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Re: Separating Prints from Glass   Message List  
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RE: Separating Prints from Glass

>Most of the new Epson papers (like PGPP) use a
>micropore coating. Are you referring to something
>newer?

Gee, I really don't know. I am sure that most of the older photographic and
photographic quality inkjet papers also used some sort of coating; but the
newer papers may be using newer formulations. Such formulations probably
vary from paper type to paper type as well as from paper producer to paper
producer.

>Actually, by leaving an open path for air molecules to
>the ink, micropore papers seem to *increase*
>interactions with gaseous pollutants.

Yes it would seem so; but I would speculate that the air molecules that use
that path are just enough to help the drying of the ink while not being
great enough to permit massive amounts of pollutants to enter the paper with
the air. It probably works or is intended to work like a dust filter does.

>Epson PGPP is quite water resistant, with almost no
>bleeding even when soaked in water.

I agree; but I am not sure that that can be said for all brands of paper -
let alone all types of papers. Of course, the water resistant nature of the
inks used also will play a part in determining how water resistant an inkjet
product will be.

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... papers. It is because some of the problems have nothing to do with ink, emulsions, paint, or any other thing that may be on the surface of the paper or...
Laurie Solomon
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Jun 14, 2001
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... Gee, I really don't know. I am sure that most of the older photographic and photographic quality inkjet papers also used some sort of coating; but the ...
Laurie Solomon
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With photographic RC papers, I believe that the consensus may be that there is a resin coating on the bottom and the top of the paper substrata itself with the...
Laurie Solomon
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Jun 14, 2001
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In article <LPBBJFCBPOJLKOKMFBJBEEGJEEAA.laurie@...>, Laurie Solomon <laurie@...> writes ... Anyone who has ever handled resin coated...
Kennedy McEwen
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Jun 14, 2001
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Inkjet media hasn't been around long enough for reports of this sort of damage to surface. The rule applies to any artwork on paper, and inkjet prints...
Dave King
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Jun 14, 2001
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... Does it really? Is the ink really on the paper, or is it in the paper? I think this distinction is what is driving me to continue this discussion. If it is...
Victor
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Jun 14, 2001
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... and ... of ... FIRST foils that are printed with Encad GO inks or similar pigment inks exist for at least 6 years. The heat treatment that seals the FIRST...
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Jun 14, 2001
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Thanks for the detailed technical information on this. ... From: owner-epson-inkjet@... [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@...]On Behalf Of Ernst Dinkla ...
Laurie Solomon
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... From: "Laurie Solomon" <laurie@...> To: <epson-inkjet@...> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 4:21 AM Subject: RE: Separating Prints from Glass...
Ernst Dinkla
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I am just a professional photographer who runs his own black and white lab and not a chemist so my understanding is a layperson's and not a technical knowledge...
Laurie Solomon
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Jun 15, 2001
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... I can see this for water-based inks, but if they are oil-based inks, will moisture really draw them out? I think not. ... Mold and fungus growth occurs on...
Victor
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Jun 14, 2001
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So, why don't you people who think it is not a problem to have the print mounted flush against the glass just go ahead and display all your prints that way....
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Jun 14, 2001
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Maybe I'm mistaken but I distinctly recall a polite request from mgmt to "close" this thread. This is my attempt to so do . . . ... - Turn off HTML mail...
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In article <p05010401b74e98f65ff0@[209.179.197.69]>, Bob Tyson <bobicho@...> writes ... Never truer written words! -- Kennedy Yes, Socrates himself...
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In article <p05010401b74e98f65ff0@[209.179.197.69]>, Bob Tyson <bobicho@...> writes ... I am sure that those interested and contributing to this...
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From: Victor <lights@...> ... paper? I think ... If it is the ... contact with ... It doesn't matter whether the ink is in or on the paper. The primary ...
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Jun 14, 2001
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... Greater heating of the print? Explain how a print would be heated more without an airspace than with one. The insulating properties of the airspace will ...
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... From: "Laurie Solomon" <laurie@...> To: <epson-inkjet@...> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 5:52 AM Subject: RE: Separating Prints from Glass ...
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I think I am beginning to catch on. Thanks again. ... From: owner-epson-inkjet@... [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@...]On Behalf Of Ernst Dinkla Sent:...
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From: Victor <lights@...> ... primary ... surface ... by ... more without ... will ... will still be ... I was thinking the print would reach higher...
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In article <009301c0f665$13068ca0$7ac5fea9@vaio>, Dave King <kingphoto@...> writes ... It all comes down to the spectral transmission of glass in...
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From: Kennedy McEwen <rkm@...> ... refraction ... thermal ... or ... to go ... material ... If ... an ... conduction ... room ... by ... their...
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In article <005901c0f748$5dd7bea0$7ac5fea9@vaio>, Dave King <kingphoto@...> writes ... That is my expectation - unless the print is not illuminated...
Kennedy McEwen
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Jun 18, 2001
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... Several people have suggested that buckling is a problem. Please explain how there can be buckling. It seems to me that if the print is held firmly against...
Victor
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Jun 18, 2001
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... Yeah, that's what the Pacific plate and the North American plate thought, too. And the bimetallic strip in a thermostat. -- David Dyer-Bennet /...
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Jun 18, 2001
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... I understand what you are getting at here. These analogies assume there is some flexibility in the materials, however. My thoughts are that given...
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... And that's why I picked the first example; I don't think anything we're using is as rigid as any of the major tectonic plates. Whether the situation will...
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David! Perhaps tectonic plates make a poor standard for "rigidity". One look at the rocks around San Francisco tells even the least-trained eye they bend,...
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Jun 18, 2001
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How about Teutonic Plates? I believe they're used in a German printing process- maybe inkjet? Paul - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short....
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... But only if they're made from lithographic limestone. Bob (RPG #xxxx) - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject...
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