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I woke up at four this morning gripped with fear. The first
iteration of our company's first XP project is set to begin a week
from Monday. It is my first official XP project and I am the Coach.

The Planning Game has gone well, but the closer we get to that start
date, the more my fear grows. The team consists of six developers
(of which I am one), all with more experience than me. My fear is
focused mainly on maintaining disclipline with TDD.

I have confidence that my pair and I will be able to stay disciplined
with TDD, but the four people in the other two pairs will all be
doing TDD for the first time. I have been preparing a demo of TDD on
the platform we are using (ATG), but I don't think it is realistic to
simply walk the team through a contrived example and then send them
merrily on their way.

The thought crossed my mind this morning that it might be better to
start the project with two people, myself and another person. Once
we feel confident enough, we can bring in two other people, with the
two newbies alternating between the two original developers. Once
one of the newbies feels confident enough, we can bring in the final
two people.

This idea relieved my fear but raised another question. How would we
do our Iteration Plan with so much uncertainty about when people come
on board?

Dave Hoover
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I woke up at four this morning gripped with fear. The first iteration of our company's first XP project is set to begin a week from Monday. It is my first...
Dave Hoover <dave@...>
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Feb 8, 2003
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... What would happen if you don't maintain TDD discipline? ... What do you mean "your pair"? If there are six people, you personally have five potential...
Ron Jeffries
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Feb 8, 2003
2:08 pm

Ron, ... We will not reap the benefits of TDD (confidence, testable design, tests as documentation, validation). ... When I say "my pair," I mean, "the person...
Dave Hoover <dave@...>
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Feb 8, 2003
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... Are all the team members committed to try? If so, how far wrong can you go before everyone gets decent at it? And what way other than TDD do you know that...
Ron Jeffries
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Feb 8, 2003
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Ron, ... I'm not sure if they are committed. They appear willing. ... I suppose *my* lack of XP experience makes it harder for me to cope with the fear that...
Dave Hoover <dave@...>
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Feb 8, 2003
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... OHHH NOOOO. And you were doing so well, too. The desks should be arranged like THIS! [] [] [] You're doomed! Except that with a bunch of people who care...
Ron Jeffries
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Feb 8, 2003
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... I thought it wasn't truly XP unless the three desks were in a triangle. Right? Or is it in a U? How come this isn't more thoroughly documented? There...
Dave Hoover <dave@...>
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Feb 8, 2003
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... This may indicate there was a series of times where you had the opportunity to be gripped by a small amount of fear, but you repressed each one. It built ...
Phlip
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Feb 8, 2003
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Phlip, ... I have been feeling a boatload of emotions (including fear) since I first presented XP to upper management. I think this morning's fear is more...
Dave Hoover <dave@...>
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Feb 8, 2003
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... Ouch. If the demo is in your project's native language it's more effective. But if the demo is in a "real OO language" it's much more likely to accept ...
Phlip
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Feb 8, 2003
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Phlip, ... Both the demo and the project will be in Java on ATG Dynamo. ... I'm not sure what you mean by "chronic tests." ... I'm not sure what you're trying...
Dave Hoover <dave@...>
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... Test Infection. ... Oh my. I thought I was just restating to the group what you already knew. Scenario 1: Team uses system X. Skeptical boss asks for TDD...
Phlip
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Phlip, ... Ah, I agree. ... This is what I'm shooting for! Except I don't particularly care if my boss is happy. I care if my teammates can successfully...
Dave Hoover <dave@...>
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... This might be a good place to point out that XP SanDiego delivered a lecture this Thursday, to a crowd of 25 packed into a tiny conference room (because ...
Phlip
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Feb 8, 2003
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... I like the "Fear is the mind killer" quite, but lately I've adjusted it slightly into "Fear is the mind *closer*". I agree the kind of fear Dave described...
Brad Appleton
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Feb 9, 2003
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Brad, ... I'm not sure if there is such a thing as "bad" fear. I think the critical distinction is a person's recognition of fear *as* fear. For instance, the...
Dave Hoover <dave@...>
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... Are you sure there's any more uncertainty? My experience is that the first couple of plans are pretty wild guesses, and that no matter what it'll be a...
William Pietri
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Feb 9, 2003
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William, Ron asked the question, "How far wrong can you go in one iteration?" It's a good argument for starting with the full team. We're going to have to...
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... I thought it was a good argument for "it doesn't matter which way you start". ;-> Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Wisdom begins when we discover the...
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