... I would say you *could* do software development without version control (but you *should not*). Martin...
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Ivan Tomek
ivan.tomek@...
Sep 2, 2001 3:56 pm
Ron's offer is most welcome and useful and I am looking forward to its outcome. However, I consider negative voices in this group to be valuable as well. They...
33427
Mike Bowler
mbowler@...
Sep 2, 2001 3:24 pm
... Yes, they have two sets of libraries. Code that actually makes it into production will get backed up at the point that it is promoted so there is a...
33426
Phlip
pplumlee@...
Sep 2, 2001 2:43 pm
... Arguing with them in private would be more productive than their endless nit-picky threads on the various programming fora... (But as they've never tried...
33425
Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Sep 2, 2001 11:58 am
I'm cross-posting this to extremeprogramming and agilemodeling. In my previous posting on agilemodeling, I mentioned that I believe that the XP use of On-site...
33424
Piers Cawley
pdcawley@...
Sep 2, 2001 6:41 am
... But it mustn't add generated files. Hmm... actually, since I do this stuff with perl, then the standard perl Makemaker target 'make manifest' almost does...
33423
Bryan Dollery
Bryan.Dollery@...
Sep 2, 2001 3:05 am
John Carter explained ... but its too long to repeat her. That was excellent, did you make it all up? Bryan ;->...
33422
Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Sep 1, 2001 11:15 pm
... C3 started (in XP mode) in 1996, launched in 1997, and was closed down at the beginning of 2001. It may still be paying something like 5 people, but it's...
33421
Mike Clark
mike@...
Sep 1, 2001 8:00 pm
... Pardon my ignorance of C3, but is it in production? I had heard somewhere that it was funded as a research project. Mike...
33420
C. Keith Ray
ckeithray@...
Sep 1, 2001 7:57 pm
... quick lesson on "slicing" -- the bane of C++ stack-based objects: class A { public: virtual void foo(); int myAa; }; class B { public: virtual void foo();...
33419
Bill Wake
william.wake@...
Sep 1, 2001 7:45 pm
... Only in the sense of physically existing in my notebook. I'll announce it as an XPlorations article when I get it finished & online. -- Bill Wake...
33418
C. Keith Ray
ckeithray@...
Sep 1, 2001 7:09 pm
... One is describe in a paper somewhere... I can't find it in the book "Extreme Programming Examined". Searching the XPUniverse papers... Note that instead of...
33417
Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Sep 1, 2001 5:58 pm
... It's on topica.com. Search for agile modeling, two words. It's kind of hard to find ... Ronald E Jeffries www.XProgramming.com You do ill if you praise,...
33416
Ivan Tomek
ivan.tomek@...
Sep 1, 2001 5:39 pm
Thanks, I got it now. Still, I am curious, is it possible to join the agile modeling forum? If so, how? Ivan ... From: Ron Jeffries...
33415
Buddha Buck
bmbuck@...
Sep 1, 2001 5:26 pm
... We have a mixture of fully-automated and partially-automated acceptance tests for the project I'm working on. We only fully acceptance-test release...
33414
Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Sep 1, 2001 5:13 pm
... The agile modeling forum. But the document will be up on my web site shortly. A draft is there now, at ... ...
33413
Chip Whitmer
cwhitmer@...
Sep 1, 2001 4:52 pm
... You just need a utility that wraps CVS, and does all those adds for you... - Chip Whitmer Highland, Utah cwhitmer@......
33412
Ivan Tomek
ivan.tomek@...
Sep 1, 2001 4:47 pm
Which forum is that? Ivan ... From: Ron Jeffries [mailto:ronjeffries@...] Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 1:12 PM To: extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com...
33411
Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Sep 1, 2001 4:13 pm
... Wasn't that actually on agilemodeling, not here? ... Yes. That's where the core of an XP project is, and where the key communications take place. ... Yes....
33410
Robert Sartin
sartin@...
Sep 1, 2001 4:01 pm
... I think the OP is referring to the fact that the type of a stack object is fixed at the declaration of the object. You can't use a factory to produce a...
33409
Ivan Tomek
ivan.tomek@...
Sep 1, 2001 3:58 pm
Bill, Is your 'longer article' available? Ivan ... From: Bill Wake [mailto:william.wake@...] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:48 PM To:...
33408
Bob Koss
koss@...
Sep 1, 2001 3:24 pm
... Polymorphism doesn't require heap based objects. Stack works fine. What it does require is access through a pointer or reference variable. Two different...
33407
Doug Swartz
daswartz@...
Sep 1, 2001 2:54 pm
... Our Acceptance tests are automated. Each test runs somehere in the range from a few minutes to 30 minutes or so. Each test checks a number of...
33406
Phlip
pplumlee@...
Sep 1, 2001 2:48 pm
... He means polymorphic construction. The following two statements bind the type at compile time: Thing a; Thing *b (new Thing); This is the only way to get...
33405
kevinxp@...
Sep 1, 2001 2:25 pm
... This might be better offline, but I don't understand what you mean by "no polymorphism for stack-based objects". An object is an object, whether it was...
33404
Doug Swartz
daswartz@...
Sep 1, 2001 2:17 pm
... Hmmmmm, It's been a while since I did COBOL on the mainframe. What do you mean by "they have no version control"? Do they at least have two sets of...
33403
Laurent Bossavit
morendil@...
Sep 1, 2001 1:52 pm
... The ones for the Web content management system (project before current) took at most 10 minutes. A more recent project elsewhere ran all tests (unit and...
33402
Glen B. Alleman
galleman@...
Sep 1, 2001 1:39 pm
Responding to Ron's post... Nice post...but just a few more questions: Documentation in this explanation seems to consist mostly of code in the form of UT's,...
33401
Piers Cawley
pdcawley@...
Sep 1, 2001 8:19 am
... Good point. But note that, with CVS, if you use a seperate machine, with a seperate filesystem, you catch problems where someone forgot to do 'cvs add'... ...
