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October 2002

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++ Editor's Notes
Special Issue: N.I.G.H.T.M.A.R.E.S

++ The Global Dreaming News
Events - Updates - Reviews - More
From Peggy Coats - www.DreamTree.com

++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis

++ Article: Matching Troublesome Nightmares
With Appropriate Action
By Linda Lane Magallón

++ Article: National Nightmare Hotline : Year Two
Jill Fischer

++ Article: Nightmares and Dreamwork Resources Online
Summary of ASD Nightmare Page
By Richard Wilkerson

++ Article: Nightmares! New Approaches
By Richard Catlett Wilkerson

++ Article: Becoming Nightmare: the Rhizomatics of Dreaming
By Richard Catlett Wilkerson

D R E A M S S E C T I O N : Volume #528 - #569
With Elizabeth Westlake and Harry Bosma


D E A D L I N E :
Oct 16th deadline for November 2002 submissions


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Send Dreaming News and Calendar Events to:
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Welcome to the October 2002 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to dreams
and dreaming online. This month, a special NIGHTMARE issue.

If you are new to dreams and dreaming, please join us on
dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the resources you
need. To join send an e to
dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

As you probably noticed, the Dream Section now looks
~fantastic~. Why? Because we have a Dream Section Editor, Elizabeth
Westlake!
If you have dreams you want published, don't send them to her directly, but
rather enter them in the form at
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple
Or you can put them in the dream flow directly by subscribing
to: dream-flow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Our news directory, Peggy Coats, from dreamtree.com, has gathered dreaming
news from around the world. In the Global Dreaming News you will find the
latest dream and dreamwork events, conferences, and seminars. Also you will
find research and research requests for subject, updates on your favorite
dream websites, book reviews and more. If you have news items about dreams
and dreaming for Peggy, send them to her at web@...

Our NIGHTMARE special starts off with a new column from Lucy Gillis and
Jorge Conesa on "Sleep Paralysis Sensations: Echoes of Body Re-Entry
Problems?" If you have ever awaken and been frozen in bed, you will know
why this is included in the nightmare section.

Linda Lane Magallón challenges some of the over-used metaphorical
approaches to nightmares and opens the door to a wide variety of other
causes than haunting psychological problems. Be sure to read "Matching
Troublesome Nightmares With Appropriate Action."

It has now been a year since the National Nightmare Hotline went into
operation. Director Jill Fischer gives us an update and a chance for you to
participate as a volunteer. Read "National Nightmare Hotline : Year Two."

If you are a dreamworker and feel you need more training in working with
nightmares, you will really enjoy my summary in "Nightmares! New
Approaches" and the full ASD selection of articles by the worlds most
renowned authorities, linked direct for instant access or organized study.

For those of you who want either good quick advice on nightmares or
in-depth and more challenging articles, you will enjoy my summary of the
ASD Nightmare Page which we created a year ago. I talk about some of the
resources there from some of the biggest players in the field.

If you have been wondering if we spend too much time treating nightmares
and perhaps not appreciating them, you will get a thrill out the re-run of
my article "Becoming Nightmare: the Rhizomatics of Dreaming."

The Annual Halloween Dream Swarm. Well, I don't have any specific
activities planned, but as usual, this month I will be knocking on your
cyberdoor to get updates about your dream websites. So load up your new
materials and send me the scoop, or Dreambat may be visiting to haunt you!

We don't send the cover with the e-zine, but you can view, download and
print up a copy anytime at:
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/ed-covers/



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For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to stop by one
of the many resources:
http://www.dreamtree.com
http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library

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Next Month: Aftermath of the PsiberDreaming Conference: What's new in Psi
dreaming? Deadline for articles, Oct 11th. Send to rcwilk@...


-Richard Wilkerson

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If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats,
web@.... Visit Global Dreaming News online at
http://www.dreamtree.com/


This Month's Features:

NEWS

- New Research on Black/White vs. Color Dreams

- Dream/Art Weekend offered by Kathleen Sullivan
- Autodrama and Creative Dream Re-Staging

- ASD's PsiberDreaming Conference

- Meeting Psyche: A Jungian Approach to Dreams

- Dreaming and Awakening in Paradise: Lucid Dreams Retreat

- Awakening to the Wisdom of The Dream

- Dreaming Beyond Borders

- Exploring Dream Space with Marie Volchenko

- Marin Institute for Projective Dreamwork

- Get your Dreams on T.V. in LA Area

- Dreamscape: Smithsonian Institute Conference on Dreaming

- ASD Dream Conference in Atlanta, Georgia

- SCI FI Channel is looking for guests to tell their dreams

- ASD Regional in Bay Area : Dreaming Beyond Borders

- The Manhattan Dreamwork Seminars &
Cambridge Dreamwork Intensives
A Training in Embodied Dreamwork


RESEARCH & REQUESTS

- Dreams about Islam

- Dreams that Have Inspired Wondrous Joy



WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES

- Dreams and CRC Theory

- Dream Interpetations from YieldofDreams


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>>> New Research on Black and White vs. Color Dreams

Do People Still Report Dreaming in Black and White? An Attempt to Replicate
a Questionnaire from 1942
In the 1940's and 1950's, many people in the United States appear to have
thought they dreamed in black and white. For example, Middleton (1942)
found 70.7% of college sophomores to report "rarely" or "never" seeing
colors in their dreams. I attempted to replicate Middleton's questionnaire
and found that students in 2001 reported much more colored dreaming than
their earlier counterparts, only 17.7% saying that they "rarely" or "never"
see colors in their dreams. Assuming that dreams themselves have not
changed over this time period, one or the other (or both) groups of
students must be profoundly mistaken about a basic feature of their dream
experiences.

Why Did We Think We Dreamed in Black and White?
In the 1950's, dream researchers commonly thought that dreams were
predominantly a black and white phenomenon, although both earlier and later
treatments of dreaming presume or assert that dreams have color. The first
half of the twentieth century saw the rise of black and white film media,
and it is likely that the emergence of the view that dreams are black and
white was connected with this change in media technology. If our opinions
about basic features of our dreams can change with changes in technology,
it seems to follow that our knowledge of the phenomenology of our own
dreams is much less secure than we might at first have thought it to be.
For more information, contact:

Eric Schwitzgebel
Department of Philosophy - 065
University of California
Riverside, CA 92521-0201
http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~eschwitz




>>> Dream/Art Weekend offered by Kathleen Sullivan
October 26 & 27, 2002
Dreams, the soul's gold, bring light to the journey of everyday life. Five
times a night dreams encourage healing of the past and provide direction
for the future, always leading to wholeness. In order to avoid the
pitfalls of mistaken literalism, the symbolic and metaphoric language of
the dream must be understood. This two-day workshop will provide the tools
necessary to clearly see the brilliance of your nightly gems. You will
focus on one or two of your dreams applying the techniques to understand
symbols and metaphors, story line and therapeutic value of these loving
messages from your unconscious. Through lecture and art activities, working
in small group and with partners, the approaches you learn will help you
understand your future dreams. Cost: $165 includes 2 continental
breakfasts, a gourmet lunch Saturday, light lunch Sunday. Hor d oeuvres
will accompany the private wine tasting and dream art reception Sunday at
2:00 PM. When: Saturday, Oct. 26 (10:00 to 4:00) and Sunday, Oct. 27 (10:00
to 2:00). Where: The beautiful Sogno Winery in Shingle Springs, CA. 3046
Ponderosa Rd. (530) 672-6968 Call Kathleen Sullivan at 831-372-8534 or
email dremwvr@... for reservations before October 10.





>>> Autodrama and Creative Dream Restaging
November 16 &17 Amersfoort Holland
Exploring the imagery of Dreams and Problem Solving with Ann Sayre Wiseman.
A way to deepen understanding of the metaphors
of the night mind. Contact: herminemensink@... or visit
www.annsayrewiseman.com



>>> Announcing ASD's First Online PsiberDreaming Conference

Join some of the world's foremost experts on the subject of Psi dreaming
for two weeks of cutting-edge papers, discussions, workshops, and chats. If
you've ever had a precognitive dream, a lucid dream, or simply an 'unusual
dream' that never quite made sense, this is the place for you. For two
weeks, from September 22, 2002 to October 6, 2002, participants worldwide
will enjoy online experiments, psiber games with prizes, chats, and
discussions on paranormal dreaming in the shared meeting space of virtual
reality. All for $25 or less for ASD members! Register before August 31st
and receive an additional $5 off conference fees. And if you don't belong
to ASD, join ASD as a new member from August 10 - October 6 and as a bonus
get a free pass to the Psiber Conference! For more information on this
historic event, go to: http://asdreams.org/psi2002/





>>> Meeting Psyche: A Jungian Approach to Dreams

In our dream life, every aspect of our personality takes its turn on the
stage that opens with sleep. Our nobler qualities and shadow side, our
aspirations and fears, our troubling fixations and undeveloped potentials
all strive to communicate their natures and purposes as they seek to find
expression within our unique selves. This course, designed for both new
and continuing students of Jungian psychology, will present and explore the
basic concepts and dynamics of a Jungian approach to dream theory and
interpretation. Participants willing to share dream material are asked to
bring clearly written copies of their dreams to class. Basic
journal-writing and image-making exercises will be
used to amplify dream material. C. G. Jung Institute, 1567 Maple Ave,
Evanston, IL 60201. Phone: 847-475-4848 or 800-697-7696. email:
jung@...
web: www.jungchicago.org


>>> Dreaming and Awakening in Paradise

A 10-day Residential Training Program in Lucid Dreaming and Tibetan Dream
Yoga with Stephen LaBerge and Friends. Kalani, Hawaii, November 1-10, 2002

Rejuvenate body and mind. Awaken to your inner life. Stop sleeping through
your dreams. Join us in exploring the boundless frontiers of the dream
world in a setting of glorious natural beauty. Nurtured by the paradisical,
dream-like environment on the sunny secluded Puna Coast of the island of
Hawaii, we will cast off our blinders, drop the shackles of our ordinary
routines, and take a fresh look at what is real and what is dream. Becoming
adept at lucid dreaming requires focused attention and practice that is
difficult to maintain during our busy lives. This retreat provides an ideal
opportunity to devote time to cultivating your lucid dreaming ability and
enhancing your mindfulness in everyday life, using the most effective
techniques and technology, derived from Tibetan dream yoga and Western
science. Although we cannot guarantee that everyone will have (and
remember) a lucid dream during the program, in past years, most
participants have done so, and all have experienced enhanced awareness of
the dreamlike nature of "reality."


The retreat includes: Ten days and nine nights of balanced fun and focus on
consciousness, dreaming and awakening at the beautiful, dream-inspiring
Kalani Oceanside Retreat Center on the Big Island of Hawaii; Daily group
and individual exercises in developing lucid dreaming skills and enhancing
consciousness, dreaming and waking; Valuable insight into the application
of lucidity and mindfulness to all aspects of life; sleep schedule
(including naps) optimized for the promotion of lucid dreams; Use of lucid
dream induction technology; Discussion sessions and personal guidance by
Dr. Stephen LaBerge, world-renowned expert on lucid dreaming; and dreams,
dreams, and more dreams!


FEES: Standard rate, US$2000, includes room and board. Space is extremely
limited; a non-refundable deposit of US$200 will reserve you a place in the
program until September 15, when the balance is due. SCHOLARSHIPS:
Contingent upon space availability, we plan to offer several scholarships
providing reduced fees, as determined by demonstrated financial need and
merit. If you would like to attend this program, but feel the cost is
beyond your means, fill out the form
at http://www.lucidity.com/DAAK02/scholarship.html FOR INFORMATION OR TO
REGISTER http://www.lucidity.com/DAAK02 CALL: +1 650 321-9969 or 1 800 GO
LUCID (1 800 465-8243)EMAIL: daak02f@...



>>> Awakening to the Wisdom of the Dream: November 2, Atlanta, GA.
Learn to use your dreams for a deeper self-understanding, leading to
greater life fulfillment. Explore the use of dreams throughout history.
Examine creativity and problem solving through dreams. Discover how dreams
can be used for health, healing, personal growth and as a guide through
life's passages. Presenters include Deirdre Barrett, Robert Van de Castle,
Rita Dwyer and Justina Lasley. Light lunch included. Cost: $80 general
public/ $65 ASD members. Registration: www.emory.edu/eve. after Sept. 6.
For further info, contact Justina at P.O.Box 52323, Atlanta, GA, 30355,
E-mail drmkpr@... or Tallulah Lyons, 3082 Old Cabin Lane, Smyrna, GA
30080, e-mail blyons@...( 9:30 AM-4:30PM)


>>> ASD Regional in Bay Area : Dreaming Beyond Borders

Dreaming Beyond Borders: The Transformative Power of Dreams


November 2 and 3, 2002
John F. Kennedy University
Orinda, California


A Regional Conference of The Association for the Study
of Dreams
Sponsored by the Dream Studies Certificate Program,
Graduate School of Holistic Studies


Through the ages, dreams have been a source of creative inspiration,
personal growth, problem solving and spiritual insight. While the twentieth
century was marked by important discoveries about the unconscious and the
dreaming mind, the turn of the millennium is giving us the opportunity to
reflect and envision a new dream for the advancement of human
consciousness. What archetypes are embodied at this historical moment and
what transformations are possible through dreams? Could dream awareness
lead us to global peace? How might dreams be a catalyst for social change?
This conference will address these important possibilities.


For complete conference information, including presentation descriptions,
call 925.258.1822 or visit
http://www.ASDreams.org/2002orinda.


One-day registration fees for either Saturday,
November 2 or Sunday, November 3 are:

$125 General, $100 ASD Member, $75 Student, $60 ASD Student Member.

Two-day registration fees are:

$225 General, $180 ASD Member, $135 Student, $110 ASD Student Member.

To register by phone, please call 925-254-0105.

To register by mail, visit:

http://www.ASDreams.org/2002orinda to download and print a registration form.

>>> Exploring Dream Space with Maria Volchenko, Ph.D.
Saturday and Sunday, September 7-8, 2002, 10 a.m. to 5 p.m.
3220 Sacramento, upper floor, San Francisco. Parking on the first floor.
Please, register early by sending a check of Eighty Dollars ($80), written
to Ruth-Inge Heinze, to 2321 Russell St. #3C, Berkeley, CA 94705-1959. For
information, phone (510) 849-2791 or e-mail RIHeinze@...



>>>Marin Institute for Projective Dream Work

Dream Work Certificate Program. The program features weekend work in San
Rafael, CA with Jeremy Taylor; pay as you go; take as long as you need; and
small groups. "Projective dream work assumes that thoughts we have about
the dreams of others reflect our own internal lives. When we comment on
someone else's dream we're really saying `if it were my dream....'" (Jeremy
Taylor). For more information, visit http://www.jeremytaylor.com/marin.htm


>>> Get your Dreams on T.V. in LA Area

The Berman sisters (a medical doctor and a psychologist) have a TV
show and are planning an episode on dreaming. They are looking for
dreamers who live in the L.A. area. If you live in that area and have
some interesting dreams that have influenced your life, contact
Laurie Dash at (818) 755-4800 ext. 170. You may have a chance to
be on television!

http://health.discovery.com/fansites/bermans/bermans.html


>>> Dreamscape: Smithsonian Institute Conference on Dreaming

Dreamscape: The Intelligence and Creativity of Your Dreaming Brain

SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTE Washington DC. Saturday, Oct. 5, 10 am - 4 pm

Richard E. Cytowic, MD Annette Covatta, DMA

FINDING MEANING and creative ideas in our lives can be elusive. Who would
think that dreams might point the way? Learn how dreams arise and how they
help us solve problems creatively.

Avoiding the Freudian psychoanalytic approach to dreams, this intriguing
seminar draws on current neurological research about the origin and
function of dreams. Learn techniques to make dream symbols objective and
bring their relevance to the surface, and discover how dreams can be
sources of self­reflection and creative discovery.


To register phone 202­357­3030, or visit Smithsonian Institution (
http://residentassociates.org/com/brain.asp ) for a full catalogue description.

Richard E. Cytowic, MD
Washington DC 20011
e: R@...
http://cytowic.net

Schedule

10 ­ 11 am: Brainstorm: A Tour of Sleepers and Dreaming Brains

Dreaming consumes much energy and therefore serves a biologically useful
purpose. Within the 24 hour wake­sleep cycle the dream­state generator
cycles every 90 minutes, yet we usually remain unaware of our literal
daydreaming and rarely remember our nighttime dreams. We examine the 16
dream­state periods in a typical Washingtonian day.

Time­lapse photos of sleepers reveal much about internal brain
states. Biological clocks develop stable tempos with one another, and thus
two brain rhythms can synchronize such that two people literally "sleep
together." We conclude with current notions of what function dreams serve.

11 ­ Noon: Remembering and Recording your Dreams

Ways to greatly increase dream recall; how lucid dreaming lets us direct
our own dream narratives; keeping a dream diary to make objective what is
inherently symbolic.

Dreams pull on both intellect and imagination, seeming to relate to
something important. But what? What are our dreams pointing to? The first
step to finding out is a factual recapitulation in a log. In the afternoon,
we extend and examine these fleeting images.

12:15 ­ 1:45 Lunch

1:45 ­ 2:45 Dreamscape: Techniques of Reverie to Evoke Images

Once we log the factual data, we proceed with a neutral evocative technique
to stimulate insights and creative thoughts. A non­analytical approach
avoids the pitfalls of preconceived ideas common to Freudian analysis. In
order to connect life's inner threads of continuity to the outer level of
experience, you want to evoke the psyche rather than analyze it.

Attendees should bring a notebook and brief descriptions of 1 or 2 dreams
they may wish to explore.

2:45 ­ 4 p.m. The Creative Use of Dream Images

Dream­enlargement techniques bring the dream experience into the waking
state so that we can examine our patterns of symbolic thinking from the
vantage point of the present moment, and get fresh ideas to work with.
Dream and reverie images are inherently creative, solving problems on a
subconscious "twilight" level. In bringing our images' underlying
intelligence to the surface, we experience our dreams as sources of
self­reflection, inner guidance, and creative discovery.


>>> ASD Dream Conference in Atlanta, Georgia

Awaken to the Wisdom of Dreams

Saturday, November 2, 2002
9:30am-4:30pm
Emory University

Enjoy a day of dreaming with some of the foremost leaders in the field of
dreams. Be part of the first Southeastern event co-sponsored by the
Association for the Study of Dreams and the Center for Lifelong Learning at
Emory University

· Learn to use your dreams for a deeper self-understanding, leading to
greater life fulfillment.
· Explore the use of dreams throughout history.
· Examine creativity and problem solving through dreams.
· Discover how dreams can aid health, healing, personal growth and guide
you through life's passages.
· Experience a dream group and learn to make meaning of your dreams.
· Enjoy a selection of books on dreams which will be available for sale.


The Association for the Study of Dreams is an international,
interdisciplinary, educational association.


To secure a place, register soon!!

Register on-line (secure) at www.emory.edu/eve (Master Card and Visa), by
phone at 404-727-6000 from 9-4 (EST), or mail in registration form.
$80 complimentary lunch (vegetarian, too) $65 for ASD members (join at
ASDreams.org)
You will be notified of conference location after registration

For more information contact:

Justina Lasley at DrmKpr@... or 233 South Plaza Court, Mt. Pleasant,
SC 29464
Tallulah Lyons at blyons@... or 3082 Old Cabin Lane, Smyrna, GA
30080

>>> SCI FI Channel is looking for guests to tell their dreams

Calling all dreamers! The SCI FI Channel is looking for guests for their
new series, "The Dream Team with Annabelle and Michael." All you have to
do is call or e-mail us with your dream (be sure to include your name and
phone number), and you might be picked for a personal dream analysis on the
show! Guests will be featured live in studio, via satellite, and by phone.
Please call 323.520.5683 or email tvdreams02@...
And pleasant dreams...

>>> The Manhattan Dreamwork Seminars &
Cambridge Dreamwork Intensives
A Training in Embodied Dreamwork

Dreamwork Seminars: September 21 through June 14 (See Schedule)

Cambridge intensives : October 3-6, 2002 :: June 5-8, 2003


The Manhattan Dreamwork Seminars:
A Training in Embodied Dreamwork

Since 1972, Zurich-trained Jungian analyst Robert Bosnak has led dream
groups and explored dreaming with individuals, in both analytical and
didactic contexts, developing a new method called embodied dreamwork. This
technique is based on principles first developed by C.G. Jung, especially
in his work on alchemy, and on the work of James Hillman, who focused on
soul as a simultaneous multiplicity of autonomous states.
By using a variety of body-oriented techniques, embodied dreamwork allows
the dreamer to flashback into the dream, in order to experience and relive
the dream in hypnagogic awareness, a state of consciousness occurring
naturally during sleep-onset. By working on dreams (and memories) in this
way, personal as well as archetypal, emotional and physical elements are
uncovered, frequently leading to vivid therapeutic effects and bursts of
creativity.

Embodied dreamwork is effective in psychotherapy (individually or in
groups,) psychosomatics, and in work with patients suffering from severe
physical illness. It has also been used effectively to enhance the work of
actors, directors, visual artists and writers.

The Manhattan Dreamwork Seminars have been held since 1998. They offer
individual day-long seminars, as well as a two-year training program in
individual and group dreamwork (leading to a certificate as dreamwork
practitioner).

In order to qualify for training, some individual seminars are required.

Presently all seminars are lead by Robert Bosnak, currently president of
the international Association for the Study of Dreams, and author of: A
Little Course in Dreams(Shambhala pub. 1989); Tracks in the Wilderness
of Dreaming; and Christopher's Dreams -- Dreaming with an AIDS-patient .

Fees & Information
Manhattan Dreamwork Seminars: 9:30am-5pm, $130/day.

Location of all Dreamwork Seminars:
The 17th Street Loft
206 West 17h Street (corner of 7th Avenue)
9th floor
New York City, NY.

Cambridge intensives: (Max. 12)
October 3-6, 2002 :: June 5-8, 2003
Cambridge Intensives:
Thursday 7:30 pm- Sunday 4pm
$540 Tuition for the long weekend.

Location of Cambridge intensives:
Episcopal Divinity School :: 99 Brattle Street (near Harvard Square)
On Campus location: 10 St. John's Road, unless otherwise notified.
Cambridge, MA 02138


ORDER FORM REQUEST: Send to Robert Bosnak <rbosnak@...> and
request a form for mail in or visit the website
http://www.cyberdreamwork.com



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>>> Dream Survey : Are you having dreams about Islam?
http://dreamgate.com/dreamsofislam/

We are two Western Muslims, a British educator and an American writer, who
are interested both in how dreams relate to the spiritual life, and in how
Islam is presently perceived by Muslims and non-Muslims both in the west
and in traditionally Muslim lands. We hope to collaborate on a book with
the provisional title of Dreams of Islam. We are looking for striking or
significant dreams about Islam from both Muslims and non-Muslims, dreams
which have had a strong impact on you the dreamer, whether or not you think
the content would seem "interesting" to an outsider. The Islamic content
could refer to people, events, places, beliefs, practices, symbols,
memories or associations, architecture, works of art, written or spoken
words - anything specifically Islamic, or with an Islamic flavor.

You can fill out the survey at the website, or download the questions:
http://dreamgate.com/dreamsofislam/ . For more information, contact Charles
Upton : E-mail uptonjenny@...





>>> Dreams that Have Inspired Wondrous Joy

I am gathering descriptions of dreams by a dream conversation, an
awe-inspiring setting, a melody, a beautiful painting, or a joyful
encounter with an animal. Your dream may have inspired wondrous joy through
a delicious taste, a soul-energizing touch, a scent that overwhelms you
with delight, a sound that soothes ... a color that enchants you ... Fully
describe your own and others' feelings during the dream. Please include
permission to use your dream descriptions in my research and writing
projects. I also need your age, gender, race, nationality, and if possible,
the background events and feelings that preceded your inspiring dream. I
don't need your name and identifying information will be changed to ensure
anonymity. One of the additional purposes of this research is to provide a
source of inspiring dream images fro artists, writers, musicians, dancers,
etc. Contact: Karen Boileau
dreamofjoy@... . Karen F. Boileau, M.Ed., is a writer, community
education instructor, dream counselor, and workshop facilitator. Karen has
written several workbooks for her dream workshops and courses: "Artists
Dreaming Joy"; "What Did You Dream Last Night?"; "Lose Weight Using
Right-Brain Techniques"; and, "Stress, Dreams, and Intuition."


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Do you know of interesting new websites you'd like to share with others? Or
do you have updates to existing pages? Help spread the word by using the
Electric Dreams DREAM-LINK page
www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/online97.htm. This is really a public
projects board and requires that everyone keep up his or her own link URLs
and information. Make a point to send changes to the links page to us.





>>> Dreams and CRC Theory
http://www.mediaproxy.com/crc/crc.htm

Michael Coop presents speculations on his general CRC theory
(Comprehension, Rationalisation & Conclusion, the mechanisms by
which people recognize and respond to their surroundings) using dreams and
dreaming for illustration and example.


>>> Dream Interpetations from YieldofDreams
www.yieldofdreams.com


Colette Kelso received a BA in psychology, cum laude, from the University
of Colorado. She has a MFA in creative writing from Bennington College. She
has spent many years involved with symbols and their manifestation in
dreams, art, and our waking life.

In interpreting a dream, she goes through the description sentence by
sentence, making notes by hand, elaborating, conjecturing. The recounting
of the dream is as significant as the symbols and activities within the
dream. She looks at each piece separately as a metaphor, a message, and
then puts the pieces all back together into a final interpretation, which
is what you read in the end. She takes the time to stop and think and allow
the meaning to come through and make sense.

"I have been interpreting dreams for many years. My criteria for success in
this area is based upon the feedback of the dreamers. I don't simply tell a
dreamer what a dream means based on my experience, nor do I utilize a
standardized dictionary of symbols because I don't believe in their general
application. A dreamer must feel as if their world is understood or that
something personal and relevant has been revealed. That is the "a-ha"
feeling we get when something rings true at a deep level. I wish that
everyone could get that pleasurable feeling!" Colette Kelso

www.yieldofdreams.com



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D R E A M C A L E N D A R

September - October 2002

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Sep 6-7 in San Rafael, CA.
"Advanced Archetypal Dream and Myth Study", a weekend seminar with Jeremy
Taylor. For more information, contact th Marin Institute for Projective
Dream Work, at 415.454.2793.


Sep 7-8 in San Francisco, CA

Exploring Dream Space with Maria Volchenko, Ph.D. For information, phone
(510) 849-2791 or e-mail RIHeinze@...



Sep 22-27 in Lenox, MA
"Dream Teacher Training", a five-day training program with Robert Moss.
Requires Completion of at least two previous depth workshops with Robert.
Pre-approval is required for registration. If you wish to enroll, please
write to Robert -Robert@... or Box 215, Troy NY 12181.

Sept - June The Manhattan Dreamwork Seminars &
Cambridge Dreamwork Intensives
A Training in Embodied Dreamwork
Dreamwork Seminars: September 21 through June 14 (See Schedule)
Cambridge intensives : October 3-6, 2002 :: June 5-8, 2003
ORDER FORM REQUEST: Send to Robert Bosnak <rbosnak@...>


Sep 22-Oct 6, online

PsiberDreaming Conference - sponsored by ASD, two weeks of cutting-edge
papers, discussions, workshops, and chats. Still time to join! For more
information on this event, go to:http://asdreams.org/psi2002/


Oct 5, Smithsonian Institute Washington DC. Saturday
Dreaming Mind and Creativity
To register phone 202­357­3030

Nov. 2 ASD Dream Conference in Atlanta, Georgia
Saturday, November 2, 2002
9:30am-4:30pm
Emory University
404-727-6000 from 9-4 (EST)

November 2 and 3, 2002 ASD Regional in Bay Area
Dreaming Beyond Borders: The Transformative Power of Dreams
John F. Kennedy University :: Orinda, California
To register by phone, please call 925-254-0105.
To register by mail, visit:
http://www.ASDreams.org/2002orinda to download and print a
registration form.



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An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange

By Lucy Gillis


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An Excerpt From The Lucid Dream Exchange
By Lucy Gillis



Sleep Paralysis Sensations
Echoes of Body Re-Entry Problems?
(c) Lucy Gillis


During a recent e-mail discussion with sleep paralysis researcher Jorge
Conesa, Jorge wrote:


"I induced an SP and accidentally an OBE three nights ago. I panicked
seeing my own body and did not know how to get back. So I approached my
sleeping body and began chewing on, biting my own toes so I would wake up.
This did not work. So instead, I did my "roll up" trick and woke up in a
jolt! (The night preceding that OBE and the following night I recorded
several SP's, lucid and vivid dreams.)"


It struck me funny and I burst out laughing at the thought of being OBE,
hunched over your physical body and gnawing on your own feet! A comical
image indeed! But then, that image of a hunched figure bent over a sleeping
body led me to recall some of the classical nightmare descriptions, such as
an incubus crouched on a sleeper's chest, an image often used when
describing effects of sleep paralysis.


And then I began to wonder...


What if, (on some occasions), the dreamer himself is the one producing the
sensations felt during sleep paralysis?


Suppose the dreamer doesn't recall being out of body. According to one
theory, we leave our bodies every night when we sleep. We simply don't
remember that we do so. Just like we all dream every night, but not
everyone remembers their dreams. (For those who don't believe that we "go"
anywhere in our sleep, instead of the phrase "leave our bodies", substitute
"withdraw attention from the outer physical environment as our senses
become "cut off" or reduced as we enter the sleep cycle.")


What if, in the out of body state, we encounter difficulties getting back
into the physical body? (Or, if not "out of body" we encounter difficulties
in waking up and we hallucinate a dream version of our waking body.) What
if we do like Jorge and attempt to get back in (or wake up) by alerting the
physical body, trying to stir it to wakefulness? Could some of the
sensations felt during sleep paralysis be an "echo" of this activity when
the mind switches from dreaming consciousness to waking?


Feelings and emotions are often more easily recalled when we awaken than
are visual images. I'm sure we've all on occasion awakened from a dream
with a lingering feeling, perhaps anxiety, or happiness, yet we couldn't
recall what the specific dream was about.


If we tend not to remember our dreams when we wake, or not recall out of
body excursions, but we have a lasting feeling of anxiety or panic (from
trying to get in body or wake up), perhaps the mind produces a distorted
version of what is happening, trying to translate the sensations into
something familiar, as best it can.


Could we ourselves be the "demon" sitting on our own chests, trying to get
back into our bodies when in fact it is the mind trying to translate the
dream experience of our own attempts to return to waking reality?


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Matching Troublesome Nightmares With Appropriate Action

© Linda Lane Magallón

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From Electric Dreams 6(4)

Some time ago, a "20/20" TV broadcast featured dreamworker and radio host
Kathleen Sullivan. Kathleen, who is the author of *Recurring Dreams,*
described her dream of an eagle caught in a web. She interpreted her dream
eagle as a symbol for herself, caught in the web of alcoholic addiction.
She was able to use that insight to change her life, to stop drinking and,
as a result, her recurring dreams disappeared.

On the same program, another dreamworker, Gillian Holloway, spoke with four
people who were suffering from recurring nightmares. Like Kathleen, she
used symbolic interpretation in an attempt to match dream content with
current life. Afterwards, two of the people interviewed felt that the use
of metaphor and pun unlocked their dreams' meaning and revealed helpful
information. But the other two weren't so convinced.

That symbols reflect current life is only one possible meaning for dreams.
And to pinpoint the "meaning" of nightmares doesn't necessarily settle
queasy and painful feelings or prickly and fearful emotions. Even those
dreamworkers who usually take a passive approach to dreams will agree that
a troublesome nightmare is cause for action. Some examples of "behavioral
dreamwork" techniques are: re-entry visualization, cognitive belief work,
Senoi and lucid dreaming.


Furthermore, to focus solely on "symbolic interpretation" can miss the
literal cause of the trauma. Just as with any type of dream, each possible
stimulus for nightmare must be considered in order to match it with the
appropriate action. When dreams are multi-layered, several methods might be
used in conjunction.


Here are several possible explanations for nightmares and suggested responses:


1. A metaphor for current life attitudes and activities. When you change
your life, the dream changes. For example: you quit a job with a demanding
boss and your chase dreams cease.

2. A metaphor for a bio-chemical glitch or surge. For example: You dream of
your own body's dismemberment, as the pictorial equivalent of intrusive
thoughts. Because this sort of nightmare is the result of the mind-body
system not functioning at optimum (and expressing mental or physical
illness instead), it can require physiological intervention such as diet or
drug therapy. Conversely, drugs and normal hormonal changes can trigger it.
For example: you dream of tidal flooding just prior to your menstrual
period. A light touch of behavioral dreamwork techniques can shift content
to a more positive metaphor to describe the sensation.

3. A psychic copycat of a current situation. For example: your sister has
repeating nightmares. You "dream her dreams" because you are in psychic
resonance with her. Your dreams end when hers do. Or they cease when you
break the psychic bond with her, using cleansing or cutting rituals.

4. A repetition of a past traumatic event in current lifetime. For example:
you dream of your recent rape, a childhood assault or your wartime battle.
This type of nightmare is so deeply etched in the psyche that it can
require heavy use of behavioral dreamwork techniques to modify the content
and emotional intensity.

5. A depiction of a past or probable life. For example: you dream the last
events prior to your violent death. A request for new information may
provide additional dreams to shed light on the events surrounding this
nightmarish experience. Treatment involves the sort of behavior
modification techniques used for traumatic nightmares.

6. A depiction of the future. Confirmation occurs either when the dream
comes true or when you change your life so it won't come true. For example:
you buy new tires so you won't literally slide off the highway, as you keep
doing in your dreams.

Methods that determine meaning plus techniques that modify behavior
comprise the full tool set to resolve a troublesome nightmare, recurring or
not. But selecting the appropriate tool depends on what is actually
stimulating the nightmare to occur. There is no one-size-fits-all tool for
nightmare work. So, don't rely on that first hammer you bought, when what
you really need is a crowbar or a monkey wrench.

Linda Lane Magallón Dream Flights
http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html



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National Nightmare Hotline : Year Two

Jill Fischer

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1-866-DRMS911


On September 11, 2001 in response to the World Trade Center tragedy, Robert
Bosnak and Jill Fischer joined with ASD to create the National Nightmare
Hotline (1-866-DRMS911). Jill is the Executive Director of the hotline and
responsible for overseeing the efforts of 40 volunteer dream specialists
who cover phone lines 24 hours a day/seven days a week.

Now that the initial effects of this event have passed, we are pleased to
announce that The National Nightmare Hotline will remain a permanent
service. Skilled professionals will continue to be available on phones, 24
hours a day to debrief adults and children on their nightmares.

Nightmares have an enormous impact on all of us. They are ordinary events
after great traumatic disasters. Nightmares serve to digest the horrific
events. Just telling them to someone can have a positive effect on an
individual's sense of well being.

We have received 825 Calls to the Hotline as of September 15, 2002 and have
worked directly with 105 nightmares. Most callers find our hotline number
on the Internet and have indicated that the service is very helpful. The
fact that all volunteers have continued to make themselves available has
made this service a reality. We have not been inundated by requests and
many volunteers have merely been available but have not received calls.
This has actually made volunteering manageable and allowed for our on-going
service.

Please be aware, an article about the Hotline is in the August issue of
Hope Magazine . http://www.hopemag.com
The magazine features stories about people who are working for positive
change in the world.

To read the article go to:
https://www.hopemag.com/issues/2002/septOct/signsfieldingdreams.htm

To thank volunteers for their commitment to the hotline, we provides
callers, who want to work on their dreams, with a Dreamworkers Referral
List. It is a list of all our volunteers who have indicated they are
available for referrals. Thus, when a caller to the hotline expresses the
desire to continue exploring their dreams, he/she is be given the name of
dreamworkers in their respective area of the country. The dreamworker who
receives the referral is then free to establish his or her individual way
to work with the caller.

This hotline, is NOT a counseling line. If desired, a dreamer is referred
to a counselor after discussing their nightmare(s).

The hotline has remained viable because of your generous donations. We will
continue to welcome offers, no matter how small, that help support this
public service.


Please send your tax deductible donations to:

The Association for the Study of Dreams (ASD)
Attn: Susan Moreno, Office Manager
PO Box 1592
Merced, California 95341-a592

Write on your checks:

National Nightmare Hotline

phone: (209) 724-0889
ASDCentralOffice@...

Electronic billing is also available through PayPal. At the ASD website
www.asdreams.org It is a secure system that will allow you to donate with a
credit card or transfer funds directly from your bank.

You can also send your e-mail request to: ASDCentralOffice@... and you
will receive complete instructions about how to proceed.

We would appreciate your informing friends and associates that this hotline
is available. Forward to your e-mail lists and/or print and distribute our
flyer (located at the bottom of this page) where people might benefit.


______________________________________________


Volunteering Your Services

Skilled and experienced dreamworkers and Psychotherapists are needed to be
available on telephones, for one, three hour shift, once a week to debrief
adults and children on their nightmares.

Please send the following to:
webmaster@...

1. The three hour shift you would be available to answer telephones.
(Please indicate specific days of the week and hours).
2. Your telephone no.
3. The full address of that number.
4. The contact person at that number.
5. Your e-mail address.
6. A three line overview of your relevant experience.

We will then contact you with all the particulars.

Please be advised that we are looking for professional volunteers who have
professional degrees &/or liability insurance.



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Nightmares and Dreamwork Resources Online:
The ASD Nightmare Page

Richard Wilkerson

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After 9-11 the reports by so many people of nightmares and questions to the
ASD bulletin board about what to do about them, ASD developed the Nightmare
Page. Below is an annotated index of this resource. Here is the phone
hotline:
Nightmare Hotline : 1-866-DRMS911

Recommended Reading on Nightmares

ASD Nightmare FAQ - Common Questions
http://www.asdreams.org/subidxedunightmares.htm
[Scheduled for updating by the Education Committee]

Guidelines for coping with Nightmares after Trauma. Patricia Garfield, Ph.D.
http://www.patriciagarfield.com/idx_library_nightmare_guidelines.htm


Article: Nightmare Remedies: Helping Your Children Tame The Demons of the
Night. Alan Siegel, Ph.D. and Kelly Bulkeley, Ph. D.
http://www.asdreams.org/magazine/articles/seigel98dreamcatching.htm

Article: Nightmares and What to Do About Them. Patricia Garfield, Ph.D.
http://www.patriciagarfield.com/idx_library_childs.htm


Article: Nightmares? Bad Dreams? Lucky You! D.R.E.A.M.S. Foundation
http://www.crhsc.umontreal.ca/dreamsfoundation/nightmr1.htm


Article: American Dreans: Nightmares and what to do about them. AARP Modern
Maturity.
http://www.modernmaturity.org/departments/2002/issues/0510_issues_a.html


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A Mini-Course for Clinicians and Trauma Workers on Posttraumatic
Nightmares. Alan Siegel, Ph.D.
http://www.asdreams.org/magazine/articles/seigel_nightmares.htm


Article: The Relationship of Dream Content and Changes in Daytime Mood in
Traumatized Vs. Non-Traumatized Children Raija-Leena Punamäki
http://www.asdreams.org/journal/articles/pukamamaki9-4.htm

Article: Freud and Jung on Nightmares. Tore Nielsen, Ph.D.Article:
http://www.crhsc.umontreal.ca/dreams/znm.htm

Overcoming Nightmares. Stephen LaBerge and Howard. Rheingold
http://www.lucidity.com/EWLD10.txt

Article: Dreams of Terror, Dreams of Healing. Robert Moss

Article: Dream Work & Collective Trauma - Unconscious Elements In Public
Debate. Jeremy Taylor
http://members.telocity.com/rcw666/ed-articles/jeremy_taylor_2001_decl_collectiv\
e_trauma.htm

Article: Working with Your Nightmares. Strephon Kaplan-Williams
http://dreamgate.com/skw/nightmares.htm


This is an ever-growing resource, so you if have a suggestion for that
page, send it to the Chair of the ASD Education Committee
http://www.asdreams.org/subidxprojectscommittees.htm




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Nightmares! New Approaches

by Richard Catlett Wilkerson

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Introduction

If you ever are brave enough to tell people you work with dreams, you
will soon be asked how to handle nightmares. This is a tricky spot to be in
as nightmares can sometimes be a signal that other things are wrong with
the body or mind and require a physician or therapists. On the other hand,
nightmares are really fairly common and seeing a professional is not always
the best course. I wrote this article for the Alternative Medicine forum
on America Online for those wishing to know more about this area, how to
determine the best course and the latest procedures and techniques used by
dreamworkers.


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Dream: "At first I was going to run like I have done before in other dreams
with this thing. The dark creature scared me and threatened to harm me, it
even seemed to know where I would hide. But this time I stood up to the
thing and demanded that it back off. To my surprise, the creature stopped
and sat up like a puppy, as if it were begging for a bone. I was flooded
with tears as I thought how lonely this creature must be." BK

Although this is a modern dream, it could well have been the dream of a
Senoi child, a semi-mythical tribe said to have shared dreams each morning.
The Senoi taught their children to confront nightmare monsters and even to
extract a gift from them in reparation. These techniques of nightmare
confrontation are now being employed and expanded by researchers to help
nightmare suffers around the world. Many of the processes can be used
safely by adults or parents with their children.

There are many scary events in life and in sleep that we refer to as
"nightmares" and it is important to distinguish between them. The most
common frightening events during sleep are nightmares, night terrors and
sleep paralysis. (ASD Nightmare faq quote)


Nightmares, Night Terrors or Sleep Paralysis?

Unpleasant dreams are not uncommon and may at times wake us up and be
called Nightmares. Nightmares are extreme reactions of negative feelings,
often with great amounts of fear, that occur during dreams and are recalled
upon awakening. Though more common in children, they can happen to anyone.
Children are often chased by animals and fantasy figures. Adults are often
chased by male adults. Generally they occur in the last part of the night
or sleep cycle. Contributing factors in the cause of nightmares include
illness, stress, troubled relationships and traumatic event. Ernest
Hartmann, a leading researcher in America on Nightmares has noted that some
personality types can be prone to nightmares. There seem to be natural or
early learned personality styles that produce dream people and thought
people. The thought people maintain thick boundaries between contexts, are
very focused and can shut dreaming memory out altogether. Dream people have
thin boundaries, are more sensitive, have a wider, softer focus and tend to
recall dreams very easily, sometime frightening dreams.


Traumatic events can trigger a long lasting series of recurrent
nightmares often diagnosed as part of PTSD, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
These nightmares are different in that they repeat the same scene over and
over for years. They are usually found in veterans, but other traumas may
also bring this about. These nightmare sufferers usually require
professional assistance. However, most of our nightmares (and other
unpleasant dreams) can be easily turned into positive experiences by new
techniques in dreamwork.


Night terrors are different from nightmares. First, they usually occur
during the first hour or two of sleep. It is not uncommon to hear the
person screaming or thrashing around. It is often hard to wake the sleeper
and they rarely remember anything. Children who have night terrors may also
sleepwalk or urinate in bed. Night terrors are not well understood, and
seem to come from a part of sleep that is rarely associated with dreams and
dreaming. By puberty, children usually stop having night terrors. Adults
having night terrors often are also leading very stressful lives. A
consultation with a physician may be useful if the night terrors are
frequent or especially disturbing, though often just talking about it or
making small changes in sleep routine is enough. One long term researcher
notes that "I have found that night terrors are often more disturbing and
stressful for the parents than the child."

Sleep paralysis is the experience of not being able to move. Often there is
a feeling of great weight on the chest making it hard to breath. Fantasy
and reality can mix, hallucinations may appear and loud buzzing noises,
vibrations and feelings of being touched or electrified. Sometimes the
person realizes they are dreaming and still can't wake up. Researchers feel
that sleep paralysis is really a partial awakening during REM or Rapid Eye
Movement Sleep, when the body is naturally parked off line. Messages from
the brain are stopped from entering the body and it is a natural condition
that occurs about ever 90 minutes of sleep. Since anxiety about the
situation occurs, adrenaline speeds up the body and people can even feel
that they are leaving their body. The recommendation by researcher Stephen
Laberge is simply to realize it is a dream that can't harm you and to
relax. Dreams that proceed from paralysis experiences are often quite
intense and wonderful.


Facing the Fear

The famous dream researcher Calvin Hall notes that Americans say more than
half of all reported dreams are unpleasant. Many researchers feel this is
due to the attitudes we carry with us to bed. What if, before going to bed
at night we brushed our attitude as well as our teeth?

This is just what both ancient and modern dreamworkers encourage. With the
application of a few simple techniques, we can nurture a dream garden of
delights and turn the worst monsters into friends and allies.

Some of the techniques are so simple that children can learn them. Ann
Sayre Wiseman teaches children in grade school how to confront Nightmares.
She has them first draw the monster or fear and then draw a solution. At
first children often shoot or destroy the monster, but later develop more
creative solutions like magic circles and cages, as well as complex problem
solving strategies. Representing the dream by drawing allows the children
time to dialogue with the fears, as well as empowering them to feel safe
and experiment with options to running away. These powers are carried over
into the night time dreams. One child who was plagued by a bear-like
monster reported that he was able to yell at the monster "Stop, why are you
chasing me?" The monster stopped chasing him and began crying that we was
just looking for someone to play with.

Jill Gregory has used similar techniques with grade school children by
getting them to stage the dream. She first has the children create a
costume for the dream monster, and then they get to "show and tell".
Gregory would further ask the children to come up with a more satisfying
solution to the dream. These stagings or dream dramas become a skill with
carries over into the dream world. One doesn't have to even explore the
symbolic meaning of the dream for these techniques to work.

Adults may practice the same techniques. The daytime practice sessions are
important, even when it seems silly. This is because our minds get into
habits, just like our bodies. If we have a pattern of running away, this
pattern has to be strongly connected with new options. Setting a mental or
verbal intention to try these options is an important step, but may not be
remembered in the panic of a nightmare as well as actual practice. Draw or
sculpt or dramatize the creature and clear options and reactions to being
assaulted.

If you don't have the time to draw or dramatize your dream, you may wish to
try dream-reentry. In dream reentry the dreamer becomes relaxed and begins
to recall the dream, to imagine re-entering the dream. However, if there is
some part of the dream that is unpleasant, the dreamer then imagines an
alternative solution. Laberge and other experts suggest the solution
involve something more creative than just wishing the problem away. Wishing
the problem away is a sneaky form of the same fear reaction of running away.

The model of bringing more consciousness to dreams that started with the
Senoi tribe and has been practiced by many modern researchers.

1. Do not flee from threatening dream characters. Confront them
courageously. Set limits. Ask for their name as a parent would ask a child
who was misbehaving what his or her name was.

2. Try to find a creative solution with the dream monster that satisfies
you both. If impossible, try to get the monster to look at the problem as a
mutual dispute. Refuse threats and insults, but recognize justified objections.

3. Never surrender to an attack by a dream figure. Take up a posture that
shows you will defend yourself. Stare them in the eye. If a fight is
unavoidable, try to overcome them but not kill them. Offer a reconciliation.

4. After reconciliation or stopping the dream figure, ask how they might be
able to help you. Or ask for a gift if they recognize they have been wrong
to torment you.

5. With children, it is very effective to teach them to call on a
super-hero friend or parent to help them in the dream.

Often people will share a nightmare or bad dream with a friend or relative.
If you are on the listening side, there are some simple skills you can use
to listen to the dreamer. Jeremy Taylor and Gayle Delaney have been
teaching these skills for years. They both see the nightmare as a gift
which can be unwrapped alone or with the help of someone else.

Jeremy Taylor uses a variation of the "If this were my dream..."
technique originally developed by the famous dreamworker Montague
Ullman. With the "If this were my dream..." approach, the listener at
first does just that, listens without interruption.

Then a few clarifying questions are asked, such as the color of a coat, or
the contents a box or the feeling in the dream at the time. Any question
that might call for an interpretation is avoided, such as "What do you
think the blue coat meant?"

Finally, the listener takes the dream as his or her own. John Herbert has
used this technique online and suggests that before every sentence the
thought "In my dream..." is kept in mind. Thus as a listener I might say
"In my dream, the blue coat reminds me of something to cover myself with,
as if I were cold." The dreamer may or may not see this meaning in their
own dream. By taking the dream as one's own, the dreamer needn't worry so
much about someone imposing meaning on the dream. Taylor feels that we
should keep in mind that all dreams, even nightmares, come in the service
of healing and health. Any interpretation that does not serve this view is
simply wrong and inappropriate.

Gayle Delaney, one of the founding parents of the Association for the
Study of Dreams, suggests abandoning interpretations altogether. Delaney
has developed a dream interview system that allows a listener to ask
questions about a person's dreams without getting involved in suggesting
meanings at all.

Like Taylor, she recommends that the first step is careful listening,
showing empathy without interruption and allowing the dreamer to feel
comfortable.

She then suggests diagraming the dream. This involves outlining the major
actions, people, objects/animals/monsters and feelings. The dreamer is then
invited to describe without interpreting each of these elements to the
listener as if the listener were from Mars or another planet. This way,
usual assumptions are bypassed and the dreamer can explain and explore the
dream imagery more deeply.

The listener can summaries and repeat or condense these and feed them back
to the dreamer so the dreamer feels sure the listener has accurately heard
the dream.

The listener can then encourage the dreamer to make bridges to waking life.
How are each of these elements like something in the dreamer's life?

Usually this can be done by generalizing the function of the image. If its
a refrigerator, its a place to keep things cool, and where in my life do I
keep things cool? If its a car without breaks, where in my life are there
things in motion that I can't stop? Finally, the interviewer might ask if
there are alternatives. If my life is like a car without breaks, how would
I like it differently?



Lucid Dreaming and Nightmares

"I believe the best place to deal with unpleasant dreams is in their own
context, in the dream world. We create our nightmares out of the raw
material of our own fears. Fears are expectations--why would we fear
something we thought would never happen?" Stephen Laberge

In part II we discussed techniques you can practice before going to sleep
or after waking up. But note one item here, while dream monsters may
frighten you emotionally, they are after all just dreams. If you realized
it was a dream, while you were dreaming, then what could harm you?

In some ways, when we wake up, a similar reaction occurs. We realize it is
a dream. But researchers have found that this is not the best or most
satisfying approach:

"'Escaping' from a nightmare by awakening only suppresses your conscious
awareness of the anxiety-provoking imagery. You may feel a certain relief,
but like the prisoner who digs through his prison wall and finds himself in
the cell next door, you haven't really escaped." Laberge & Rheingold

Finding a creative resolution is even easier when we realize that it is a
dream and we continue dreaming. This is what is called "lucid dreaming".

Lucid dreaming occurs spontaneously in many dreamers, but it is also a
technique that can be learned. Though not as easy as the previous
techniques, it is often more fulfilling and worth the effort to many
dreamers. Though lucid dreaming became an object of investigation in the
19th Century, its popular scientific status was not obtained until the late
1970's, when Stephen Laberge was able to demonstrate lucid dreaming in
laboratory conditions. This rise into mainstream science allowed others to
bring their research on lucidity and nightmares to the public.

Lucid dreaming researchers now have a variety of programs and techniques
for learning to have lucid dreams and it has become one of the most popular
topics on the Internet in the venues that discuss dreams. Lucid dreaming
is now even taught to children.

Techniques for increasing the frequency of lucid dreams vary with the
individual. There are many combinations of methods that work for many
people. Here are some ideas based on *Lucid Dreamer's Quick Reference* by
Lars Spivock:

* Throughout the day, ask yourself "Am I Dreaming?" and imagine something
wonderful you could be doing in your dream - this is your dream goal. Use
your watch or something you notice often as a reminder to ask. Limit
excitement, food, drink, and exercise for several hours before bedtime.
Drinking plain water, sex, and small amounts of caffeine may be beneficial.

* Arrange your dream space with inspirational items. Keep your journaling
materials, writing or taping, bedding, and blinds in good working
order. In the hour before sleep, have only relaxing thoughts and
activities. Write the date and your goal dream in your journal. Just before
sleep, with your eyes closed, review your goal dream and affirm to wake up
after each dream.

* As you awaken from a dream, memorize it in detail before you open your
eyes or change your body position. Record it in your journal. If you are
not ready to fall back asleep, get up and do something for a while.

* As you fall back asleep, repeatedly imagine your last dream, recognizing
that you are dreaming and guiding the outcome. Your continuation of the
dream may involve boldly confronting an adversary. You can transform
yourself into any object, animal or human role. You can transform someone
or something else in the dream. You can apply elements from your goal dream.

* When you recognize you are dreaming, calmly enjoy the unfolding of the
dream. Optionally perform a reality test by levitating and calmly begin
guiding the outcome. When your lucidity begins to fade away, spin your
dream body and affirm to start your goal dream when lucidity returns.

* Favor waking up to birdsongs instead of an alarm radio set to the news.
Upon waking, keep your eyes closed and remain motionless for a few minutes
while reviewing your dreams from the night before. Then make your journal
entries, even if only fragments.

Have a relaxed attitude of acceptance towards the outcome. Sooner or later
you will be rewarded with better dream recall and wonderful dreams.

Here are some ideas for goal dreams. You supply the important specific
details to suit yourself:

entertainment - fly to the moon or travel through time
romance - have a romantic encounter
healing - heal yourself or someone else
problem solving - solve a work-related or social problem
creativity - create a work of art
spirituality - talk to god
enlightenment - learn about yourself of the unconscious
out of body - visit another place or someone elses's dream
self-indugence - gluttony or shopping binges
sleep - end nightmares or dreamining dreams

The techniques of becoming lucid require some attention and practice for
most people. A whole array of technology has now sprung up to assist with
this process. Most of them work on the same principle. A mask of some kind
is worn during sleep. The mask will detect when the sleeper enters REM or
Rapid Eye Movement Sleep and send a signal. This signal is usually light or
light and sound that is adjusted to be strong enough to enter into the
dream but not so strong as to wake the dreamer. As you can imagine, the
adjustment period may take some time. Next the dreamer must practice
learning to recognize the light and sounds as a signal and not just
incorporate the noise as a dream traffic light or alarm clock. All these
technologies are for assistance only, and need to be combined with other
instructional programs.


PRESCRIPTIONS FOR NIGHTMARES

Once you are lucid in a threatening dream situation, there are a wide
variety of paths to choice from. Laberge and Rheingold suggest the following:

1. Theme: Being pursued
Response: Stop running. Turn to face the pursuer. This is in itself may
cause the pursuer to disappear or become harmless. If not, try starting a
conciliatory dialog with the character or animal.

2. Theme: Being attacked
Response: Don't give in meekly to the attack or flee. Show your readiness
to defend yourself and then try to engage the attacker in a conciliatory
dialog. Alternatively, find acceptance and love in yourself and extend this
towards the threatening figure (see Chapter 11).

3. Theme: Falling
Response: Relax and allow yourself to land. The "old wives' tale" is
false--you will not really die if you hit the ground. Alternatively, you
can transform falling into flying.

4. Theme: Paralysis
Response: When you feel trapped, stuck or paralyzed, relax. Don't allow
anxiety to overcome your rationality. Tell yourself you are dreaming and
the dream will soon end. Let yourself go along with any images that appear
or things that happen to your body. None of it will hurt you. Adopt an
attitude of interest and curiosity about what happens.

5. Theme: Being unprepared for an examination or speech
Response: First of all, you don't need to continue with this theme at all.
You can leave the exam or lecture room. However, you might enhance your
self-confidence in such situations by creatively answering the test
questions or giving a spontaneous talk on whatever topic suits you. Be sure
to enjoy yourself. When you wake up, you may want to ask yourself whether
you should actually prepare for a similar situation.

6. Theme: Being naked in public
Response: Who cares in a dream? Have fun with the idea. Some find being
naked in a lucid dream erotically exciting. If you wish, have everyone else
in the dream remove their clothes. Remember, modesty is a public convention.


Summary on Nightmare Help

While lucid dreaming allows us to control our dreams, it is difficult for
some to learn and may not deal with the underlying causes. Dream
exploration, keeping a dream journal or sharing dreams with others are
often enough and a good practice whether one is having nightmares or not.
Learning confrontation techniques and lucid dream techniques will further
help nightmare sufferers and empower ourselves and our children in waking
life as well. If the nightmare persists or reoccurs, it may be time to
discuss this with a physician, especially since some drugs, medication and
illnesses can be a contributing cause of nightmares.

It is useful to encourage young children to discuss their nightmares with
their parents or other adults, but they generally do not need treatment.
Having the child draw the nightmare, talk with the frightening characters,
fantasize changes in the nightmare or learn to call on dream protectors and
dream parents will help the child feel safer and less frightened.

Ernest Hartmann has noted how the dream state is like therapy in two
special ways, they both are a safe place to make connections. Dreams will
play with everything we do and feel and it makes connections with a wide
variety thoughts, feeling and memories. Some of these connections are bound
be uncomfortable for us. But to the degree we can see and make our dreams
the safe place that they are, is the degree to which these dream worlds
will unfold their treasures and the dream monsters will reveal their gifts.


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Becoming Nightmare:
the Rhizomatics of Dreaming.

Richard Catlett Wilkerson

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There is a lot of jargon in this file that may be cleared up if you read my
article on Deleuze and Guattari's postmodern philosophy,
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/articles_rcw/deleuze98.htm

In general, this article questions the overly-quick response we generally
have to nightmares. That is, we generally respond to them by treating them
as an illness to be gotten rid of at any cost. What if the cost is that we
are blocked from the deeper transformations available in life?

I.

Signs and Subject, all well greased and in place. All social/familial
taboos in operation. All tasks of production and consumption completed and
finally Brian goes to sleep. Some time later that night Brian awakes, too
frightened to scream, heart pounding and he is on some kind of roller
coaster ride in a land without gravity. Brian just had a nightmare.

There has been a break in the flow and the insertion of a nightmare machine
in the factory of the unconscious. It shreds its way through signification
(what is what) and subjectification (who is who). The usual codes have
unraveled, and the flow of de-coded signs circulate in things that are only
themselves. Brian' ears are red and buzzing, and he wonders why they are on
his foot. He hears an old voice of a therapist asking what he thinks the
ear on the foot represents, and now he knows the therapist must be mad,
speaking about what the falling mast might mean symbolically as another
wave pushes his ship under the swell. Both a breakthrough and a breakdown
of a world that revolves around the subject. Now the subject is whirled
around. "Around" may not be the right word, as around implies a center and
there is no center here, only falling.

Standard wisdom dictates that we move away from offensive and frightening
scenes. These reactions keep us out of trouble, keep our hands from being
burned by the stove, keep germs off our food, keep our bones from being
broken by cars and rocks at the bottom of cliffs. However, this aversion
reaction also keeps us in line and in alignment with early training that
may no longer be valid. Taboos may be said to function in the same way.
There are boundaries we are taught not to transgress, or there will be
"Hell to pay!" But were these boundaries put into place by a perfect
parent, guardian or teacher? Unlikely. And in a society whose parameters
and values change at an unparalleled pace, one's value programs need to be
upgraded more than once a generation.

In fact, this is the classic definition of the neurotic. The neurotic is a
person who encounters offensive, frightening scenes and backs away. We all
do this, but the neurotic will keep backing away until there is no further
back to go, becoming deeply compressed within themselves, and no longer
venturing out the front door, no longer touching anything without washing
their hands, no longer peering over steep cliffs or into foreign eyes.

Societies too become neurotic, become paranoid, and then begin trying to
control everything, the media, the way children are raised, what we eat and
drink, who we talk to and when. Modern societies have tried to do away with
these tyrannical systems, but in doing so have not replaced them with
anything, and so our values have become confused, conflicted, fickle. One
group tries to save trees, and another tries to save the jobs so they can
feed their family. The higher, synthetic truth that will bring together
opposites is harder and harder to find. When people don't have an inner
value to call on, they look around, see what the neighbors are doing, and
follow suite. There is no real inner status, so outward signs of status
become increasingly important to stabilize life in the flux.

Dreamworkers have always been aware of this condition of the retreating
self/society and the machines that keep it in place. Spiritual dreamwork
discusses these issues in terms of enlightenment and salvation. That is,
there is a veil of illusion we call our lives, and the paths that allow us
to transcend these illusions. Psychological dreamwork discusses these
illusions in terms of neurosis and psychosis, and the appropriate level of
challenges and supports are set up to allow the individual to make choices
from places other than overwhelming affective/emotional states. Postmodern
dreamwork addresses these illusions more as social constructs and looks for
ways to subvert repressive forces and open up creative lines of escape. In
this view, the nightmare is not something for the subject to escape from,
but a path to escape the neurotic subject.

II.

What are those gaps in the dream, those shifting scenes of the dream?

There are many ways the flow of life gets organized. We have organs, skin,
bones, thoughts, behaviors. But the flow and flux of life could have been
organized differently, and the particular configurations organized around
physical and psychological bodies, material and social bodies, can also be
not so organized without falling into total chaos, the can align themselves
around a body without organs.

The self passes through various states as it (they) rolls around the body
without organs. Some of these states are quite discontinuous. Freud and
Jung both addressed this discontinuity. They knew it was more than a lapse
in brain activation.

Interestingly, recently, the REM theory of dreaming collapsed. In 1953,
Aserinsky, a grad student of Nathaniel Kleitmann, found that when you waken
a person whose eyes were moving rapidly during sleep, they tended to recall
dreams. Eventually the REM cycle was found to be fairly regular and that it
activated parts of the neo-cortex through fairly random neural bursts.
Since then, Alan Hobson and his friends have insisted that dreaming is
simply the sleepy mind dealing with these random firings and gaps are times
when there are pauses in this activation.

Over the last few years, a whole new picture began to emerge from the
studies of a neurosurgeon who followed the dreams of patients with brain
damage. Mark Solms noted that the activation sequences that the brain
needed to dream (or more accurately, to recall dreams) was *independent* of
the REM activation. Oh, REM brain stem activation got this new Dream-On
sequence going at times ( a spiral like activation that cycles through our
motivation centers, our spacio-temporal-imaginal centers, our higher visual
centers) but so did other things, and once activated, it follows its own
independent activation.

But all organization that is representational will lead back to the forces
that are binding content, and all the content will be interpreted from the
view of these forces. Large organized molar aggregates scrap and fight
about territory all the time. But when this occurs over millions of years,
brain structures get pushed to the limit and turn into revolutions.

Dream discontinuity here becomes more a matter of intersecting lines
disrupting the subject of a synthesis of micro-connecters that both break
into old flows and create new flows. At least from the point of view of the
body without organs.

The body without organs. Imagine a body that has not been organized into
brains, hearts, genitals, legs, arms, skin. A body like this has no real
interior, there are just flows, almost a perverse polymorphic distribution
of intensities that offer a smooth surface around which the dynamics of the
subjects, the objects, the affects, the cognitions, the forces of
production and consumption travel, not in paths where the end is known, but
in partial paths, in trajectories. An egg, crisscrossed by forces,
dynamics, vectors. As we approach the surface of this egg, the intensity
drops to zero and everything begins to slide.

In waking life, the ego uses narrative bridges to compensate for this
discontinuity. Even when we wake up, the technique for learning dream
recall is journalling.

But when sleeping, the access to the neurotransmitters that allow identity
structures to rigidly hold together and produce grids, thereby
reterritorializing dominate cultural axiomatics, disappear. That is, the
dream state is full of narratives and subjects, feelings and thoughts,
repressions and productions, and these work in a way that is unfamiliar to
the subject, who upon waking may recall a "dream" but in fact is only
recalling a few slices, the one it can piece together as a story.

Disjunctions appear as gaps between dreams because the subject relates to
them from its experiential story-frame. Deterritorializations may be
experienced as apocalyptic or may be seen as loss of consciousness. Each
dream story, while it is being produced, is like a child playing on a train
track, and a track at the intersection of infinite vortices. The subject
consumes the dream as narrative, but can only rarely use that narrative
structure to reterritorialize its identity. Again, probably due on the
bio-chemical level to the dissolving or wavey grid of control that occurs
during dreaming. (Interestingly activated first by the very spot that
leucotomies -earlier called lobotomies - are performed, ie dopamine,
active-producing, connecting, interest-producing, action-producing,
desiring centers).

Gaps in the Dream. Freud saw them as a cover-up, but one in which a sharp
mind could follow back by association, to a source. Oedipus gouging out his
eyes, then retracing the steps of the crime. Whether one goes for the
theory of being able to recover authorial intention or not, the process,
free association, did emerge as a skill by which the subject could begin to
produce his/her own streams and new lines of escape.

Jung, in his charming Hegelian way, saw the gap as a portal being held open
by two unreconcilable opposites, two things that the ego just could not let
go of, yet could not have, two horrors, two beasts in eternal struggle for
one reality they could never both consciously inhabit. Through this portal
held by the struggle emerged the uncanny transcendent.

OK, perhaps its just another tyrant awakening in the desert and slinking
off to Bethlehem, but when the dream becomes one of many sites where the
intolerable may first occur to us, where the organized molar limit produces
micro-molecular cracks and bleeds the brood of the night, then here there
is a factory that produces the un-containable rupture across which the
nomad may skate.

III.

Like desire (and madness) dreams seem to be the most powerful when they
bring us into contact with radical otherness. Daniel brings Nebruchanezer
into contact with a dream that transforms the religions of Babylon. Joseph
brings Pharaoh into contact with a dream that alters the state of Egypt.
_Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde_ is written after a Robert Lewis Stevenson
encounters his own Hyde in a dream. Freud and Jung encounter desire and
madness in dreams and create and alter the course of psychotherapy.

This radical otherness is better characterized as a continual process of
becoming other, which begins in the desire to escape bodily limitations.
These limitations can be both cultural as well as natural. To regress back
to representations for a moment, in dreams we often find ourselves up
against our own cultural and psychophysical limit-expectations. We stop at
red lights in our car in a dream. We open dream doors instead of floating
through them. We walk upstairs and eat meals. Yet in other dreams we fly,
we breath water, we walk through walls, men become women, we can be several
identities at once, we become animals and crooks, we have sex with taboo
people and inanimate objects.
And perhaps most radically, we stop being we. I am not the center of my
dream, but just one trajectory intersecting the dream.


*zzzzz* Desire as productive, creating breaks in the flow and connecting
one desiring machine to another.

*zzzzz* Dreams/nightmares as productive, and what they are producing and
how does this work? Careful, does each dream produce a singularity, or can
we abstract and generalize since we have all been caught in the same habits
of western culture?

*zzzzz* Dreams/nightmares in their different phases of deterritorialization
of subjective space, their territorialization of brain space, the
teterritorialization of ?

*zzzzz* If you must remain psychoanalytic, how about a slight shift?
Instead of seeing nightmares as a failure of the censor, what happens if we
posit that the nightmare is a deflection of something so ungraspable that
it can only be said to be a successful censoring of that experience.

*zzzzz* Dreams/Nightmares as ruptures between the binary thinking of
conscious/unconscious, wake/sleep, aware/not aware, here/not here?

*zzzzz* What might have young Felix or Gilles have thought to themselves
when they first had to tackle Descartes Dream problem about reality and
knowing?

*zzzzz* How might the dream/nightmare be seen as a co-patriot of
disfamiliarization?

In ancient Delphi, people would sleep on the steps of the temple of Apollo,
seeking (incubating) the dream that would allow them access to the oracle
inside. Mythically, this access to the truth was a later imposition of
Apollo on a pre-Greek people who practiced dance and rites that were
assigned by the Greeks to Dionysos. Pan is one of his entourage and was
said to have taught Apollo dream work at Delphi. In the Dionysian groups,
the questions or problems, if that is what they really were, were danced
along the hillsides and meadows and involved transformations in ecstasy.
This moving-into may be distinguished from Apollo's seeing-from afar. With
the dominance of Apollo, the dramas were all contained in the amphitheater
and the ecstasies relocated to the dream (and the one oracle, who was
imprisoned in the center of the temple and surrounded by the priests who
did all the interpreting of visions and dreams). This same set-up was found
in the cult of Asklepios (Aesculapius in Latin). At these popular dream
healing sanctuaries the amphitheater was ever near the spa. The patients
would be cured when they encountered Asklepios or one of his family or
animals in a dream. The becoming other, so to speak, was limited to
particular containing vessels. Still, Dionysos is seen as Apollo's dark
brother and has his own months where he is still the god at Delphi.

Like Dionysos, the nightmare remains nomadic subject, the free autonomous
subject which exists momentarily in an ever shifting array of possibilities
as desiring machines distribute flows across the body without organs.






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This issue includes volume #528 - #569

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Message: 528-001
Subject: the dead well

Dream: a few older people and I were all standing around a well. There was
a scooba diver already inside the well. Aparently some one had fallen in
and was drowning. the scooba diver came back out of the water and reported
that the boy was in different rooms(I can't remember the exact #'s) of
floor 2 or 3. So inside the well was either a hotel or an apartment
building that had been flooded. I saw what seemed to have been some kind of
flashback then...There was a robber inside some one's house and no one was
there except 2 children, a young boy and girl. The theif was threatening
the girl but she kicked him in between the legs and then stabbed him with a
type of knife you use to gut a dear. she then cut him all the way down his
belly. all the sudden i was back to the well, all alone. And there infront
of me stood(or floated i should say) the dead boy inside the well. He told
me alot but all i can remember is that he said he wasn't the only one down
there, that there were alot! more. he wasn't grusome looking but still you
could tell he was dead. next thing i know he is gone and some ppl are
pulling a grose old man out of the water. we were nxt at an old filthy
hospital and the old man's head was swollen. they pushed him on a gurney
but they ran into a door and he fell off and his mouth began to overflow
with blood. after that i was standing next to a young woman. she explained
ot me that she wasn't scared of the water because she always kept a light
underneath her pillow and that the light was also a video camera, so that
ne thing that happened to her would be recorded. then i woke up.

Comments: I wanted to cry after i woke up, this dream was very real and
very scary. ne ideas would be appreciated! tinx!~SNT~

Comments: 528-002, 528-003
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Message: 528-002 [528-001]
Subject: Re: the dead well

All this crime (kidnappings, murdered children, terrrorism) could be
getting to you. It's starting to get to me, too. And that camera under the
pillow thing sounds like a good idea. My grandpa grew up on the south side
of chicago, where there's a lot of crime, and someone even attacked his
mother once. He's a human motion detector, he can tell you every morning
how many times you got up in the night and what time each incident occured.
He can't mentally force himself to sleep unless his door is open. He also
sleeps very light, and not very often at all. He considers himself "the
protector". He feels it's his duty since he's the only man in the house.
You'll be surprised what people will do to prevent MORE break-ins, but no
one bothers to think about it until it's already happened to the neighbors.
This is my philosophy: If you weren't worried about it before, you
shouldn't be worried about it now. Though crime rates go up and down now
and then, nothing about robberies or murders has changed since the peaceful
1950's ended, people are just watching the news more because of the war.
You just relax and take it easy.
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Message: 528-003 [528-001]
Subject: Re: the dead well

thnx 4 the help. i'll think about it some more. it kinda does make sense.
thnx again...snt
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Message: 529-001
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Message: 530-001
Subject: Strange

dream_title: Strange
dream_date: 7/18/02
dreamer_name: WHAT?!?!?!

dream_text: ok..its a continues dream...ok im like a spirit killer or
something..and i can summon a tower/platform in mid air and my dad works
oon it..and his 'BOSS' puts something in it but me(brad) and my
friend(jake) know its a bomb!so i have jus moved and this dream takes place
in my old town but then half the town isnt right it is like in an older era
we didnt have a police station and NOW we did!so we being chased by the
cops and we trying to get my tools back so i can summon the platform and
get the bomb out!but the people can see it!! the tool looks like this:

[ed.note: image missing]

| dont ask why! but i remember running thru my house and my dad says 'what
u doing?' and i say 'me and jake are running from the police' and he says
'ok have fun' and we run out the back door and jake keeps running but i
trip and i woke up right when i hit the ground and ever since i havent had
the dream:( i want to know what happens!

dream_comments: I NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AND WHAT IT MEANS:(!

Comments: 530-004
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Message: 530-002
Subject: old friend

dream_title: old friend
dream_date: 06/27/02

dream_text: An old friend pops up in town after a few years. I few months i
was expose to be married and then we started to talk and going out and I
knewn that he liked me from grade school and high school. As soon as we
started getting serious/ he leaves me for the first lady that he was with.....

dream_comments: He cancelled his wedding after talking to my mother and his
parents are rooting for me. but i am so scared to talk to him i wrote hime
and told him how I felt and stuff and then from there we talk and stuff but
I was getting mix signals from him. SO what should I do. we are good
friends I think things changed over the years....

Comments: 530-003
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Message: 530-003 [530-002]
Subject: Re: old friend

We all have loves in our lives that we dream about now and then. I just had
one of those dreams this morning. And like you, I woke up feeling the urge
to contact him. But a few minutes later I realized why I stopped talking to
him in the first place and became very angry about that dream. The mind
tortures, but the heart heals. I don't know the whole situation with this
guy, but my advice to you isn't to go by what his family thinks. He's a
grown man with a mind of his own, and if he cancelled a wedding he might
not want a relationship at all. You need to be blunt and tell him your
feelings. If he rejects you, you'll get over it and those dreams won't
result in so many old feelings.
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Message: 530-004 [530-001]
Subject: Re: Strange

Dear WHAT?!?

One way to find out what happens is to meditate upon the dream as you're
falling asleep and let it take you to its conclusion. Interesting that you
illustrated it. I f you're really into drawing you could draw it out like a
comic strip and let the conclusion suggest itself to you in art form.
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Message: 531-001
Subject: Working Together.

dream_title: Working Together.
dream_date: ?
dreamer_name: GHOSTHunter

dream_text: This dream happened long ago I cannot remember all that has
happened but I will give it a try.

I am walking down a street at night with a friend "Jill" (not her real
name, this is because I am sure she would not like to use her name here).
Well, either way, we are walking down this street at home in Calgary,
Canada and we are talking about something ( I cannot remember what, it was
something about relationships I think) and then I hold her tight against me
by holding her waist. We then reach this arsen sight and for some reason we
are there to help solve what has happened.

As we are working together, "Jill" tells me something, I respond on how I
have no idea why I am here and am not trained to do anything. This is where
the dream ends.

dream_comments: I have no idea on what this dream represents and if anyone
does, email me at ghost2k90@... (please do so, I want to know this
dream meant). Thanks.
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Message: 531-002
Subject: Jesus asking me the thing I love very much

dream_title: Jesus asking me the thing I love very much
dream_date: 14 july 2002
dreamer_name: Noreen

dream_text: I was with my best friend (a girl) and we both saw that Jesus
has appeared in front of us and we are so surprised that we are sinner how
can it be possible, we asked each other is He really Jesus? my friend said
yes He is. Jesus also assured us that this is Me, then he asked me the
thing I love very much, I took out the gold ring from my finger and gave to
Jesu but he refused and said I need your best friend who is with you.

dream_comments: 12 July was my birthday, I was expecting telephone call
from my boyfriend who live 1500Km far from me, he could not call. next day
he called n i got angry with him and shared my doubts about his love
towards me( according to him he loves me very much-which is true)he ask me
to do the things which are good for both of us but i refuse, I took a
decision but shared to him as a proposal to ask his opinion for that, he
suggested not to take this step in any case. (as I had already taken the
step and told lie to him)I do check time by time with strange questions to
check if he really loves me. I want him to follow my will instead of
following his will or openions. The same day when he called me at night 14
July I saw this dream. Please give me answer I am much worried. I love very
much my frien and some are telling me that she is going to die soon.
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Message: 531-003
Subject: Falling

dream_title: Falling
dream_date: 7-23-02

dream_text: I can not remember it all because I have not made it a habit
yet to write my dreams down as soon as I wake up. I was with my friends and
we were in a strange place like a dessert kind of but there were mountains
lots of them,and we were looking for something I dont know what, but we
started climbing the mountain and we kept getting higher and higher. It
wasnt like walking up a mountain either I mean like hands and feet
climbing, some of us almost fell because of how windy it was. I kept
remembering my terrible fear of heights and I went higher to the top and
when I got there I could see the other side and everyone came and looked
and there were tons of trees and a little town. The next thing I know I was
walkin in grass to the other side and all the sudden I fell and i was
rolling very fast to a stone arch and they came running after me to try to
save me. I finally stopped and my friends caught up with me and I was lying
on the ground and there was this women there next to the arch and she was
saying something, I couldnt make it out. Then someone said she is going to
blow up and she did, she was made of stone, I jumped in my sleep and woke up.

dream_comments: I dont know what they mean or why I have ones like this but
I cant stop thinking about them and I would like you to tell me what they mean.
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Message: 531-004
Subject: The Devil vs GOD/ Ribbons in the field!

dream_title: The Devil vs GOD/ Ribbons in the field!
dream_date: July 23,2002
dreamer_name: Donatelo

dream_text:
(First Dream)- I Dreamed I was in a where house with a very evil man who
was trying very hard to scare me and break my spirit. I witnessed him abuse
an old lady, and I felt it was my obligation to save her from him. The
pastor of Fremont Assembly of God appeared to me very young and very
glowing, so Glowing I couldn't see past the light that shined around him
(he was surrounded by two other men-Perhaps angels in appearance of man). I
pleaded with God before the Pastor, feeling God is working through him, and
in tears I told God to forgive me of my sins, so he blessed me and said for
me that he will grant me strength during these hard times. I confronted the
evil man that represented the devil who too wanted my soul, and cursed him
back with much profanity and cuss words. So I left him alone, and found
myself in my parents old home, seeing my parents young again, as I closed
the shades in the front room, I noticed the it was raining outside, and the
payment wet. (I could smell the wet payment)- Then I returned to get the
old woman back to safety and grabbed her out of the evil mans arms, and he
said I couldn't have her - so he grabbed her out of my arms, and then I
told the devil "I will come back to get you what you deserve" I learned
that the Devil was afraid of my strength and faith in GOD! And the old lady
knew I would return for her.
(Second Dream)- I went on a long journey and noticed people laying down in
this huge amusment park (I noticed Truck drivers using this amusement park
as a rest area). My husband was with me, we walked together with a man who
resembled an angel (old man)- he brought us to a land of many cots
scattered through this vast green field! The cots were in many colors and
in the art form of a ribbon (cots made out of a rubber mat with a spongy
metal support underneith it so they would last and no one can steal them
out of the ground). Many ribbons that pictured award ribbons to lie down
on. Ribbons in striped and flowery bright colors, ribbons representing for
mothers, and fathers. It was amazing the many beautiful colors of so many
of these ribbons to see, and to lie down on. So me and my husband lie down
together trying to pick out a nice ribbon that represents ourselves, I
picked a ribbon with an award metal on it, and it was deep purple or blue,
and my husband lays on a striped ribbon. I turned to my husband (as Music
is playing in the backround, like elevator music) I said to my
husband,"where are we, are we in the state of Washington?" My husband
responded, "Maybe?" I said within my thoughts (we're in Heaven!)

dream_comments: Went to bed after eating a full plate of pasta. 2nd dream -
I returned to bed after using the bathroom.
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Message: 531-005
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Message: 532-001
Subject: (unknown)

Salam alikom This is the first time to think of writing down a dream of mine.

I was in a club or a public area, it was daylight, i was on a Wheelchair,
all i needed to do is to show all people around that i became paralyzed , i
was going on that rouming around with my wheelchair as if am trying to tell
all about what had happend to me.. the point is that i was proud that its
an Electric modern chair (not just like any other ordinary wheelchair). i
was wondering how does it feel when you are paralyzed!!! i was asking
myselfe "won't i be able to put my feet on the ground and wake up if i
tried to??" and was replying to myself "this is the point when you are
paralyzed, u won't be able to move your feet or stand up" and i was
reluctant to stand up coz. i was afraid to take that shock when i know for
sure that am not anymore able to walk.


that was my dream, i think i know what was it about, but your comments will
surly add more to me.
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Message: 533-001
Subject: tornadoes/hurricanes

dream_title: tornadoes/hurricanes
dream_date: 7-25-02
dreamer_name: anonymous

dream_text: in one night i have two dreams, one is a tornado dream which i
am not hurt, but am terrified of it. the other, a hurricane. both of which
i am in a house, but i am never hurt.

dream_comments: a friend said a hurricane dream means someone in real life
is conspiring against me and means me harm (as in my maring my reputation
in my company, or to get me removed at my job). what do you think?

Comments:533-002
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Message: 533-002 [533-001]
Subject: Re: tornadoes/hurricanes

That friend of yours sounds like he or she has serious issues. Your dream
demonstrates your ability to get through the worst crisis, no matter how
scary it is. It was a dream to boost your self-esteem and stop you from
being nervous about your life. If anything, it was the opposite of what
your friend said.
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Message: 533-003
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Message: 533-004
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Message: 533-005
Subject: the end of the world

dream_title: the end of the world
dream_date: augest 14, 1992
dreamer_name: popdiva

dream_text: It was A warm nice day I was getting the kids off to school and
I told My Husband that there is something wrong he said I was being
paranoid so ibrushed it of but when I turnd on the T.V the T.V went blank
and across the screen it said America has been evated and to get your kids
and take cover my husband and I got in the car but we when we tried to leve
the road was blocked,so we had to get out and run down the street for 6
blockes to get our kids out of school. As we run there was havek all over
the streets Isaw people beating each othere and and jumping out of windows
we made to the school and got the kid swe were able to get out of town and
I fell asleep and when I woke up there were airplanes landing all over the
filds I told my husband that we are being invaded by forin allies we need
to take cover we went into the mountins where we found shealter and safty
from the war that was going on I heard over the radeo that president bush
declared war and to push the red but He said my god be with us all then
everthing went dead. Itold my parents and husband that It dosent matter
where we are everyone is going to die we all walked out on a fild and we
came across a fince when we got there I told everyone to holed on tight and
all the adultes gathere around the kids do not look at the bright light, I
looked up for a moment and I saw my familys flesh just mealt right of there
bodys then I woke up.

dream_comments: I dont Know what it ment but cherise what you have instead
of what you dont because in a moments time it can be taken away from you
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Message: 534-001
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Message: 535-001
Subject: talking infant

dream_title: talking infant
dream_date: recently
dreamer_name: -psychonaut

dream_text: all I can remember is that I was in the back of a vehicle on a
multi laned freeway. The sky was blue and the clouds were wispy. I was
holding onto the baby and it was trying to hold the baby, but it was so
strong and it just wanted to get out of my arms. I think i was trying to
protect it from some people in a car beside us. It kept on struggling and
squirming. And then it stopped for a second and it looked at me and told
"you are beautiful" , it actually spoke, but it was mearly an infant. Later
on in the dream, I laid the baby down in a crib and left the room, I looked
through the walls and I saw my mom walking down the road. I got in a truck
and caught up to her. I asked her what she was doing and she answered "
we're out of milk, so I'm walking to the store to get some" I asked her why
she was walking when we could just take the truck, and it dawned on me that
I had left the baby. I rushed back, and it was gone, the people had taken
it..and I woke up.

dream_comments: It was strange the whole baby being so strong. It was so
strong, and I wonder why it didnt want me to hold it..to save it. Also, i'm
a teenager, and I haven't a lot of confidence, even though everyone say's
I'm "hot" or whatever, but it made me want to cry when it told me that I
was beautiful. It was also neat that it spoke at all. I really love
dreaming though, its so necessary in my existance. My life is a dream
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Message: 536-001
Subject: baby between us

dream_title: baby between us
dream_date: 7-29-2002
dreamer_name: silly

dream_text: i dream about me and my boyfriend had a baby girl and were only
in our teen years. Both our parents were fine with it and i was still able
to finish school.

dream_comments: why would i have a dream about us with a baby girl.
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Message: 536-002
Subject: hair cut

dream_title: hair cut
dream_date: 20/7/02
dreamer_name: winona

dream_text: i am walking down the street to the patphone when i see my best
friends ex boy friend pull up in hes car and they call me over and start
talking to me.then i went home to go to sleep. i have really long hair and
i love it, and anyway the next morning i wake up and my hair is short i am
really upset about this and cry, i think that i look horrible.

dream_comments: i thought this dream was really weird because i woke up
really upset as in all my dreams they feel so real i even checked to see if
my hair was still long.
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Message: 536-003
Subject: really weird

dream_title: really weird
dream_date: 23/07/02
dreamer_name: jessica

dream_text: im at a gurl from schools house who i hardly talk to and i
wouldn't trust her with anything.She is aboriginal and is laughing
hysterically.anyway she shows me a really sharp two sided knife and tells
me it is a dildo. i look at it and think that it would hurt me if i used
it. so i study it hard and realize that the knife has been placed over the
real dildo so i take the knife off and use the real dildo

dream_comments: ok this dream is really really weird and embarrassing!!
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Message: 536-004
Subject: boyfriend

dream_title: boyfriend
dream_date: 19/07/02
dreamer_name: kristy

dream_text: My boyfriend tells me that he is really glad i made him wait to
have intercourse with me. he tells me that he respects me so much for it.

dream_comments: my boyfriend keeps asking me to have intercourse with him
and i told him that i want to wait at least two months.i dont want him to
think that im some easy gurl that sleeps around
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Message: 536-005
Subject: alien abuduction

dream_title: alien abuduction
dream_date: 7-23-02
dreamer_name: anonymous

dream_text: me and a friend are in my bedroom and we notice a spec of light
through the window 5miles away, (night time), and i point at it, it
instantly appears at my window, the next thing i know, we are being
examined by aliens who scare us but tell us not to be afraid.
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Message: 536-006
Subject: Suicide

dream_title: Suicide
dream_date: July 26, 2002
dreamer_name: Sponebobc17

dream_text: I had this dream where I asked my mom what happened? And she
said that my older brother Timmy had gotten arrested. So i asked why and
she said Because he wrote a suicide note. I then asked my mom if anyone was
going to talk to him about it and i don't remember the anwser.

dream_comments: I think the anwser was no. But I'm not positive though.
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Message: 536-007
Subject: Watch What You Wish For

dream_title: Watch What You Wish For
dream_date: 05/26/99
dreamer_name: Conkatliz

dream_text: I was laying on a bed, close to the window that had a little
bird nest up in the corner and all I can remember thinking was why wouldn't
my husband sleep with me? " That was all I wanted in life was that to much
to ask for? Next thing I know I am living with this very handsome man and
all we did was have sex. Then before I know I am sitting in the hood in an
old run down house, with the utilities all cut off, no food for my
children. The handsome man turns into a drug user, and he won't work and
beats on me occasionally, hates the children so won't he won't give me any
money to feed them. Oh! God, Please somebody wake me up this is a nightmare
and I can't wake up. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Message: 536-008
Subject: man of my dreams

dream_title: man of my dreams
dream_date: 7/25/02
dreamer_name: chuckyzhune

dream_text: i had a dream that i waz riding on a bus and the boy i like
asked me to marrie him and i said yes. So he tooke me dancin and he bought
me myu weddin dress and he told me to put it on and dance with him. So we
danced and kissed .

dream_comments: what does it mean when the boy you liek ask u to marrie him
but in real life yall are not datin and he has a girlfriend.
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Message: 536-009
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Message: 537-001
Subject: New Dream

dream_title: big snakes
dream_date: 7/31/02
dreamer_name: lovett22

dream_text: I dream of very large snakes, it about this person who was
butting on a show with the snakes, and in this dream I was in love with the
person that was putting on the show with the snakes, and their was and
older in the dream to, he was close to the guy that was putting on the show
with the snake. One of the snakes ate a baby, and the person that on the
snakes, took the snake that ate the baby somewhere to get the baby out, but
the baby was dead. The old man was trying to hide one of the snake in the
washing machine, but it got out, but this snake started walking and it was
talking to the old man, than it had the old man under it spell, the old man
was in love with the snake, and the snake kill the old man, the snake told
the old man before he kill him, that I told you that I will get you. The
snake trainer walks in the room where the snake kills the old man and
laugh. At the end of the dream the snake trainer hate me, and did care
about me. What do this dream?
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Message: 537-002
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Message: 538-001
Subject: puzzling

Note: Stan requests that his name and email be kept with his dream. - rcw

DATE : 1 aug 2002 08:18 DREAM : puzzling stan kulikowski ii
<stankuli@...>

=( last night was a wednesday and i was up until 03:30 printing the CD disk
labels and jewel case inserts for my web design course. on friday evening,
the branding teams from my two class sections will be here for the
production party to burn the CDr disks with their projects of the summer
term. i print the stick-on labels and case inserts before we get together
for the production because the color printer is too slow to do it the night
everyone is here. during the early part of the evening, while mother was
watching television, i was also draining a batch of homebrew into a
cornelius keg so i could force carbonate it with the CO2 cylinder. when i
finally got to bed, i was tired and went right to sleep. )=

with a click, the puzzle piece which completes my forehead is snapped into
place and i can resume thinking. i still cannot move for a while yet, but i
can see several people scurrying about putting the last pieces where they
belong. soon my eyes thaw enough that i can look around.

beside me in this puzzle is a young woman. the last few pieces of her are
put together which completes the puzzle block we are in. soon the paralysis
will resolve so we can get out of small cubical frame that surrounds us. i
do not know how long we have been here. probably a day or two as the people
who come to this fair to play these games often take a weekend to complete
a puzzle like this.

as the stiffness in my neck indicates that i can now move my head, i can
see several other puzzle blocks around the field in which we have been
standing. there are clusters of people around each of these other blocks,
working to assemble them. it seems like the one i have been in is the first
to be completed.

as soon as i can move my arms and shoulders, i am given a glass of water. i
find that i am quite thirsty as i drink the liquid. but the people
gathering around us seem mostly concerned with the young woman beside me.

"are you alright?" asks someone. "do you know who you are?" the young woman
shakes her head, but it seems more to stretch her thawed muscles than an
answer to the question.

a man standing in front of her holds up a card which we both signed before
we were frozen and cut up into the thousand or so game pieces. he seems to
be one of officials of the fair. i can see the card and it has two names
listed on it.

"this card lists your name as 'mickey mantle', but that does not seem to be
right. most of know mickey mantle and you are obviously not him."

it will be a while before either of us can speak, but i wonder what the
solution to this will be. she might have been named after the famous
baseball player. long term amnesia is not a common side effect of standing
in for a puzzle, but it is not unheard of.

=( i wake just before 08:00. my mouth is dry and thirsty and my neck has
stiff feeling in back of it. i feel still tired and want to sleep more, but
i can tell that i will not be able to sleep much more, so i sit up to type
this dream into my bedside laptop. a stiff neck in the morning has been
fairly common lately with my frozen shoulder from the bursitis. i do not
recognize any of the people in this dream from my waking life. i wonder
what it means to be taken apart and reassembled by strangers at a fair. )=

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Message: 538-002
Subject: horse shit

dream_title: horse shit
dream_date: 07/31/02
dreamer_name: need to know

dream_text: i had a dream that i was surrounded by horse poop yellow green
color

dream_comments: why i'm i dreamning it

Comments: 538-005
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Message: 538-003
Subject: The Accident

dream_title: The Accident
dreamer_name: anonymous

dream_text: I had a dream where I was with my fiance. We were playing hacky
sac in the middle of the road. Well, he must have kicked it too hard
because I missed it and had to run to get it. At the same time a car came
up and ended up hitting me. My fiance was by my side saying it's ok. The
ambulance will be here. I'm right here with you. And that was the end of my
dream.

dream_comments: Actually I did have this dream interpreted once. The person
who interpreted my dream said that I was dreaming about one day having a
baby. At that time I happened to be pregnant. So she was right on that one.

Comments: 538-006
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Message: 538-004 [538-001]
Subject: Re: puzzling

The fact that there was a woman in the dream means that you're probably
lonely. The woman also held your attention and the attention of those
around you through most of the dream, as if you were just an outsider and
she was the one turned into a puzzle. Dreams are like that. Even so, the
puzzle sounds like a metaphor. Either you feel unsure at this particular
point in your life or someone else does and you've barely noticed. Your
dream might also have something to do with someone you know having a
complex personality, and maybe you were taking them apart so you could
figure them out. There are many ways you can look at your dream. It just
depends on what is going on in your life right now that you might want to
associate with a puzzle.
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Message: 538-005 [538-002]
Re: horse shit

That sounds like a combination of one event of hte day and one thought or
memory. Some dreams are that simple. They combine two or three things that
were on your mind, even if it was only for a moment. The idea of "horse
poop" probably comes from a lie or an embellish that somebody told you, it
could've been days before the dream, it all depends on how your mind works.
Do you have an infant or happen to care for one in the daytime? A lot of
infants poop out weird yellowish-green poop because of all the milk or
formula. You also could have had an unusual slurge in the dairy foods or
maybe you saw somebody else do it. But then again you could have seen
something yellow at some point that caught your eye and then something
green that stood out in your memory as well. You'll never know. But I have
those dreams all the time. Sometimes they're the result of a few songs I
had in my head.
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Message: 538-006 [538-003]
Subject: Re: The Accident

In common dream lore, a lot of symbols are opposites. Death means life,
life means death. Falling into the ocean means new life. Maybe you're
pregnant again. Or maybe you have common fears about something happening to
your fiance, or maybe even the child you had after the last dream. I
wouldn't worry about it. Destiny will eventually unfold itself, and you
can't prevent God's will no matter how hard you try. Just go with the flow.
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Message: 538-007
Subject: Live Board Game

dream_title: Live Board Game
dream_date: July 23
dreamer_name: Shelly

dream_text: I had a dream about me and about 3 or 4 of my friends. We were
playing this board game called "Japanese Monopoly" but we were actually in
the game. Anyway, me and my friends each had to go and sleep in a child's
room where the child had died.. One of them died from being cut and
scratched to death, another one drowned, one suffocated, and one died from
shock. Each of my friends had to pick a child. I had the one who was cut
and scratched to death. I had to lay in her bed in her room, but then all
my friends were there with me and we had dolls, kinda like voodoo dolls and
we "killed them" by the same things the children died from. (It's kinda
weird.. I'm not like pshycotic or anything and my dream scared me..
neway..) Then something happened and we ran downstairs. (It was like a
house) and my mom was in the kitchen and we told her we were scared. She
said not to worry about it, so we went in the other room and kept playing.
Then later on I was at school. My ex-boyfriend was there, and I saw him and
started talking to him. (we're friends.) Everyone around me was scared and
looking at me weird cuz I kept seeing ghosts and no one else saw them, so
they thought I was insane. I told Greg (my ex) about it and he just kinda
stood there and didn't say much. We were walking down the hall and I saw
one of my friends from elementary school. She started walking with me and
Greg, then she disappeared after a few minutes. Me and Greg kept walking..
and all the sudden we were about to turn the corner when all the doors in
the halls slammed shut and we were the only ones in the hallway. So I got
on his back for some reason and he ran down the hallway toward the science
rooms. One of my enemies saw me and made fun of me, like making weird
noises like a ghost or something. Then she ran off laughing. Greg was gone
as soon as I got to the science hallway. I had to hurry and get in one of
the classes because the doors were shutting. I found my class and sat down.
Everyone was staring at me and I was scared because my papers were flying
up and someone or something was pushing my pen or pencil into my arm trying
to slit my wrist. I started crying and everyone around me was laughing.
They couldn't see the things I saw.. I ran out of the room and I was back
at the house where we were playing "Japanese Monopoly". I was outside
putting something in my sister's trunk of her car. My friend Joni came up
to me and she was possessed. Out of no where a dog that was by us died and
after it died it got inside the trunk. Then it tried to kill Joni and I ran
back to my mom. Joni came after me and tried to kill me since she thought I
was the one who was possessed. Then I woke up....

dream_comments: My dream scared me really bad and I actually remember a lot
of it and I usually only remember pieces of it. There's a lot more to it
but I didn't want to make it too long.. What do you think?

Comments: 539-001
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Message: 539-001 [538-007]
Subject: Re: Live Board Game

Kids your age tend to pay too much attention to all that wicca and buddism
nonsense. Your dream was probably your subconscious reaction to it. Since
you saw someone from elementary school, you might, in the back of your
mind, be wondering how she is.
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Message: 540-001
Subject: my knight in heaven

dream_title: my knight in heaven
dream_date: 07/31/02
dreamer_name: Samantha

dream_text: My friend was escorting me to a doctors appt, when we saw his
(my doctor) secretary In passing in the hallway I can't stand her ( because
she's mean-spirited)Then I saw my doctor all of sudden< at that point I
have no idea where my friend was. As we locked eyes we embraced. i don't
remember anymore.

dream_comments: I can only remember part of it: which is a bit strange to
me considering I have been dreaming alot lately, and never seem to remember
any of them until this one recently, usually I have dreams pertaining to
the end of the world and I'm not a big worrier.

Comments: 541-004
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Message: 540-002
Subject: Granny's house

Granny's house
dreamer_name: Duck

dream_text: I was at my Granny's house as I usually go for dinner on
Mondays (despite the fact that the dream wasn't on Monday). I was in the
kitchen when she inormed me that there was a thief in this area. I walked
into her living room and looked out of the drawn blinds in the front
window. I looked to the house over the street, it was a dark night. In the
window I could see the thief coming down the stairs. There was a light on
in the house and he was silhoutted against the wall. I knew it was the
thief right away somehow. I found myself suddenly in a small room, full of
large pipes. I was now with my Aunt, brother and two cousins. Without
warning the thief reappeared, he was a vampire. I went to hide under the
pipes, I felt as if he was after me because he couldn't see the others. I
think I fell through a wall before finding my self in a large room. Behind
a table in front of me stood my school headteacher, he had a large knife in
his left hand. On the table in front of him were five colourful and highly
decorated toy soldiers, four in red and one in blue. He cut an arm from
each of them, right arm from the red ones and left arm from the blue one,
who was in the centre. I approached him to tell him about the thief. I said
'Sir, there is a vampire thief chasing me!' At that moment the thief
appeared in the same gap I had fallen through. I looked him in the eye.

That was the last thing I remembered about my dream. However, later on I
heard from my Granny that the house across the street (the one in my dream)
had been robbed in the early hours of the morning (probably about the same
time I had my dream). By this time I had already told people about my dream
so nobody thought I was lying.

dream_comments: I've always wondered how I knew about the robbery, or
whether it was just coincidence.

Comments: 541-003
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Message: 540-003
Subject: Teeth

dream_title: Teeth
dream_date: recurring
dreamer_name: randelions

dream_text: The setting or circumstances of the dream may vary but the same
event happens over and over: my teeth are falling out. Usually the molars
on one side painlessly and bloddlessly shatter and fall out. Sometimes they
come out in pieces or as a whole tooth. There is never any pain and I am
always frightened or startled at this event. My parents are usually around
and I alert them to what is going on.

dream_comments: I have no idea why I keep having this dream. I am 22 years
old and take very good care of my teeth and have never had any fall out.

Comments: 541-001, 541-002
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