[jeremy] ... fans ... From the conclusions: Libertarianism -- Again as hypothesized, SF consumers were more socially libertarian, although they were not more...
2001
jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Mar 1, 2001 8:44 am
... ___ I can't imagine Libs would get much out of Star Trek. Think about what the Libs' reaction would be to the end of Star Trek II. Spock is dying because, ...
2002
Ronald W. Garrison
RGarrison1@...
Mar 1, 2001 2:27 pm
... what the ... because, ... radiation, ... outweigh ... rather ... As it relates to the issues at hand, the thing that always struck me about Star Trek was...
2003
Ronald W. Garrison
RGarrison1@...
Mar 1, 2001 3:24 pm
About a third of the way through the paper cited, there was this statement that I found interesting: Two things predict ideological consistency: higher...
2004
Kyle Varner
pyramous@...
Mar 1, 2001 4:02 pm
I went to a Sci-Fi con and had an OPH booth. What we found were about 50% Libertarian, 30% Liberal, 15% Centrist or Authoritarian, and 5% Conservative. ... ...
2005
Kyle Varner
pyramous@...
Mar 1, 2001 5:59 pm
Yeah, but there are other VERY Libertarian Sci-Fi books and films. Take for example, Robert Heinland's books (Does the word TANSTASFL mean anything to you?)....
2006
jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Mar 1, 2001 8:28 pm
... __ Yeah, and Spock put the whole thing pretty much the same way when he was talking to Kirk. I was thinking more of his rationale that the needs of the ...
2007
Kyle Varner
pyramous@...
Mar 1, 2001 8:42 pm
You must make a distinction between Libertarian and Anti-Altruistic. I am both. There are many Libertarians who are Altruists. Altruism is a question of...
2008
jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Mar 1, 2001 9:54 pm
... __ That's Heinlein. <caveat: I am a fan of some of Heinlein's stuff> I've never really understood the Libs attraction to him, though. Some of it is ...
2009
Chuck Kincy
ckincy@...
Mar 1, 2001 10:22 pm
[> = jeremy] ... I've never ... his work is ... mind-numbing ... attracted ... (probably the ... regarding ... ST is probably the second-most misunderstood...
2010
lightonliberty@...
Mar 1, 2001 10:38 pm
About 4 to 6 weeks ago the Kubbys fled to B.C. after their conviction for drug possession. Now Kubby claims that was just to escape the limelight and ...
2011
Chuck Kincy
ckincy@...
Mar 2, 2001 12:00 am
[lightonliberty] ... are just ... to avoid ... I'm not going to be as hard on Kubby, except to say that he's a complete idiot. However, an unjust law is an...
2012
Kenneth Blofsky
kenneth.blofsky@...
Mar 2, 2001 12:16 am
Some people think Star Trek is Fascist/Socialist (yes, you silly liberals, these two movements ARE the same, even if both of them wholeheartedly deny it and...
2013
jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Mar 2, 2001 12:35 am
... __ You can't help but pick up a whif of that from reading it--if, for no other reason, than because the entire world it envisions is ludicrous--but what ...
2014
jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Mar 2, 2001 1:01 am
... ___ And that Steve Kubby is being royally fucked over is not something that can be seriously questioned. To call submitting to this a matter of personal ...
2015
Jennifer L. Brice
j_brice@...
Mar 2, 2001 1:07 am
I think it depends on the author, and the show. Startreck fans are
definately liberals.
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2016
lightonliberty@...
Mar 2, 2001 6:28 am
Regards the support of the prospect that Kubby may flee the country. I believe that Libertarians are so defective that they are “subhuman” and not due the...
2017
Kyle Varner
pyramous@...
Mar 2, 2001 6:53 am
Personal Responsability means doing the right thing. It means paying your debts. It means that, should you get high and run down someone's fence in your car,...
2018
jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Mar 2, 2001 6:57 am
... ___ So disembowling a fellow human being is the same as jaywalking? Or having the wrong political opinions? That's the kind of ridiculous reductionist...
2019
jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Mar 2, 2001 7:17 am
... __ In that situation, I would say it includes not getting fucked up and trying to drive in the first place. __ ... ___ It is, if it is unqualified...
2020
Ronald W. Garrison
RGarrison1@...
Mar 2, 2001 2:43 pm
... laughable ... "Personal ... actions. If a ... think is ... matter of ... to ... breaking ... guilty ... jail him ... law. ... Ghandi had ... have. ... For...
2021
jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Mar 2, 2001 8:19 pm
... ___ The defense of necessity isn't really what's called for in the Kubby case (though it may be appropriate and might even work). You have to examine the...
2022
Kyle Varner
pyramous@...
Mar 2, 2001 9:23 pm
I don't think that Steve will leave the country <G> :) ... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN...
2023
Chuck Kincy
ckincy@...
Mar 2, 2001 9:32 pm
That's....strange. Maybe they don't want another Steve McReynolds. /cpk ... From: "Kyle Varner" <pyramous@...> To: <ex-libertarian@yahoogroups.com> ...
2024
jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Mar 4, 2001 7:18 am
All that Star Trek talk got me looking at the show again. I came across this tonight (not really related to Libertarianism, but amusing anyway) Your Starship...
2025
Ronald W. Garrison
RGarrison1@...
Mar 5, 2001 4:09 pm
A while ago, someone gave a link to an essay written in the early 20th century, on the relationship of Marxism to Darwinism. WRT social darwinism, there was a...
2026
jeremyr@...
Mar 5, 2001 5:33 pm
... ___ The social Darwinists were creating a pseudo-scientific rationale for the worst elements of capitalism. Any government intervention in the economy,...
2027
Ronald W. Garrison
RGarrison1@...
Mar 5, 2001 8:38 pm
... (from Ron's post--) ... Not sure what you mean by "you missed something"--remember, I didn't write this, I merely quoted it from a larger paper. ... In the...
2028
jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Mar 6, 2001 8:45 pm
... ___ Apparently, I forgot it at some point when I was writing that! Shoot me. ... ___ And the author is being overly kind. The SDs didn't come out against ...
2029
jeremy riddle
jeremyr@...
Mar 8, 2001 10:14 am
Well, it's what people are talking about this week, but, as usual, there's a critical element of the school shooting this week that's being almost wholly...
