Il 21/06/2012 21:17, RonJeffries ha scritto: Hi Ron and George, the point is always the same, some questions seem done by a manager that needs to know when...
... The scary thing about that metric is that I've seen too many places where they would consider more pizza orders to be a *good* thing :-) Adrian -- ...
Hi Paul, ... I saw Scott give a presentation with Jeff Sutherland at Agile 2010 about this. During the session, I called BS to all of the numbers he and Jeff...
Hi George, ... Yes, I do fully agree, of course. In addition, I've never seen a proposed measure that I could not immediately game to my advantage. Ron...
Ron, ... Another good question. My initial point is that the rest of the sentence is superfluous. Even if we think we have a good reason (or are just curious),...
George ... ... Any ideas on WHY to measure team productivity? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Wisdom begins when we understand the difference between "that...
Hi Paul, ... That strikes me as ... how can I put this nicely ... overly indirect. It's a red herring. I suspect the real purpose of wanting to know this is to...
What else contributes to revenue changes? How can knowing how much the team delivered differentiate among all those contributions to revenue changes? Root...
I suspect the relationship is backwards here: We should be finding that the bigger the stories a team works on, the slower the team would increase its ...
Hi Chet - ... Downey described the purpose with this user story: AS A Scrum Product Owner who is trying to evaluate the efficacy of the product directions I...
Hello Paul, Please describe the process that this 'productivity measure' will be input to. What is its purpose? chet Thursday, June 21, 2012, 1:27:06 PM, you...
I saw a presentation by Scott Downey last night at Agile SoCal on hyperproductive Scrum teams. Downey defines a hyperproductive team as a team that achieves a...
My biggest beef against the map, is the testing line. A lot of the stuff there is not about testing at all, and *insert subway movie death cliché here* if you...
I think a couple other stops are also needed. Coding standard on the original XP line, and SOLID on the design line. It's an interesting representation. I...
Hi Laurent I suggest that frequent release and velocity be also on the red line. Definition of done should also be on the Testing line. Daily meeting and...
Every time I look at this I can't help but think it is a subway map for a major city within the former Soviet Union. Just can't figure out which city?...
Hi Laurent, I like the idea of the map in general. What I wrote was mainly related to BDD, TDD, ATDD and unit test practices because you put the in the path of...
Hi there, ... Thanks for noticing :) ... The groupings into "lines" are somewhat arbitrary. One intent of the map was to acknowledge that since the early days...
Hi All, With reference to my previous post: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/extremeprogramming/message/157729 I think what Laurent is doing here is a great...
Hi, M, ... I'd agree that these things are not fundamentally about testing. They all nominally touch on testing, though. I don't think you can put these ...
Hi all, I find a guide to agile practices mps in the Agile Alliance web site at: http://guide.agilealliance.org/subway.html I am not convinced that all the map...
I remember anxiously anticipating some capability in COBOL 85 when working for EDS on the General Motors account... however, that is as memorable at the moment...
... I wrote I think not more then 3 programs with Cobol during my first employment to modify some legacy code related to printer and terminals. If it is on the...
And how many programmers using a COBOL 85 compiler are writing code that is much different than just COBOL 64? My observation has been "not many." (based on,...
I don't know about convenience... but ignoring Object-Oriented COBOL was deliberate on my part. There are at least a couple of perspectives: One. That OO COBOL...
... [The main site appears to be down. Below is what seems to be what is intended by the "Digital Solidarity Manifesto."] Digital Solidarity Manifesto ...
I guess we're going to conveniently ignore COBOL 2002. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL#COBOL_2002_and_object-oriented_COBOL ... And yes, "Java is the new...
Il 18/05/2012 04:59, gusridd ha scritto: This is not exactly an argument related to the group that is extreme programming but in this particular case I suggest...