Hi Craig, ... Possibly. That's an important distinction both intellectually and politically. By the latter, I mean that it's a not helpful to the general state...
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Nguyen Phuc Hai
haiphucnguyen
Sep 7, 2007 12:52 am
Interface is the contract between the module implementation and other modules. . YAGNI is good but please care how you can extend your program with effort as...
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Phlip
phlipcpp
Sep 7, 2007 1:05 am
... I am way too intellectually-challenged to do that. I use TDD essentially as a crutch, because I'm not smart enough to program the way real Software ...
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Matt
analyticalchaos
Sep 7, 2007 2:32 am
... <peter.notenbaert@...> wrote: <snip> * All Stored procedures (in theory because in practice only the more complex ones) are tested by actually executing...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Sep 7, 2007 2:38 am
Hello, Dave. On Wednesday, September 5, 2007, at 4:50:10 PM, you ... I've been using Second Life a bit and while it is quite interesting, I'm not sure how...
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Craig Davidson
craigdavidso...
Sep 7, 2007 9:48 am
Hi Charlie, I think we understand each other reasonably well. It seems I've managed to digress onto the misapplication of XP in corporate environments, for...
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pnotenb
Sep 7, 2007 12:50 pm
... the ... This ... one ... that ... With us, the stored procedures tests live in their own test suite. I'm not sure this is very important though. We...
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heusserm
Sep 7, 2007 4:28 pm
... I'm very curious as to which authority your are citing here when you define "Unit" as just the object in complete isolation. I was talking to Steve Freeman...
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Matt Heusser
heusserm
Sep 7, 2007 4:36 pm
... Per my previous email, I do believe it is possible to say: "We had roughly 10,000,000 transactions last month on the website. Of those, we had 100 people...
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Cory Foy
cory_foy
Sep 7, 2007 5:15 pm
... Personally, when TDDing stored procs, I'm not sure how much the data generation plans would get you anyway. I can see that for acceptance and load tests...
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John Roth
jhrothjr
Sep 7, 2007 5:19 pm
... From: "heusserm"; <matt.heusser@...> To: <extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:21 AM Subject: [XP] Re: Unit tests &...
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Mike Nunan
mike_nunan
Sep 7, 2007 5:20 pm
Hi Steven, Thanks to you and to the other respondents for your interesting and useful replies. We can't quantify our acceptance criteria as such - it's really...
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heusserm
Sep 7, 2007 5:43 pm
I am a dope. When I wrote "previous email" earlier, I was referring to an email that went out over a different list, not extremeprogramming. So I'll resend...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
Sep 7, 2007 5:59 pm
... You could break this one down into: - "use more than 4GB on I/O operations", - "use more than 4GB on rotation operations", - "use more than 4GB on...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
Sep 7, 2007 6:03 pm
Hi Craig, ... You are wise. :-) ... First of all, I said "might even" not "ought to" I've known many successful companies that were made so by the hiring of a...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
Sep 7, 2007 6:18 pm
Hi John, ... I like this - particularly the second point, which many people miss. I would however add the obvious: each test does, in fact, test a certain...
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Dave Nicolette
dnicolet99
Sep 7, 2007 7:07 pm
... How do you define "authority?" I do this for a living. I'm as much an authority as Steve Freeman or Michael Feathers. So are you. ... So, these people...
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Dave Nicolette
dnicolet99
Sep 7, 2007 7:09 pm
John, That is a good way to slice it up, too. Not to focus too much on the word, "unit," I think that depending on the purpose of a test, there is an...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
Sep 7, 2007 7:53 pm
... Hi, Mike. Having worked for financial traders, I get the mindset. Happily, you're in a context where people spend a lot of time managing risk, so your XP...
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William Pietri
william_pietri
Sep 7, 2007 9:01 pm
Hi, Craig. I have a lot of experience in startups, both in doing them and in coaching teams at them. I think XP works pretty well for me in those ...
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Esther Schindler
estherschindler
Sep 7, 2007 10:52 pm
Since you all were kind enough to help me on this... I hope I edited him right. <grin> 25 Questions a Chief Executive Should Ask About Software This article...
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Kent Beck
kentlbeck
Sep 7, 2007 11:44 pm
Shane, I think I've used all the free products for screen sharing. VNC works best for me, but it's still too slow to be comfortable. I've had better ...
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Chris Wheeler
chris_h_wheeler
Sep 8, 2007 12:22 am
... The example above seems to put equal weighting on all defects. As a Lean Six Sigma practitioner (and only having the details you've given), I'd suggest ...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
Sep 8, 2007 9:16 am
Using function points to illustrate the costs and risks of complexity is uncontroversial. The table has me wondering what software could possibly have only 1...
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Craig Davidson
craigdavidso...
Sep 8, 2007 9:35 am
Hi Charlie, I didn't mean to stretch what you wrote. It's just the "might even" bit I find interesting. Yes it's just a strategy but it is a strategy I don't...
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Craig Davidson
craigdavidso...
Sep 8, 2007 9:57 am
Hi William, Thanks for your post, not sure if you are getting me though. ... When you have an XP Customer I agree completely. With a startup consisting of a...
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Gary Brown
gb70840
Sep 8, 2007 1:50 pm
... I think that a team adopting XP needs to have the support of someone in their organization who has the power to impose it, if they are going to get the...
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Esther Schindler
estherschindler
Sep 8, 2007 1:54 pm
Hello World? <g>...
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Joseph Little
jhlittle1
Sep 8, 2007 5:04 pm
LAST CALL: We have a good group now, but have a few seats left. Mike has the implementingscrum.com site, with the great cartoons. Sorry for the late...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
Sep 8, 2007 9:15 pm
Hi Gary, ... or at least to try to impose it... :-) ... One of the first things an outside XP coach needs to do - at least in my view of coaching - is to get...
