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What happens when we pursue even better humanity in our workplaces?
Should we always treat humanity and productivity as the target of
trade-off? XP seeks the rarely recognized quadrant where both humanity
and productivity roar in the 2x2 matrix.

In my team we work 16 hours a week. In my country working 50 to 60
hours is a norm, especially in this industry. Working 16 hours is an
impossible choice. Have a look at the graph that I made at
http://swivel.com/graphs/show/8434906 This country resides far away
from the trend(that one with almost 2400 hours annually). The US is
another outlier.

What do they do in the rest of their time? One guy in the team is
learning electric guitar, preparing for 10km marathon, translating a
book(agile retrospectives), participating in a study group for Erlang
and planning to take a trip to the sea shore.

I consider my work as a social experiment.

Because we are working only 16 hours, we think about how to make more
value day by day, more seriously. How could we deliver more value by
less? Where is the leverage? These are the questions we try to answer
every working day. I believe we are producing much more value than a
team with 40 or 50 hours a week.

We are using a few XP practices unconsciously, like Sit Together,
Whole Team, Informative Workspace, Energized Work, Pair Programming,
Stories, Weekly Cycle and etc.

Oh, BTW, from the day 1 of development, we released. The service ran
on one of our team members home PC -- the company didn't get server
ready yet.

June



Sat Apr 7, 2007 8:14 pm

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What happens when we pursue even better humanity in our workplaces? Should we always treat humanity and productivity as the target of trade-off? XP seeks the...
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Apr 8, 2007
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June Kim
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Apr 8, 2007
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June, Thank you for the provocative posting. What if we're all working way too many hours? What would happen if we made our work hours more effective and had...
Kent Beck
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Apr 25, 2007
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... We work 4 hours in the afternoon for Monday, 4 hours in the forenoon for Tuesday, 8 hours for Thursday. On Thursday, we feel literally exhausted after the...
June Kim
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Apr 25, 2007
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Hi June! ... Seeking the "both/and" answer to your question rather than "either/or" seems to me one of the foundations for XP/Agile values & principles and...
DianaLarsen Offline Send Email Apr 8, 2007
3:03 pm

... "either/or" seems to me one ... work with this crowd of ... I agree very strongly with this view. However, I'm not so sure about the word "productivity."...
dnicolet99 Offline Send Email Apr 8, 2007
4:04 pm

... I understand your point. Then what about using "business value" instead of productivity in my original wording? ... Sorry for the confusion. Could you...
June Kim
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Apr 8, 2007
5:24 pm

... Why not just "value," with the understanding that "value" is determined from the point of view of the user? Say we're writing software to control dialysis...
dnicolet99 Offline Send Email Apr 8, 2007
6:51 pm

... I agree. And yet I'm even less sure what is implied by pursuing better "humanity". It's clear we should treat people like people and not like some type of...
Steve Bate
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Apr 8, 2007
5:25 pm

... Great! What you did under your situation is truly admirable. I think you are a very exceptional case. I have surveyed and interviewed many people who are...
June Kim
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Apr 8, 2007
5:58 pm

... That sounds very much like the situation in the IT industry in the United States from at least the mid-1970s through the mid-1990s. It was an era of...
dnicolet99 Offline Send Email Apr 8, 2007
6:40 pm

dnicolet99 wrote: [snip] ... Back when this was the only 'agile' list, there was plenty of discussion about topics that now may seem peripheral to XP....
Dave Rooney
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Apr 8, 2007
7:05 pm

... Agreed. The topic ... all topics agile-related ... is welcome here. If the list gets busy, so be it. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com I could be wrong,...
Ron Jeffries
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Apr 8, 2007
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Sounds good to me. I was just trying to respect the stated topic of the board. If the consensus is to deal with a broad range of agile-related topics, I'm all...
dnicolet99 Offline Send Email Apr 8, 2007
11:19 pm

... Hi June, Thanks for the pointers. For the purposes of your agile social experiment, how do you define "work"? For example Gorz writes... "By work we have...
Steve Bate
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Apr 8, 2007
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2007/4/9, Steve Bate <steve@...>: [snip] ... I suppose we get paid less than 40-hours workers with similar years of experience to us, but not as...
June Kim
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Apr 22, 2007
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... Hi Diana! ... I agree. ... Norway. (Sorry. Due to the limitation of Swivel, I couldn't label every dot in the graph with the name of the country) ... I did...
June Kim
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Apr 8, 2007
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... In your country, the population went from dirt-poor to Western-country rich in about a generation. I'm not a fan of hard work personally, but I have seen...
George Paci
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Apr 10, 2007
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2007/4/10, George Paci <gpaci@...>: [snip] ... I am the president of a consulting company but have no regular employees yet; I usually hire people from a...
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