Hi There,

I am guessing when you smush any image it gets uploaded on the server of
smush.it and after processing new image is returned to the user.

That means these images are on smush.it server before they are launching. I work
for one of the top financial institute in USA. We cannot send these images to
different servers because of the competition.

I proposed smush.it in front of my team. This limitation was discussed and we
couldn't use smush.it.

Is there any other way we can use smush.it with out uploading files on the
smush.it server?

Regards,
Vinod

Well, maybe you could use the programs smush.it uses. (FAQ)

Personally for pngs I use Png Optimizer and PNGOUT, and jpegtran for jpegs. The
first is a drag n drop application, the other two are command line tools (note
that PNGOUT also has a drag n drop version, but it's not freeware).

And building a batch processing script to use these applications is no big deal.
You put the files into folders like 'png' and 'jpg', do some directory listing,
and then run the programs with the appropriate paramateters.

For pngs you can even purchase pngoutwin for 30$ and then you only have to care
about jpegs batch processing.

- Balázs



--- In exceptional-performance@yahoogroups.com, "Vinod" <vinod_kerkar@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi There,
>
> I am guessing when you smush any image it gets uploaded on the server of
smush.it and after processing new image is returned to the user.
>
> That means these images are on smush.it server before they are launching. I
work for one of the top financial institute in USA. We cannot send these images
to different servers because of the competition.
>
> I proposed smush.it in front of my team. This limitation was discussed and we
couldn't use smush.it.
>
> Is there any other way we can use smush.it with out uploading files on the
smush.it server?
>
> Regards,
> Vinod
>

I wonder what smush.it does, but whenever I smush a image that I have
sized with image magic with the -thumbnail flag, I get no savings. I
wonder if they do the same thing.

Kirk Cerny


On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 4:00 AM, dereck009<galambalazs@...> wrote:
>
>
> Well, maybe you could use the programs smush.it uses. (FAQ)
>
> Personally for pngs I use Png Optimizer and PNGOUT, and jpegtran for jpegs.
> The first is a drag n drop application, the other two are command line tools
> (note that PNGOUT also has a drag n drop version, but it's not freeware).
>
> And building a batch processing script to use these applications is no big
> deal. You put the files into folders like 'png' and 'jpg', do some directory
> listing, and then run the programs with the appropriate paramateters.
>
> For pngs you can even purchase pngoutwin for 30$ and then you only have to
> care about jpegs batch processing.
>
> - Balázs
>
> --- In exceptional-performance@yahoogroups.com, "Vinod" <vinod_kerkar@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi There,
>>
>> I am guessing when you smush any image it gets uploaded on the server of
>> smush.it and after processing new image is returned to the user.
>>
>> That means these images are on smush.it server before they are launching.
>> I work for one of the top financial institute in USA. We cannot send these
>> images to different servers because of the competition.
>>
>> I proposed smush.it in front of my team. This limitation was discussed and
>> we couldn't use smush.it.
>>
>> Is there any other way we can use smush.it with out uploading files on the
>> smush.it server?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vinod
>>
>
>

  

  

I wonder what smush.it does, but whenever I smush a image that I have
sized with image magic with the -thumbnail flag, I get no savings. I
wonder if they do the same thing.

Kirk Cerny

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 4:00 AM, dereck009<galambalazs@... <mailto:galambalazs%40yahoo.co.uk> > wrote:
>
>
> Well, maybe you could use the programs smush.it uses. (FAQ)
>
> Personally for pngs I use Png Optimizer and PNGOUT, and jpegtran for jpegs.
> The first is a drag n drop application, the other two are command line tools
> (note that PNGOUT also has a drag n drop version, but it's not freeware).
>
> And building a batch processing script to use these applications is no big
> deal. You put the files into folders like 'png' and 'jpg', do some directory
> listing, and then run the programs with the appropriate paramateters.
>
> For pngs you can even purchase pngoutwin for 30$ and then you only have to
> care about jpegs batch processing.
>
> - Balázs
>
> --- In exceptional-performance@yahoogroups.com <mailto:exceptional-performance%40yahoogroups.com> , "Vinod" <vinod_kerkar@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi There,
>>
>> I am guessing when you smush any image it gets uploaded on the server of
>> smush.it and after processing new image is returned to the user.
>>
>> That means these images are on smush.it server before they are launching.
>> I work for one of the top financial institute in USA. We cannot send these
>> images to different servers because of the competition.
>>
>> I proposed smush.it in front of my team. This limitation was discussed and
>> we couldn't use smush.it.
>>
>> Is there any other way we can use smush.it with out uploading files on the
>> smush.it server?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vinod
>>
>
>
  
    

Thanks Stoyan for this info!

I think those who cannot user smush.it because of the situation which I am in
pngcrush, pngrewrite, OptiPNG, PNGOut are the options.

I wish we could use smush.it at work but i will where i can.

Great work Stoyan and Nicole.



--- In exceptional-performance@yahoogroups.com, Stoyan Stefanov <stoyan@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey Kirk, Vinod,
>
> The smush.it FAQ (http://smush.it/faq.php) and posts on YUIBlog
> (http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/11/14/imageopt-3/) describe what it does for
> every type of image file.
>
> Thanks,
> Stoya
>
>
> On 6/8/09 7:30 AM, "Kirk Cerny" <kirksemail@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I wonder what smush.it does, but whenever I smush a image that I have
> > sized with image magic with the -thumbnail flag, I get no savings. I
> > wonder if they do the same thing.
> >
> > Kirk Cerny
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 4:00 AM, dereck009<galambalazs@...
> > <mailto:galambalazs%40yahoo.co.uk> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Well, maybe you could use the programs smush.it uses. (FAQ)
> >> >
> >> > Personally for pngs I use Png Optimizer and PNGOUT, and jpegtran for
jpegs.
> >> > The first is a drag n drop application, the other two are command line
> >> tools
> >> > (note that PNGOUT also has a drag n drop version, but it's not freeware).
> >> >
> >> > And building a batch processing script to use these applications is no
big
> >> > deal. You put the files into folders like 'png' and 'jpg', do some
> >> directory
> >> > listing, and then run the programs with the appropriate paramateters.
> >> >
> >> > For pngs you can even purchase pngoutwin for 30$ and then you only have
to
> >> > care about jpegs batch processing.
> >> >
> >> > - Balázs
> >> >
> >> > --- In exceptional-performance@yahoogroups.com
> >> <mailto:exceptional-performance%40yahoogroups.com> , "Vinod"
> >> <vinod_kerkar@>
> >> > wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hi There,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I am guessing when you smush any image it gets uploaded on the server
of
> >>> >> smush.it and after processing new image is returned to the user.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> That means these images are on smush.it server before they are
launching.
> >>> >> I work for one of the top financial institute in USA. We cannot send
> >>> these
> >>> >> images to different servers because of the competition.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I proposed smush.it in front of my team. This limitation was discussed
> >>> and
> >>> >> we couldn't use smush.it.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Is there any other way we can use smush.it with out uploading files on
> >>> the
> >>> >> smush.it server?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Regards,
> >>> >> Vinod
> >>> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
>

I love the smush.it uploader, I would like to implement it on my site. Both the
option to do multiple selections and also asynchronous uploads with displaying
size.

Can this code be released?

If not.. Where can I find a similar open source code? It would be even more
ideal if it showed a progress bar too.

  

  

I love the smush.it uploader, I would like to implement it on my site. Both the option to do multiple selections and also asynchronous uploads with displaying size.

Can this code be released?

If not.. Where can I find a similar open source code? It would be even more ideal if it showed a progress bar too.

  
    

Hi,

I am trying to automate the YSlow report generation so that all the components
and the time taken for them to load can be written to a file on disk during
autorun.

However, I am not sure which is the right place to do this. I tried to call my
function in the registered function for "load" event in yslow-firefox.js

window.addEventListener("load", function(event) {
                                   
gBrowser.addProgressListener(tabProgressListener,
Components.interfaces.nsIWebProgress.NOTIFY_STATE_DOCUMENT);
                                    
this.write_result_to_file(this.panel.yslowContext);
                                 }, false);


However, the respTime values that I get are Null. Any suggestions?

Thanks

Why not just use ShowSlow?

http://www.showslow.com/

Philip


g dropped bits saying:

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to automate the YSlow report generation so that all the components
and the time taken for them to load can be written to a file on disk during
autorun.
>
> However, I am not sure which is the right place to do this. I tried to call my
function in the registered function for "load" event in yslow-firefox.js
>
> window.addEventListener("load", function(event) {
>                                  
gBrowser.addProgressListener(tabProgressListener,
Components.interfaces.nsIWebProgress.NOTIFY_STATE_DOCUMENT);
>                                   
this.write_result_to_file(this.panel.yslowContext);
>                                }, false);
>
>
> However, the respTime values that I get are Null. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>

A feature request here - I'd like YSlow to look at the scripts I have included
at the top of the page, analyze what their doing and the page is doing, and tell
me which ones it thinks are safe to move to the bottom.

A feature request here - I'd like YSlow to look at the scripts I have included at the top of the page, analyze what their doing and the page is doing, and tell me which ones it thinks are safe to move to the bottom.

JsLint might be able to help with this because it can tell you
functions that the script needs to work.
You will get an error if functions are missing that its trying to use.

Kirk Cerny

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Steve Souders<steve@...> wrote:
>
>
> That's a totally great suggestion. One way I approach coding projects like
> this is to look at what humans do to address the problem, and see if that
> can be replicated in code. When I'm looking for scripts to move to the
> bottom, here's what I do:
>     - Does it contain document.write? If so, leave it where it is (unless
> you can verify the document.write happens later).
>     - Is it a known monitoring script (Google Analytics, quantcast,
> omniture, etc.)? If so, these can often be moved to the bottom (depending on
> if/when the monitoring code is invoked).
>     - I see a number of places where big JS frameworks and other custom
> scripts are downloaded in a page, but the entire execution is kicked off on
> DOMContentLoaded or window.onload. For example, this is what the Carrington
> Blog WordPress theme does:
>             jQuery(document).ready(function($) {
> When I see that, I usually try to move the scripts to the bottom.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> -Steve
>
>
> On 6/10/2009 11:25 AM, snekse wrote:
>
> A feature request here - I'd like YSlow to look at the scripts I have
> included at the top of the page, analyze what their doing and the page is
> doing, and tell me which ones it thinks are safe to move to the bottom.
>
>

Steve, I can't believe how active you are on this list I get goose
bumps every time you post.
Its like I am talking to a celebrity.

Kirk Cerny

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Kirk Cerny<kirksemail@...> wrote:
> JsLint might be able to help with this because it can tell you
> functions that the script needs to work.
> You will get an error if functions are missing that its trying to use.
>
> Kirk Cerny
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Steve Souders<steve@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> That's a totally great suggestion. One way I approach coding projects like
>> this is to look at what humans do to address the problem, and see if that
>> can be replicated in code. When I'm looking for scripts to move to the
>> bottom, here's what I do:
>>     - Does it contain document.write? If so, leave it where it is (unless
>> you can verify the document.write happens later).
>>     - Is it a known monitoring script (Google Analytics, quantcast,
>> omniture, etc.)? If so, these can often be moved to the bottom (depending on
>> if/when the monitoring code is invoked).
>>     - I see a number of places where big JS frameworks and other custom
>> scripts are downloaded in a page, but the entire execution is kicked off on
>> DOMContentLoaded or window.onload. For example, this is what the Carrington
>> Blog WordPress theme does:
>>             jQuery(document).ready(function($) {
>> When I see that, I usually try to move the scripts to the bottom.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>
>> On 6/10/2009 11:25 AM, snekse wrote:
>>
>> A feature request here - I'd like YSlow to look at the scripts I have
>> included at the top of the page, analyze what their doing and the page is
>> doing, and tell me which ones it thinks are safe to move to the bottom.
>>
>>
>

I just checked the new winzip and it has an intresting feature, it can compress
jpegs losslessly. I don't know what it does, but for 100+ kB files it produced
15-20% savings.

This is fantastic, especially if we consider that compressing jpegs was
considered to be useless.

I searched for it on Google, and found out that winzip is not the only tool for
effective jpeg compression.

e.g.: Here is a benchmark: http://www.maximumcompression.com/data/jpg.php


So idea that jpegs are not worth zipping is beaten.

I think that the web industry should react to that fact. Web servers should be
able to compress jpegs, and browsers should be able to handle them, with
backward compatibility in mind, of course.

I don't know the overhead of this compression though.

Opinions?

It's fantastic that we have all these great recommendation from Souders and this
group but there seems to be little data available that demonstrates why page
performance is so important.

I've found a few comments from Google, and a study Amazon did that linked
performance to sales, but are there studies, conclusions from researchers or
companies, that can be referenced to really demonstrate the power of page
performance?

If someone asked you, say from a business team, to convince them that it was
important how would you do it?

I would say

"Faster sites mean users do more stuff."

Actually I already did say that:

http://www.drunkenfist.com/304/2008/12/29/why-front-end-performance-matters-to-e\
veryone/

Rob

> It's fantastic that we have all these great recommendation from Souders
> and this group but there seems to be little data available that
> demonstrates why page performance is so important.
>
> I've found a few comments from Google, and a study Amazon did that linked
> performance to sales, but are there studies, conclusions from researchers
> or companies, that can be referenced to really demonstrate the power of
> page performance?
>
> If someone asked you, say from a business team, to convince them that it
> was important how would you do it?
>
>

Thanks for the replies.

But I'm really looking for clear data and specific results to satisfy business
types. Aside from the Amazon experiment and the two Google ones, are there any
other examples that can be cited?

I think it's important and far more persuasive to be able to provide good data
rather than rely on the assertion that "it's a good thing".

Maybe the info I'm looking for isn't available but I figured if any group would
know about it, it would be this one.

--- In exceptional-performance@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Larsen" <Rob@...> wrote:
>
> I would say
>
> "Faster sites mean users do more stuff."
>
> Actually I already did say that:
>
>
http://www.drunkenfist.com/304/2008/12/29/why-front-end-performance-matters-to-e\
veryone/
>
> Rob
>
> > It's fantastic that we have all these great recommendation from Souders
> > and this group but there seems to be little data available that
> > demonstrates why page performance is so important.
> >
> > I've found a few comments from Google, and a study Amazon did that linked
> > performance to sales, but are there studies, conclusions from researchers
> > or companies, that can be referenced to really demonstrate the power of
> > page performance?
> >
> > If someone asked you, say from a business team, to convince them that it
> > was important how would you do it?
> >
> >
>

It's fantastic that we have all these great recommendation from Souders and this group but there seems to be little data available that demonstrates why page performance is so important.

I've found a few comments from Google, and a study Amazon did that linked performance to sales, but are there studies, conclusions from researchers or companies, that can be referenced to really demonstrate the power of page performance?

If someone asked you, say from a business team, to convince them that it was important how would you do it?

I would say

"Faster sites mean users do more stuff."

Actually I already did say that:

http://www.drunkenfist.com/304/2008/12/29/why-front-end-performance-matters-to-everyone/

Rob

> It's fantastic that we have all these great recommendation from Souders
> and this group but there seems to be little data available that
> demonstrates why page performance is so important.
>
> I've found a few comments from Google, and a study Amazon did that linked
> performance to sales, but are there studies, conclusions from researchers
> or companies, that can be referenced to really demonstrate the power of
> page performance?
>
> If someone asked you, say from a business team, to convince them that it
> was important how would you do it?
>
>

It's difficult to collect data with artificial delays on production -
your product owner would have objections, I assume. On the other hand,
staffing a performance team and binding resources without data is
difficult, too.

(Measuring the effect of optimizations that came among a complete
redesign is interesting, but delivers no hard data for performance
studies.)

I think our research panel could design a double-blind trial with the
under-the-hood-optimizations we make, and measure points like activity
on our platform in both groups (optimized and placebo).

Ingo

Thanks for providing such a useful tool.

Smush.it is currently complaining,
     "Failed to create a temp dir"

Could someone fix it please.

Thanks

Adam

I'm having a problem with this.

I run YSlow on a site, go to the tools tab, click All Smush.it, a new browser
tab opens it displays all the images on the site briefly and then they all
disppear, leaving me looking at a blank SmushIt results table with no images in
it !!

Any ideas ?

Cheers,
Colm

It's also worth considering that faster pages mean less stress on servers and
browsers, so they use less electricity - and most people pay for electricity.

I'm getting errors, too.

The URL provided in the API demo (
http://smush.it/ws.php?img=http://smush.it/css/skin/screenshot.png )
says 'failed to open stream' after trying to fopen the file.


--- In exceptional-performance@yahoogroups.com, Adam <adam@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for providing such a useful tool.
>
> Smush.it is currently complaining,
>     "Failed to create a temp dir"
>
> Could someone fix it please.
>
> Thanks
>
> Adam
>

  

  

I'm getting errors, too.

The URL provided in the API demo (
http://smush.it/ws.php?img=http://smush.it/css/skin/screenshot.png )
says 'failed to open stream' after trying to fopen the file.

--- In exceptional-performance@yahoogroups.com <mailto:exceptional-performance%40yahoogroups.com> , Adam <adam@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for providing such a useful tool.
>
> Smush.it is currently complaining,
>     "Failed to create a temp dir"
>
> Could someone fix it please.
>
> Thanks
>
> Adam
>

  
    

Hey Colm,

In you don¹t get an answer here, you can contact the YSlow team at:
http://developer.yahoo.com/yslow/feedback.html

Best,
Stoyan


On 6/12/09 2:04 AM, "colm_debarra" <c_debarra@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm having a problem with this.
>
> I run YSlow on a site, go to the tools tab, click All Smush.it, a new browser
> tab opens it displays all the images on the site briefly and then they all
> disppear, leaving me looking at a blank SmushIt results table with no images
> in it !!
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Cheers,
> Colm
>
>
>
>
>