... condoned ... calls ... GOP ... It's clear what's going on here. The Democrats are saying: Hey, if you're going to make a stink about disenfranchising our...
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jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Dec 1, 2000 5:40 pm
We have bush and dick--the Republican notion of a balanced ticket--and now it seems we have colin, too. Now all they have to do is convince Oral Roberts to...
I thought this was interesting, esp in light of our current court situation... ... Subject: [Building a Stateless Society] Indian Women Pioneer InformalJustice...
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Chuck Kincy
ckincy@...
Dec 3, 2000 5:20 am
Hm. I wonder if Paulina voted for Ralph Nader, one of their major stockholders. /cpk ... From: <j_brice@...> To: <ex-Libertarian@egroups.com> Sent:...
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Gromit
rwgarr@...
Dec 3, 2000 12:46 pm
... Just wondering--is he actually one of their MAJOR stockholders (in terms of stock held), or just one of the best known? I recall seeing this question put...
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Gromit
rwgarr@...
Dec 3, 2000 12:54 pm
For anyone who still may be interested: Yesterday I went to the library and had a lot at that 1988 NBS (US gov't) report by Roy G. Saltman on voting...
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jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Dec 3, 2000 7:37 pm
It seems even the pathetic excuse for democracy we now have is to be tossed aside if it stands in the way of crowning George Bush, Jr.. If their questioning...
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Gromit
rwgarr@...
Dec 3, 2000 9:49 pm
... To tell you the truth, while this may, as you say, set from very bad precedents for future cases, I haven't paid it much attention so far. If I understand...
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jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Dec 4, 2000 7:58 am
... ____ "If the Florida court system basically awards Gore a victory, I think they would have done so in violation of the [U.S. Constitution]." -Rep. Tom...
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Calvin Ostrum
cbo@...
Dec 4, 2000 9:16 am
... Maybe you would not like the precedent, but it seems that Scalia is exactly correct that there is no right of suffrage, in terms of voting for electors,...
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Gromit
rwgarr@...
Dec 4, 2000 1:26 pm
... I found the whole thing too much to sit through, but did have it on as background a lot yesterday, enough to catch what was, for me, emblematic of the...
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Gromit
rwgarr@...
Dec 4, 2000 2:04 pm
... Just another comment here I'm going to make, precisely because I doubt if anyone else will bother to. In the Sunday courtroom proceedings, setting aside...
1642
Chuck Kincy
ckincy@...
Dec 4, 2000 3:42 pm
[gromit] ... my ... I see. OK for him to exploit the taxpayer via profits at Cisco, but not anyone else? What's that word? I think it starts with an "h", but...
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hij
hij@...
Dec 4, 2000 6:35 pm
... Gromit -- Thanks much for taking the time to check that out. Best, Heidi...
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jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Dec 5, 2000 7:44 am
... _____ There isn't one included there, because that was a thing to be handled at the state level (exactly the point of the section in question). The state...
1645
jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Dec 5, 2000 8:35 am
... ____ Repubs have been spreading the lie that the early call for Gore was done nearly an hour before polls closed in those sections of the panhandle in the...
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Darrell G. Eson
dgeson@...
Dec 5, 2000 9:55 am
Jeremy, Before you claim another STUPID quip about you being the better, read the signature. Darrell ... From: "Calvin Ostrum" <cbo@...> To:...
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Calvin Ostrum
cbo@...
Dec 5, 2000 11:23 am
... The phrase "states who want" is not very clear. Does a state want something by making a law for it, or rather by enshrining it in their constitution? The...
1648
jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Dec 6, 2000 8:52 am
... ____ You're quite correct. I was referring to the people in the states. ... ____ It could be either way, but a constitutional provision always takes...
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Calvin Ostrum
cbo@...
Dec 6, 2000 3:40 pm
... Which, of course, is still unclear. "The people" does not necessarily refer to a popular vote with a winner-take-all result. That's an even broader ...
1650
jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Dec 7, 2000 5:19 am
... ____ That's very true, but not particularly important to the comment that started this part of the exchange. ... _____ Yes. ... _____ That can't happen,...
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jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Dec 7, 2000 9:55 am
... _____ Well, it looks like I'm not alone in my estimation of Sanders Sauls' work. Here's an op-ed by Lawrence Levy that appeared in Long Island Newsday...
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Calvin Ostrum
cbo@...
Dec 7, 2000 4:08 pm
... Perhaps I spoke too quickly. If there really *was* such a right that was guaranteed by the constitution, it would seem to make legally impossible the idea...
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hij
hij@...
Dec 7, 2000 10:49 pm
... I think it's pretty obvious that Jeremy was referring to the guest "experts" whose ideological and institutional affilitions are not exactly obvious, Ann...
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Darrell G. Eson
dgeson@...
Dec 8, 2000 9:10 am
Calvin, You have splendidly pointed out articulately were non-Libertarian members here need to be educated it the fact that it is law that confines ...
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jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Dec 8, 2000 10:26 am
... ____ Exactly. ... _____ The stray comments of imbecile pundits don't trump a constitutional provision, Calvin. You're begging a question. You initial...
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Calvin Ostrum
cbo@...
Dec 8, 2000 4:09 pm
... But it doesn't enshrine such a right in the US Constitution. Perhaps it might even refer to a right provided by state legislation alone, not a right...
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Calvin Ostrum
cbo@...
Dec 8, 2000 4:33 pm
... Law has to be interpreted. The provisions of Article II section 1.2 seem fairly clear in plain words, but it is difficult to see how to square those words...
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hij
hij@...
Dec 8, 2000 6:14 pm
... No, Jeremy got a private email telling him of my unhappiness with that comment. My observation stands. Heidi...
