Il 18/05/2012 04:59, gusridd ha scritto: This is not exactly an argument related to the group that is extreme programming but in this particular case I suggest...
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JeffGrigg
jeffgrigg63132
May 19, 2012 9:09 am
I guess we're going to conveniently ignore COBOL 2002. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL#COBOL_2002_and_object-oriented_COBOL ... And yes, "Java is the new...
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JeffGrigg
jeffgrigg63132
May 19, 2012 9:23 am
... [The main site appears to be down. Below is what seems to be what is intended by the "Digital Solidarity Manifesto."] Digital Solidarity Manifesto ...
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MarvinToll.com
y153446
May 19, 2012 10:32 am
I don't know about convenience... but ignoring Object-Oriented COBOL was deliberate on my part. There are at least a couple of perspectives: One. That OO COBOL...
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JeffGrigg
jeffgrigg63132
May 19, 2012 10:36 am
And how many programmers using a COBOL 85 compiler are writing code that is much different than just COBOL 64? My observation has been "not many." (based on,...
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M. Manca
micronpn
May 19, 2012 10:44 am
... I wrote I think not more then 3 programs with Cobol during my first employment to modify some legacy code related to printer and terminals. If it is on the...
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MarvinToll.com
y153446
May 19, 2012 4:41 pm
I remember anxiously anticipating some capability in COBOL 85 when working for EDS on the General Motors account... however, that is as memorable at the moment...
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M. Manca
micronpn
May 26, 2012 2:36 pm
Hi all, I find a guide to agile practices mps in the Agile Alliance web site at: http://guide.agilealliance.org/subway.html I am not convinced that all the map...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
May 26, 2012 4:48 pm
Hi, M, ... I'd agree that these things are not fundamentally about testing. They all nominally touch on testing, though. I don't think you can put these ...
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PAUL
beckfordp...
May 27, 2012 6:04 am
Hi All, With reference to my previous post: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/extremeprogramming/message/157729 I think what Laurent is doing here is a great...
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Laurent Bossavit
morendilfoo
May 30, 2012 11:42 pm
Hi there, ... Thanks for noticing :) ... The groupings into "lines" are somewhat arbitrary. One intent of the map was to acknowledge that since the early days...
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M. Manca
micronpn
May 31, 2012 6:48 am
Hi Laurent, I like the idea of the map in general. What I wrote was mainly related to BDD, TDD, ATDD and unit test practices because you put the in the path of...
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MarvinToll.com
y153446
May 31, 2012 11:51 am
Every time I look at this I can't help but think it is a subway map for a major city within the former Soviet Union. Just can't figure out which city?...
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James Grenning
jwgrenning
May 31, 2012 12:57 pm
Hi Laurent I suggest that frequent release and velocity be also on the red line. Definition of done should also be on the Testing line. Daily meeting and...
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James Grenning
jwgrenning
May 31, 2012 1:05 pm
I think a couple other stops are also needed. Coding standard on the original XP line, and SOLID on the design line. It's an interesting representation. I...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
May 31, 2012 1:17 pm
Thanks for this Laurent - and also to Harry Beck. :-) Charlie On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:04 PM, James Grenning...
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Amir Kolsky
kolsky
May 31, 2012 1:23 pm
My biggest beef against the map, is the testing line. A lot of the stuff there is not about testing at all, and *insert subway movie death cliché here* if you...
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Paul Epps
paulepps
Jun 21, 2012 5:32 pm
I saw a presentation by Scott Downey last night at Agile SoCal on hyperproductive Scrum teams. Downey defines a hyperproductive team as a team that achieves a...
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Chet Hendrickson
suechet
Jun 21, 2012 5:45 pm
Hello Paul, Please describe the process that this 'productivity measure' will be input to. What is its purpose? chet Thursday, June 21, 2012, 1:27:06 PM, you...
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Paul Epps
paulepps
Jun 21, 2012 6:27 pm
Hi Chet - ... Downey described the purpose with this user story: AS A Scrum Product Owner who is trying to evaluate the efficacy of the product directions I...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
Jun 21, 2012 6:28 pm
I suspect the relationship is backwards here: We should be finding that the bigger the stories a team works on, the slower the team would increase its ...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
Jun 21, 2012 6:33 pm
What else contributes to revenue changes? How can knowing how much the team delivered differentiate among all those contributions to revenue changes? Root...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Jun 21, 2012 6:38 pm
Paul, On 6/21/12 1:27 PM, Paul Epps wrote: [snip] ... Any ideas on how to measure team productivity? - George -- ... * George Dinwiddie *...
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RonJeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Jun 21, 2012 6:43 pm
Hi Paul, ... That strikes me as ... how can I put this nicely ... overly indirect. It's a red herring. I suspect the real purpose of wanting to know this is to...
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RonJeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Jun 21, 2012 6:45 pm
George ... ... Any ideas on WHY to measure team productivity? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Wisdom begins when we understand the difference between "that...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Jun 21, 2012 7:04 pm
Ron, ... Another good question. My initial point is that the rest of the sentence is superfluous. Even if we think we have a good reason (or are just curious),...
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RonJeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Jun 21, 2012 7:17 pm
Hi George, ... Yes, I do fully agree, of course. In addition, I've never seen a proposed measure that I could not immediately game to my advantage. Ron...
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Dave Rooney
daverooneyca
Jun 21, 2012 7:42 pm
Hi Paul, ... I saw Scott give a presentation with Jeff Sutherland at Agile 2010 about this. During the session, I called BS to all of the numbers he and Jeff...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
Jun 21, 2012 7:50 pm
... The scary thing about that metric is that I've seen too many places where they would consider more pizza orders to be a *good* thing :-) Adrian -- ...
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M. Manca
micronpn
Jun 21, 2012 7:54 pm
Il 21/06/2012 21:17, RonJeffries ha scritto: Hi Ron and George, the point is always the same, some questions seem done by a manager that needs to know when...
