... How ... Suddenly, all that hard work feels worthwhile. I shall pass this onto the team, if I may. (Can I also please quote this in a blog post? I need to...
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Elizabeth Keogh
deathbypeaches
May 1, 2007 9:57 am
... been ... work. ... of ... the new ... Heh. I've worked in a couple of companies where - if you fixed the bug, you must have caused it in the first place ...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
May 1, 2007 11:13 am
Hello, Kelly. On Friday, April 27, 2007, at 11:42:35 PM, you ... I wouldn't say that TDD is "optimized" for anything, though it might be "optimal" or "better"...
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James Carr
jay_c_the_man
May 1, 2007 11:29 am
Sure. ;) ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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John Roth
jhrothjr
May 1, 2007 1:37 pm
... From: "Paolo Bizzarri" <pibizza@...> To: <extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [XP] Theologists and...
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Daniel Wildt
dwildt2
May 1, 2007 1:46 pm
... I have the same problem, but it is a little different. I have resistance from experienced programmers that don't want to be attached to XP or Scrum or TDD...
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dnicolet99
May 1, 2007 2:19 pm
... developers think about their roots and all the things they can't ... I wonder if that could be part of the problem. You try to *make* the developers think,...
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Paolo Bizzarri
pibizza
May 1, 2007 2:24 pm
... Well, as a matter of fact, I did never worked with Turbo Pascal (except a school project, lots of years ago). But my point was that there was no trace of...
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Manuel Klimek
manuel.klimek
May 1, 2007 2:59 pm
rett, ... I had a discussion with my dad a few days ago in which he told me exactly the same thing and blamed my youth ;-) Ok, so I'll try to formulate a...
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Manuel Klimek
manuel.klimek
May 1, 2007 3:13 pm
Gary, ... +1! I've got three years of work experience now, and the first question I asked myself was: Why is everybody complaining and nobody tries to change...
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John Roth
jhrothjr
May 1, 2007 3:18 pm
... From: "Paolo Bizzarri" <pibizza@...> To: <extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [XP] Theologists and...
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Daniel Wildt
dwildt2
May 1, 2007 3:28 pm
Dave, that is a great thought! Actually this is what I have to do most of the time when I'm working with teams that don't like to use a practice because of...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
May 1, 2007 3:29 pm
Leading by example - just do it. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Fuzzyman
dream_spinne...
May 1, 2007 3:36 pm
... I work at a small (6 programmers) XP Python shop in London. We recently advertised for interns to work with us this summer. We had lots of applicants,...
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Elizabeth Keogh
deathbypeaches
May 1, 2007 3:51 pm
... IIRC Aberystwyth is the only university in the UK which teaches any of the Agile practices - there may be a second by now (?). Cheers, Liz. -- Elizabeth...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
May 1, 2007 4:03 pm
... Each year, the pressure increases in academia to do research that brings in funding. How to program is pretty much considered solved and not considered...
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Kent Beck
kentlbeck
May 1, 2007 4:40 pm
I've seen this opinion, that I "dialed down" XP in the second edition, several times. I acknowledge that people read the second edition as somehow "softer" and...
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dnicolet99
May 1, 2007 4:42 pm
That's an interesting phenomenon. It sounds as if institutions become comfortable with what they believe they already know, and stop reassessing those things....
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
May 1, 2007 5:12 pm
... To help the people stop complaining and act, stop complaining and act. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Don't confuse more exact with better. -- Brian...
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Paolo Bizzarri
pibizza
May 1, 2007 5:24 pm
... Yes. But most of formal methods research was trying to tackle exactly the same problems as XP and TDD. This was funny for me: there was lots of research...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
May 1, 2007 6:08 pm
... While there is some natural intertia/stagnation, in this particular case the bigger factors are: 1. the customer for research seeing more value in solving...
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Manuel Klimek
manuel.klimek
May 1, 2007 6:48 pm
Ron, ... I do. And I mean the acting thing without the complaining. Right now I'm not sure it's enough. But I'll give it some time... Sometimes when people...
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Dale Emery
dalehemery
May 1, 2007 6:54 pm
Hi Manuel, ... Consider running a Temperature Reading, a meeting in which you invite team members to express important stuff that often doesn't get expressed....
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Dale Emery
dalehemery
May 1, 2007 7:03 pm
Hi Manuel, ... That's a marvelous insight. What have you tried so far to reduce complaints and increase action? Have you thought of but not tried (silly or...
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Steve Ropa
steveropa
May 1, 2007 7:17 pm
It confused me too. Usually the resistance would be against the one or two practices that they didn't do. And yes, it was usually pairing. _____ From:...
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R.A. MacDonald
rando0227
May 1, 2007 8:04 pm
On an announcement for our APL user group which told of a meeting about "Extreme Programming" the person doing the writeup mentioned that, as far has he could...
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rett
rarchimedesx
May 1, 2007 8:15 pm
Elizabeth, Before I start into analysis, let me say that I do like the documentation technique and the naming conventions are lovely, though all the dross that...
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rett
rarchimedesx
May 1, 2007 8:16 pm
geoffrey, I've posted a great deal of detail in other post, so you might want to look at my other posts in this thread. I can't imagine what more that you...
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rett
rarchimedesx
May 1, 2007 8:20 pm
Steve, The most important thing that you said here was, "A major reason for this is that agile programming is about people not formal entities. The research...
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rett
rarchimedesx
May 1, 2007 8:20 pm
John, I took my first computer course in '66 at U.T. Austin, and I could get 4 or 5 batch turn arounds a day, even there. By 1974, I had access to terminals on...
