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Re: Separating Prints from Glass   Message List  
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Re: Separating Prints from Glass

Inkjet media hasn't been around long enough for reports of this sort
of damage to surface. The rule applies to any artwork on paper, and
inkjet prints definitely qualify. Glossy prints can "weld" to the
glass. Matte prints and inks can be damaged in various ways (no point
repeating). Exhibitions are often mounted with direct contact of
prints to glass, but they aren't left that way for storage or
permanent display if the work has value. If the work is very valuable
this would never be done at all. If you want to permanently mount
your work this way go ahead, but don't expect to see damage for
several years, and don't say you weren't warned. If you want to know
more exact reasons this is a bad idea do some basic research on
conservation of paper. It's pretty easy to find.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: Victor <lights@...>
To: <epson-inkjet@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: Separating Prints from Glass


> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:09:04 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >Judy has just given us five good reasons why this subject should be
> >closed. Give Mitch the bandwidth break on this and the "slow list",
too. Paul
>
> Well, I would tend to disagree. There have been plenty of reasons
not to mount
> flush to glass proferred, but as I see it, these reasons apply
mostly to
> non-inkjet media. I haven't seen any data yet for inkjet media. If
Mitch thinks
> this topic should be discontinued, I will certainly abide by his
wishes, but it
> seems to me that this is precisely the kind of topic that is
appropriate for
> this list. At least with the commentary that has been given, I have
some things
> to test for.
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In article <LPBBJFCBPOJLKOKMFBJBEEGJEEAA.laurie@...>, Laurie Solomon <laurie@...> writes ... Anyone who has ever handled resin coated...
Kennedy McEwen
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Inkjet media hasn't been around long enough for reports of this sort of damage to surface. The rule applies to any artwork on paper, and inkjet prints...
Dave King
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Jun 14, 2001
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... Does it really? Is the ink really on the paper, or is it in the paper? I think this distinction is what is driving me to continue this discussion. If it is...
Victor
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... and ... of ... FIRST foils that are printed with Encad GO inks or similar pigment inks exist for at least 6 years. The heat treatment that seals the FIRST...
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Thanks for the detailed technical information on this. ... From: owner-epson-inkjet@... [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@...]On Behalf Of Ernst Dinkla ...
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... From: "Laurie Solomon" <laurie@...> To: <epson-inkjet@...> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 4:21 AM Subject: RE: Separating Prints from Glass...
Ernst Dinkla
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I am just a professional photographer who runs his own black and white lab and not a chemist so my understanding is a layperson's and not a technical knowledge...
Laurie Solomon
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... I can see this for water-based inks, but if they are oil-based inks, will moisture really draw them out? I think not. ... Mold and fungus growth occurs on...
Victor
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Jun 14, 2001
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So, why don't you people who think it is not a problem to have the print mounted flush against the glass just go ahead and display all your prints that way....
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Maybe I'm mistaken but I distinctly recall a polite request from mgmt to "close" this thread. This is my attempt to so do . . . ... - Turn off HTML mail...
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In article <p05010401b74e98f65ff0@[209.179.197.69]>, Bob Tyson <bobicho@...> writes ... Never truer written words! -- Kennedy Yes, Socrates himself...
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In article <p05010401b74e98f65ff0@[209.179.197.69]>, Bob Tyson <bobicho@...> writes ... I am sure that those interested and contributing to this...
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From: Victor <lights@...> ... paper? I think ... If it is the ... contact with ... It doesn't matter whether the ink is in or on the paper. The primary ...
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Jun 14, 2001
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... Greater heating of the print? Explain how a print would be heated more without an airspace than with one. The insulating properties of the airspace will ...
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... From: "Laurie Solomon" <laurie@...> To: <epson-inkjet@...> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 5:52 AM Subject: RE: Separating Prints from Glass ...
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I think I am beginning to catch on. Thanks again. ... From: owner-epson-inkjet@... [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@...]On Behalf Of Ernst Dinkla Sent:...
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From: Victor <lights@...> ... primary ... surface ... by ... more without ... will ... will still be ... I was thinking the print would reach higher...
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In article <009301c0f665$13068ca0$7ac5fea9@vaio>, Dave King <kingphoto@...> writes ... It all comes down to the spectral transmission of glass in...
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From: Kennedy McEwen <rkm@...> ... refraction ... thermal ... or ... to go ... material ... If ... an ... conduction ... room ... by ... their...
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In article <005901c0f748$5dd7bea0$7ac5fea9@vaio>, Dave King <kingphoto@...> writes ... That is my expectation - unless the print is not illuminated...
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Jun 18, 2001
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... Several people have suggested that buckling is a problem. Please explain how there can be buckling. It seems to me that if the print is held firmly against...
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Jun 18, 2001
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... Yeah, that's what the Pacific plate and the North American plate thought, too. And the bimetallic strip in a thermostat. -- David Dyer-Bennet /...
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... I understand what you are getting at here. These analogies assume there is some flexibility in the materials, however. My thoughts are that given...
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... And that's why I picked the first example; I don't think anything we're using is as rigid as any of the major tectonic plates. Whether the situation will...
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David! Perhaps tectonic plates make a poor standard for "rigidity". One look at the rocks around San Francisco tells even the least-trained eye they bend,...
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How about Teutonic Plates? I believe they're used in a German printing process- maybe inkjet? Paul - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short....
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... But only if they're made from lithographic limestone. Bob (RPG #xxxx) - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject...
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In your capacity as a professional geologist, would you say that tectonic plates were more rigid or less rigid than photo paper? Stan Former Unregistered...
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Dear FUP: IMMH&PPOJ (In My Most Humble And Prejudicial Professional Opinionated Judgment): Less. Bob But Inactive Professional Geologist (RBIPG) RPG xxxx ... -...
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... That is the wrong question. A better question would be which is more rigid, the tectonic plates or a sheet of glass? Especially when the basis for...
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