There are a lot of differences in demands people place on their dogs, not only because they work in different environments, but because the owner likes/ wants...
Ten years ago there were three distinct types and several more variations of English Shepherds. These types and variations were different because of...
I would love to have those black and tan photos posted here- also it would be great if you could send large picture files to Rebecca to archive. Elaine ... ...
I agree, I think there is a difference in ranch dog and farm dog. Because there are differences in ranch life and farm life. Ranches raise and work livestock....
With all respect, I find some of the implications here troubling. For decades, English Shepherds were promoted (not only by Tom Stodghill!) as "America's...
I think everyone I've seen here does a great job of finding out all these things before placing pups--or before giving advice on the problems that the owner...
Oh I didn't mean that ES's are not or should not be cattle dogs. Not at all. I just mean that they shouldn't be considred as ranch dogs. Because ranch dogs...
Actually, there are quite a few ES who are solely ranch dogs. It is a far reaching variety in this breed. I really struggle to see the working difference...
<< I think that breeding *some* of them to be solely ranch dogs is in keeping with the breed's history and the "balance" that Mary speaks of. I also think...
Maybe. But I wonder if this would be a bit like the conformation "pretty" aussies and the herding only aussies, taking the herding aussies and crossing with...
... I'm not sure where to start on this one. I have to disagree with you about English shepherds becoming "just another cattle dog" if they live and work on...
"This is the dog which so nobly guarded the homes and flock of our grandfathers." --From the Fairmount Flyer by Mildred Schoemann, who bred ES for the better...
... the ... Well, if I can comment here - as I read these posts, you and Mary are in violent agreement!! I think Mary's post addressed Belinda's post that...
Mary, You have not hurt my feelings, and are not going to. Also I don't want to hurt your feelings and am not trying to degrade anybody's breeding program....
Hi Kris, I very much enjoyed your post. Sounds like your ES is perfect for you and your life on your ranch. Perhaps I have been conversing with the ranch...
"khazelbaker77" Said I realized that the dog wouldn't have a lot of herding work to do. It's occasional, and usually not very long duration. It really doesn't...
I'm going to address two posts in one here... Probably will confuse everyone who reads it. Keith, I wish you could meet my dog. He has that grit! He puts...
Well sure, or otherwise you can just call them an Aussie. Start making them into a competative trial dog and you can call them a Border Collie. Start breeding...
... it ... Agreed! I have been saying this for years! I have seen what has happened to aussies too. I will add that there are still good examples of ES ranch...
I think part of the difficulty I have with this is the lumping together of "ranch dogs" into one group. There are ranchers who want EXACTLY what the right...
... Okay, Elaine, I would like you to name names! Which lines do you consider to be the ranch dog lines? I doubt that I would ever have the setup to select...
... ES ... of ... I agree. part of theproblem I had when I first started breeding ES (10 years ago) is that I had no idea of the scope of the breed and the...
AWFA has advertised in multiple ranch dog publications trying to find ranch homes. I don't get much response there. Erin Hischke Red Bank English Shepherds ...
I agree that the ES is the all purpose dog, capable of working tough cattle on more range like conditions as well as the small farmers flock of sheep. I agree...
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