... Yes. I was thinking "research"; would mean articles, studies, etc. FIT is good. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Prediction is very difficult, especially...
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Ken Boucher
bonsai1966
Nov 1, 2003 3:32 pm
... Actually, as programmers, we usually recognize which tests and objects we're not happy with and, in the Winter of our Discontent, we write "refactoring...
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Ken Boucher
bonsai1966
Nov 1, 2003 3:24 pm
... That's almost my point of view. Let's see if I can make myself understood. A few years ago Kent wrote a wonderful book about a methodology he called XP. At...
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Ken Boucher
bonsai1966
Nov 1, 2003 3:24 pm
... No. It adds much value to a project. And yet it's often tossed and tossed hard. I suspect it's an "advanced"; practice, requiring more disipline than a team...
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Phlip
phlipcpp
Nov 1, 2003 3:18 pm
... http://fitnesse.org At least I thought that's what FIT's for... -- Phlip...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2003 3:15 pm
... Pointers to writings or sayings, please? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Here is Edward Bear, coming downstairs now, bump, bump, bump, on the back of his...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2003 3:13 pm
... How about 2. A explains how he actually tried that stock answer and what happened. I'm really interested in what happens when people try XP and get into ...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2003 3:06 pm
... I don't think it's dogmatic either. But I think one's listeners think it's dogmatic. They don't know what you know or where you are. You don't know what...
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Phlip
phlipcpp
Nov 1, 2003 2:57 pm
... High feedback creates a compass needle that points at your worse problem. If that worse problem is outside the programming lab, you are screwed. There is ...
82645
Bill de hÓra
bdehora
Nov 1, 2003 2:46 pm
... Which doesn't change what I said: a branch is a copy you wrote on. ... I know this, but it's an implementation detail of Subversion that it does or does...
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Bill de hÓra
bdehora
Nov 1, 2003 2:46 pm
... Which doesn't change what I said: a branch is a copy you wrote on. ... I know this, but it's an implementation detail of Subversion that it does or does...
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Dave Rooney
daverooneyca
Nov 1, 2003 2:34 pm
... Amen. I came to XP through an epiphany after working for 2.5 years on a Death March project (though it actually shipped something to production... late,...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2003 2:31 pm
... But the product was already production quality? Did QA find serious problems when they got to you? Was there anyone at the ass end of QA waiting to receive...
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J. B. Rainsberger
nails762
Nov 1, 2003 2:25 pm
... I don't know that I see that as dogmatic, unless I'm just not able to separate the book definition of the term from the emotionally-charged one I have in...
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J. B. Rainsberger
nails762
Nov 1, 2003 2:22 pm
[JBR] ... I'm game. All opposed? -- J. B. Rainsberger, Diaspar Software Services http://www.diasparsoftware.com :: +1 416 791-8603 Let's write software that...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Nov 1, 2003 2:08 pm
... The problem is partly a lack of slack. QA was scheduled for other projects and not available for our project because they were scheduled for other...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Nov 1, 2003 2:05 pm
... and ... Both of which seem to be stifling discussion of: ... We should talk about these things even if they are "outside of XP" and "nothing is broken"...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2003 1:58 pm
... Certainly. The important stuff happens at the corporate level. I'm just saying that's not Lean Manufacturing, and that what companies do with XP isn't (in...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2003 1:43 pm
... Was there no one in the company who really wanted the product? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com No one expects the Spanish Inquisition ......
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Nov 1, 2003 1:27 pm
... Check out a Lean Conference agenda: <http://www.lean2003.com/overview.shtml> While most of the focus is lean manufacturing, some of the sessions are about...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Nov 1, 2003 1:23 pm
... Not mine. We had an installer ready to use every two weeks, but only the Customer and programmers installed it. We couldn't get QA testers involved until...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Nov 1, 2003 1:16 pm
... One thing to keep in mind is that "expresses the programmer's intentions clearly" includes all those 'good design' things we know about cohesion, coupling,...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2003 1:12 pm
... Feedback is the answer. SAMOLO is one practice; retrospectives are another. The standup meeting is another: 1. Here's what I did yesterday; 2. Here's what...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Nov 1, 2003 1:09 pm
I was going to mention that. I'm too old and have read too many books about codependency to want to fix other other people's bugs for them, (I'd rather...
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Ron Jeffries
RonaldEJeffries
Nov 1, 2003 1:01 pm
... Thanks for a good shot at moving this along: you raise some good topics. However, I want to begin with some observations: 1. Exercise isn't "broken"...
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Steve Howell
showell30
Nov 1, 2003 12:51 pm
... Yes, I think we can trust the principles and values to carry us in the right direction, but is it possible to carry this analogy a little further and see...
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yahoogroups@...
jhrothjr
Nov 1, 2003 11:58 am
... From: "Jim Shore" <jshore.at.titanium-it.com@...> To: "extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com" ...
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David Corbin
david_corbin
Nov 1, 2003 11:44 am
... What I think he's trying to say, is when done impropertly, XP has greater risk than other processes done partially. As analogy, flying may be a great way ...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
Nov 1, 2003 9:52 am
Because they love the rush of being a hero. ... From: Phlip [mailto:plumlee@...] Sent: Fri 10/31/2003 9:08 PM To:...
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Jim Shore
jimlittle82
Nov 1, 2003 8:09 am
From: Steve Howell [mailto:showell@...] ... Our foo is strong. Jim...
