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#84252 From: Bob Meyer <bobm_epson@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 1:30 pm
Subject: RE: Borderless prints
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--- Laurie Solomon <laurie@...> wrote:

> I don't think so if one is using light sensitive
> photographic paper, unless
> it is done in an easel with borders or using a mask.
>  Otherwise, without
> some light blocking protection, the non-image light
> will be exposed in the
> border which will cause it to go black

Okay, I guess we're in agreement.  I assumed that if
they aren't printing on the border, that they will
take some steps to ensure no light hits it.  Either by
physical or optical masking.

If they are using the Fuji Frontier, this probably
becomes a trivial issue.  The printer could easily
control the lasers with enough accuracy to ensure that
no light hits the "border" area of the print.  It's
probably a simple user interface option.



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http://www.meyerweb.net/epson

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#84253 From: "Eric Etheridge" <eric10@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 1:32 pm
Subject: RE: 1270 pearl papers
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I've used the Epson Luster a few times and liked it.

But I'm not sure what setting to use for it: the instruction sheet says
select "Premium Luster," or if I don't have that "Premium Semigloss" but I
don't either.

Appreciate a recommendation about which one I should use. Or can I update my
printer software somehow? I looked on the Epson site and didn't see an fix.

Thanks
Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-epson-inkjet@...
[mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@...]On Behalf Of Robert Snow
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:37 PM
To: epson-inkjet@...
Subject: Re: 1270 pearl papers


Eric:

Have you tried the Epson Semi-gloss and Luster??
They both have an 'E' look to them and print just
as well as the glossy.

bob snow
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----- Original Message -----
From: "N9VJG" <n9vjg@...>
Subject: 1270 pearl papers


I have growing requests from professional wedding
photographers to make prints on "pearl," "RC" or
semi-gloss/semi-matte photo paper. I use an Epson
1270 with Epson inks. They find the Epson glossy
too glossy (almost like a 1-hour lab) and the
Epson HW matte to be too matte.
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#84254 From: "Tom Garrett" <tgar2@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: 1270 pearl papers
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Thanks for the warning.  I just received a small pack to try.  I liked the
surface but have only
made one print with my 1160.  It is about 3 weeks old and kept in normal
room light but is
in open air (not behing glass).  No problem yet but I'll watch closley if I
put any behind glass.
Tom
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From: RStephen Winter <redshift@...>
To: <epson-inkjet@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:29 PM
Subject: RE: 1270 pearl papers


> Becareful with this paper...  Bob Meyer's tests on it with Epson inks have
> not had good endings...  I put a 1270 print on RR Satin in a frame after
it
> dried for a few days and it fogged the glass after a week.  I took it out
> and let it dry for a few more days, put it back in, and after a few weeks,
> it fogged the glass again..  Unfortunately, it sold before I could
re-print
> on different paper (Archival Matte), (to who, I don't know) so I'm hoping
> the person contacts me so I can replace the print...
>
> RR actually recommends it for the 2000p.  I've printed one page on my 1200
> w/MIS Hex inks and it doesn't dry to quick... (But I haven't tested it
very
> much yet..  I'm going to send a few samples to Bob Meyer to add to his
> "collection" and see how it holds up...)
>
> -RStephen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-epson-inkjet@...
> [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@...]On Behalf Of Tom Garrett
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:18 PM
> To: epson-inkjet@...
> Subject: Re: 1270 pearl papers
>
>
> Red River Paper in Dallas has a new satin surface.  They will send a
sample
> if you request it.
> www.redriverpaper.com
> Tom Garrett
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: N9VJG <n9vjg@...>
> To: <epson-inkjet@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 10:44 AM
> Subject: 1270 pearl papers
>
>
> > Greetings all:
> >
> > I have growing requests from professional wedding photographers to
> > make prints on "pearl," "RC" or semi-gloss/semi-matte photo paper. I
> > use an Epson 1270 with Epson inks. They find the Epson glossy too
> > glossy (almost like a 1-hour lab) and the Epson HW matte to be too
> > matte.
> >
> > I ordered the inkjetmall.com paper sampler, but nothing matched their
> > requirements.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > --
> > Eric Curtis Bond
> > Photo Grafix
> > http://www.abetterreality.net
> > (847) 673-7043
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#84255 From: "Flo Karp" <flo@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 2:07 pm
Subject: Re: Photo-Quality Images on T-Shirts--Ink supplier!
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Ernst,
You're the man!!!!  Thank you for unraveling the mystery.
That is the supplier--the cartridge number and houseing matches exactly.  It
also explains why the Cone cartridge came with a foil wrap and the CDC came
with a clear plastic wrap, since they offer both.  What an extremely cool
find.  Big pat on the back for that one.

I just called the US office and the minimum order is $300 so I'll still be
getting my inks from Cone.  But it is always a pleasure for me to know the
suppliers.  Thanks again.

Flo
www.fishpie.com

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#84256 From: Victor <lights@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 2:28 pm
Subject: What is ink-drying?
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Frequently mentioned here is the notion of ink drying. If we are talking about
an oil-based ink, what does this really mean? Does the oil substrate evaporate?
This certainly is what happens with water-based inks. If this is what happens,
does anyone have any data on how fast this occurs?

Or does the ink, in fact, not dry at all, but simply binds or adheres to the
surface that it's on? If the ink is really drying, it seems like it wouldn't
matter much what medium the ink was printed on. It would eventually dry. But we
know that some media, like the old Kodak paper that I have lying around, doesn't
seem to ever dry.
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#84257 From: Victor <lights@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 2:15 pm
Subject: Re: Separating Prints from Glass
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:59:36 -0400, you wrote:

>The rule applies to any artwork on paper, and
>inkjet prints definitely qualify.

Does it really? Is the ink really on the paper, or is it in the paper? I think
this distinction is what is driving me to continue this discussion. If it is the
latter, and the layer above the ink has no problem with direct contact with
glass, then I don't see where there is a problem.
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#84258 From: "James Hill" <jmhphoto@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: What are some of you're odd inkjet practices??
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I've considered buying a box of Red River's sheer paper to do some
things like this.  I used the two sample sheets they sent me and was
impressed with the results on one of them.  I printed on the wrong
side of the other sheet and the ink is still wet 3 months later - but
it has a blurred watercolor look to it.  I was printing straight
images with the intent of fine detail at the time.

--James Hill

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tiger Moses" <tmoses@...>


> I took the sheets that used to come between the Epson Super glossy
paper
> (from the Photo EX days) they we kind of like tissue/onion skin
tracing
> paper, and did the water color effect on the image and then printed
at 360
> dpi/ppi (whatever, not 1440, and not 720) and it really did look
like a
> watercolor when printed.
>
> I took an out of focus butterfly picture that I had, so there would
be less
> chance of any detail.
>
> Did it again with another iamge at a later date, very artistic when
framed!
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#84259 From: Jerry Olson <jerryolson@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 2:18 pm
Subject: Re: Optimizing Mac for Photoshop
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Hi Nina,

Yes, I will try extensions off today, and see if thats a problem. Glad to hear
Virtual Memory should be left on. Photoshop Artistry still says to leave it
off, but Adobe should surely have the last word. I don't have conflict
catcher. Is it an easy to use program, or is it like Toast that comes with a
300 page manual (You print it)? After printing the manual, I discover
everything I needed to know and actually use the program was on ONE single
page. Unbelievable. What a waste of paper !

Jerry

> ...d they all act that way I suppose it isn't
> a problem with the app itself. Extension conflict? Possible. Have you
> tried booting with all extensions disabled and running PS? Does it still
> act weird while saving a file? That's the quickest way of seeing if it is
> an extension conflict. If confirmed, have you got Conflict Catcher? Best
> sw for troubleshooting extension conflicts, and managing eveything from
> extensions, control panels, fonts, among other things.
>
> And I would still take Rusell William's advice about how to set up PS,
> Virtual Memory, etc. After all, it comes from the horse's mouth (g).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nina

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#84260 From: Victor <lights@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: Separating Prints from Glass
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:58:55 -0500, you wrote:

>It is because some of the problems have nothing to do with ink, emulsions,
>paint, or any other thing that may be on the surface of the paper or even be
>absorbed into the paper but with the nature of substrata (inkjet or
>otherwise) being in contact with the moisture while under some pressure
>against a flat smooth surface like glass.  This is what causes ferrotyping,

I can see this for water-based inks, but if they are oil-based inks, will
moisture really draw them out? I think not.

>mold and fungus growth,

Mold and fungus growth occurs on surfaces not in contact with anything but air
as well. Just check a used camera equipment store sometime and look into some
really old lenses. My dad has old slides with fungus growing on them as well.
The surfaces of the slides touch nothing other than the air.

>bubbling and warping,

How is the paper going to bubble or warp if it is restricted to two dimensions?
It seems to me these are more likely if the print is allowed to get wet in the
presence of a space.

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#84261 From: "Jose Lopez Jr." <josepj@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: Benson
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Judy,

Check out this web site: http://www.pixation.com/

It uses any kind of paint to make images using a computer.

*Judy Seigel wrote:

> > > Maybe you should look up Richard Benson, at Yale. Waaaaaay back in
> > > the Neanderthal Age of the late '80's he was toying with a rig that
> > > shot bits of paint onto something, driven from a computer. Since his
> > > grail has long been a certain "photographic" look, I take it his aim
> > > was to make photographs that way.
> > >
> > > Bob Tyson
>
> The New Yorker, Dec.17, 1990, has a profile on Richard Benson by Calvin
> Tompkins, subtitled "A Single Person Making A Single Thing." It includes
> this quote: "Although [Lee] Friedlander feels that Benson's new process
> has produced 'the most beautiful photographic prints I've ever seen,' he
> himself has no interest in learning the process. 'It has revolutionized
> photography for him, but I don't think anybody else will be able to do
> it...'"
>
> Judy
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#84262 From: "Robert Snow" <rssnow@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 3:07 pm
Subject: Re: Lysonic inks for 1270
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George:

Did you notice that Lyson's Fotonics are now
available in bulk??  Go see Royce Bair's page:
http://www.inkjetart.com/cis/Ink_Available.html

Someone else brought up a problem here though.
One should flush before installing Lyson inks.
How do you do that with the 1270-80 machines??  I
searched and find no flushing cartridges for these
printers.

One other possibility that crossed my mind:  Why
not buy a set of cartridges for the 7000?  This is
a 6 ink printer, and the cartridges are 110 ml
each.  The 5000 carts would not do because the
Cyan and Magenta cartridges are split, i.e., there
is one cartridge for regular magenta AND light
magenta, and one for regular cyan and light cyan.
Of course, this is a pricey solution, but much
cheaper than using single cartridges.  I would
think that the ink flow would be good since the
7000 uses tubes to feed the print heads.

bob snow
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Listen up , ink manufacturers, we want bulk inks!
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#84263 From: wparsons@...
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 2:13 pm
Subject: RE: Borderless prints
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Sorry, the suggestion about the frame spaces was for the dry mounted print, to
supply spacing between the print and the glass when there is no front matte.
The mounting tape would 'hang' the print from a front matte.
Bill






"Laurie Solomon" <laurie@...>@leben.com on 06/13/2001 09:30:43 PM

Please respond to epson-inkjet@...

Sent by:  owner-epson-inkjet@...


To:   <epson-inkjet@...>
cc:
Subject:  RE: Borderless prints


That all may be true; but frame spacers is not the answer with respect to
your suggestion of why tape cannot be used to attach the print to its
backing in a flush mount rather than dry mounting the print. The frame
spacers will not hide the tape unless it is double stick tape on the back of
the print itself and the backing board because they typically are the width
of the frame's rabbit cut which is too little room to effectively use tape
to hold the print to the backing.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-epson-inkjet@...
[mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@...]On Behalf Of
wparsons@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:49 AM
To: epson-inkjet@...
Subject: RE: Borderless prints



If you can't cut a mat to go in front of the picture, you can get frame
spacers
from Light Impressions in clear, smoky, and black.  See
www.lightimpresssionsdirect.com
Bill



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#84264 From: "Gregory Georges" <ggeorges@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 1:58 pm
Subject: Traveling Portfolio
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It looks like there will be about 50 prints per portfolio! Many people have
offered to send two or three prints.

As there has been so much concern about how long it takes to get the
portfolios to make their rounds, I thought we could make it a self-policing
list. Once I have a list of everyone who wants to view the portfolio, I'll
make a Web page like the one at:

http://www.reallyusefulpage.com\tp-list.htm

Each person on the list can then click and e-mail the person before them to
prompt them to view the portfolio and get it in the mail. Every now and then
someone can send me a date noting when they got the which portfolio and I'll
post it on the Web page. This way everyone can see who has it and make an
estimate of when it they may get it.

I've got about 40 interested in viewing the portfolio. If you want to
participate, I suggest you let me know by using the e-mail links at:

www.reallyusefulpage.com\Portfolio.htm. The limit is 60 split between three
groups of 20.

Several have suggested splitting the portfolio into different categories.
For me, I'd like to see them all. I'm into photography prints, fine art
images, and B&W. As I think there are more people that want to see a range
of prints than a single type, let's stick with putting them all together.

One last comment in response to questions I'm getting off-line. All prints
are to be on 8-1'2" x 11" paper and all the notes about that print are to be
attached to the print. Either glued on, stapled on or written directly on
the back of the print. The objective is to have one neat and tidy box about
the size of a package of 100 pages of paper. It'll make it easy to handle,
package, ship, view, etc. Yes, the prints will get damaged and beat up a
bit. But, the portfolio will get around and serve its purpose.

Dan, Bruce, Rafe, and other major contributors to the List--we'd love to
have submissions from you as well! Still would like to see some prints from
vendors too! Thanks everyone...

No more info or responses from me on the Traveling Portfolio until the
middle of next week! If you e-mail me, that is OK--just don't expect me to
respond until next week.


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#84265 From: CDTobie@...
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 11:51 am
Subject: Re: Ott lights CRI 98
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In a message dated 6/13/01 11:03:11 PM, PhotoRoy6@... writes:

>Ott comapny reports they have an CRI of 98 in their T-8 4 foot bulbs.
>I have
>never seen any bulb that was above the low 90's.

Ott-Lite has just began to take the prepress proofing market seriously, and
development of a bulb aimed specificly to suit this market will certainly
help their acceptance at the high end. They are already a great proofing lamp
for casual users.

C. David Tobie
Design Cooperative
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#84266 From: Alessandro Pardi <alessandro.pardi@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 4:28 pm
Subject: Call to Europe (Was: Traveling Portfolio)
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I don't know how many people from Europe are on this list, but it would be
great if enough of us could sign up for the Traveling Portfolio project as
to make one of the three copies cross the ocean. Don't be shy!

Alessandro Pardi
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#84267 From: Mell & Alcina Nolley <nolleym@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 5:15 pm
Subject: odd practices - butcher paper
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The butcher paper is used as a support. You can iron cloth or other
flimsy medium (silk) to the waxy side of the paper. You now have  some
thing with 'body' that can go through the printer.

If you are printing on silk, you have to heat set the ink by rolling the
print in a towel, and steaming it.

Alcina
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#84268 From: CDTobie@...
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: Lysonic Ink for the 1270!
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In a message dated 6/14/01 1:08:51 AM, ggeorges@... writes:

>Is this not good? Any one using Lysonic inks? I don't recall hearing much
>
>about them on this list.

They are an excellent compromise offering extended life while maintaining a
gamut and printability similar to the Epson inks, but requiring custom
profiles to get good color. This list is prone to new fads and extremes (or
Xtremes <G>) so longtime successful compromises don't get much airtime.

C. David Tobie
Design Cooperative
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#84269 From: "Bruce Roorda" <possum1@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 4:02 pm
Subject: Re: What are some of you're odd inkjet practices?? - Cake Printing
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Sunds like a good application for a CIS, though maybe the volume of
ink/coloring used isn't that great.

Bruce Roorda
Possum Hill Farm

Brian Freitag wrote:


> I saw this process on the news a while back. I believe it used a Cannon
> ink/bubblejet printer with special carts loaded with food coloring. You
> printed a reversed image on a special paper, placed the print on the iced
> cake, sprayed with a bit of very diluted vinegar, and the image was
released
> onto the surface of the icing. There was another version where you printed
> onto edible rice paper that sort of melted into the icing when placed onto
> the cake.


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#84270 From: "John Mills" <jon1@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 4:08 pm
Subject: Re: Lysonic inks for 1270
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We heard you, Worldwide Imaging Supplies, LLC offers three inks for the
Epson 12xx printers

Ultra-FLO RE1290 Non-Archival Dye Based Ink
Ultra-FLO RE9500 Plug-N-Play Archival Pigmented Inks
Ultra-FLO RE3001 Archival/UV Resistant Pigmented Inks


John Mills ( JMills@... )
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Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:40 AM
Subject: Lysonic inks for 1270


> I'm glad to see that many companies want to produce inks for the 1270/1280
> instruments, but now that the cis from nomorecarts is available and
working
> well, ( I bought two of them, they are great!) I am in the market for bulk
> inks only, as I am sure many users on this list must be also. Listen up ,
ink
> manufacturers, we want bulk inks!
> Thank you,
> George K
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#84271 From: "Bruce Roorda" <possum1@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 5:31 pm
Subject: Cake Printing
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Canon inkjet printing on potato-based paper.

http://www.tastyfotoart.com/

They say they use Canon printers rather than Epson because there are too
many styles of Epson cartridges.  CIS?

Bruce Roorda
Possum Hill Farm


Brian Freitagwrote:
>
> I saw this process on the news a while back. I believe it used a Cannon
> ink/bubblejet printer with special carts loaded with food coloring. You
> printed a reversed image on a special paper, placed the print on the iced
> cake, sprayed with a bit of very diluted vinegar, and the image was
released
> onto the surface of the icing. There was another version where you printed
> onto edible rice paper that sort of melted into the icing when placed onto
> the cake.


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#84272 From: Tyler Boley <tyler@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 6:12 pm
Subject: re: Lysonic Ink for the 1270!
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Lysonic inks got hammered by Wilhelm a few years back. That and the fact
that they need good profiles makes them a bit less popular here. On the
other hand, many professionals use them without problems, Lysonic sells
a LOT of ink. I have used them quite a bit, and have been happy with
them. I also happen to think my prints will last a lot longer than
Wilhelm says they will, and may have lasted longer already. Lyson has
some longevity info on their site, conflicting with Wilhelm, The answer
is probably somewhere in between.
I have no experience with Fotonics, but C. D. Tobie likes them. What
more could anyone ask? :)
Tyler

> Lyson has said that they have Fotonic ink in cartridiges for the 1270 Family
> of printers. ...
>
> Is this not good? Any one using Lysonic inks? I don't recall hearing much
> about them on this list.o
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#84273 From: "Ernst Dinkla" <e.dinkla@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: Photo-Quality Images on T-Shirts--Ink supplier!
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Subject: Re: Photo-Quality Images on T-Shirts--Ink supplier!


> Ernst,
> You're the man!!!!  Thank you for unraveling the mystery.
> That is the supplier--the cartridge number and houseing matches exactly.
It
> also explains why the Cone cartridge came with a foil wrap and the CDC
came
> with a clear plastic wrap, since they offer both.  What an extremely cool
> find.  Big pat on the back for that one.
>
> I just called the US office and the minimum order is $300 so I'll still be
> getting my inks from Cone.  But it is always a pleasure for me to know the
> suppliers.  Thanks again.
>
> Flo

Shows again that the internet works like a big brain. Without
your confirmation my guess wouldn't have been worth much.
Does this mean that there's a cheaper route for Piezography as well?

Ernst



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#84274 From: Bob Tyson <bobicho@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 4:39 pm
Subject: blablablablablablablablablablablablablabla <<WAS>> RE: Separating Prints from Glass
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Maybe I'm mistaken but I distinctly recall a polite request from mgmt
to "close" this thread. This is my attempt to so do . . .






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#84275 From: MARTY FELDMAN <marty@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 11:15 am
Subject: regarding media street plug-n-play ink
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My question is about using media street's plug-n-play dye-based bulk ink
(with a CIS) on the Epson 1280.  Has anyone done this successfully with
the epson/adobe rip and do you need to alter the color profiles from
what you were using with epson's ink?  Our concern is for color
integrity for pre-press not archival.  Thanks

Marty@...


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#84276 From: Kennedy McEwen <rkm@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 8:26 am
Subject: Re: Separating Prints from Glass
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In article <LPBBJFCBPOJLKOKMFBJBEEGJEEAA.laurie@...>, Laurie
Solomon <laurie@...> writes
>With photographic RC papers, I believe that the consensus may be that there
>is a resin coating on the bottom and the top of the paper substrata itself
>with the emulsion layers on top of the top resin layer and another more
>porous resin coating layer on top of the emulsion.  Thus the paper itself is
>protected from water and the chemicals while the emulsion is protected by a
>different type of resin coating that enables the creation of surface
>textures on it as well as protecting the emulsion layers from scratching and
>abrasion.  The earlier papers may have been handled differently with the
>coatings encapsulating the only the paper substrata and not the emulsions or
>on the top and bottom with no middle layer of resin coating.
>
Anyone who has ever handled resin coated photographic paper during the
development process will know that there is no coating on top of the
emulsion at all.  The slightest scratch takes the emulsion clean off
leaving the plastic coated white paper underneath.  The surface texture
is on the plastic coating and remains even after the emulsion is removed
- either by damage or by the fixing process on unexposed areas.

Inkjet papers are completely different.
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
Python Philosophers
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#84277 From: Raphiel Benjamin <randkben@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: Epson-Inkjet-Digest V2000 #1341
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> From: owner-epson-inkjet-digest@... (Epson-Inkjet-Digest)
> Reply-To: epson-inkjet@...

I would appreciate any advice re film scanners to be used primarily with
35mm and 4x5 transparencies. thanks  Raphiel B

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#84278 From: "Neal Stout" <neals@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 6:24 pm
Subject: Re: 1270 pearl papers
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I love the Epson Premium Luster.  I printed some images on the Luster with
my Epson Premium Glossy settings that were laboriously and carefully worked
out over a considerable amount of time (you all know the feeling), and I was
very pleasantly surprised to find the the color was identical.  Very very
very close.  I didn't want to tweak even one slide even one number.  Which
is good.  Because Epson support doesn't even know they sell that paper.
Literally.

Neal


----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Etheridge" <eric10@...>
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Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: 1270 pearl papers


> I've used the Epson Luster a few times and liked it.
>
> But I'm not sure what setting to use for it: the instruction sheet says
> select "Premium Luster," or if I don't have that "Premium Semigloss" but I
> don't either.
>
> Appreciate a recommendation about which one I should use. Or can I update
my
> printer software somehow? I looked on the Epson site and didn't see an
fix.
>
> Thanks
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-epson-inkjet@...
> [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@...]On Behalf Of Robert Snow
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:37 PM
> To: epson-inkjet@...
> Subject: Re: 1270 pearl papers
>
>
> Eric:
>
> Have you tried the Epson Semi-gloss and Luster??
> They both have an 'E' look to them and print just
> as well as the glossy.
>
> bob snow
> _________________________________
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "N9VJG" <n9vjg@...>
> Subject: 1270 pearl papers
>
>
> I have growing requests from professional wedding
> photographers to make prints on "pearl," "RC" or
> semi-gloss/semi-matte photo paper. I use an Epson
> 1270 with Epson inks. They find the Epson glossy
> too glossy (almost like a 1-hour lab) and the
> Epson HW matte to be too matte.
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#84279 From: "Frank Kolwicz" <bb389@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 7:16 pm
Subject: Mixing drivers/printers
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DFStein@... wrote:

"1-Most probably know this but updated Epson drivers sometimes lurk under
different models' pages.  I haven't tested the latest yet, but, for example,
the Epson 1160 pages drivers stop at one released last July!  The 880 and
1280 pages have drivers released more recently."

Does this mean that I can use any Epson driver with any Epson printer, quad
to quad and hex to hex, of course?

If you know of up-dated drivers that work with 1160s and 700s, please let me
know.

Frank


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#84280 From: Stan McQueen <stan@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: Separating Prints from Glass
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So, why don't you people who think it is not a problem to have the print
mounted flush against the glass just go ahead and display all your prints
that way. The rest of us will continue to use mat boards and separators. In
a few years we'll see who has to peel their prints off the glass.
Meanwhile, surely this has gone on long enough.

Stan
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Photography by Stan McQueen: http://www.smcqueen.com

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#84281 From: John Nollendorfs <sinar1@...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 7:50 pm
Subject: 1270 pearl papers
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> From: owner-epson-inkjet@...
> [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@...]On Behalf Of N9VJG
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:44 PM
> To: epson-inkjet@...
> Subject: 1270 pearl papers
>
>
> Greetings all:
>
> I have growing requests from professional wedding photographers to
> make prints on "pearl," "RC" or semi-gloss/semi-matte photo paper. I
> use an Epson 1270 with Epson inks. They find the Epson glossy too
> glossy (almost like a 1-hour lab) and the Epson HW matte to be too
> matte.
>
> I ordered the inkjetmall.com paper sampler, but nothing matched their
> requirements.

You might try the Ilford semi-matte RC paper DTPSP9, available in lettersize
and 11x17.
You probably would have to experiment with paper settings for best results,
also this paper should do away with the "orange fade" problem.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++
John Nollendorfs
Lincoln Ink & Paper, Inc.
http://www.lincolninks.com/
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