After reading Bob Walsh's description of how Agile techniques can't work for a micro ISV: "If you're going to successfully fire up your micro-ISV, you need to...
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Adrian Mowat
agileadrian
Jul 1, 2007 9:53 am
Hi, I wondered if these levels might have come from some Agile flavour I am unfamiliar with. Clearly not :-( Adrian ... [Non-text portions of this message...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
Jul 1, 2007 12:45 pm
Hi Tim, Now here's a model for engaging with outsiders: pick someone whom you respect for their work in other areas, but who misunderstands XP. Seems like this...
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Larry Brunelle
larrybrunelle
Jul 1, 2007 2:11 pm
jerryyz wrote: [snip] I don't think any land to dig in the field of ... [snip] My acquaintance with profs says that interdisciplinary research interests many....
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Manuel Klimek
manuel.klimek
Jul 1, 2007 2:17 pm
Ron, sorry, I just can't resist: ... I always thought the design was done by the developer, not by the language ;-) I think it's very easy (at least for me) to...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Jul 1, 2007 2:40 pm
... I said designs "in", not designs "by". :) ... Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Accept your conditions, but not your fate. -- Rod Walsh & Dan Carrison...
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Michael Spayd
mkspayd
Jul 1, 2007 4:39 pm
George, thanks very much for these references. The links to the blog and the FAQ George mentioned are: http://www.agilecmmi.com/ http://cmmifaq.info/ As...
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Manuel Klimek
manuel.klimek
Jul 1, 2007 5:26 pm
Ron, ... I still do not get your point... I agree that it may be easier to code in Smalltalk than in C++ (though I don't have much experience with Smalltalk)....
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J. B. Rainsberger
nails762
Jul 1, 2007 5:43 pm
... I can't resist, either. Both statements can easily be simultaneously true. Smalltalk designs are (generally) simpler than C++ designs, and it's possible to...
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J. B. Rainsberger
nails762
Jul 1, 2007 5:47 pm
... A simple example: when I extract an interface, C++ forces me to duplicate the method declaration in various header files. I have to declare the method in...
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Dave Nicolette
dnicolet99
Jul 1, 2007 5:58 pm
... features ... are ... Are you describing design as such or language-dependent implementation details? Dave...
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Manuel Klimek
manuel.klimek
Jul 1, 2007 6:00 pm
Joe, ... I don't agree that the example you come up with is not controversial. I admit that it introduces duplication, which is bad, but on the other hand it...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
Jul 1, 2007 6:06 pm
Hi Joe, ... AFAIK, all languages that use interfaces (C++, Java, C# for example) require you to "duplicate" the method declarations in the interface deinition...
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J. B. Rainsberger
nails762
Jul 1, 2007 6:06 pm
... If the language forces me to write more code for the same design, that matters, no? -- J. B. (Joe) Rainsberger :: http://www.jbrains.ca Your guide to...
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John Roth
jhrothjr
Jul 1, 2007 6:08 pm
... From: "Michael Spayd" <michael.spayd@...> To: <extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [XP] CMMI...
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J. B. Rainsberger
nails762
Jul 1, 2007 6:11 pm
... Manuel, I don't understand your reasoning here. I'm not talking about the difference between having an interface and not having an interface. I'm talking...
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Manuel Klimek
manuel.klimek
Jul 1, 2007 6:21 pm
Joe, ... My point is that decoupling makes the design simpler, too (at least for me), so decoupling is good. The decoupling of interface and implementation ...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Jul 1, 2007 6:23 pm
... And, to be honest, many in the CMMI community, including many assessors. Hillel points out that it doesn't have to be that way. - George -- ... * George...
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Dave Nicolette
dnicolet99
Jul 1, 2007 6:25 pm
... Ruby, ... duplicate ... removing ... designs ... It matters, yes. I just don't think it's a design question per se. Dave...
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Ilja Preuss
ipreussde
Jul 1, 2007 6:40 pm
... How would management know whether time reporting was proper? Curious, Ilja...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Jul 1, 2007 6:48 pm
... I am inclined to dispute the last half of that sentence. But as for "better" it surely depends on what we're trying to do. That said, my personal...
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Manuel Klimek
manuel.klimek
Jul 1, 2007 6:57 pm
Ron, if you put me in a team of smart people who are striving to deliver high quality software they take pride in and from whom I can learn a lot, and if that...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Jul 1, 2007 6:58 pm
... Suppose in our design we wish to have two classes supporting some small set of methods, doX, doY, doZ. Suppose those two classes don't want to have a...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Jul 1, 2007 7:11 pm
... Yes. And my point is that the two designs are /different/. One includes two elements, class A and class B, and the other three, class A, class B, and...
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Forrest Chang
fkchang2000
Jul 1, 2007 7:19 pm
I suppose it's worth hashing out what we mean exactly by design for this discussion. I get the impression there is a notion, of "I drew these UML diagrams (or...
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Ilja Preuss
ipreussde
Jul 1, 2007 7:21 pm
Well, as they are smart people, and they may define their own way to work, they certainly would define their way to work to not include programming in C++......
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aidy
aidy1us
Jul 1, 2007 7:25 pm
Hi, Would I be correct in saying that most developers who contribute to open-source software have an agile background? aidy...
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Lior Friedman
friedmanlior
Jul 1, 2007 7:38 pm
... Just for the record youcan have the same 2 element design in C++ as well. I'm not sure that you willwant to go there, but you can. The point is that...
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Laurent Bossavit
morendilfoo
Jul 1, 2007 7:44 pm
... A quick note first, not directed at Ron particularly. When you've tried languages like Erlang and Haskell, comparisons between Java, C# and Smalltalk start...
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Manuel Klimek
manuel.klimek
Jul 1, 2007 8:09 pm
Or smalltalk, for that matter. haskell, anyone? ;-) ... -- http://klimek.box4.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
