... I hope I'm not OT, I just have the above paragraph as a start... First things first : only introduce those is you *have* to (that is, not because it is...
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Phlip
phlip@...
Apr 1, 2000 2:39 pm
From: Christian Gantar ... Spike it. Phlip ======= http://users.deltanet.com/~tegan/home.html =======...
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Steve Freeman
steve@...
Apr 1, 2000 9:55 pm
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 11:40:14 -0600 During a recent discussion at the OT conference in England, some of us were wondering about how to associate stories with...
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Andy Glew
glew@...
Apr 2, 2000 12:45 am
... Fortunately, the completely computer based, non-physical, version of this already exists: an issues database on computer, with links to tests, test...
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Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Apr 2, 2000 10:27 am
... The Simplest Thing might be to execute them all. Of course, for efficiency reasons, sometimes you don't want to execute them all. In that case, the thing...
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Chris Bitmead
chrisb@...
Apr 3, 2000 1:42 am
What do people think? If a project has been pretty soundly bodged, but somehow has been able to be patched together with duct-tape and chicken wire, is there...
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Phlip
phlip@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:06 am
From: Chris Bitmead ... Is the project presently deployed and giving a customer value? The old-fashion answer: If code that sucks is in the field making money,...
3940
nick.thurn@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:32 am
... I can only answer as an XP Skeptic, but... on Robert Martin's site there's a very frank and honest example of a re-write. I suspect that "toss" is a better...
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Eric Hodges
eric.hodges@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:42 am
Not an XP answer, but one from my personal history: Everything I ever wrote twice came out near perfect the second time. Rewriting is a serious luxury, and...
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Keith Nicholas
keithn@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:51 am
Hi all, what do people do to unit test multithreaded software in C++? How do you test critical sections etc? how would I prove that I got my critical section...
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Arrizza, John
john_arrizza@...
Apr 3, 2000 1:00 pm
... Interesting you should ask, as that is where we are now. We are trying XP in a new part of the project (a rewrite of some small functionality) and at the ...
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Mats Henricson
mats@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:00 pm
Excellent suggestion! We're using something similar in our more recently written code. I had lots to learn about SQL when this code was written. Well, I still...
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Tony White
Tony_White@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:00 pm
I will be out of the office from 03/24/2000 until 04/03/2000. I will respond to you message when I return. If you need an immediate response please redirect...
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Chris Bitmead
chrisb@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:00 pm
How does it "feel" to do pair programming? I mean through the day when I feel I need to "back-off" and take a break, I might say, go and read my email or...
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Phlip
phlip@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:00 pm
From: Chris Bitmead ... There are those who "practice" XP. Just as there are those who "practice" C++ or podiatry or transmission maintenance. There are those...
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Eric Hodges
eric.hodges@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:00 pm
... From: "Mats Henricson" <mats@...> To: <extremeprogramming@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 7:01 PM Subject: [XP] Re: 100 line...
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Malte Kroeger
kroeger@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:00 pm
Hi there! I use CppUnit and looked at JUnit. A UnitTest throws an exception if an assertion fails. So when the first assertion fails, the whole UnitTest is...
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Ole Andersen
palnatoke@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:00 pm
... All groups at egroups have moderators/managers/owners. If you receive a 'Posting sent to the moderator for approval' message, it is usually because you...
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Thierry Cros
tcros@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:00 pm
bonjour jean-marc jmerci pour ton mail sympa je te propose d'utiliser mon mail directement, cette ml est plutot surchargée... Thierry Cros tcros@......
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Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:00 pm
... That would be the standard thing to do in a product organization. ... How does that work compared to finding out in minutes what they like? Ron Jeffries ...
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Daniel T.
danielt3@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:00 pm
A recent post on comp.object got me thinking about this subject so I started doing some re-reading over the weekend. I would like to start up a discussion...
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Phlip
phlip@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:02 pm
From: Arrizza, John ... Making the code assertion-rich, including assertions not required by the tenants of Design by Contract, helps. Just think of it like...
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Martijn Meijering
mmeijeri@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:04 pm
... If only one person wants to have a break, he can let the other person type. When pair programming I regularly find that one of us runs out of steam. When...
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David Brady
dbrady@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:13 pm
I'm an XP newbie, so can't state the official XP position. However, I suspect the official XP position would be, "Well, that depends...." :-) I can imagine...
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Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:18 pm
... I don't remember ever seeing someone object strongly if their partner said "let's take a break". Sometimes they'll say "let's just finish this", and the...
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David Brady
dbrady@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:19 pm
... We have a programmer here who is famous for near OCD-like fixation on debugging a problem. It's gotten to the point that the rest of us have a saying,...
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Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:23 pm
... Your unit tests are probably fine. Since you can only fix one defect at a time, one failure is probably enough. When you find that the one that fails isn't...
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David Brady
dbrady@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:32 pm
Has anyone here had success with writing a test, and had someone come along later and actually break the thing and get caught by the test? All the tests I can...
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Tammo Freese
tammo.freese@...
Apr 3, 2000 2:36 pm
... No! The cause of the failure is the FIRST assertion. Fix it, then go on. (If you have more than one assertion in a test method, the test will be aborted ...
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Andy Glew
glew@...
Apr 3, 2000 3:00 pm
Has anyone got a Perl unit test framework, like JUnit or CPPunit? If not, the translation should be easy....
