... The converse situation is also interesting (two recent times someone came to our meetings and said): "Our system is in terrible shape... no one on the...
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Philip Craig
philip@...
Sep 1, 2000 3:51 pm
I don't think it's pollution at all. If you are XPing in a Microsoft world, check out NetUnit at: http://www.xpdeveloper.com/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi?NetUnit Full...
11305
Tom Clarke
tom@...
Sep 1, 2000 3:40 pm
And these could be stories: - System administrator needs to know how to restart server -Tom ... From: Dave Thomas <Dave@...> To:...
11304
wecaputo@...
Sep 1, 2000 3:39 pm
... least to the extent that I was describing a possible test technique. Given XP's test-first >philosophy, I think that any and all testing tricks are XP ...
11303
Chris Berry
cberry@...
Sep 1, 2000 3:22 pm
We use also use a CVS "Integration token". For us this is a just a file named IntegrationToken that sits at the top of the CVS tree. This *file* is ...
11302
Dave Thomas
Dave@...
Sep 1, 2000 3:19 pm
My take on this documentation issue is that it is a non-issue. When you write a system, you are continuously communicating your ideas and intentions. You are...
11301
Baker, Bram
bram.baker@...
Sep 1, 2000 3:13 pm
I was thinking about that last night...And I suppose it is XP related, at least to the extent that I was describing a possible test technique. Given XP's...
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Southwell Nick-SOUTHWL5
Nick_Southwell-SOUTHW...
Sep 1, 2000 3:07 pm
Thanks Bob, Hopefully that comes next. ObjectMentor is just half-an-hour away from where I work. I'm still at the stage of just trying to raise the general...
11299
Russel Hill
russh@...
Sep 1, 2000 2:56 pm
As I mentioned in a previous post... I've been on the other end of this one. Taking over a project after the original development team left.. While the docs...
11298
Southwell Nick-SOUTHWL5
Nick_Southwell-SOUTHW...
Sep 1, 2000 2:16 pm
Greetings, this is a request for assistance/guidance/advice. I, and a couple of others, have been quietly whispering about XP-ish things in the hallways, and...
11297
Ken Boyer
ken@...
Sep 1, 2000 1:55 pm
... From: Kent Beck <kentbeck@...> Date: Thursday, August 31, 2000 5:51 PM ... Not to argue too much about this, but to defend what's happening here... We...
11296
Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Sep 1, 2000 1:40 pm
... One reason is to be sure that you are starting from a clean build that still runs the tests. It's really irritating to have the tests fail, assume it's...
11295
art_thursland@...
Sep 1, 2000 1:32 pm
... Why didn't you use VbUnit? It can test a COM object written in any language. Your testing strategy is fine if your COM objects don't instantiate other COM...
11294
Arrizza, John
john.arrizza@...
Sep 1, 2000 12:51 pm
... very nice. Just a question on why do #1?...
11293
Morris, Chris
ChrisM@...
Sep 1, 2000 12:42 pm
... Always ... thanks for the post. ... It won't be too long before these 4 weeks are forgotten and the benefits of all the automation will last the rest of...
11292
Morris, Chris
ChrisM@...
Sep 1, 2000 12:25 pm
IMO, this is XP related ... I know I'll be heading off to more and more internet development in the next year or so -- and we're a MS shop at the moment, so...
11291
Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Sep 1, 2000 11:49 am
... Very good start! Love the automation, wish I had it on my machine at home. Maybe I can learn something about CVS and Python by trying to replicate it. Keep...
11290
Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Sep 1, 2000 11:47 am
... Ah. Yes. Do find a way to save your code any time you think you might want to go back. A branch is probably your best bet for that. ENVY, where I come...
11289
Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Sep 1, 2000 11:41 am
... I don't use CVS, or languages that have to be linked. So bear with me. In ENVY, we just versioned our classes, logged in as ourselves on the integration...
11288
rgams@...
Sep 1, 2000 11:40 am
... From: wecaputo@... Date: Thursday, August 31, 2000 1:53 pm Subject: RE: [XP] Mock Objects in a COM Web World ... We have written a test...
11287
Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Sep 1, 2000 11:16 am
... Unit tests are the probes of your meters. You can and should put them on any spot in the object that can tell you what you need to know. Black, white,...
11286
Sean Higgins
seanh@...
Sep 1, 2000 10:23 am
On the assumption that the rest of you are interested in "tales from the front", here's the news from our first-time-semi-XP-project. The project is 4 weeks...
11285
cg@...
Sep 1, 2000 10:00 am
[if people think I'm starting to whine, complain] ... But you integrate when you're ready with the task, not every 30 minutes. Integration is done on the trunk...
11284
cg@...
Sep 1, 2000 10:00 am
... In both instances it was me trying to be funny in selecting possible candidates - the next one would be a SuperSoaker XP filled with beer. Shoot me, but we...
11283
cg@...
Sep 1, 2000 10:00 am
... We are on a Unix timesharing system with terminals (nowadays, that's called a Solarix box with SunRays, but the principle is the same). I thought that this...
11282
laurent.bossavit@...
Sep 1, 2000 8:45 am
I will be providing more details of the XP project I'm now part of, which I can't do right away because I have TooMuchToDo; but I just had to share this... I...
11281
John Brewer
jbrewer@...
Sep 1, 2000 8:41 am
... when ... I don't see the problem. XP says that you're supposed to have acceptance tests, and that they're supposed to be in a format that the customer...
11280
John Brewer
jbrewer@...
Sep 1, 2000 8:34 am
... If I ... line ... a ... I had the same experience with the Java code I wrote about in http://www.egroups.com/message/extremeprogramming/11021 It helped to...
11279
Walter van Iterson
walter.van.iterson@...
Sep 1, 2000 8:15 am
... Did so, and ended up in "how can I hack thinks"-mode. Ultimately, it turned out in a school-example of refactoring. In detail: There's a class...
11278
Peter Schrier & Narda...
pschrier@...
Sep 1, 2000 7:04 am
Most times, bugs are detected in the UI by the end-users. So, to prove that the user is right about the bug, you have to write a Functional Test which reveals...
