On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Ryan Doherty <rdoherty@...> wrote:
Ryan,
I think there is a confusion here - ShowSlow.com is a public service that lets everyone try ShowSlow tool which in turn is an open source tool (primarily because I created it for internal use and had those privacy issues in mind).
More over, my internal use is a simple script (actually part of ShowSlow code) that runs Firefox periodically on the list of URLs (http://code.google.com/p/showslow/source/browse/trunk/showslow.sh). so it actually is used for automatic testing and that's how data in ShowSlow is created for some URLs (I can't run it for all URLs submitted due to financial constraints ;)).
Yeah, we had checked out ShowSlow before and during the creation of
Cesium.
There are a few key features that Cesium has that ShowSlow doesn't:
* Automatic testing - you don't have to remember to test your sites
* No issues with privacy (ShowSlow requires ySlow to beacon to it
every site you visit)
Ryan,
I think there is a confusion here - ShowSlow.com is a public service that lets everyone try ShowSlow tool which in turn is an open source tool (primarily because I created it for internal use and had those privacy issues in mind).
More over, my internal use is a simple script (actually part of ShowSlow code) that runs Firefox periodically on the list of URLs (http://code.google.com/p/showslow/source/browse/trunk/showslow.sh). so it actually is used for automatic testing and that's how data in ShowSlow is created for some URLs (I can't run it for all URLs submitted due to financial constraints ;)).
When I saw that you're from Mozilla, I thought you've created a XULRunner app or something similar to automate YSlow-ing, but now I opened the zip file I see that it's similar to ShowSlow in it's concept actually.
Main business goal for ShowSlow is to let teams of web developers to see how their sites are doing and their business bosses to be able to monitor performance over time without knowing all the technical details. This is why ShowSlow is not conceptually limited to YSlow and is going to be displaying any metric that is reasonable.
In addition to drawing results of the monitoring, it has a feature that I think is also very important - it allows tracking of the custom events so it becomes easier to analyze what caused changes in metrics. You can see a public beacon here: http://www.showslow.com/beacon/events/ and you can see example events here: http://www.showslow.com/details/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sergeychernyshev.com%2Fblog%2F
I clearly see my mistake in not meaking it obvious that ShowSlow is open source project. In my plans is to create a wiki-based site on http://www.showslow.org/ so all this can be documented properly and all.
I'll be happy to help your team to install ShowSlow if you're interested and I'd be happy to join forces with you guys or somehow else combine our efforts so we don't spend our time building the same tools.
Thank you,
Sergey
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Sergey Chernyshev
http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/
Main business goal for ShowSlow is to let teams of web developers to see how their sites are doing and their business bosses to be able to monitor performance over time without knowing all the technical details. This is why ShowSlow is not conceptually limited to YSlow and is going to be displaying any metric that is reasonable.
In addition to drawing results of the monitoring, it has a feature that I think is also very important - it allows tracking of the custom events so it becomes easier to analyze what caused changes in metrics. You can see a public beacon here: http://www.showslow.com/beacon/events/ and you can see example events here: http://www.showslow.com/details/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sergeychernyshev.com%2Fblog%2F
I clearly see my mistake in not meaking it obvious that ShowSlow is open source project. In my plans is to create a wiki-based site on http://www.showslow.org/ so all this can be documented properly and all.
I'll be happy to help your team to install ShowSlow if you're interested and I'd be happy to join forces with you guys or somehow else combine our efforts so we don't spend our time building the same tools.
Thank you,
Sergey
--
Sergey Chernyshev
http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/
Future ideas:
* API - allowing you to pull out performance data and use it anywhere
you want
* Accounts - setup your own sites and configuration
* Customizable homepage
-Ryan
On Jul 9, 2009, at 6:48 PM, Philip Tellis wrote:
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> Have you had a look at ShowSlow?
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> RD dropped bits saying:
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