... Do you mean the XP from XProgramming, or from extremeprogramming.org? Just for the record, my XwiththetailP is copyrighted. I do license it freely on...
14904
Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Nov 1, 2000 8:45 am
... <quiet applause and a smile> And I really really do. ;-> Thanks. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com www.objectmentor.com...
14905
Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Nov 1, 2000 8:49 am
... Often enough to keep me on airplanes. But your observation makes me wonder this: how can a project really succeed without someone(s) to do those things? I...
14906
Dave Thomas
Dave@...
Nov 1, 2000 8:59 am
... This is the XP list, so we're not allowed to give advice, just ask questions. However, to my mind, and invoice class is just that: a collection of the...
14907
Alan Francis
alan@...
Nov 1, 2000 9:20 am
... I have to say, the same thing crossed my mind :-) Alan...
14908
Dave Thomas
Dave@...
Nov 1, 2000 9:37 am
... Just one more point on this... "Tell, don't ask" doesn't say that you can't interrogate an object's state. What is says is that you shouldn't use that...
14909
Torben Wölm
torben.wolm@...
Nov 1, 2000 10:21 am
So classes acting as read-only structs are still complying with the law of Demeter? OK, I'm going a little far out there. But if I understand you right, I'll...
14910
Torben Wölm
torben.wolm@...
Nov 1, 2000 10:31 am
Yes. This way we are back to the original thread. Should we use getters/setters or direct access to the fields. (No, please don't pick up that discussion...
14911
Ole Andersen
palnatoke@...
Nov 1, 2000 11:20 am
... In Denmark, 'ultralight' is something involving low tar/low nicotine cigarettes - or diet coke. Ole -- Ole Andersen Brøndbyøster, Denmark ...
14912
kari.hoijarvi@...
Nov 1, 2000 11:39 am
Can you explain what is the problem here? Throwing an exception on violated precondition makes it just more difficult to find the error. That's one of the...
14913
Dave Thomas
Dave@...
Nov 1, 2000 11:57 am
... Not really want to dilute a message that "excellent post" and my name in the same sentence, I fell compelled to mention that I was talking about "tell,...
14914
Extreme Programming Lab
xplab@...
Nov 1, 2000 12:58 pm
... zone ... I think he is more concerned about how the developers will deal with having to work with others. We have some developers who don't work well with...
14915
John A. Maxwell
jmax@...
Nov 1, 2000 1:32 pm
... Exactly. You must restrict your _outside_ money-making job to 40 hours/week so that you have adequate time left to devote to the Secret Activities of the...
14916
David Corbin
dcorbin@...
Nov 1, 2000 1:35 pm
... It sounds good in theory, but I think it will fail (the majority of the time) in practice. Customers have been trained to want to know upfront what...
14917
Andrew Hunt
andy@...
Nov 1, 2000 1:42 pm
... Dave's the "posting machine", but I'd like to chime in a few thoughts as well... (Okay, my son was up from 2 to 4 as well, but *I* went back to sleep ;-) ...
14918
Dossy
dossy@...
Nov 1, 2000 1:49 pm
... I mean the big "X" that's on the cover of the AW XP Series books. Did that make sense? ... XPwear would be a big hit for me, as I work in a big corporate...
14919
Benjamin Schroeder
schroeder@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:02 pm
... I think that I saw somebody at OOPSLA with a white XP: Embrace Change t-shirt (with logo from the books), but I'm not sure if it was "official" or ...
14920
Dossy
dossy@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:03 pm
... Get rid of them. They'll doom any project that's more complex than one person can handle. Or, you just don't put them on those projects, in which case they...
14921
rblum@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:03 pm
... simplistic ... program). It might interest you that perforce is working on an integration for several bug tracking packages. We just have been through the...
14922
Keith Braithwaite
keith_braithwaite@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:07 pm
This was something that came up in a planning session yesterday. More info at http://www.xpdeveloper.com/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi?IrregularIterations I'd like to get...
14923
Phlip
phlip@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:17 pm
From: "Keith Braithwaite" ... Sounds like a job for http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?XpFixedPlanningGame Phlip ======= http://users.deltanet.com/~tegan/home.html =======...
14924
Phlip
phlip@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:19 pm
From: "John A. Maxwell" ... kool-aid? ... Benedictine ... regular ... they ... Man, reading this list server is tiring. I can't think straight anymore. Phlip ...
14925
Dave Thomas
Dave@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:19 pm
... How to make that big 'X' t-shirt. 1. Get an egg. 2. Keep it for about 8 months until the inside becomes gray. 3. Lay your t-shirt on the...
14926
Morris, Chris
ChrisM@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:20 pm
... From the page: [She wanted this bunch of things, however long it would take, and then these other things, however long they would take. This would have...
14927
Dossy
dossy@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:33 pm
... [ ... clip ... ] ... Or, if you're really disciplined, lie on your back in the middle of a park under large bronze statues. Eventually, a lucky pigeon...
14928
bubba99@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:36 pm
... I just want a nice shirt that says "eXtereme Programming" on the back and a nice dark one that says in spikey letters "Refactor Mercilessly"... Isn't there...
14929
Joshua Kerievsky
joshua@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:39 pm
... I too rarely set out to install a pattern -- I thought I wrote about that last year and just talked about in my OOPSLA tutorial, Refactoring to Patterns. ...
14930
Berkowitz, Steven
steven.berkowitz@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:53 pm
... To people like these developers, I have only one thing to say: Tough S*&t. Whether or not they like it, they are part of a team. This means they have to...
14931
Curtis Cooley
thedarksavant@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:54 pm
... That's what I was thinking. During the 'long' iteration, just do internal iterations on your regular schedule. ... Curtis Cooley RADSoft / Training,...
14932
Dossy
dossy@...
Nov 1, 2000 2:57 pm
... And, get rid of them early on before they become too entrenched and carry too much business knowledge with them that they've refused to share. As Kent has...
