I have been to some of the other groups and get the impression that most people want their dogs to be trial dogs like the BC's. I am not going to down BC's,...
... not ... chore ... On some of the other groups, if you express the opinion that ES traditional working instinct will not be maintained by trials, they send...
Hi Keith, good to "see" you here :-) There are a lot of us concerned that modern pressures have begun to change our breed. There are some well-meaning folks...
BC's have their place but they are not an ES. This is also not a put down but just a fact. ES are all purpose farm dogs that are bred to excell at their many...
...and I can't post about their wonderful guardian nature and how this works in regards to herding, LOL. Sheryl On some of the other groups, if you express the...
Well, now we have a place to talk about our English Shepherds as FARM dogs, not just as "just herding in trial terms" dogs, lol. Now to get the word out that...
When I was looking for a cow dog for our ranch here, I specifically did *not* want a BC herding specialist, because we don't have day in and day out herding...
Hi, I'll post an intro later today... (as if you haven't heard enough from me elsewhere ;-). For now...just because someone uses a "tool" incorrectly, and...
Am I the only person that thinks that basicly you don't need to do a lot of training on the ES. They need to be shown what you want done and teach control. In...
I grew up thinkin ES don't need training at all! The one we grew up with just did everything and as a kid I didn't see the "training" she got from my parents....
In a message dated 2/2/07 1:39:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, ... You're definitely not alone, Keith. One of the things that I think is most valuable about the...
Thought I recognized that cute little girl!!! She's quite a sweetie Elaine. I agree about not having to train formally anyway my ES, Whiskey seems to easily...
I agree, however, they vary by individual dog and different lines in the amount of control you need to teach, the Butcher line is very biddable- you basically...
Of course I think she is the sweetest and smaertest in the world, but seriously, she is really dog savvy! If we can just find enough people that have her...
There are certainly narrow-minded people around, who insist that you must value the same things they do if you want to talk to them. Personally, I think those...
The dogs may not need a lot of training, but the owners OFTEN do. I think if you've lived with dogs a long time, you have probably absorbed a whole lot of...
Thank you so much for inviting me to this group. I feel so much more at home here. I love the attitude that training the dog is showing it the routines, ...
In a message dated 2/2/07 5:29:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, ... She's your "grandpuppy" Elaine <G> Gemma (formerly "Proudly We Hailed" or Hailey), is a...
yep, she's a firecracker, but she's also so biddable, and a real mush. she's sweet, fun, smart, fast, and loves to work. I'd been frustrated with how she...
In a message dated 2/2/07 6:18:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, ... Isn't it cool to see the wheels turn that way? It helps for these thinking dogs to have...
that biddability and empathy, you can credit De Butcher with, that loyalty, Mary's dogs, and that protective nature (which will be more apparent as she...
~LOL~ Rumor did this too when we first started out letting him catch the chickens. I didn't get a good hold of the chicken and it would get away. He'd always...
There are farmdogs and dogs who live on farms. When you ask me, who is who, the answer will be easily given. Cheeky is the farm dog, Crazy does live on a farm,...
Barbara, I understand (and you said it very well) about having multiple ES on a farm. Even though any will help when needed, they will divide up the tasks by...
Excellent post and quote, Mary. A pup who daily follows his master during chores trains himself by watching the goings on of the farm while trying to help. On...
No Keith, You're not the only one who thinks this way. I will be the first one to claim I'm not a "herder" because being a farmgal all my life we weren't such....
Elaine and/or Ruth, There was a breakdown of the different lines, personalities or functionality types posted somewhere. Do you remember what I'm referring...
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