dream, because the feelings were the same.



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Finger sliced by cardboard cutter - by JH

Before the event I have had several nightmares - that have personal
dimensions related to my own challenges, but they also suggest perhaps a
keying in to the collective. One dream a week before Sept 11 - was me
looking through the inside of a burning plane. As I am in NZ I was of
course asleep and dreaming as the terrorism was happening. I dreamed I was
amongst dangerous forces - people with very dark eyes. There was a
conspiracy. Then I was running in a building trying to escape something
terrifying. It felt like Russia. Everything was in a state of collapse. I
open a door I expect to be locked and go through to a back door - looking
for someone to help me.

An Arab man comes towards me and slices my finger slowly and definitely
with a cardboard cutter. It was senselessly cruel and unexpected. Most of
the night I tossed and turned - waking a lot. I awoke uncharacteristically
early and turned on the radio to hear the news. I was stunned.
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Date: 2001-9-11, about 8 a.m. EST (roughly 1 hour before the terrorist
attacks on WTC, Pentagon)
Title: Person w/ questionable "Aerospace Engineer" passport I'm at the
airport as an employee, it seems, and there's this person there who at
first I think is some guy that we've been hanging or working with for the
morning perhaps. He hands his resume/passport to the person at the security
stand, and it's a few printed sheets of fanfold paper. It looks like it may
have come off of some old printer. It seems quite suspicious for some
reason, and I think the other security woman there that I'm working with
feels this too. I grab a copy of it and walk to the side, looking at it
also in private. I forget the name, but the occupation says "Aerospace
Enginineer". The whole thing seems questionable as I read it over and I
wonder if this isn't a fraud passport. I come back out to where the person
is and to where my colleague, the main security woman is. I tell her my
thoughts privately on the passport sheets and suggest that we check this
person out with the officials. The questionable person is now more of a
younger dark, straight-haired woman (used to be more like a man, I
believe). I know the person somehow as an acquaintance and s/he seems to be
wondering what's up. I am not at ease telling her/him the truth that we are
investigating her/him. After a little, these two customs officers come and
talk to her and ask her if she has any stocks or options. They walk away
before she even answers to check some other things. I ask her if I heard
right about what they said, and I know she now knows that she's under
investigation. I leave and go aside for a bit. Later, I feel like I would
rather be honest with her and let her know that I encouraged the other
security woman to have her checked out. (C.W., Montreal, Qc)

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It is with deep sadness that I relate my premonition which occurred 24
hours before this terrible nightmare of terrorism. At 4 AM PST (7AM EST) I
awoke on Monday morning Sept. 10th, 2001. I'd had a dream about New York
City. I had an awful sense of foreboding and panic in my body. The U.S. is
very vulnerable to an air attack similar to WWII was the message. An
airplane would dive/crash into a building. It was imminent and very
destructive. The impending doom feeling stayed with me. I actually called
911 to see what was going on. When I finally went back to sleep briefly, I
awoke with the tragic sense of danger and I almost blurted out to several
school moms in the morning, but I kept it to myself. I tucked it away that
afternoon, feeling a little foolish at how it had really affected me and my
perception of how easily a tragedy could happen. Until this morning, when I
was not surprised at what happened, but shocked at how much the magnitude
of what had happened matched that internal sense of impending destructive
doom that I'd felt the day before. I think it's important to acknowledge
this and it's difficult to talk about but necessary. May they rest in
peace. Athough, I've had premonitions before, this is certainly the biggest
and strongest esp. in the feeling of WWII vulnerability. It was actually
the course of events when I awoke from an inviting dream on Monday about
New York City that began the premonition. I thought I'd heard the sound of
an airplane flying above. I was overcome with a terror/panic that was quite
remarkable. For some reason it felt like WWII, that America could be
attacked and that a plane would dive/crash into a building intentionally. I
cannot emphasize enough, the magnitude of the feeling--that it was imminent
danger and it felt overwhelming. Also, that the feeling continued to stay
with me on Monday upon awakening again. When I called 911 to see what was
going on and they assured me that there was a helicopter search being
conducted for a fugitive in the neighborhood. The interesting aspect to
this part is that prior to living here, I'd lived two blocks from a trauma
hospital which constantly had helicopters transporting trauma victims to
their site. So, naturally, I was used to hearing helicopters. (C.F., Santa
Rosa, CA)
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Rox

I certainly have noticed that MANY people here and in other dream groups
have had a number of dreams involving a huge tragedy lately. I thought
something was going on. I think this is only the beginning. My mother has
had recurring dreams about buildings collapsing, also I had one last night
about my mother and I running through a horrible lightning storm, drenching
pouring rain, fog so thick you could barely see through it, trying not to
get hit by the lightning from above.

I think it does nothing but reinforce the fact that what's done to one, is
done to all.

Praying for all thse in DC, Pittsburgh, NYC.
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Here's a prediction I posted over a month ago on the sygyzyjob.net website
when I assumed my dream meant an Earthquake;

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Date: July 29, 2001 at 03:03:34
From: D.P.,
Subject: Fall/Winter,New York,7.7,80%

Has anybody else out there had a premonition dream of an earthquake hitting
New York? I had my dream about 2:33 AM, July 29th, 2001.
In the dream I was watching the Today Show on my TV and Katie Couric was
talking. All of the sudden everything at the Today Show studio shook and
the TV signal from New York blacked out and immediately cut back to local
advertisements. I also felt my house shake a little bit in the dream
because I live in Michigan and quakes in the Eastern U.S. travel for quite
a ways.

I also saw periodic cut-ins into the local broadcasts by Katie doing a
remote hook-up from a television truck and she was talking about 10,000
people dying in a building. Either she was talking about the Empire State
Building or the World Trade Center. In the dream the quake was very
devastating because she could barely hold her emotions together on the air
and in the background of the TV image I could see huge open spaces where
tall skyscrapers once stood and one tall skyscraper billowing smoke from
all of it's broken windows. While Katie was interviewing some survivors,
more aftershocks hit th

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