Hello, Karl. On Wednesday, July 29, 2009, at 10:18:59 AM, you ... Yes. That would preserve the single blob. You then move on to answering "what might they do...
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Karl Scotland
kjscotland
Jul 29, 2009 3:20 pm
... Sorry. I didn't intend to abandon the idea. More that I don't disagree with the idea, so there didn't seem much more to discuss. Did you have something...
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Karl Scotland
kjscotland
Jul 29, 2009 3:56 pm
Hi Ron, ... To me there's a difference between saying that, and having a tool/opportunity to do something about it. ... I think a time-boxed...
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Bill Caputo
logosity
Jul 29, 2009 5:18 pm
... There is the flip side to consider too: What advantage (if any) does time-boxing provide for mitigating the risks of dysfunctional *programmers*? Not all...
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kentb
kentlbeck
Jul 29, 2009 5:24 pm
Whether to have more than one user visible feature in progress at a time is a function of the team size (bigger teams are more likely to develop in parallel)...
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Slava Imeshev
imeshev
Jul 29, 2009 6:55 pm
I have observed branch by feature working really well in a very large software organization. There are hard time limits by that a story should be completed,...
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amitelad7
Jul 29, 2009 7:56 pm
... based ... expectation ... to ... with. ... This debate around pressure from management feels a little strange to me, even if there is no cadence or...
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Colin Garriga-Sala...
colin.garrig...
Jul 29, 2009 7:57 pm
Hello, ... What do you think of expiring business options ? Maybe as a developer I'd rather build software at my own sustainable pace, doing my best for the...
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Arnaud Bailly
arnaud.baillly
Jul 29, 2009 8:20 pm
Hi to all, I join the choir of appraisal to Ron Jeffries for starting this interesting thread. I have a difficult time wrapping my head around the concept of...
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David Carlton
carlton_db
Jul 29, 2009 8:48 pm
... I thought about this a bit more; couldn't you say just as easily that kanban is more of a manufacturing concept, too? Which got me curious whether kanban ...
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David Carlton
carlton_db
Jul 29, 2009 9:14 pm
... And now I've started rereading that chapter, and right near the beginning it reminds the reader of the three m's of waste, unevenness, and overburden. Lots...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Jul 30, 2009 11:52 am
Hello, Colin. On Wednesday, July 29, 2009, at 3:56:08 PM, you ... I think you're describing a ship date, rather than a time box in the sense it was being used...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Jul 30, 2009 12:10 pm
Hello, Karl. On Wednesday, July 29, 2009, at 11:55:29 AM, you ... Yes. However, since pretty much everyone has heard of weeks and months, and probably has...
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Karl Scotland
kjscotland
Jul 30, 2009 12:20 pm
Hi Colin, ... I think its a very interesting way of thinking. ... There is a concept known as Class of Service which deals with these sorts of scenarios....
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Karl Scotland
kjscotland
Jul 30, 2009 12:29 pm
Hi Arnoud ... where ... low ... The simple answer is don't worry about it! As you say, software development is knowledge work, so trying too hard to control...
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John Maxwell
jmax315
Jul 30, 2009 1:58 pm
On 07/29/09 10:55:13, Ron Jeffries wrote: Perhaps some git users will chime in. git reduces the pain of a merge substantially over any other VC system I've...
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John Maxwell
jmax315
Jul 30, 2009 2:08 pm
Sorry about that fumble-fingers on my last post. -John -- John Maxsell jmax@... There are two types of people: those who divide people into two types, ...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Jul 30, 2009 2:24 pm
... Roughly that. I think I could express that a team has many ways of detecting issues, and that kanban is one. The kanban board, with or without WIP limits,...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Jul 30, 2009 2:49 pm
Hello, Bill. On Wednesday, July 29, 2009, at 1:18:50 PM, you ... Yes. I do feel--perhaps wrongly--that the pressure of the deadline is not entirely bad, in...
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Karl Scotland
kjscotland
Jul 30, 2009 2:52 pm
Ron, ... Not sure if this qualifies, but lets try. Back when I first started with a Kanban approach, we were using Scrum. We were getting stuff done each...
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Karl Scotland
kjscotland
Jul 30, 2009 3:01 pm
Ron, ... I think so. I'm planning on trying to describe XP as a Kanban System soon. My current thinking is that the significant piece is not so much the ...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Jul 30, 2009 3:06 pm
... I like that description a lot (though I call it a "card wall" instead of a "kanban board"). I've always counseled teams to minimize WIP during the...
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Chet Hendrickson
suechet
Jul 30, 2009 3:10 pm
Hello Karl, That is an interesting story, and causes me to want to know more. Did the switch enable your team to deliver more? Did the PO stop complaining?...
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Chris Wheeler
chris_h_wheeler
Jul 30, 2009 4:08 pm
... One team I worked with was using XP and iterations. At a point, about a year into the project, it appeared as though the customers on the team could not...
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Karl Scotland
kjscotland
Jul 30, 2009 4:14 pm
Hi Chet, ... I think so, although its not something we really measured for comparison. ... Yes. It felt like they became more part of the team. Everyone pulled...
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Ilja Preuß
ipreussde
Jul 30, 2009 4:38 pm
I use a slightly different strategy for making the feature invisible to (end)users: the menu entry is only visible when a "development" system property is set....
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kentb
kentlbeck
Jul 30, 2009 5:21 pm
Chris, On reading your story (thanks--clear and to the point) it occurs to me that I had an unspoken assumption in suggesting fixed iterations: that the "line"...
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Joshua Kerievsky
jlk112067
Jul 30, 2009 5:27 pm
... If such a team were working on a web site, I'd remove all traces of iterations and encourage them to get into releasing to prod as soon as features are...
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Chris Wheeler
chris_h_wheeler
Jul 30, 2009 5:38 pm
Kent, This is why I don't see a competition between kanbans and iterations. It's been noted that perhaps kanbans are an advanced practice; I see kanbans as a ...
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Chet Hendrickson
suechet
Jul 30, 2009 6:18 pm
Hello Joshua, My experience is that it is possible to maintain the heartbeat of the the XP planning cycle and use a pull-driven release approach. I have ...
