... or hundreds of orders ... call/email five or six ... No, but you could ask new customers for it and ask old customers if they wish to provide it when they...
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John Brewer
jbrewer@...
Jul 1, 2000 10:01 am
... Or with ... argue that ... Scalability, ... of ... costs ... The history of UNIX is a history of evolutionary design. See Dennis Ritchie's recollections...
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Ilja Preuß
ilja.preuss@...
Jul 1, 2000 11:47 am
Here is how I think, framework development should work with XP: First you have to find out what services the framework should offer. What would potentiell...
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Ilja Preuß
ilja.preuss@...
Jul 1, 2000 11:48 am
... Not necessarily: if it has to work on many different OS's, it could be much simpler to write your own GUI services. I would guess this is the one and only...
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Dave Thomas
Dave@...
Jul 1, 2000 12:55 pm
... Actually, Multics is alive and well and living inside a range of fault-tolerant computers from Stratus. It was renamed VOS, but at its core, the OS is...
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Kay Johansen
kay@...
Jul 1, 2000 1:41 pm
... An enterprise information system has three kinds of users (at least). Accounting, Data Entry, and Business. Their different wants sometimes result in...
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Ilja Preuß
ilja.preuss@...
Jul 1, 2000 1:58 pm
... Even more accurate: IfYouHaveItAndIt'sNotBackedUpAndItWouldBeExpensiveToGetItAgainLaterDon'tThro wItAway ;-) Regards, Ilja...
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Phlip
phlip@...
Jul 1, 2000 3:34 pm
Someone who's done it will have to answer the Multiple Customer questions. Having little experience myself, this sounds like what big methodologies call...
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Mark Wilden
mark@...
Jul 1, 2000 4:53 pm
... From: "Jean-Henri Duteau" <jeand@...> ... and it bites them on the bum, that's not really our fault, is it? If the customer doesn't think it's...
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Mark Wilden
mark@...
Jul 1, 2000 4:57 pm
... From: "Phlip" <phlip@...> ... Hmmm...I don't know about that at all. I think the analysts can help the customer translate wants into needs (by...
7737
Mark Wilden
mark@...
Jul 1, 2000 4:59 pm
... From: "Alan Francis" <alanf@...> ... Possible. But it still makes you look a little stupid. :) ... Perhaps not, maybe because some folks are...
7738
Steve Freeman
steve@...
Jul 1, 2000 6:39 pm
From: Dave Thomas <Dave@...> ... So that's where it went! In its day, a great environment to develop in. It's a shame that Dave Cutler reimplemented...
7739
Steve Freeman
steve@...
Jul 1, 2000 6:39 pm
... The party line is that the customers must speak with one voice (which may be implemented by having a product manager to juggle conflicting priorities)....
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Bram Cohen
BRAM@...
Jul 1, 2000 6:42 pm
... How about: KeepBackups All old code is held in version control, a similar thing should be done with data. -Bram Cohen...
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Ron McCabe
rmccabe@...
Jul 1, 2000 7:57 pm
please get me off this list!...
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Jim Little
jiml@...
Jul 1, 2000 9:17 pm
From: Mark Wilden <mark@...> ... be ... Perhaps a new example is in order. The users come up with a story: "Create a report that shows how the...
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John Brewer
jbrewer@...
Jul 1, 2000 10:32 pm
... its ... For a complete history of Multics, see: http://www.multicians.org/ It looks like Multics was the Taligent of the 60s. A big joint venture (MIT,...
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Mark Wilden
mark@...
Jul 1, 2000 11:12 pm
... From: "Jim Little" <jiml@...> ... This is much better than my original fax number example (and is similar to my shipping address example). ... ...
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Jim Mead
jmead1@...
Jul 1, 2000 11:32 pm
... From: "Ron McCabe" <rmccabe@...> To: <extremeprogramming@egroups.com> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [XP] Schema refactoring ...
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Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Jul 1, 2000 11:54 pm
I'm baa..ck. Loved seeing those of you who attended XP 2000! R Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com...
Hello, Our project team is new to XP. We try XP on a client/server Application written in VC++ and VB. Now we introduce UnitTests in our project, to improve...
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tbragg@...
Jul 2, 2000 5:42 pm
I'm reading XP Explained and am intrigued with the XP concept (software developer for the past 30 years or so, now leading a team doing an e-commerce web site...
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Jean-Henri Duteau
jeand@...
Jul 2, 2000 6:32 pm
... So what???? Unless you're paying for the project out of your own pocket, then again I re-iterate: If the customer doesn't want it, then it doesn't go in....
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Jean-Henri Duteau
jeand@...
Jul 2, 2000 6:36 pm
... And who's paying for this? The customer has already told you "I Don't Want It!". He's not willing to pay for the user stories / programming time that it...
I will be on vacation from the week of July 4th. Please direct any questions/issues to: Area Person Phone ID PC Rick Rose...
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Phlip
phlip@...
Jul 2, 2000 8:04 pm
From: <tbragg@...> ... WaterFall rears its ugly head in many ways. Look at what you wrote: Define the UI, get it accepted, write all the code behind it,...
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Miroslav Novak
mnovak@...
Jul 2, 2000 9:06 pm
Check out http://users.vnet.net/wwake/xp/xp0001/index.shtml This article by William Wake on testing GUI's received hearty praise when first revealed to the XP...