Hello Tom,
Thanks for the quick response. Yes i have had the 3d mind dvd for over a year
just havent watched them till very recently. The process itself seems very
simple once you identify the driver states which as you mentioned can be
challenging. You mention a set of questions you will teach towards the end of
the dvd but it ends and leaves me in suspense :)  So, please put me on the list
to recieve this learning if you would be so kind.

Looking forward to continue learning from you and Kim

Loai

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Subject: Re: [essential-skills] How to elicit driver states in 3d mind


Yes there is :)

  The interesting thing that while developing the 3D Mind we actually had to
  develop ways of identifying the problem. That has actually been more
  challenging than using the 3D Mind ever was. Once you learn the 3D Mind, it
  is easy. Knowing where to apply it has been the part most people have had
  trouble with.

  The reason for that is simple. Most people do their best to avoid thinking
  about their problems. They design their lives in a way that makes the
  problem invisible. So finding it can be tricky.

  In the last 3D Mind seminar Kim and I tested several new ways of finding
  problems. We developed 4 or 5 ways so that you can attack the problem from
  may angles. We have been doing this for the last few years and the results
  were amazing.

  If you have the 3D Mind, we discuss these way in the 3D mind list. If you
  have the 3D mind and have not been invited to that list yet let me know.

  Thanks

  Tom

  On 11/12/09 5:56 PM, "wazeh" <wazzeh@...> wrote:

  > Is there a methodical approach to learn what questions to ask to get to the
  > real driver states like Tom does?
  >
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On 11/13/09 10:33 AM, "wazzeh@..." <wazzeh@...> wrote:

> Hello Tom,
> Thanks for the quick response. Yes i have had the 3d mind dvd for over a year
> just havent watched them till very recently.

You are killing me :)

  The process itself seems very
> simple once you identify the driver states which as you mentioned can be
> challenging. You mention a set of questions you will teach towards the end of
> the dvd but it ends and leaves me in suspense :)  So, please put me on the
> list to recieve this learning if you would be so kind.

Privately email me you name and the email address you had when you ordered.

Will the AR follow up be tomorrow?

If so what time?

Thanks:)


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> Will the AR follow up be tomorrow?
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> If so what time?
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> Thanks:)
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HEY TOM I TOO HAVE THE 3D MIND DVDS AND I TOO FIND A BIT OF CHALLENGE TO
IDENTIFY THE REAL PROBLEM. WHEN I PURCHASED THE 3D MIND I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT A
LIST. ANT HELP I CAN GET I WILL APPRECIATE IT THANKS....

Hi all,

I got Magical Rapport DVDs last week.  The first DVD runs for about 51 min after
that it is blank (for about 12 min).  There is no sound also.  Can someone, who
has bought the DVDs, tell me if this is a problem with the DVD set I have or is
a issue for them also.

Vikas

Ya know I am not sure how long the first DVD runs. I don't think it should
just end and go blank.

Tell you what if you want to send it back let me know and while you do that
we will send you a replacement. The only reason I want it back is so I can
see the problem.

Email me privately and I will take care of it.


Tom


On 11/15/09 10:48 AM, "ck07s" <ck07s@...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I got Magical Rapport DVDs last week.  The first DVD runs for about 51 min
> after that it is blank (for about 12 min).  There is no sound also.  Can
> someone, who has bought the DVDs, tell me if this is a problem with the DVD
> set I have or is a issue for them also.
>
> Vikas
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Hey Tom,

I tried today what you told me(am I a good student now?:)) and what I
did was
step into the person and make golden bubble and move to a position.

I took for the 1st hour subordiante. Almost 100% close rate.
For the 2nd hour equal (which was kind of hard for me for some reason to
be equal to the clients).
Again almost 100% close rate.
For the 3rd hour I took superior. Again nearly 100% close rate.

I felt confused. It seems that every position works. I also found out
that I have not been consistent so far in my position when I talked to
someone- not in a clear way.

Then I felt bored or something, and didn't want to pay attention to
people that much, and I started falling with that. Then I decided to go
back to subordiante (it fit most of the clients at the end of the day. I
just knew they would be more comfortable with me subordiante).
Again close to 100%. That subordiante position is really awesome.

Even when I talked to women from that position, for just a few words. I
felt a big difference. Like there was an opening of a connection.

My questions are:
1. How come all the positions worked for me at the beginning of the day?
2. Why does it seem to me that subordiante position is the best to
connect with everyone?
3. What can bea good next step to build on top of that?

Thanks:)


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Hi Roi



I've only just realised that you used to be dragon something - is that right -
you were wern't you.



Well done for the change of name - much better and much more optimistic in my
opinion.



And you seem to be getting better at the 3D mind - so well done twice!



martin



To: essential-skills@yahoogroups.com
From: firest@...
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:00:37 +0200
Subject: [essential-skills] Weird positions practice experience





Hey Tom,

I tried today what you told me(am I a good student now?:)) and what I
did was
step into the person and make golden bubble and move to a position.

I took for the 1st hour subordiante. Almost 100% close rate.
For the 2nd hour equal (which was kind of hard for me for some reason to
be equal to the clients).
Again almost 100% close rate.
For the 3rd hour I took superior. Again nearly 100% close rate.

I felt confused. It seems that every position works. I also found out
that I have not been consistent so far in my position when I talked to
someone- not in a clear way.

Then I felt bored or something, and didn't want to pay attention to
people that much, and I started falling with that. Then I decided to go
back to subordiante (it fit most of the clients at the end of the day. I
just knew they would be more comfortable with me subordiante).
Again close to 100%. That subordiante position is really awesome.

Even when I talked to women from that position, for just a few words. I
felt a big difference. Like there was an opening of a connection.

My questions are:
1. How come all the positions worked for me at the beginning of the day?
2. Why does it seem to me that subordiante position is the best to
connect with everyone?
3. What can bea good next step to build on top of that?

Thanks:)

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On 11/15/09 3:00 PM, "roisunrise" <firest@...> wrote:


> My questions are:
> 1. How come all the positions worked for me at the beginning of the day?

I don't care


> 2. Why does it seem to me that subordiante position is the best to
> connect with everyone?

I don't care

> 3. What can bea good next step to build on top of that?

Keep doing this for a week

Tom

Well if nothing changes in the poll we offered here are the 3 seminars we
will be holding

3D mind 3.0- Which was awesome BTW

Ultimate Persuasion- Vocal Influence, Anchoring and Rapport all geared
towards hard core persuasion

Modeling- By far the seminar voted the best thing we ever taught!

The dates will be April 17-18, April 24 ­25 and May 1 ­ 3.

The 3 day seminar is a bank holiday so no excuses about taking work off :)

We are going to offer amazing deals on these for those who can sign up
early. We are not going to allow sign ups to begin until December 1st. In
the past these have sold out. Not sure how we will do this time but I am
going to make a 6 month payment plan for those who need it.

Just a heads up. You can sign up in 2 weeks :)

Tom


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Thanks Martin:)

About the change of name I just sometimes use Mozilla thunderbird... so
new nick because of that?

Martin Dearden:
>
>
> Hi Roi
>
> I've only just realised that you used to be dragon something - is that
> right - you were wern't you.
>
> Well done for the change of name - much better and much more
> optimistic in my opinion.
>
> And you seem to be getting better at the 3D mind - so well done twice!
>
> martin
>
>
> To: essential-skills@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:essential-skills%40yahoogroups.com>
> From: firest@... <mailto:firest%40netvision.net.il>
> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:00:37 +0200
> Subject: [essential-skills] Weird positions practice experience
>
> Hey Tom,
>
> I tried today what you told me(am I a good student now?:)) and what I
> did was
> step into the person and make golden bubble and move to a position.
>
> I took for the 1st hour subordiante. Almost 100% close rate.
> For the 2nd hour equal (which was kind of hard for me for some reason to
> be equal to the clients).
> Again almost 100% close rate.
> For the 3rd hour I took superior. Again nearly 100% close rate.
>
> I felt confused. It seems that every position works. I also found out
> that I have not been consistent so far in my position when I talked to
> someone- not in a clear way.
>
> Then I felt bored or something, and didn't want to pay attention to
> people that much, and I started falling with that. Then I decided to go
> back to subordiante (it fit most of the clients at the end of the day. I
> just knew they would be more comfortable with me subordiante).
> Again close to 100%. That subordiante position is really awesome.
>
> Even when I talked to women from that position, for just a few words. I
> felt a big difference. Like there was an opening of a connection.
>
> My questions are:
> 1. How come all the positions worked for me at the beginning of the day?
> 2. Why does it seem to me that subordiante position is the best to
> connect with everyone?
> 3. What can bea good next step to build on top of that?
>
> Thanks:)
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Hey Roi,

I told you weeks ago that you have to explicitly set your mail software or
account up to show the name you want. Of course, either way, the recipient
can see the mail Address, but whether it says 'roisunrise' or 'warrior king'
(or whatever your former nickname was ;-) is a different matter. It is not
shown in all e-mail clients, but YOU have to set it up. Maybe in Thunderbird
you have it set up and not where ever else you send your mails from...

Haven't really been following for a while now, but it seems you are on
track. Good, keep it up

Best,
Sandro


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Sent: Montag, 16. November 2009 19:16
To: essential-skills@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [essential-skills] Weird positions practice experience

Thanks Martin:)

About the change of name I just sometimes use Mozilla thunderbird... so
new nick because of that?

Martin Dearden:
>
>
> Hi Roi
>
> I've only just realised that you used to be dragon something - is that
> right - you were wern't you.
>
> Well done for the change of name - much better and much more
> optimistic in my opinion.
>
> And you seem to be getting better at the 3D mind - so well done twice!
>
> martin
>
>
> To: essential-skills@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:essential-skills%40yahoogroups.com>
> From: firest@... <mailto:firest%40netvision.net.il>
> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:00:37 +0200
> Subject: [essential-skills] Weird positions practice experience
>
> Hey Tom,
>
> I tried today what you told me(am I a good student now?:)) and what I
> did was
> step into the person and make golden bubble and move to a position.
>
> I took for the 1st hour subordiante. Almost 100% close rate.
> For the 2nd hour equal (which was kind of hard for me for some reason to
> be equal to the clients).
> Again almost 100% close rate.
> For the 3rd hour I took superior. Again nearly 100% close rate.
>
> I felt confused. It seems that every position works. I also found out
> that I have not been consistent so far in my position when I talked to
> someone- not in a clear way.
>
> Then I felt bored or something, and didn't want to pay attention to
> people that much, and I started falling with that. Then I decided to go
> back to subordiante (it fit most of the clients at the end of the day. I
> just knew they would be more comfortable with me subordiante).
> Again close to 100%. That subordiante position is really awesome.
>
> Even when I talked to women from that position, for just a few words. I
> felt a big difference. Like there was an opening of a connection.
>
> My questions are:
> 1. How come all the positions worked for me at the beginning of the day?
> 2. Why does it seem to me that subordiante position is the best to
> connect with everyone?
> 3. What can bea good next step to build on top of that?
>
> Thanks:)
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Its really good to hear from you Sandro:)

I would love to see you back on the list.
I am still dealing with stuff, but it seems that stuff are starting to
shift in a big way.
I connect much better with people.


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I originally didn't want to post this story because it's pick up related but Tom
said I should post it anyway

So here it is

To tom:

----------------------------------

I wanted to share a quick story with you, the reason I am not posting it to the
ES list is because it's dating related.

I grabbed the money magnet and wanted to turn it into a chick magnet, but when I
was filling out my values I noticed that that I really didn't want a GF I simply
wanted 2 things:

1 I wanted the chance to meet new interesting women

2 I wanted to have fun when I met them

I did that 6 weeks ago and for the next 4 weeks I had a date every week or met
some interesting new women.

For some reason it stopped and now while typing this I suddenly realise that I
should hit myself in the back of the head HARD!!

Why? Because about 2 weeks ago I stopped initiating contact with women because I
was waiting for one girl....

Anyway thanks for reading my rant
------------------------------------------------

This was a couple of weeks ago and since I've changed my focus back to meeting
interesting women instead of finding a girlfriend, my results have improved.

I've met several interesting women and by no means did I get anywhere with them
or "score" but the interactions were just so much fun.

For example today I had a date with a fun and playful girl and I was worried
about what I should say to her or what should do together, or which step I was
in of the 12 step program. I had no agenda, no secret strategy (oh crap I forgot
anchoring)...

And tomorrow I've got another date lined up, which is amazing seeing is how I've
got more action in the last 2-3 months then in the last 2 years or so.

Anyway signing off now

Etienne


Etienne

Hey Etienne,

Woow Awesome to see your results!

For those who don't know it, this is why the 3dMind list is such an amazing
resource.

This is what I adviced him to do somewhere in August.

"...How about setting up the opposite goal ... ie: go out without even thinking
about approaching, ... and use the 3dmind on what gets in the way of doing that"

I'm glad he took action.  Which is leading to some great results for Etienne.

Really people, If you're not on the 3dMind list or are just lurking instead of
interacting, you're just missing out.

Great work Etienne!

Have fun

Bart




<caputmartem@...> wrote:
>
> I originally didn't want to post this story because it's pick up related but
Tom said I should post it anyway
>
> So here it is
>
> To tom:
>
> ----------------------------------
>
> I wanted to share a quick story with you, the reason I am not posting it to
the ES list is because it's dating related.
>
> I grabbed the money magnet and wanted to turn it into a chick magnet, but when
I was filling out my values I noticed that that I really didn't want a GF I
simply wanted 2 things:
>
> 1 I wanted the chance to meet new interesting women
>
> 2 I wanted to have fun when I met them
>
> I did that 6 weeks ago and for the next 4 weeks I had a date every week or met
some interesting new women.
>
> For some reason it stopped and now while typing this I suddenly realise that I
should hit myself in the back of the head HARD!!
>
> Why? Because about 2 weeks ago I stopped initiating contact with women because
I was waiting for one girl....
>
> Anyway thanks for reading my rant
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> This was a couple of weeks ago and since I've changed my focus back to meeting
interesting women instead of finding a girlfriend, my results have improved.
>
> I've met several interesting women and by no means did I get anywhere with
them or "score" but the interactions were just so much fun.
>
> For example today I had a date with a fun and playful girl and I was worried
about what I should say to her or what should do together, or which step I was
in of the 12 step program. I had no agenda, no secret strategy (oh crap I forgot
anchoring)...
>
> And tomorrow I've got another date lined up, which is amazing seeing is how
I've got more action in the last 2-3 months then in the last 2 years or so.
>
> Anyway signing off now
>
> Etienne
>
>
> Etienne
>

I have a 11 yr nephew that has trouble in school. He seems to lack focus in some
subjects. I've been seeing a lot of articles online about many people being left
or right side dominant of the brain. Not that we don't use both, but we prefer
one side over the other. Now others have a balance between the both and are
considered "whole brain". Left brain thinkers are more logical, rational,
analytical. Right brain thinkers are more creative, intuitive, random.I wonder
if this hold true? My nephew does well in art, history, literature, but is
struggling in math and science.

I have a great idea:

Let's call it "The Chick Magnet" from now on, and Tom can then become a
seduction guru
LOL


Caput Martem:
>
> I originally didn't want to post this story because it's pick up
> related but Tom said I should post it anyway
>
> So here it is
>
> To tom:
>
> ----------------------------------
>
> I wanted to share a quick story with you, the reason I am not posting
> it to the ES list is because it's dating related.
>
> I grabbed the money magnet and wanted to turn it into a chick magnet,
> but when I was filling out my values I noticed that that I really
> didn't want a GF I simply wanted 2 things:
>
> 1 I wanted the chance to meet new interesting women
>
> 2 I wanted to have fun when I met them
>
> I did that 6 weeks ago and for the next 4 weeks I had a date every
> week or met some interesting new women.
>
> For some reason it stopped and now while typing this I suddenly
> realise that I should hit myself in the back of the head HARD!!
>
> Why? Because about 2 weeks ago I stopped initiating contact with women
> because I was waiting for one girl....
>
> Anyway thanks for reading my rant
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> This was a couple of weeks ago and since I've changed my focus back to
> meeting interesting women instead of finding a girlfriend, my results
> have improved.
>
> I've met several interesting women and by no means did I get anywhere
> with them or "score" but the interactions were just so much fun.
>
> For example today I had a date with a fun and playful girl and I was
> worried about what I should say to her or what should do together, or
> which step I was in of the 12 step program. I had no agenda, no secret
> strategy (oh crap I forgot anchoring)...
>
> And tomorrow I've got another date lined up, which is amazing seeing
> is how I've got more action in the last 2-3 months then in the last 2
> years or so.
>
> Anyway signing off now
>
> Etienne
>
> Etienne
>
>
>
>
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Well to be honest the change wasn't that fast and probaly took about 1.5 -2
years.

The first step for me was stop reading/listening/viewing all that seduction
crap. Which suddenly left me a lot of free time and because I wasn't able to
hide in the safety of reading I started to bump into a lot of little problems.
Fortunaly for me I had the 3D mind..

The second step I reached when I actually was at the London 3D mind seminar.
Even though I wasn't into the PUA scene anymore I still found myself to be
worried too much about women. During a 3D mind session with another student I
discovered that when I felt stressed my attention shifted to women. Just imagine
everytime you feel stressed your mind goes to the thing you're worst at. Oh yeah
that sucks huh? From then on I started to become more detached from dating.

Being the obsessive little bastard that I am of course had to pick something
else to spend all my time and effort on. This became martial arts, which was
still a hiding place because I still avoided talking to most women.

Sometime after the last summer I started to live a more balanced life. I am
balancing martial arts with partying and studying with social activities. From
there on I did the girl magnet and voila...


Etienne

--- In essential-skills@yahoogroups.com, "bart" <bardos_be@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Etienne,
>
> Woow Awesome to see your results!
>
> For those who don't know it, this is why the 3dMind list is such an amazing
resource.
>
> This is what I adviced him to do somewhere in August.
>
> "...How about setting up the opposite goal ... ie: go out without even
thinking about approaching, ... and use the 3dmind on what gets in the way of
doing that"
>
> I'm glad he took action.  Which is leading to some great results for Etienne.
>
> Really people, If you're not on the 3dMind list or are just lurking instead of
interacting, you're just missing out.
>
> Great work Etienne!
>
> Have fun
>
> Bart
>
>
>
>
> <caputmartem@> wrote:
> >
> > I originally didn't want to post this story because it's pick up related but
Tom said I should post it anyway
> >
> > So here it is
> >
> > To tom:
> >
> > ----------------------------------
> >
> > I wanted to share a quick story with you, the reason I am not posting it to
the ES list is because it's dating related.
> >
> > I grabbed the money magnet and wanted to turn it into a chick magnet, but
when I was filling out my values I noticed that that I really didn't want a GF I
simply wanted 2 things:
> >
> > 1 I wanted the chance to meet new interesting women
> >
> > 2 I wanted to have fun when I met them
> >
> > I did that 6 weeks ago and for the next 4 weeks I had a date every week or
met some interesting new women.
> >
> > For some reason it stopped and now while typing this I suddenly realise that
I should hit myself in the back of the head HARD!!
> >
> > Why? Because about 2 weeks ago I stopped initiating contact with women
because I was waiting for one girl....
> >
> > Anyway thanks for reading my rant
> > ------------------------------------------------
> >
> > This was a couple of weeks ago and since I've changed my focus back to
meeting interesting women instead of finding a girlfriend, my results have
improved.
> >
> > I've met several interesting women and by no means did I get anywhere with
them or "score" but the interactions were just so much fun.
> >
> > For example today I had a date with a fun and playful girl and I was worried
about what I should say to her or what should do together, or which step I was
in of the 12 step program. I had no agenda, no secret strategy (oh crap I forgot
anchoring)...
> >
> > And tomorrow I've got another date lined up, which is amazing seeing is how
I've got more action in the last 2-3 months then in the last 2 years or so.
> >
> > Anyway signing off now
> >
> > Etienne
> >
> >
> > Etienne
> >
>

I never really did get this. nor have I ever believed it.

I wonder what Tom or Dr. Ken say about this.

Thanks


Shane



________________________________
From: cyborgdan2000 <cyborgdan2000@...>
To: essential-skills@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 7:59:33 AM
Subject: [essential-skills] Left/Right Brain Dominant

 
I have a 11 yr nephew that has trouble in school. He seems to lack focus in some
subjects. I've been seeing a lot of articles online about many people being left
or right side dominant of the brain. Not that we don't use both, but we prefer
one side over the other. Now others have a balance between the both and are
considered "whole brain". Left brain thinkers are more logical, rational,
analytical. Right brain thinkers are more creative, intuitive, random.I wonder
if this hold true? My nephew does well in art, history, literature, but is
struggling in math and science.





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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing your results!

Sincerely,

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--- In essential-skills@yahoogroups.com, "Caput Martem" <caputmartem@...> wrote:
>
> I originally didn't want to post this story because it's pick up related but
Tom said I should post it anyway
>
> So here it is
>
> To tom:
>
> ----------------------------------
>
> I wanted to share a quick story with you, the reason I am not posting it to
the ES list is because it's dating related.
>
> I grabbed the money magnet and wanted to turn it into a chick magnet, but when
I was filling out my values I noticed that that I really didn't want a GF I
simply wanted 2 things:
>
> 1 I wanted the chance to meet new interesting women
>
> 2 I wanted to have fun when I met them
>
> I did that 6 weeks ago and for the next 4 weeks I had a date every week or met
some interesting new women.
>
> For some reason it stopped and now while typing this I suddenly realise that I
should hit myself in the back of the head HARD!!
>
> Why? Because about 2 weeks ago I stopped initiating contact with women because
I was waiting for one girl....
>
> Anyway thanks for reading my rant
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> This was a couple of weeks ago and since I've changed my focus back to meeting
interesting women instead of finding a girlfriend, my results have improved.
>
> I've met several interesting women and by no means did I get anywhere with
them or "score" but the interactions were just so much fun.
>
> For example today I had a date with a fun and playful girl and I was worried
about what I should say to her or what should do together, or which step I was
in of the 12 step program. I had no agenda, no secret strategy (oh crap I forgot
anchoring)...
>
> And tomorrow I've got another date lined up, which is amazing seeing is how
I've got more action in the last 2-3 months then in the last 2 years or so.
>
> Anyway signing off now
>
> Etienne
>
>
> Etienne
>

I read abut this years ago in a book called 'The Psychology of Conciousness' by
Robert Orstein.



I believe it has since been disproven or examined and found to be unproven.



martin



To: essential-skills@yahoogroups.com
From: shane_krgr@...
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:26:23 -0800
Subject: Re: [essential-skills] Left/Right Brain Dominant





I never really did get this. nor have I ever believed it.

I wonder what Tom or Dr. Ken say about this.

Thanks

Shane

________________________________
From: cyborgdan2000 <cyborgdan2000@...>
To: essential-skills@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 7:59:33 AM
Subject: [essential-skills] Left/Right Brain Dominant


I have a 11 yr nephew that has trouble in school. He seems to lack focus in some
subjects. I've been seeing a lot of articles online about many people being left
or right side dominant of the brain. Not that we don't use both, but we prefer
one side over the other. Now others have a balance between the both and are
considered "whole brain". Left brain thinkers are more logical, rational,
analytical. Right brain thinkers are more creative, intuitive, random.I wonder
if this hold true? My nephew does well in art, history, literature, but is
struggling in math and science.

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It is an interesting myth but it has been disproven.

In the broadest sense now it is believed that the right brain deals with
things in a more general way and the left in more detail.

This is based on scans of activity. The question is this. Is the activity
learned or predisposed?

Does one side light up because of the way he learned to think or is it
because he is left brained or right brained??

Apply Occum's razor here.

I would suggest that it is not because of was the way he was born. It was
the way he was trained.

The task is this. Teach him creative ways to learn math and science.

Make sense?


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> I have a 11 yr nephew that has trouble in school. He seems to lack focus in
> some subjects. I've been seeing a lot of articles online about many people
> being left or right side dominant of the brain. Not that we don't use both,
> but we prefer one side over the other. Now others have a balance between the
> both and are considered "whole brain". Left brain thinkers are more logical,
> rational, analytical. Right brain thinkers are more creative, intuitive,
> random.I wonder if this hold true? My nephew does well in art, history,
> literature, but is struggling in math and science.
>
>
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Hey Tom....been on the site and it looks really great.   I was able to move
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Hi Folks,

We have been quite busy trying to make your experience better on our site.
Thanks to the poll participation last week we have made some changes that
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The biggest problem that people had was navigation. What we had was too
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Its been over a week now.

I have been stepping in, making the gold bubble and going into one of
the three positions.

At first it worked great on clients with all 3 positions. I still had
problems with my co workers which I have had for months (maybe close to
a year?) that I couldn't solve no matter what maneuvers I tried.

In the last few days I have had a harder time to make it work with
clients. But I finally decided to use it on my co workers- after a long
time I was afraid it would ruin everything.

And amazingly I just switched positions to either equal or more so,
subbordiante (without stepping into them, it felt unnatural stepping
into them)- and I have vanished problems I had and couldn't solve for a
long time. And now its all so easy... I just ask something from one of
managers in a subbordinate poistion... and the answer is almost always yes.

But it doesn't work well with clients for me... I have a harder time to
open up and connect. which is necessary besides the position itself.

What is my next step?

Thank you:)


Tom Vizzini:
>
>
>
> On 11/15/09 3:00 PM, "roisunrise" <firest@...
> <mailto:firest%40netvision.net.il>> wrote:
>
> > My questions are:
> > 1. How come all the positions worked for me at the beginning of the day?
>
> I don't care
>
> > 2. Why does it seem to me that subordiante position is the best to
> > connect with everyone?
>
> I don't care
>
> > 3. What can bea good next step to build on top of that?
>
> Keep doing this for a week
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
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>
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keep practicing and learn

bye


--- In essential-skills@yahoogroups.com, roisunrise <firest@...> wrote:
>
> Its been over a week now.
>
> I have been stepping in, making the gold bubble and going into one of
> the three positions.
>
> At first it worked great on clients with all 3 positions. I still had
> problems with my co workers which I have had for months (maybe close to
> a year?) that I couldn't solve no matter what maneuvers I tried.
>
> In the last few days I have had a harder time to make it work with
> clients. But I finally decided to use it on my co workers- after a long
> time I was afraid it would ruin everything.
>
> And amazingly I just switched positions to either equal or more so,
> subbordiante (without stepping into them, it felt unnatural stepping
> into them)- and I have vanished problems I had and couldn't solve for a
> long time. And now its all so easy... I just ask something from one of
> managers in a subbordinate poistion... and the answer is almost always yes.
>
> But it doesn't work well with clients for me... I have a harder time to
> open up and connect. which is necessary besides the position itself.
>
> What is my next step?
>
> Thank you:)
>
>
> Tom Vizzini:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/15/09 3:00 PM, "roisunrise" <firest@...
> > <mailto:firest%40netvision.net.il>> wrote:
> >
> > > My questions are:
> > > 1. How come all the positions worked for me at the beginning of the day?
> >
> > I don't care
> >
> > > 2. Why does it seem to me that subordiante position is the best to
> > > connect with everyone?
> >
> > I don't care
> >
> > > 3. What can bea good next step to build on top of that?
> >
> > Keep doing this for a week
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
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> >
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Subscriber see today¹s video of this go to our site.

http://www.essential-skills.com/is-your-focus-blurred/

It happens all to easily.

You get an idea of what you want to achieve. You make a plan to get it. You
are excited and highly motivated. Then you get it all together and get
started.

This is the point that most people get to pretty easily. What happens after
this is the difference between success and failure. It is the point where
life can make massive change or follow the familiar.  It is the point where
all ideas thrive or die.

What happens here is so simple that it will be hard to believe.

You just lose focus. Staying focused on an idea or plan is essential to any
success no matter what it is. KNOWING WHERE to focus can save you a ton of
time and effort.

I have been guilty of this myself. Those who are successful don't become
that way by being the people who work the hardest. The get there because
they know where to apply their focus and energy.  The put their focus and
energy in the places that give the most return. They KNOW what those places
are.

I have worked my butt off and gotten no return on things because they were
activities and strategies that were never going to return my investment of
time but they felt important to me at the time. I used to spend 4 hours a
day writing emails to groups and getting into arguments about what what we
do works. It was a waste of time but I felt like it was important.  Then I
met some folks who worked differently. The thought differently and they had
amazing results. What I applied was a method of information gathering know
as modeling. When you model someone there are 3 main bits of information you
need to gather.

1. What are the beliefs, habits and mindset of the person who is doing what
you want to do?

2. What are your beliefs habits and mindset about the thing you want to be
able to do?

3. Have a method of changing your beliefs habits and mindsets to match the
ones of the person who is succeeding.

Then you can have a similar focus to the person that is succeeding.

If you are shy how to those who are not shy see the world?

If you are poor how do those who are not poor see the world?

If you can¹t get a date how do those who can find someone feel about it?

No matter what it is that you want to do, there is someone already doing it!

I hear it time and time again. Well Tom the seminar was great but when I
went home I forgot about anchoring. I did not think about rapport. That is
because it is too easy to do what you have always done. Then ere is the ³ I
will do it as long as it fits into what I already think is important².

Then there are those who go home and have great lives because they actually
use these skills. They understand how much fun it can be. They take the step
that the others never take!

Sometimes after a year or so they get it. They finally listen. They get to
the point that they can be lead into success. They finally do what I told
them to do a year ago. They become......teachable.

Next April we are going to be doing 3 seminars in the UK. Those who are
teachable will have amazing results. Those who think they are different or
special because of what problems they have will not.

I have a method of learning things. It is quite simple. I pretend I know
nothing. I forget the skills I already have and allow myself to have the
full experience of what it being taught. Only then can I evaluate the value
of what is being offered. Only then can I see it without the blurred focus
of my expectations. Most times I learn some great new stuff.

Your focus will lead you success or failure.

Those who are already successful know where to focus.

Our desire is for you to have an amazing life. Most times that will begin
with the first step into something unfamiliar.

So we come to another year¹s end and it is time to evaluate where your focus
has been over the last year. I find this funny because again it is a matter
of focus. There is a difference between what those who are happy and
successful focus on and what those who are depressed and unsuccessful focus
on. It is amazing. Just this one little change in how you evaluate your life
can change everything.

What is it Tom?!

Here is it one little tip that will change your life.

First...here is how those who do not succeed focus. They make a list of
everything they did not get done or screwed up. Then they feel bad. Then
they take that list, with those bad feelings, and turn them into New Years
Resolutions!

Sound familiar?

OK now here is what I have learned from those who just keep making their
lives better. Make a list of all the fun things you did last year. Then a
list of all the stuff you achieved. Then what you learned from those
experiences. Then make a list of the stuff that you did not do so well at.
Then a list of what you learned from that.

Now look only at the list of the things you learned over the last year!

It is just that simple. Now with that list of things you learned think about
what you want to do next year.

This is a simple mind trick that allows you to think about things in a
different way.

Give it a try and let me know your results

Have fun

Tom

























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My skill has deteriorated.

I am barely able to get rapport and into positions.

What is the next step I should focus on, so I can add to the positions,
and my attempt to enter into people and make the gold bubble?

Thanks


bart:
>
>
> keep practicing and learn
>
> bye
>
> --- In essential-skills@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:essential-skills%40yahoogroups.com>, roisunrise <firest@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Its been over a week now.
> >
> > I have been stepping in, making the gold bubble and going into one of
> > the three positions.
> >
> > At first it worked great on clients with all 3 positions. I still had
> > problems with my co workers which I have had for months (maybe close to
> > a year?) that I couldn't solve no matter what maneuvers I tried.
> >
> > In the last few days I have had a harder time to make it work with
> > clients. But I finally decided to use it on my co workers- after a long
> > time I was afraid it would ruin everything.
> >
> > And amazingly I just switched positions to either equal or more so,
> > subbordiante (without stepping into them, it felt unnatural stepping
> > into them)- and I have vanished problems I had and couldn't solve for a
> > long time. And now its all so easy... I just ask something from one of
> > managers in a subbordinate poistion... and the answer is almost
> always yes.
> >
> > But it doesn't work well with clients for me... I have a harder time to
> > open up and connect. which is necessary besides the position itself.
> >
> > What is my next step?
> >
> > Thank you:)
> >
> >
> > Tom Vizzini:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/15/09 3:00 PM, "roisunrise" <firest@...
> > > <mailto:firest%40netvision.net.il>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > My questions are:
> > > > 1. How come all the positions worked for me at the beginning of
> the day?
> > >
> > > I don't care
> > >
> > > > 2. Why does it seem to me that subordiante position is the best to
> > > > connect with everyone?
> > >
> > > I don't care
> > >
> > > > 3. What can bea good next step to build on top of that?
> > >
> > > Keep doing this for a week
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> > > signature database 4612 (20091116) __________
> > >
> > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
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>
>
>
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