On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 16:10 +0000, papp20032000 wrote:
>
> That is why, when somebody mentions that we, the Westerners, are going
> to help to "develop" the Third World with aid programs or NGO's and
> alike, I use to warn thirdworlders to beware of such helping
> pickpockets. The best thing First World countries could do with Third
> World countries, is let them alone, to break any ties with them, to
> forget about them, to stop exploiting them under the cover of "legal
> transactions" "free trade", "sinergies" and other similar lies. For
> the same token, the best thing we could do to Nature is to have a big,
> big siesta (STOP OUR HUMAN MODERN ACTIVITIES) and let Nature (you are
> right in this sense) to finally take back control of the situation.

Pedro,

Our ancestors, who "conquered" the world (in your case SA etc, mine
India/Africa etc) and exploited it grossly must be squirming in their
graves at your words. But you are so right.

And how do we persuade the so called developed world to take that
siesta?

>
> Finally, I am very much in line with Einstein, when he said "We can
> not solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we
> created them." And it is clear that something went wrong, specially
> since we developed machines (technology) and started massive
> exploitation of cumulated fuel resources from the lithosphere. We
> should not expect that using technology "wisely" we are going to solve
> anything. Better use our brain to change the paradigm. That way of
> living is over, whether we like it or not.

Again I agree with you, but how do we un-invent the last 200 years or
so? Or do we wait until nature does it for us via a general die-off?


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Frank
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