(P.S. And I've found Gantt and Pert charts useful when I walk into an existing project and they have 'em: I look across to today's date, and then look down to...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Nov 16, 2010 6:33 am
... I don't agree with that assessment of Kanban. There isn't any reason you have to place limits only on individual stations. You can place limits on an...
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Nayan Hajratwala
nhajratw
Nov 16, 2010 8:52 am
The Michigan Agile Enthusiasts just had a meeting tonight. The next one will be in January. There is also the Ann Arbor Agile Groupies -...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 16, 2010 11:27 am
Hello, Adam. On Tuesday, November 16, 2010, at 1:33:21 AM, you ... I don't wish to quibble, though actually you can't, because there is no place to put the...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 16, 2010 11:29 am
Hello, Adam. On Tuesday, November 16, 2010, at 1:33:21 AM, you ... Planning for more than we can do is exactly what makes teams fail on the bad side rather...
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Dave Rooney
daverooneyca
Nov 16, 2010 1:20 pm
... Yes, it's clear. I wish I had a dollar for every team that rejected that clarity - it would pay for a nice meal. -- Dave Rooney Westboro Systems Web:...
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Dave Rooney
daverooneyca
Nov 16, 2010 1:23 pm
... Make that "every team I've coached" which rejected that clarity. -- Dave Rooney Westboro Systems Web: http://www.WestboroSystems.com Blog:...
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Carlo Bottiglieri
invernomutoai
Nov 16, 2010 1:51 pm
Hello All, a few weeks ago during a discussion on the Software Craftsmanship list I started a map of all the facilities available to developers on a journey, ...
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Steven Smith
stevenator2
Nov 16, 2010 2:24 pm
Hi spelltwister, If you can get a ticket via the waiting list, you might be interested in CodeMash which is a fantastic conference that's right in your area....
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Jussi Mononen
jussi_kiloif
Nov 16, 2010 2:39 pm
... To me limiting the amount of teams commitment is something very different from WIP. As Ron said it applies mostly to single nodes. ... Less commitment...
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Nicholas Robinson
fromconcept
Nov 16, 2010 3:34 pm
Very cool Carlo. Nick. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Carlo Bottiglieri < ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
Nov 16, 2010 3:54 pm
... Sometimes, a feature is useless (or worse) to users unless it is complete. For example, letting the user add a thingy to a whatever without the ability to...
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Jonathan Harley
agilista
Nov 16, 2010 3:56 pm
Or they're sandbagging... New teams with less trust tend to do this in my experience (and the quality is suspect too).. ... [Non-text portions of this message...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
Nov 16, 2010 4:04 pm
Such a burnup is not sufficient data to jump to any conclusions. It is just a signal to observe more closely. Maybe, also ask the team what is going on and...
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Carlo Bottiglieri
invernomutoai
Nov 16, 2010 4:33 pm
Thanks Nicholas, I saw your entry : don't forget to add a way to contact you if someone is passing by and wishes to pair. Carlo On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:33...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Nov 16, 2010 5:33 pm
... Fair enough....
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Nov 16, 2010 5:41 pm
... I didn't say "plan to /do/ more than we can do" I said "plan /for/ slightly more then they think they can do" by which I meant that we should have a story...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Nov 16, 2010 5:54 pm
... Yep. It sounds similar, but it is clearer, IMO. "Potentially Shippable" like a lot of Scrum terms is "potentially" too vague to be helpful. ... I would...
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Nicholas Robinson
fromconcept
Nov 16, 2010 5:55 pm
Good point :-) On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Carlo Bottiglieri < ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Jussi Mononen
jussi_kiloif
Nov 16, 2010 6:45 pm
... Fully agree. Still it should be the teams objective to have the code base in such a shape that it /could/ be released. Even though the feature wouldn't be...
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Jussi Mononen
jussi_kiloif
Nov 16, 2010 7:12 pm
... On the other hand even incomplete features deployed to customers can be very valuable. Customers see the progress and can give /feedback/. Holding back...
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Jussi Mononen
jussi_kiloif
Nov 16, 2010 7:13 pm
... To me commitment is the thing that separates a team from a group of people working together. "We stand here together and take responsibility of our ...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Nov 16, 2010 7:46 pm
... "Blame game" was a poor choice of words on my part. What I meant was excuses. There can be any number of excuses why we finished nine things instead of the...
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Jussi Mononen
jussi_kiloif
Nov 16, 2010 7:57 pm
... Excuses are hiding the real reason, you should try to find out the root cause. Otherwise you are treating the symptoms and not addressing the real issue. ...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Nov 16, 2010 8:10 pm
... Commitment ignores normal variation. If we plan for exactly what we will do on average then we should be able to do more or less than that roughly half of...
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Jussi Mononen
jussi_kiloif
Nov 16, 2010 9:09 pm
... Ok, we talking now conceptually on different levels. To me commitment is not something with a hard value. It falls on the social side of things. I am...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 16, 2010 11:45 pm
Hello, Jussi. On Tuesday, November 16, 2010, at 2:10:45 PM, you ... Yes. A commitment doesn't mean that we will do this if the sky falls. It does mean that...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 16, 2010 11:47 pm
Hello, Adam. On Tuesday, November 16, 2010, at 2:46:11 PM, you ... Yes. However I am not convinced that limiting work is addressing the root cause of this...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Nov 16, 2010 11:57 pm
... True. The implication of flow for me (which I have neglected to say explicitly up to this point) is that rather than attempt to maximize the number of...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 17, 2010 12:40 am
Hello, Adam. On Tuesday, November 16, 2010, at 12:41:18 PM, you ... This style is probably good, and may be better. I'm not sure yet. However, as discussed a...