Hello, Brandon. On Wednesday, December 31, 2008, at 6:36:29 AM, ... I think all the time. I code only what I need right now, in some simple and clear way. Ron...
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Arnaud Bailly
arnaud.baillly
Jan 1, 2009 3:09 pm
Hello, One thing I found useful is to establish some sort of plan through a list of tests that I order and implement one at a time. Like all plans, it should...
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Phlip
phlipcpp
Jan 1, 2009 5:38 pm
... Right: Then you can sort the list and do the items from easy to hard. Subsequent tests can reuse fixtures invented for the simpler tests. The goal is each...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Jan 1, 2009 7:02 pm
If the tests have a lot of duplication testing an aspect of a class, that can mean that you should extract a class to represent that aspect. Now you have two...
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Brandon Olivares
devbanana
Jan 1, 2009 8:27 pm
... Can you explain a bit what you mean? I don't know if I see your point there. To me, testing has a lot of duplication. I mean you are testing all of the ...
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Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jan 2, 2009 3:03 am
For those who don't know me (my name is quite common and there may be others, better known than myself, who answer to the same name - speak to my parents if...
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David H.
darianlanx
Jan 2, 2009 3:06 am
... I think it is more for you to convince us. I doubt an opinion can easily be declared "wrong", it very much depends on the situation at hand. Is virtual...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
Jan 2, 2009 3:21 am
Hi Owen, ... That's a surprising statement, given the number of companies I know of with distributed teams. But I'll take it that you mean "among advocates of...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Jan 2, 2009 4:20 am
... If I weren't collocated with my team, I would miss the following things: 1) The ability to hear what others in the room were talking about including...
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Tathagat Varma
tathagatvarma
Jan 2, 2009 4:30 am
I think working remotely is not 'fair or practical or doable' - it is the real world. A business runs because of the economies of that business, ...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Jan 2, 2009 5:48 am
... For starters I think we should inform management about the downsides so that they can make an informed decision. Ron Jeffries pointed out this study on...
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Craig Davidson
craigdavidso...
Jan 2, 2009 10:16 am
Hi Owen, What do you mean by Virtual Collocation? Personally, I have been happily working in what I consider to be an agile fashion, on and off for over 5...
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Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jan 2, 2009 12:20 pm
Hello David. ... "wrong", it very much ... You're right. But an hypothesis can be proven false, so I'll try to rephrase what I want to know: Is there a...
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Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jan 2, 2009 12:21 pm
Hello Charlie ... Well, it is my experience that with maybe a few random exceptions, I haven't seen any employment opportunities. I could be looking in the ...
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Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jan 2, 2009 12:21 pm
Hi Adam. If I'm not mistaken, you were contributing to the discussion I was having elsewhere. Thanks for taking up the conversation here. I believe point 1 can...
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Owen Thomas
owen_paul_th...
Jan 2, 2009 1:17 pm
Hello Craig. ... Off the top of my head... :) My definition of a Virtually Collocated team is one which relies on ICT to participate in a collaborative...
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Doug Swartz
gruverguy
Jan 2, 2009 1:18 pm
... While this may be true, I've never worked with any remote audio communication system that works well for this kind of "overhearing the important parts of...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Jan 2, 2009 1:20 pm
... Two things. First, in the type of workspace that we (XP teams) prefer there is a lot going on and a lot of information that can be picked up in the...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
Jan 2, 2009 2:37 pm
... One practice that ameliorates to some extent the communication/collaboration deficiencies of remote team work is to collocate the whole team for the first...
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Steve Freeman
smg_freeman
Jan 2, 2009 3:30 pm
Michael Feathers and I are working up a talk that will be a review of effectively 10 years of TDD. The idea is partly just to look at the history, but mainly...
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David H.
darianlanx
Jan 2, 2009 3:36 pm
... Might I suggest http://www.dipity.com/ for that? It will help you create a visual representation and you can link in third party content. -d -- Sent from...
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Phlip
phlipcpp
Jan 2, 2009 4:26 pm
... When was Rails launched? It's a "first" for a GUI platform invented _via_ TDD, without it strapped on as an afterthought......
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Jan 2, 2009 4:26 pm
I have an example of a large method in my article here: <http://www.stickyminds.com/BetterSoftware/magazine.asp?fn=cifea&id=75> Pretend the large method in...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Jan 2, 2009 4:38 pm
... July 2004. It's a "first" for a GUI platform invented _via_ ... Although I agree Rails is notable for being one of the first to have a unit test framework...
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Phlip
phlipcpp
Jan 2, 2009 4:51 pm
... The ideal would be TDD used to invent the entire stack - the display drivers, the GUI toolkit widgets, the presentation system, the scripting language, and...
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Mike Coon
mcsp3
Jan 2, 2009 4:59 pm
In our sprints I have a QA person manually testing bits of functionality as they are delivered; This generates defects as we go and we've been adding a task...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Jan 2, 2009 5:08 pm
Well, I'm pretty old. I would recommend creating automated tests that fail because of the defect, and these tests would have to fail for the task to be...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Jan 2, 2009 5:09 pm
correctIon: "... these tests would have to PASS for the task to be acceptable at the end of the sprint." ... -- C. Keith Ray, IXP Coach, Industrial Logic,...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Jan 2, 2009 5:21 pm
... I don't know about display drivers. Those are so tied to the hardware. It's hard enough to get vendors to open source that code, let alone asking them to...
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Mike Coon
mcsp3
Jan 2, 2009 5:22 pm
Thanks for the response - sometimes just talking about things brings clarity. Yes I agree with automated testing. For a variety of poor excuses we don't have...
