As some of you know, we have been using XP to develop some apps. As part of this, we have obviously been developing unit tests as we go. Well, we're...
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Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
May 1, 2001 9:37 am
... Simplicity, Communication, Feedback, and Courage. Bravo! Ronald E Jeffries http://www.XProgramming.com http://www.objectmentor.com...
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Anders Bendtsen
anb@...
May 1, 2001 12:06 pm
I'm working on a project where we are considering using XP. Out project manager one day asked: 'How do you use uni test with our old code?' A good question....
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Joshua Macy/Towers Pe...
macyj@...
May 1, 2001 12:13 pm
I find Design Patterns most useful in communication about the code, rather than in writing the code itself; patterns provide a consistent common vocabulary for...
... There's been a lot of threads on this in the past, so first thing I'd recommend is search the archives and then search the Wiki. There's no easy answer....
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Jason Rogers
jason.rogers@...
May 1, 2001 1:17 pm
... Yes. Do you have a more specific question?...
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Gauti Thor Reynisson
gautithor.reynisson@...
May 1, 2001 2:56 pm
Joshua Macy: "...-on the other hand, it seems to me that attempting to become a better coder by setting out to learn patterns from Design Patterns and to use...
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Dan Palanza
dan@...
May 1, 2001 3:19 pm
... I take the above to mean that patterns are experientially learned; they are not learned vicariously. If that is consistent with Joshua's intent, then I ...
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Kenneth Tyler
kentyler@...
May 1, 2001 3:23 pm
... On some projects I have replaced "metaphor" with "one page drawing". That is, you make a one page drawing of the whole system (which forces it to be a ...
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Arrizza, John
john.arrizza@...
May 1, 2001 3:52 pm
... Yes, a fair amount; last year or so on a few small projects and one larger project. My experience has been one of a catch-22: unit tests are easier to...
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dbrady@...
May 1, 2001 4:38 pm
To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: extremeprogramming-unsubscribe@eGroups.com These instructions are clearly posted, and in a fairly obvious location ...
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Phlip
pplumlee@...
May 1, 2001 5:04 pm
... Test-free legacy code has a delicate investment in BigBangTesting. Here's the rules: - Don't Refactor it; treat it as a 3rd party library and just use it. ...
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Lee
lvbis@...
May 1, 2001 5:30 pm
... === How then can you explain the modules passing the units tests if they had a serious flaw? Secondly, would this flaw have been missed if you doing 100%...
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ian.rae@...
May 1, 2001 5:41 pm
... Except that there are two reasons why stories don't get into the current iteration: they are lower priority OR there's not time to do them in the iteration...
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Ivan Tomek
ivan.tomek@...
May 1, 2001 6:15 pm
I think that this discussion shows that the first problem of the concept that everybody seems to understand it in a different way. Somebody gives 'assembly ...
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william.wake@...
May 1, 2001 7:49 pm
I like some of the lower-level metaphors as well, but let me add a testimonial for assembly line (in addition to C3's paycheck one): On a customer service...
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william.wake@...
May 1, 2001 8:15 pm
I try to get three aspects (all stolen from others in this group, of course): * "Know your objects intimately" (You can see why "System Metaphor" is the phrase...
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davechaplin@...
May 1, 2001 8:19 pm
... project ... A ... Yes. I had to take over some seriously poor code written by a total hacker. [A select case statement that was about 20 screens long - I ...
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RobertoQuiñonez
robertoqzs@...
May 1, 2001 9:16 pm
It's a great adventure to start. You needed to begin with gathering old documentacion about this project, inclusively would you need into its control...
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Glen B. Alleman
galleman@...
May 1, 2001 9:48 pm
The current issue of IEEE Computer has a continuation of Barry Boehm's and Victor Basili's article on the TOP 10 Issues. The current article is on the Top 10...
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Peter van Rooijen
peter@...
May 1, 2001 9:53 pm
... From: <davechaplin@...> ... That sounds like good advice. As I read this, it occurred to me that if you want to enhance an already working program...
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Dinwiddie, George
George.Dinwiddie@...
May 1, 2001 9:53 pm
Bullet-proof is a business requirement. Write a user story for each type of exploit that you must withstand. Write acceptance tests that demonstrate these...
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rmartin@...
May 1, 2001 10:43 pm
There has recently been a conjecture placed on the extreme programming mail group that Design Patterns are harmful. The complaint is that designers try to...
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Andrew Hunt
andy@...
May 1, 2001 10:55 pm
... That's a good and useful tool, but it's not the same as a Methapor, nor is it as powerful. The metaphor can be almost fractal, as it can answer low-level...
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Glenn Vanderburg
glv@...
May 1, 2001 11:56 pm
... I agree that there are problems with the Metaphor concept as it stands ... or at least as it's currently articulated in the XP literature. But I think it's...
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Louis Marascio
lmarascio@...
May 1, 2001 11:58 pm
Perhaps this leads to a new way of looking at metaphor entirely. Rather than specifying that part of the XP process is to define a system metaphor in the...
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Holden Glova
h.glova@...
May 2, 2001 12:34 am
... Excellent writings Joshua! I have saved this for sure, thank you. -- Holden Glova, h.glova@... Software Engineer Alchemy Group Limited Level 6...
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Keith Nicholas
keithn@...
May 2, 2001 12:40 am
XP is the bruce lee in a combat arena filled with sumo wrestlers XP is Jackie Chan (agile, quick, light)...
