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I was setting up a simple task-board for myself when my boss started
griping. I wasn't doing anything fancy, just index cards organized
into basic status columns of to-do, in-progress, and done. Halfway
through I find myself getting grilled as to why I don't just use a
spreadsheet, iCal, or even a simple text-file. I honestly couldn't
answer. Why does a physical task-board seem so much better? Perhaps
it's just me, but my gut feeling is that it's easier to just look up
and see everything at a glance. But I honestly can't explain why a
text file that's only a double-click away is any worse. Hell, I could
be really lazy and keep the thing permanently open on another screen.

While this particular board is for one-person only, the question could
be extended to groups. What value does a physical task-board give a
team that some other method does not? What might the issues be with,
say, a computer with a large monitor in the center of the room
containing the same information? Why does a shared wiki seem more
cumbersome? Are a few extra clicks between you and a spreadsheet
really so much to ask?




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I was setting up a simple task-board for myself when my boss started griping. I wasn't doing anything fancy, just index cards organized into basic status...
Milo
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Hello, In a former project, I tried putting the taskboard in electronic form. We had a very large TV screen, more than 1.5 meter diagonal, and a dedicated PC...
Arnaud Bailly
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Feb 11, 2009
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... There's only ever one version of a physical task board. It won't get locked over lunch (or overnight) if someone starts to make a change but gets ...
Dave Smith
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Feb 11, 2009
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... I agree with this, and with Arnaud's statement about the human need to connect the senses. But are these things really that important?...
Milo
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Feb 11, 2009
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... Yes. Unless you are a Vulcan, I guess. And even those might just be kidding themselves. Serious, Ilja...
Ilja Preuß
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Feb 11, 2009
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Hello, Milo. On Wednesday, February 11, 2009, at 3:16:22 AM, you ... Let me be sure I understand your question. You are asking whether human needs are...
Ron Jeffries
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Feb 11, 2009
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If you're looking for a theory to account for the usefulness of the physical board? The Russian psychologist Vygotsky (developmental psychology) considered all...
Allen Higgins
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Feb 11, 2009
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... A monitor - has a much worse resolution - no 3D (which both makes it much more straining to look at) - is less flexible in what you can do with it (try...
Ilja Preuß
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Feb 11, 2009
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... Yes!! Oh Yes! The difference between push and pull, between an information radiator and an information source... to me. But not, apparently, to many...
Doug Swartz
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Feb 12, 2009
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... How would you respond to the argument that valuing a radiator like an RSS feed over a source like an intranet site amounts to laziness?...
Milo
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Hello, Milo. On Wednesday, February 11, 2009, at 10:55:30 PM, you ... Efficiency is good for the company. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com ...
Ron Jeffries
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... I would agree - I am lazy... And I'd ask (have asked) why the company wants me to waste my time looking for information which might or might not be...
Doug Swartz
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Feb 12, 2009
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Exactly! For programmers, lazyness is a virtue. Ask your manager to tell your customers if they weren't that lazy, they wouldn't need your software at all......
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Hello, Milo. On Wednesday, February 11, 2009, at 2:16:54 AM, you ... Why add that expensive sports car to the garage? Why not just drive the clunker but have...
Ron Jeffries
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Feb 11, 2009
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... There's a point that I haven't seen brought up yet: the actual effect of "radiate" is that, when you're taking a break, if only to take a deep breath and...
John Roth
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Feb 11, 2009
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Task boards are cool because: 1) it's not a double-click away (if you happen to have file browser open to begin with) 2) Physical things have a coercive...
Tim Ottinger
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... Of course, that leads to the Security Police forbidding task boards and mandating online status tools only... (Otherwise, Bad People without Need To Know...
Malapine
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... There is a risk for some companies that someone will wander through, see what looks like a project plan, will draw some interpretation based on the...
Dave Smith
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... Do you know of a case where this actually has happened? I would love to hear more about that. Frankly, it sounds quite dysfunctional to me, and the...
Ilja Preuß
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... Several cases, and I can't give specifics. One involved a less than ideal work situation where development had to share a conference room with Sales....
Dave Smith
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... I can kind of understand that you might want to prevent to leak information to outsiders. I thought you were also talking about reducing transparency...
Ilja Preuß
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... For that, I have a counter-example: A very big information radiator (three 3x5 whiteboards on their sides in a high-traffic hallway) showing a project ...
Dave Smith
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From one Dave to another... ... The sun doesn't care whether you get a tan or not. It just shines on. There's another one about horses and water, too, I think....
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Hi Ilja, ... I have a related story. A team I worked with provided web sites for various publications, all published by the same company but by different...
Charlie Poole
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Hi Charlie, ... You would have had my support. :) Cheers, Ilja...
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... A digital camera works pretty well. -- ... * George Dinwiddie * http://blog.gdinwiddie.com Software Development...
George Dinwiddie
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Feb 12, 2009
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... 12) a corkboard gives you a reason to get up from your desk frequently. 13) People can see you standing at the corkboard....
Tim Ottinger
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Feb 11, 2009
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... Oh, yes! Good point! Thanks, Ilja...
Ilja Preuß
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OTOH 3) Consider the visible/public task-board process as proprietary IP or know-how, a business process that confers so much advantage they'd prefer to hide...
Allen Higgins
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