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Re: [XP] Question about YAGNI and DTSTTCPW


--- David Rosenstrauch <darose@...> wrote:
> If the data is stored in an XML file, you can add stuff without
> needing to do conversion.

While writing XML is easy, parsing it is hard. Finding a parser that
fits into embedded environments (the context of this problem) might be
a tad challenging. Writing code that could handle it would definitely
bloat things quite a bit. XML may work, but let's not have the illusion
that it is simple.

Regards,

Rob


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A coworker of mine is working on an application (embedded S/W) that has a flat file database. His task involves adding functionality to the code and fields to... 		Paul Michali
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Paul, Seems to me a large part of your "problem" has to do with your "database". Is it still the simplest thing that works, or do you really need something...
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... Neat. Who's got it? Ronald E Jeffries http://www.XProgramming.com http://www.objectmentor.com...
Ron Jeffries
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... IT amy be to the point now, that a more sophisticated DB is needed. The DB is not large and the product is cost sensitive (so we can't add some expensive...
Paul Michali
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... DBMS vendors? Not sure I fully understand your remark, though... Best, Peter...
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... I was hoping to get a list of vendors who offer a database capability not much heavier than flat files, but with schema evolution. Ronald E Jeffries ...
Ron Jeffries
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... Don't write the converter program until you need it. Save it in source control. Add the three or four extra lines of code it takes next time the structure ...
Eric Bennett
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If the data file is small enough, XML seems like a good fit. Jim...
Jim Kimball
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2:42 pm

... If the data is stored in an XML file, you can add stuff without needing to do conversion. DR...
David Rosenstrauch
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4:41 pm

... While writing XML is easy, parsing it is hard. Finding a parser that fits into embedded environments (the context of this problem) might be a tad...
Robert Sartin
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... I concur with this. I'd go with flat files for a while before going to XML unless I had a really light and easy XML parser in my hip pocket. I love XML...
Ron Jeffries
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... I somewhat disagree with the assumption that YAGNI and TSTTCPW require not adding extra space. Changes in record size are a very real problem with that...
Robert Sartin
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... It all comes down to cost-vs-risk. This is why YAGNI is such a successful technique. You'd know if Y_are_GNI fairly early on in a project's lifecycle. ...
Dossy
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... We must determine MotherhoodStories before a project starts. (Consider the dreaded Internationalization mother of all stories!) XP shuns the BDUF...
Phlip
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... Yes. We all know the technique. However, is knowing the technique a reason for DOING the technique, or for being comfortable that we can do it the next...
Ron Jeffries
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... to the ... just fine! Inability to achieve perfection is a pretty poor reason not to strive for it. A few slips won't kill you, as long as you either...
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... have is 'XML by Example' from Que. ... 8-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/103-3381366-4397414 ... some nice tutorials on the web. (And quite a few awful ones, too) ... ...
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XML IS boring as hell...are you expecting the Great American Novel ;>)!!...
Glen B. Alleman
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Well at least it has plenty of SAX. ... Novel ;>)!! ... -- Glen :P...
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But afterward you'll need some SOAP to feel good again...
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