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Re: [XP] Stupid questions: Would a "glossary" qualify as a system m   Message List  
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RE: [XP] Stupid questions: Would a "glossary" qualify as a system metaphor?

Luiz,

Teams work more effectively when members have personal perspectives on a
shared understanding of the system and the problems it addresses. When I
want to gauge a team's shared understanding, I ask members individually to
explain their system to me using four objects. If everyone comes up with
similar objects, they share a metaphor. Wildly divergent objects suggest the
team could benefit from working on shared understanding.

Sincerely yours,

Kent Beck
Three Rivers Institute

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> On 2/21/06, yahoogroups@... <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
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> > That's basically it. I usually put it that the metaphor
> helps construct
> > the shared mental model of the system architecture, both from the
> > developer's viewpoint and the user's viewpoint.
> >
> > It's the shared mental model that makes things work. The important
> > thing is to have one that's effective; it's less important
> how one got it.
> >
> > John Roth
>
> Hi John,
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> If you had to measure the efffectiveness of a metaphor how would you
> go about it?
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Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:47 am

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From: "Anil Hemrajani" <anildh.at.gmail.com@...> To: "extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com" ...
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Any good examples of good metaphors? Might come in handy really soon :) Andrei ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Andrei Maxim
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... Hi John, If you had to measure the efffectiveness of a metaphor how would you go about it? Thanks -- Luiz Esmiralha Accenture - Brazil Tel.: +55 (21)...
Luiz Esmiralha
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Feb 21, 2006
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... I wouldn't measure it, other than "the more it makes things clear, the better". I was never that fond of the original XP's recommendation for a Metaphor....
Paolo "Nusco" Perrotta
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Feb 21, 2006
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Hi Paolo, ... If the system is clear enough "on it's own" then I'd suggest you have a superb metaphor. Do you have a "model" and a "view"? That's a metaphor. ...
Charlie Poole
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Feb 21, 2006
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... I agree on this, and on everything that follows. The metaphor I was (somewhat clumsily) criticizing is the classic XP Metaphor. My point is that whenever...
Paolo "Nusco" Perrotta
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Feb 21, 2006
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I was sorry to see metaphor go. I understand why it went, as it has been greatly misused and misunderstood, but I was still sorry. Usually, when business...
Charlie Poole
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Feb 22, 2006
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Luiz, Teams work more effectively when members have personal perspectives on a shared understanding of the system and the problems it addresses. When I want to...
Kent Beck
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Feb 22, 2006
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From: "Luiz Esmiralha" <esmiralha.at.gmail.com@...> To: "extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com" ...
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