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157752 George Dinwiddie
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May 15, 2012
7:39 pm
Paul, ... Perhaps that says that BDD is *more* tool agnostic. Certainly the languages of Cucumber and Rspec are very different. What TDD book doesn't include a...
157753 George Dinwiddie
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May 15, 2012
8:19 pm
Paul, ... You might also be interested in ATDD By Example (http://amzn.to/Kdkyt3) by Markus Gartner, due out in July. I've not read the final text of this ...
157754 MarvinToll.com
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May 15, 2012
9:09 pm
Alright... I'll answer these question and then I'll shut-up about this. ... The effort invested in establishing, communicating and providing a reference...
157755 PAUL
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May 15, 2012
11:18 pm
Hi George, ... Thanks for the book recommendations. I've visited Goyko's website and thought yes! I must get his book. I'm not anti-BDD. I use BDD by choice...
157756 Charlie Poole
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May 16, 2012
12:07 am
Hi George, ... My first intro to BDD was in the days of jBehave. The person explaining it to me told me my personal view of testing was fatally flawed because...
157757 RonJeffries
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May 16, 2012
12:30 am
Hi Charlie, ... I confess that I don't like it either, and for the same reason I don't like most of the given when thingies: I can't read them easily as...
157758 Charlie Poole
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May 16, 2012
1:39 am
Hi Ron, ... That's why it's good to have a choice of tools or for a tool like NUnit to give a choice of syntaxes. As I have said before, I didn't implement the...
157759 extremeprogrammer
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May 16, 2012
7:26 am
... "xUnit Patterns" means "Patterns for Using xUnit", not "Using xUnit to Test Patterns"...
157760 JeffGrigg
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May 16, 2012
9:18 am
... I've always had a hard time holding up my end of a coherent conversation at 5am EST. ;-> [And, quite ironically, I've just checked the clocks: It just...
157761 MarvinToll.com
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May 16, 2012
12:03 pm
Lambdas are available with Java 8 - ( http://jdk8.java.net/lambda/ ) Using a (very) broad brush for the Java world... we have seen with the last three releases...
157762 George Dinwiddie
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May 16, 2012
2:46 pm
Charlie, ... Yes, that. While it didn't say "should," it seemed more natural and convenient to use those matchers after using rspec for awhile. But I've been...
157763 Charlie Poole
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May 16, 2012
4:10 pm
Hi George, On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:46 AM, George Dinwiddie ... I think it's perfectly reasonable to have personal habits and idiosyncracies, so long as those...
157764 JeffGrigg
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May 16, 2012
8:11 pm
In the Java world, we wish we had LINQ. And Lambdas. But some of that is more convenience than substance. We've had anonymous inner classes in Java for some...
157765 George Dinwiddie
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May 17, 2012
8:32 am
Charlie, ... Exactly right, in my opinion. - George -- ... * George Dinwiddie * http://blog.gdinwiddie.com Software Development...
157766 MarvinToll.com
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May 17, 2012
11:45 am
This sounds like inheritance to me....
157767 MarvinToll.com
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May 17, 2012
12:26 pm
A trivial thought occurring during my daily ten-mile bike ride yesterday... It was 26 years (1959 - 1985) for COBOL to stabilize with the release of COBOL 85. ...
157768 Charlie Poole
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May 17, 2012
3:11 pm
Hi Marvin, ... It could be, provided that the relevant parts of the framework are (1) user-accessible and (2) designed to be inherited from. As a first cut at...
157769 MarvinToll.com
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May 17, 2012
4:47 pm
Perhaps I'm not understanding how to make this complicated? Here are three representative convenience assert methods for persistence using JUnit v. 3 that seem...
157770 Charlie Poole
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May 17, 2012
6:02 pm
Hi Marvin, Convenience assert methods are easy to write in almost every framework. We were talking about an entire syntactic overlay, not just a single assert....
157771 Adrian Howard
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May 17, 2012
6:36 pm
Hi Charlie, On 16 May 2012, at 17:10, Charlie Poole wrote: [snip] ... [snip] This is one of the reasons I *really* like Perl's testing framework - it has...
157772 gusridd Offline Send Email May 18, 2012
3:15 am
Hi, i'm new to this group and i'd like to make a question to the community: I'm representing a group of programmers from Chile that support the agile...
157773 M. Manca
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May 18, 2012
7:14 am
Il 18/05/2012 04:59, gusridd ha scritto: This is not exactly an argument related to the group that is extreme programming but in this particular case I suggest...
157774 JeffGrigg
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May 19, 2012
9:09 am
I guess we're going to conveniently ignore COBOL 2002. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL#COBOL_2002_and_object-oriented_COBOL ... And yes, "Java is the new...
157775 JeffGrigg
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May 19, 2012
9:23 am
... [The main site appears to be down. Below is what seems to be what is intended by the "Digital Solidarity Manifesto."] Digital Solidarity Manifesto ...
157776 MarvinToll.com
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May 19, 2012
10:32 am
I don't know about convenience... but ignoring Object-Oriented COBOL was deliberate on my part. There are at least a couple of perspectives: One. That OO COBOL...
157777 JeffGrigg
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May 19, 2012
10:36 am
And how many programmers using a COBOL 85 compiler are writing code that is much different than just COBOL 64? My observation has been "not many." (based on,...
157778 M. Manca
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May 19, 2012
10:44 am
... I wrote I think not more then 3 programs with Cobol during my first employment to modify some legacy code related to printer and terminals. If it is on the...
157779 MarvinToll.com
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May 19, 2012
4:41 pm
I remember anxiously anticipating some capability in COBOL 85 when working for EDS on the General Motors account... however, that is as memorable at the moment...
157780 M. Manca
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2:36 pm
Hi all, I find a guide to agile practices mps in the Agile Alliance web site at: http://guide.agilealliance.org/subway.html I am not convinced that all the map...
157781 George Dinwiddie
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4:48 pm
Hi, M, ... I'd agree that these things are not fundamentally about testing. They all nominally touch on testing, though. I don't think you can put these ...
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