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1 Terence Tao
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Dec 6, 2010
6:34 pm
This is a test message. Maths content to follow, but I'll wait until more people sign up. Best, Terry -- Terence Tao, Department of Mathematics, UCLA ...
2 Terry
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Dec 6, 2010
6:41 pm
Forwarded message from Josh: There is an interesting result in section 3.1 of the paper "Optimization in arrangements" by Langerman and Steiger (attached). In ...
3 Terence Tao
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Dec 7, 2010
2:32 am
So I think I can get the first non-trivial result about point-plane incidences - well short of full generality, but a step in the right direction: Proposition....
4 j_s_ellenberg Offline Send Email Dec 7, 2010
3:13 am
Great, Terry! Was lying in bed thinking about this very question this morning. I tend to agree with what you say here. I will try to dig up and or work out...
5 j_s_ellenberg Offline Send Email Dec 7, 2010
4:16 am
From Nets's e-mail: "Jozsef really wants to work on higher d Erdos, thinks his product trick may simplify some of our incidence theory, and also points out...
6 Katz, Nets Hawk
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Dec 7, 2010
4:21 am
... Jordan, In 3d, the triangle problem is: Given N points in R^3, show that these points define at least N^2 non congruent triangles. If they do, there must...
7 Terence Tao
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Dec 7, 2010
6:12 am
So it looks like we understand pretty well now how to do incidences between points and lines in any dimension (modulo Claim 1 and Claim 2, which look close to...
8 j_s_ellenberg Offline Send Email Dec 7, 2010
7:00 am
Sorry, notation: what is "the k=O(1) case?"...
9 Terence Tao
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Dec 7, 2010
5:37 pm
Sorry, should have clarified. Traditionally, k is the multiplicity; the average number of lines/planes/etc. that are incident to each point (or higher dim...
10 j_s_ellenberg Offline Send Email Dec 8, 2010
2:36 am
I started writing up a proof of Claim 3 and then realized that there are perhaps some actual subtleties to be dealt with. For example: suppose S is a set of...
11 Terence Tao
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Dec 8, 2010
3:01 am
Hmm. In that _specific_ case, we can throw away half of the points and end up in a much better situation... more generally, if we can just get a sizeable...
12 Jordan Ellenberg
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Dec 8, 2010
3:35 pm
Oh, that's good news (that we only need a small fraction of the n.) In that case it should work something like this. You choose P_1 to have degree as low as...
13 Terence Tao
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Dec 8, 2010
6:22 pm
I think for now we should be happy to lose as many logs as is needed to get a working theorem. After that we can try killing off the logs one by one, though I...
14 Terence Tao
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Dec 8, 2010
6:23 pm
OK, I think I now have the right numerology to solve the d-dimensional Erdos problem using the triangle formulation rather than the double coset formulation;...
15 zolimozi Offline Send Email Dec 10, 2010
7:44 am
Hi, Following Nets' instructions I joined to the group. In Elekes' program for me the great difficulty was to prove the k=2 case. That is, to show that the...
16 zolimozi Offline Send Email Dec 10, 2010
8:03 am
For point-plane incidences there is a sharp bound due to Elekes and Toth: Gy. Elekes, Cs.D. Tóth: Incidences of not too degenerate hyperplanes. You can...
17 zolimozi Offline Send Email Dec 10, 2010
4:17 pm
The two-dimensional argument should work in higher dimensions as well if the k=d case could be done. Let me state the incidence problem first. Two sets, A and...
18 Terence Tao
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Dec 11, 2010
1:39 am
Dear Jozsef, The numerology (reducing things to the k=O(1) case) seems to be good; I was working with a slightly different setup (counting rigid motions...
19 zolimozi Offline Send Email Dec 11, 2010
10:02 pm
Thanks Terry, So, it seems that the bottleneck - unless we overlooked something - is the k=d case. Can we formulate it as an unrestricted incidence problem?...
20 Terence Tao
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Dec 11, 2010
10:18 pm
Well, I'm thinking of it as an incidence problem in the d(d+1)/2-dimensional space SE(d) of rigid motions on R^d, between N^{d+1} "points" (i.e. rigid motions)...
21 Jordan Ellenberg
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Dec 12, 2010
2:20 pm
Just a note -- I am just trying to write down the right form of the "multiple polynomial method" -- I am pretty optimistic that one can write something down...
22 Jordan S Ellenberg
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Dec 13, 2010
8:48 pm
Just a note: the following paper of Atsushi Ikeda just posted to arXiv should be a good up-to-date reference for some of the issues surrounding "Claims 1 and...
23 Josh Zahl
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Dec 19, 2010
9:46 am
I've uploaded the file polyham_for_lines.pdf, which contains a sketch of an argument showing that if we have m families of lines in R^n, we can find a...
24 Jordan Ellenberg
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Dec 21, 2010
10:10 pm
Hi guys, I just uploaded a short .pdf about the "double polynomial method." What's proved there, if I did it right, is that if you have N points in P^n (or...
25 Terence Tao
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Dec 22, 2010
6:05 am
Nice! What's tantalising is that we are so close to the dimensions we need to do the 3D erdos problem, which concerns incidences of 3D objects in R^6. So ...
26 Terence Tao
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Dec 23, 2010
4:05 am
Hi everyone, I wrote some notes on point-plane incidences in R^n and put it on the yahoogroup. From looking at the grid example, one expects that given ...
27 Jordan Ellenberg
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Dec 23, 2010
4:58 pm
I think/hope that the requirement of complete intersection can be productively weakened, but it's on the non-algebraic side that I get confused about this....
28 Jordan Ellenberg
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Dec 23, 2010
5:18 pm
Will read this on plane tomorrow, Terry, looking forward! But one comment on Erdos 3-D following on from my last e-mail. Let G be the group of rigid motions of...
29 Jordan Ellenberg
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Dec 24, 2010
4:05 pm
Indeed, here's another fact one might hope makes life easier. In planes.pdf, where you try to control incidences between points and planes, you have to...
30 Terence Tao
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Dec 25, 2010
4:50 am
Dear Jordan, You've convinced me that we should be attacking the 3D Erdos problem directly now, because the toy problems of 2-planes in R^n etc. are not ...
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