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Re: Separating Prints from Glass   Message List  
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Re: Separating Prints from Glass

> I will also make an addition to the correction above, the water resistant
> potential is dependent on both the water resistance of the papers and the
> inks - not just the papers. For example, reprographics houses and signage
> houses have printed for outdoor display on waterproof substrata like
> plastics and films for years but it is only with the recent development
and
> improvement in water resistant inks that they have been able to produce
> inkjet outdoor products capable of resisting water damage for any length
of
> time.

FIRST foils that are printed with Encad GO inks or similar pigment inks
exist for at least 6 years. The heat treatment that seals the FIRST foils
make them water resistant too. Additional lamination is done to increase
the outdoor lifetime up to 4 years.
The recent developments are solvent type inks and UV curing inks on
special printers. They don't need special inkjet coated substrates but
can print on selected vinyls and the latter even on a wide variety of
plastics.

Ernst


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... Does it really? Is the ink really on the paper, or is it in the paper? I think this distinction is what is driving me to continue this discussion. If it is...
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... and ... of ... FIRST foils that are printed with Encad GO inks or similar pigment inks exist for at least 6 years. The heat treatment that seals the FIRST...
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Thanks for the detailed technical information on this. ... From: owner-epson-inkjet@... [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@...]On Behalf Of Ernst Dinkla ...
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... From: "Laurie Solomon" <laurie@...> To: <epson-inkjet@...> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 4:21 AM Subject: RE: Separating Prints from Glass...
Ernst Dinkla
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I am just a professional photographer who runs his own black and white lab and not a chemist so my understanding is a layperson's and not a technical knowledge...
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Jun 15, 2001
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... I can see this for water-based inks, but if they are oil-based inks, will moisture really draw them out? I think not. ... Mold and fungus growth occurs on...
Victor
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Jun 14, 2001
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So, why don't you people who think it is not a problem to have the print mounted flush against the glass just go ahead and display all your prints that way....
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Maybe I'm mistaken but I distinctly recall a polite request from mgmt to "close" this thread. This is my attempt to so do . . . ... - Turn off HTML mail...
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In article <p05010401b74e98f65ff0@[209.179.197.69]>, Bob Tyson <bobicho@...> writes ... Never truer written words! -- Kennedy Yes, Socrates himself...
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In article <p05010401b74e98f65ff0@[209.179.197.69]>, Bob Tyson <bobicho@...> writes ... I am sure that those interested and contributing to this...
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From: Victor <lights@...> ... paper? I think ... If it is the ... contact with ... It doesn't matter whether the ink is in or on the paper. The primary ...
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Jun 14, 2001
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... Greater heating of the print? Explain how a print would be heated more without an airspace than with one. The insulating properties of the airspace will ...
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... From: "Laurie Solomon" <laurie@...> To: <epson-inkjet@...> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 5:52 AM Subject: RE: Separating Prints from Glass ...
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I think I am beginning to catch on. Thanks again. ... From: owner-epson-inkjet@... [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@...]On Behalf Of Ernst Dinkla Sent:...
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From: Victor <lights@...> ... primary ... surface ... by ... more without ... will ... will still be ... I was thinking the print would reach higher...
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In article <009301c0f665$13068ca0$7ac5fea9@vaio>, Dave King <kingphoto@...> writes ... It all comes down to the spectral transmission of glass in...
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From: Kennedy McEwen <rkm@...> ... refraction ... thermal ... or ... to go ... material ... If ... an ... conduction ... room ... by ... their...
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In article <005901c0f748$5dd7bea0$7ac5fea9@vaio>, Dave King <kingphoto@...> writes ... That is my expectation - unless the print is not illuminated...
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... Several people have suggested that buckling is a problem. Please explain how there can be buckling. It seems to me that if the print is held firmly against...
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Jun 18, 2001
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... Yeah, that's what the Pacific plate and the North American plate thought, too. And the bimetallic strip in a thermostat. -- David Dyer-Bennet /...
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... I understand what you are getting at here. These analogies assume there is some flexibility in the materials, however. My thoughts are that given...
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... And that's why I picked the first example; I don't think anything we're using is as rigid as any of the major tectonic plates. Whether the situation will...
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David! Perhaps tectonic plates make a poor standard for "rigidity". One look at the rocks around San Francisco tells even the least-trained eye they bend,...
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How about Teutonic Plates? I believe they're used in a German printing process- maybe inkjet? Paul - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short....
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... But only if they're made from lithographic limestone. Bob (RPG #xxxx) - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject...
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In your capacity as a professional geologist, would you say that tectonic plates were more rigid or less rigid than photo paper? Stan Former Unregistered...
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Dear FUP: IMMH&PPOJ (In My Most Humble And Prejudicial Professional Opinionated Judgment): Less. Bob But Inactive Professional Geologist (RBIPG) RPG xxxx ... -...
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... That is the wrong question. A better question would be which is more rigid, the tectonic plates or a sheet of glass? Especially when the basis for...
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... In fact these are NOT easy or obvious questions. They invoke a matrix of variables, not least of which are space (or scale) and time. Have you ever left a...
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Bob, You got pix of this graveyard? Bill Bob Tyson <bobicho@...>@leben.com on 06/20/2001 11:50:43 AM Please respond to epson-inkjet@... Sent...
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