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Re: XP obstacles, was: alternatives to IXP... (non-falsifiab le theories)

--- In extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com, "CORUM, M E [AG/1000]"
<m.e.corum@m...> wrote:
> This thread is moving faster than I can keep up with. Well, I
actually
> did try to get the director to talk to developers both with me
there and
> without me there. The director says that the developers are
unlikely to
> tell the truth to management either way. Hmmm. This was a
defining moment
> for me. That and when the director told me with a straight face
that it
> didn't matter what the metrics said. Management would choose to
ignore
> the metrics if they wanted to. This is what I'm up against and
maybe my
> situation is so unique that I'm over-reacting to Josh's branding
of IXP
> (not over-reacting based on my situation but based on the average
of how
> management behaves across IT shops). Is there some kind of
wonderful world
> out there where if I showed managers some charts with double
productivity
> and 10X fewer bugs that they would actually listen or even better,
ask me
> how they could do this on other projects? Oh, to dream.

I'm reading Lean Transformation, which is full of stories of
dramatic improvements in manufacturing quality and productivity that
are immediately dismantled as soon as the consultants leave the
building, even at the eventual cost of the jobs of the people doing
the dismantling. Which is to say, you are not alone.

Harvard Business Review has an article this month about Bill
Bratton, who has turned around 5 police organizations, including the
whole of NYPD. You should read the article, but the sequence I took
away was:
* Put the managers in direct contact with the problem
* Focus you resources on the single worst problem
* Enlist powerful allies
* Marginalize or eliminate naysayers

Not a program for the weak of heart, but then we've already
established that we are foolhardy, a conjunction of "fool"
and "hardy".

Kent




Thu May 1, 2003 6:07 pm

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This thread is moving faster than I can keep up with. Well, I actually did try to get the director to talk to developers both with me there and without me...
CORUM, M E [AG/1000]
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... actually ... there and ... unlikely to ... defining moment ... that it ... ignore ... maybe my ... of IXP ... of how ... wonderful world ... productivity ...
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... Tipping Point Leadership (the name of the Bill Bratton article you mention below), offers the counter example: crime continued to drop after Bill left the...
Joshua Kerievsky
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He, he. The movie I saw the other day about a WWII bombing squadron, had a plane named "The Leper Colony" for those not following orders. -d ... From: "Joshua...
David Vydra
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... Yes, it would be for me as well. It tells a lot of the tale in one sentence, doesn't it? ... Well, they will, and they have that right. I believe that...
Ron Jeffries
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... I was just thinking (for a change): People will surely lie to management if it is strongly enough to their advantage to do so. So management needs to make...
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... From: "Dale Emery" <dale.at.dhemery.com@...> To: "extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com" ...
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Hi Mike, ... If you (or others) are worried that people will not tell the truth, try increasing people's safety by asking them to provide the information...
Dale Emery
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... A problem I've run into in the past is that, if the group of people have nbeen working together for a while, people get pretty good at recognizing the...
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Hi Brad, ... If somebody really wants to figure out who wrote what, sometimes spelling provides clues. I'll bet I could recognize my friend Ttimm's unique...
Dale Emery
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... I used to work with a company that provided web-based tools that aggregated anonymous structured opinions on how to solve problems. The system was open in...
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Hi Alex, ... I think that can work if (1) there really is no chance of that happening and (2) people trust that there is no chance of that happening. That...
Dale Emery
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... People who have something to say, sign their words. People who quote other opinions prefer or ideas prefer to stay anonymous. -> Such a tool has no real...
Georg Tuparev
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... It seems to me as I read these past few missives that if we need anonymity, there is something else wrong that might be the first thing to address. Ron...
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... I always hated the course evaluations in college. Strangely, more so as a student than an instructor. I vowed early on to sign every evaluation knowing...
Curtis Cooley
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Hi Curtis, ... In case I wasn't clear before, I am not suggesting building anonymity into a regular practice. I'm recommending anonymity as a temporary first...
Dale Emery
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... Kent speaks privately with them. He is able to communicate somehow that they can trust him not to violate their confidence. Ron Jeffries ...
Ron Jeffries
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Hi Ron, ... Okay. Yeah, I do that too, when I'm not the person people are reluctant to speak their mind to. Dale -- Web: http://www.dhemery.com Weblog:...
Dale Emery
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Hi, Ron, Everybody, ... What a wonderful skill to have!! Perhaps Kent is reading this, and would tell us more about how he does that. Or someone who has...
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... IXP... ... somehow that ... does that. I don't have a recipe. Perhaps it's because I've made bigger mistakes than most everyone I meet and I take no pains...
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Hi Ron, ... Definitely. If people are not telling me what they believe, that is a clear sign of a relationship problem. The only way I know to start healing...
Dale Emery
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Thanks for all the helpful replies I've gotten on this thread. I think one of the simple but powerful metaphors for me was the "change is a disease" paper. I...
CORUM, M E [AG/1000]
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Sorry to come late into this thread. Some suggestions for you. Try to avoid confrontation - schedule meetings to talk on neutral territory, invite someone...
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... When I'm confronted with irrationality like this, I like to play dumb. I pretend that the person I'm talking to is smart and correct, and I ask basic...
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