... I did't say we are successful with them. We are doing our best to improve ourselvs. We are learning. But I think that things are better now. Yes, we have...
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Andrei GHEORGHE
andrei_gh
Nov 1, 2002 8:12 am
Well, thank you all. I don't know if you understood my point that the factor should be at least 2, but I don't care, because you are saying that things should...
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Jim Little
jimlittle82
Nov 1, 2002 8:12 am
NUnitAsp v1.2 is now available for download. The focus of this release was improved documentation. We now have a wide array of documentation, including an...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2002 9:25 am
... What does the Central Limit Theory say about the stability of 100+ estimates that are an average of 35% off? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Talent...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2002 9:30 am
... Start helping. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Bang, bang, Jeffries' silver hammer came down upon their heads ......
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2002 9:34 am
... I think the factor you would see, if you measured it, would be somewhere in the range of 2 to 3. But thinking in terms of that factor is fraught, as people...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2002 9:35 am
... Theorem, not Theory. Sorry. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Analysis kills spontaneity. The grain once ground into flour germinates no more. -- Henri...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2002 12:01 pm
Adventures in C#: How Do We Do a Test That We Can't Do? Ron Jeffries 10/31/2002 We encountered a real bug in the system that wasn't caught by our tests. The...
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Andrey Khavryuchenko
akhavr
Nov 1, 2002 12:01 pm
Bill, "BW" == Bill Walton wrote: BW> Roles, Ron. Roles. You're the leader. But you don't seem to have an BW> answer other than "just do it." Surely you...
Bill, ... [snip] ... [>] The concept of "speaking the language of those listening" is key here. When we dropped completely the buzz words of XP and started...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2002 2:46 pm
Around Friday, November 1, 2002, 7:01:05 AM, Ron Jeffries wrote: Wait! Wait, wait, wait! ... It's cool writing a book where if you screw up it's just part of...
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Fuqua, Andrew (ISSAtl...
afuqua_egroups
Nov 1, 2002 3:39 pm
I'll be there all week. andrew fuqua -- Atlanta XP User Group Coach ... From: Ron Crocker [mailto:crocker@...] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:33 PM ...
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Daniel Berlinger
linkwright
Nov 1, 2002 4:10 pm
... Ron, Would it be wrong to write some notes that explain your thinking "of the moment" (you're on a role, you know just how to do it). Or is that almost as...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2002 4:21 pm
... I guess you're asking if as a developer I might write something down to be sure that I remember how to do it? I might well do that. On the other hand, I...
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Steve Ropa
steveropa
Nov 1, 2002 4:33 pm
... Why would XP estimates get compared to anything? I am late to the discussion, but I don't see why one programmers estimate would be "up against" anyone...
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Dale Emery
dalehemery
Nov 1, 2002 5:05 pm
Hi Steve, ... Because some people will select a development approach based, in part, on the quality of the estimates it produces. Dale...
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Bill Walton
bill_walton7...
Nov 1, 2002 5:30 pm
Hi Steve, ... discussion, but I don't see why one programmers estimate would be "up against" anyone else's? If you are going to be bidding a project solely on...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2002 5:32 pm
... How will they make that comparison? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Knowledge must come through action; you can have no test which is not fanciful, save...
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Steve Ropa
steveropa
Nov 1, 2002 6:03 pm
Just for my edification, and because I like to write edification, are we talking about potential customers choosing a development shop, or are we talking about...
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banshee858
Nov 1, 2002 6:09 pm
... against ... you ... OK. I think I am beginning to understand where Bill might be coming from (please correct me if I am wrong). Bill is concerned what do...
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Bill Walton
bill_walton7...
Nov 1, 2002 6:17 pm
Hi banshee, ... Actually, I think the example you've given is one that XP can quite easily handle, assuming some history is in place. I was more concerned, in...
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Kevin Lawrence
kevinwilliam...
Nov 1, 2002 6:21 pm
(hypothetically) I work for a large Wall Street bank. I am the project manager of a software team in the Global Derivatives Credit Management department. My...
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Dale Emery
dalehemery
Nov 1, 2002 6:34 pm
Hi Ron, ... By comparing the relationship between estimates and actuals for previous projects. Dale...
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Bill Walton
bill_walton7...
Nov 1, 2002 6:35 pm
Hi Kevin, Great story. Feels real. I've posted what I think is the question I have on the XC list, having promised not to waste more of this list's time with...
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Dale Emery
dalehemery
Nov 1, 2002 6:37 pm
Hi Steve, ... I was thinking about the latter. My comment may also apply to the former. Dale...
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Steve Ropa
steveropa
Nov 1, 2002 6:43 pm
so in order to compare, they need to "just do it" at least once...
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Andrey Khavryuchenko
akhavr
Nov 1, 2002 6:44 pm
Bill, "BW" == Bill Walton wrote: BW> I was more concerned, in this discussion, about how does one explain BW> the XP estimating practices in such a way that a...
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Kyle Cordes
kylejcordes
Nov 1, 2002 6:45 pm
From: "Alleman, Glen B." <glen.alleman@...> ... every ... tasks, ... app, ... I have experienced environments which the management would describe very ...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2002 6:45 pm
... How will they get estimates and actuals for projects using processes they have never tried? How will they get estimates and actuals for other people's...
