... That is a very cool way of putting it. And it matches my experience, also. I've often seen organizations try to "streamline" by using automated tools...
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Cory Foy
cory_foy
Jul 1, 2008 12:29 pm
This came across my inbox this morning: http://www.yosefk.com/blog/extreme-programming-explained.html It seems to be what I would imagine anyone first coming...
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Matt
maswaffer
Jul 1, 2008 3:33 pm
Cory, ... with ... Or the opinion of a very smart but arrogant programmer who doesn't work on software remotely related to business applications. Writing...
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Thomas Eyde
thomas_eyde
Jul 1, 2008 4:16 pm
It amazed me the most, how he concluded that "competent and social" == mediocre. In his mind, apparently, skill is a binary value. -- Thomas ... [Non-text...
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Michael Dubakov
fire_falcon_...
Jul 1, 2008 5:58 pm
What do you think about tools like http://www.programeter.com ? "Programeter is a first management tool able to measure programmers' know-how as well as...
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Mike Hill
uly562000
Jul 1, 2008 6:22 pm
Yes. Whenever someone asks me for a tool like this, I like to try and probe how/why the given manager doesn't feel able to assess these things as a matter of...
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Phlip
phlipcpp
Jul 1, 2008 6:23 pm
... I look forward to pairing with him on that......
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Jul 2, 2008 1:14 am
... Looking at the list of indicators measured, I'm not sure whether they're intended to be positive or negative. And it's amazing to me that a tool can...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Jul 2, 2008 1:17 am
... Matt, I think you have unfairly maligned embedded and tool developers. - George -- ... * George Dinwiddie * http://blog.gdinwiddie.com...
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Tim Ottinger
linux_tim
Jul 2, 2008 2:09 am
Heh! Pair programming screws this up rather seriously. I checked in code that I wrote with George, Kent, and Robert. Over on Fred's box, I help him for a few...
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David Eves
david_eves
Jul 2, 2008 2:53 am
... I'm not the same David, but one of the best books explaining aiki principles in a non-martial-arts context I've seen is Aikido in everyday life : giving in...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Jul 2, 2008 3:49 am
... I have it, like it. ... Will check it out ... thanks! Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com I have tried in my way to be free. -- Leonard Cohen...
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Matt
maswaffer
Jul 2, 2008 6:35 am
George, ... work ... makes ... your ... You are right. I work with one who happens to be one of the nicest and most sociable guys I have ever met. And smart...
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Nina Niskanen
mokso1
Jul 2, 2008 10:08 am
I can't help but be seriously reminded of Productivity 2.0 over at the daily WTF http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Productivity-20.aspx Nina ... -- I reject your...
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Allen Higgins
allen_c_higgins
Jul 2, 2008 10:31 am
Well it could be good in so far as it invites others (managers?) to engage with the process of reading the code their organisation produces. That said,...
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Nina Niskanen
mokso1
Jul 2, 2008 10:58 am
... How do you figure? My understanding of the software was that you basically just point it towards your version control and the software will just analyze...
Indeed, my thinking is to deduce exactly as you point out; that an intelligent response (by management presumably) is to suspect the validity of reports, to...
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Robert Biddle
robtbiddle
Jul 2, 2008 3:26 pm
I've always been puzzled by the connection some people see between agile development and martial arts. These items don't seem to help my understanding. It...
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Victor
vmgoldberg2
Jul 2, 2008 4:21 pm
Hi Robert, ... Here is the message I take. Agile is about communication between individuals and their community. It's also about going from state A to a...
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Nina Niskanen
mokso1
Jul 2, 2008 4:28 pm
... He got what he needed most at the moment and not what he really tried to get. ... The lesson for agile development as I see it is this; the angry man (the...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
Jul 2, 2008 4:41 pm
... Nicely put, Nina. Let me add: In software development, there is no reliable way to solve all the problems ("there are no silver bullets"). We can pretend...
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Matt
maswaffer
Jul 2, 2008 4:47 pm
Nina, ... <snip/> ... If that's the lesson... why wouldn't "offering a friendly face" fix waterfall? I think that's what puzzles Robert (and I) about some of ...
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Chris Wheeler
chris_h_wheeler
Jul 2, 2008 4:53 pm
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Robert Biddle <Robert_Biddle@...> ... Very thoughtful observation, Robert... having studied martial arts, I am often...
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Ilja Preuss
ipreussde
Jul 2, 2008 4:56 pm
... Matt, I didn't understand David to say that the story somehow is a metaphor for Agile Management. Cheers, Ilja...
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David Carlton
carlton_db
Jul 2, 2008 4:59 pm
... It sounds like you weren't fixing the most pressing concern: it sounds to me like you started to fix a bunch of concerns that were pressing at the time,...
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Ola Ellnestam
ellnestam
Jul 2, 2008 5:13 pm
... Maybe we should? ;-) //Ola -- ... Ola Ellnestam Agical AB Västerlånggatan 79, 2 tr 111 29 Stockholm, SWEDEN Mobile: +46-708-754000 E-mail:...
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Nina Niskanen
mokso1
Jul 2, 2008 5:39 pm
... That's just the thing. Waterfall mostly focuses on deciding ahead of time, what the customer wants, which most often is not what the customer actually...
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Nina Niskanen
mokso1
Jul 2, 2008 5:55 pm
... Absolutely. And if you go to any tech conference and ask anyone who's ever tried or studied martial arts to raise their hand, you'll see a lot of hands...
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Matt
maswaffer
Jul 2, 2008 6:03 pm
David, ... wrote: <snip/> ... address ... at ... of ... You hit the nail on the head. Except at that company upper management decided what the developers...
