Manuel, Cheers...I love it, and I really don't disagree with you much. So, OK, just what characteristics of a language do you find important, and which ...
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rett
rarchimedesx
May 1, 2007 8:23 pm
Actually, theory led practice for a long, long time in this field, because we could conceive of a computer and what it would do, long before we were actually...
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rett
rarchimedesx
May 1, 2007 8:23 pm
Manuel, Three whole years...you have absolutely nothing to lose, and everything to gain by promoting change, whether it is needed or not. That does not mean...
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Clarke, June
joonspoon
May 1, 2007 8:37 pm
eXtreme Programming San Diego is five years old this month! We will be celebrating in style in the top floor conference room at SAIC on Campus Point Drive -...
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Steve Ropa
steveropa
May 1, 2007 8:53 pm
That is just a semantic difference. I feel very strongly that trust is between individuals. I used the plural only because of the context. My view is...
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Steve Ropa
steveropa
May 1, 2007 9:08 pm
I have found that if I ask these senior people their opinions on these, and then engage in the resulting discussions from a standpoint of learning from their...
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John Roth
jhrothjr
May 1, 2007 10:40 pm
Rett, you're missing the point. There is a substantial difference amounting to the difference between night and day between having your own workstation with ...
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Steve Ropa
steveropa
May 1, 2007 11:21 pm
_____ From: extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com [mailto:extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William Pietri Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:53 PM To:...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
May 1, 2007 11:24 pm
Hi John, ... That's true. Although for some work, back in the day, I was able to approach the development speed of a workstation by using VM/CMS for my...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
May 1, 2007 11:25 pm
... Testing a line at a time is not even TDD. XP is much more than TDD. ... I've programmed in both APL and Smalltalk and they are as different as Perl and...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
May 1, 2007 11:37 pm
Hi Steve, ... That could be one way of trusting. Another way could be trusting that you'll measure by the output she produces and not by the reception she...
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John Roth
jhrothjr
May 2, 2007 12:08 am
... From: "Charlie Poole" <xp@...> To: <extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:24 PM Subject: RE: [XP] Theologists...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
May 2, 2007 12:34 am
Hello, Elizabeth. On Tuesday, May 1, 2007, at 5:48:14 AM, you ... I suppose. And perhaps I'm lucky, or magic. I've never been in a situation where things were...
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JLStandley@...
jstandley2001
May 2, 2007 2:43 am
Hey, another VM/CMS fan. Wonderful environment. Inspired by Turbo Pascal and other tools, I built pretty nifty IDEs on top of CMS. With quad-screen monitors,...
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rett
rarchimedesx
May 2, 2007 4:15 am
Dale, Which, in a few words, says that at least most non-technical software is a people process more than a programming process. If you don't do your customer ...
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Elizabeth Keogh
deathbypeaches
May 2, 2007 9:58 am
Hi Rett, ... There is. You should see the JFrame pop up in the top-right corner of your screen, complete with all the shapes, etc. I think I may add an...
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William Tozier
vaguery
May 2, 2007 11:17 am
... Can't resist: "Now" is the funny word in that sentence. ... Bill Tozier AIM: vaguery@...; Skype: vaguery; Twitter: Vaguery ...
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R.A. MacDonald
rando0227
May 2, 2007 1:45 pm
Hello Ron; ... It is actually more TDD than anything I've heard mentioned here or on the xprogramming website. One cannot be too fine grained if one can build...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
May 2, 2007 1:53 pm
would someone please be kind enough to email me the wiki code word? thanks, Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Ron gave me a good suggestion once. -- Carlton...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
May 2, 2007 2:04 pm
... I have programmed in APL, and I know how powerful it is. My point is that TDD involves the creation of automated tests which one runs repeatedly, and the...
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Elizabeth Keogh
deathbypeaches
May 2, 2007 2:16 pm
... Just testing once wounds me, too. Cheers, Liz. -- Elizabeth Keogh liz@... http://sirenian.livejournal.com http://jbehave.org [Non-text...
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christrobridge
May 2, 2007 2:31 pm
I think this is confused. Perhaps this is related to the fact that Formal Methods tend to be used in circumstances where 'the right thing' is very important?...
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R.A. MacDonald
rando0227
May 2, 2007 2:35 pm
... If your experience was in the 1970s, I'm not sure you are talking about the same APL that I am. Mine has evolved somewhat in the interim. ... Perhaps the...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
May 2, 2007 2:57 pm
The question is: if you do TDD in APL the way you are suggesting, do you end up with a collection of automated unit tests that: 1. Expresses the intended...
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Elizabeth Keogh
deathbypeaches
May 2, 2007 3:03 pm
... getting ... work. ... At one of the places there was a bright spark who was slowly affecting change - I think he was secretly an Agile coach. Unfortunately...
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Chris Wheeler
chris_h_wheeler
May 2, 2007 3:18 pm
ahem, <shuffles feet, embarrassingly looks elsewhere>..Uhm..what are formal methods?...in all my years, I've never used anything I ever called 'formal ...
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Jeff Langr
jlangr
May 2, 2007 3:53 pm
I'm looking for thoughts about the use of a velocity *average* to establish a limit for iteration planning. I've always promoted yesterday's weather (points...
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David H.
bitchauctioneer
May 2, 2007 4:04 pm
... I like ranges. Look at the worst velocity, look at the best velocity, then make an educated guess and a good pick somewhere in that range. -- Sent from...
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Gary Brown
gb70840
May 2, 2007 4:16 pm
... We use each team's rolling three week average velocity to set their expected velocity for planning purposes. We do adjust for planned absences, like...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
May 2, 2007 4:32 pm
Hi Jeff, ... Are you implying that there are folks other than the team itself who are deciding on the velocity to use in planning? If so, I'd suggest this is a...
