... That's unfortunate, as the costs of having high turnover are sure to overwhelm all the benefits gained from successfully communicating even the most...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Aug 1, 2010 12:21 pm
Hello, MarvinToll.com. On Saturday, July 31, 2010, at 11:49:26 ... ... such that 80 percent of them adopted it. Notice that very few products have 80 percent...
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Marvin D. Toll
y153446
Aug 1, 2010 12:23 pm
@paul... Happy to provide additional context. Our company is committed to low-cost-sourcing with distributed teams. Nothing that is said in this thread is...
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Victor
vmgoldberg2
Aug 1, 2010 12:23 pm
Dear Friends, From time to time somebody publishes here a thought that for many other may sound ridiculous. Yet, this thought is respectfully analyzed from...
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JeffGrigg
jeffgrigg63132
Aug 1, 2010 12:57 pm
... Remarkably low pay. Very high turnover. Widely distributed, with all the communication problems that that causes. Does not seem like empowered...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Aug 1, 2010 2:43 pm
Hello, JeffGrigg. On Sunday, August 1, 2010, at 8:13:35 AM, you ... My understanding is that the contractors in question hire relatively inexperienced people....
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Aug 1, 2010 4:49 pm
Hello, MarvinToll.com. On Saturday, July 31, 2010, at 11:08:08 ... If this means "provide them with something they can use", then I agree. To me the phrase...
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PAUL
beckfordp...
Aug 1, 2010 7:44 pm
Hi Marvin, ... I've got hands-on experience of this. A big pharmaceutical company hired a big french consultancy to build a drug safety system for them. The...
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MarvinToll.com
y153446
Aug 2, 2010 12:13 am
@Paul... I agree with you... our corporate Reference Implementation does not use EJBs. By establishing 'effective' (recall 'effective' means that teams...
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MarvinToll.com
y153446
Aug 2, 2010 12:22 am
@Jeff... are you saying a team can not self-organize unless they receive high pay (by Western standards), are collocated and members are actively committed to...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Aug 2, 2010 12:29 am
Marvin, I'm not Jeff, but I'd say that high turnover and widely distributed makes it /very/ unlikely the team will self-organize. I think they're highly...
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MarvinToll.com
y153446
Aug 2, 2010 12:31 am
@Ron... the following quote is from an article on "Great Leaders Don't Manage They Inspire" ...
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PAUL
beckfordp...
Aug 2, 2010 1:09 am
Hi Marvin, I think you missed the point of the story entirely. This happened in 2004. Today the technologies would be different, but the scenario the same....
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PAUL
beckfordp...
Aug 2, 2010 1:31 am
@Marvin ... The French consultancy were as equally as arrogant. They too thought they had found the "Silver Bullet". Good luck. Paul....
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MarvinToll.com
y153446
Aug 2, 2010 1:36 am
@Paul... I made a counter-point. that the Gartner 'hype-cycle' is still at work and there are those that get excited about technologies today simply because...
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MarvinToll.com
y153446
Aug 2, 2010 1:49 am
George... I strongly agree with you that low pay, high turnover and distribution impacts the team. However, I wouldn't take away the 'team' title just because...
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MarvinToll.com
y153446
Aug 2, 2010 1:53 am
@Paul... no "Silver Bullet" even attempted. We strive for 80% of our teams self-selecting to use 80% of our Reference Implementation 80% of the time - or,...
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PAUL
beckfordp...
Aug 2, 2010 2:25 am
Hi Marvin, Agile software development is premised on the idea that software teams behave like complex adaptive systems. Namely: 1. They should self organise 2....
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MarvinToll.com
y153446
Aug 2, 2010 2:36 am
Subject v. 2.0: Providing Guidance from an Enterprise to Project Teams that Self-Select [whether to follow it] I have a busy day tomorrow and so will bring to...
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Carlo Bottiglieri
invernomutoai
Aug 2, 2010 9:21 am
... if you got a moment, would you have permission to provide the 10 highest McCabe complexity peaks from that software? Speaking, of course, of the McCabe...
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JeffGrigg
jeffgrigg63132
Aug 2, 2010 12:54 pm
... Not at all: Semco (in Brazil) has been very successful at what we in the U.S. would consider low pay. But they do stress the critical importance of...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Aug 2, 2010 1:19 pm
Marvin ... Pay has little or nothing to do with it. I've seen strong teams working for free. ... Perhaps you use the word "team" where I use the word "work...
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daswartz@prodigy
daswartz...
Aug 3, 2010 4:16 pm
Hello Adam, ... And cultural environment. It is very difficult to inculcate pairing in an environment where individual heros are rewarded highly and team ...
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Steve Ropa
steveropa
Aug 3, 2010 5:11 pm
I was in a similar situation once. I said I would ask the team to put in whatever overtime was necessary, and I'd let the management team know if it ever did...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Aug 3, 2010 5:31 pm
... True, but if that were the case pairing wouldn't be my first concern (Nor second.)...
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Marvin D. Toll
y153446
Aug 4, 2010 11:02 am
Wow Carlo what a great idea... the notion of comparing metrics for low-cost sourcing vs. western high-cost (paired-programming?) code would be an interesting...
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Steve Ropa
steveropa
Aug 4, 2010 5:02 pm
I don't have much to add that others aren't saying, but it just feels like: Patient: "Dr. it hurts when I do this." Doctor: "Don't to that" Patient: "But it...
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kpughconsult
Aug 4, 2010 7:24 pm
I'm looking for stories of success with Acceptance Test Driven Development. I'll be adding them to my new book, which you can take a peek at:...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Aug 4, 2010 8:24 pm
There's a magazine article at industrial logic dot com - google for story-test driven development and Joshua Kerievsky. C. Keith Ray Amplify Your Agility ...
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xtremenilanjan
Aug 5, 2010 12:51 am
Does it make sense or not to create user stories for tasks to be performed on different operating systems. e.g., Install on Windows, Install on Linux -...
