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The Ongoing Tragedy of the Obama (chapter on health care)   Message List  
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Re: The Ongoing Tragedy of the Obama (chapter on health care)

--- In ex-Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, jeremyr <jeremyr@...> wrote:
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> http://lefthooktheblog.blogspot.com/
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> Tonight, the Obama went before a joint session of congress to try to
> sell his version of health care reform.>>>>>>

Lloyd Sez:

Maybe the real problem is that Obama tried to rush through a health care bill
without public hearings appropriate for a democratic society?

Maybe the real problem is that government panels (call them death or not, they
will decide when people die) were set-up in the stimulus bill. They will decide
what medical procedures people can get at what age and will result in the death
of older people rationed out of the system because of age. End of life
couseling is related, but not the main issue.

Daschle in his book and Zeke Emmanuel (Obama medical advisors) in his scholarly
writing have both endorsed rationing based on age by government edict.

Please wake-up. . . because you are an "ex" libertarian does not mean you have
to be an "ex" thinker!




Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:20 pm

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from http://lefthooktheblog.blogspot.com/ Tonight, the Obama went before a joint session of congress to try to sell his version of health care reform. His...
jeremyr
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Sep 10, 2009
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... Lloyd Sez: Maybe the real problem is that Obama tried to rush through a health care bill without public hearings appropriate for a democratic society? ...
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Sep 21, 2009
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... A far bigger problem are congenital liars who poison the public debate by pimping patent misinformation. Like what you've just done, there. ... Yes,...
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Sep 21, 2009
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There is plenty of backup for what I said. What about you? ... A far bigger problem are congenital liars who poison the public debate by pimping patent...
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Sep 21, 2009
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... There's no backup whatsoever for what you said. You parroted a lie that was circulated by the nut right when the stimulus bill was being assembled. They...
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Sep 21, 2009
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established a council to better disseminate research on the relative effectiveness of various medical treatment regimens and turned it into their first version...
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Sep 21, 2009
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What a surprise that the clown who Spams about "the tyranny that the Obama Democrats and the Rockefeller/Islaimic cabal behind them is trying to impose" also...
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Sep 21, 2009
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... Yet another lie. Here's the actual comment that was misrepresented in that manner by the goons at Fox News (among other right-wing sources): "[W]hat we can...
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Sep 22, 2009
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"Maybe a pacemaker isn't going to help? THAT is the context. Pain pills don't help hearts that are slowing down! THAT was the context. He ALSO said his...
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* YOU FAILED TO DEAL WITH DASCHLE AND ZEKE ... Because that's just more bullshit from--you guessed it--the SAME crackpot, Betsy McCaughey, writing in...
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